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Scientists Trap Light In Nano-Soup

An anonymous reader writes "Physicists at the Bhavnagar University in Gujarat, India have trapped light in a nano-soup concoction. The chance discovery could pave the way for lab-on-a-chip devices for processing optical information. As of now there is no theoretical explanation for why the fluid has the effects it does on laser light."

110 comments

  1. Obvious reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's a dark sucker, and therefore abhors light.

  2. the message by mseidl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Peter: "Hey Brian, there is a message in my Nano-Soup, it says 'oooooooooooooooo'"

    Brian: "Thats not Nano-Soup, its your Cheerios."

    1. Re:the message by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 2, Funny

      My nano-soup says "101110101101011100001101011011010110110111100010111100010110101"

    2. Re:the message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "My nano-soup says "101110101101011100001101011011010110110111100010111100010110101""

      Stop flapping your dick around in your soup.

    3. Re:the message by Jumphard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      RTFA, you wouldn't be able to *see* the Soup, all the light has stopped!

    4. Re:the message by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 1

      it's like a bad ventriliquist act.

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    5. Re:the message by hooeezit · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up!!! I haven't laughed so hard in ages! I wish I had this kind of wit.

    6. Re:the message by SilentBob0727 · · Score: 1

      Replacing one word in a well-known quote from a TV Show is wit?

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    7. Re:the message by doombringerltx · · Score: 1

      Think ya might have the wrong link there, cap'n

    8. Re:the message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      01000101 01101000 00111111

    9. Re:the message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      About time: I can finally have my lightsabre!

    10. Re:the message by SilentBob0727 · · Score: 1

      Ah crap. I got the episode right, but I should have linked to the quotes section.

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  3. Waiter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Waiter, what is this light doing in my nano-soup?

    It looks like the backstroke, sir.

    Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.

  4. YUMMY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahhh, I love the smell of nano-soup in the morning...

  5. Campbells releases new flavor by distr0 · · Score: 1, Funny

    cream-of-laser soup?

    1. Re:Campbells releases new flavor by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      Finally - a way to eat lasershark soup without scarring your retinas!! \o/

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    2. Re:Campbells releases new flavor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cream-of-laser soup? I believe that would be "frickin' shark fin soup"...
  6. Soup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soup?

    Fuck, now I'm hungry. Thanks a lot, Slashdot.

  7. Great new book by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 1

    Nano chicken soup for the soul...

    1. Re:Great new book by db32 · · Score: 1

      Chicken Nano-Soup for the Soul I think would have probably been better. Lines up a bit more with the normal title and the story. You fail at funny.

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  8. Excuse me by HangingChad · · Score: 0

    Excuse me, waiter. There's a light beam in my nano soup!

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  9. The photons took too long to order. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nano-soup for you!

  10. My... by larpon · · Score: 3, Funny

    potato soup does the same... nothing to see here move along

  11. "You want Nano-Bread? Three dollars extra!" by pryoplasm · · Score: 1

    "No soup for you!"

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  12. Great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So all this "Kira" nonsense is over with now, right?

  13. FRIST SOPU! by corifornia2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    FRIST SOPU WITH LIGH TIN I!

    1. Re:FRIST SOPU! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moar liek frist massive failure, amirite

  14. Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil? by Jumphard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Apologize for the rotten LOTR reference, but apart from applications to electronic this could make a really could mass light storage device. "Take this crystal with you into the (forest, cave, night, basement) and flip the switch and it will turn from darkness to light!" Sounds hocus-pocus, but cool nonetheless! Then you just charge it by leaving it in light (artificial or sunlight) and you've got another use out of it.

  15. The Soup Nazi Says: by DougF · · Score: 0
    You want Soup with light or no light?

    You Anonymous Coward? For you, no Soup! no light! no light in soup! Now go away.

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    1. Re:The Soup Nazi Says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...no Soup! no light!


      FINAL DESTINATION

      (This one may be modded down due to ingnorance)
  16. No theoretical explanation? by GammaKitsune · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do they claim that "As of now there is no theoretical explanation for why the fluid has the effects it does on laser light" when there's clearly a theory about why this happens right in TFA? Or is there some other definition used in the Scientific community for a "theoretical explanation" that I'm not aware of?

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    1. Re:No theoretical explanation? by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do they claim that "As of now there is no theoretical explanation for why the fluid has the effects it does on laser light" when there's clearly a theory about why this happens right in TFA? Or is there some other definition used in the Scientific community for a "theoretical explanation" that I'm not aware of? Yes: One where the math has been shown to work.

      Currently they have ideas, but haven't proven the math. If the math can't be made to work, either the underlying theory is wrong, or something else is happening.
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    2. Re:No theoretical explanation? by mr_mischief · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From TFA: "but the researchers believe that"

      It's good to remember that "theory" and "hypothesis" are quite distinct in scientific circles. In science, a belief is not a theory. A belief is either a hypothesis that can be tested or an article of faith. Since these are research scientists and this has no clear ties to any religion I can see, I'm going to bet they'll want their hypothesis tested.

      They'll want the experiment set up specifically with storage of the light in mind, since this was a surprise discovery this time. Then they'll want some way to prove, mathematically or empirically (preferably both) that the light is getting trapped consistently and how that's being done.

      Then, they'll want others to repeat the experiment in other labs from their write-up and get consistent results.

      Then, when scientists can use the explanation for the light getting trapped as a portion of further work and it become useful to just assume the explanation is true and move on to work based on it... then it's a theory.

      Or... that's how I'd think of the words "hypothesis" and "theory" from my interested lay understanding of research science. In short, a hypothesis is an idea about something happening under certain circumstances or why something happens in those circumstances that has not been properly vetted by experiments and mathematics. A hypothesis can be right or wrong, and noone knows until it is tested. A theory is a hypothesis that has been proven reasonably correct by multiple individual teams and can be used as a basis for further work. A theory is sometimes wrong in part, like Newtonian mechanics, but should offer a good enough model to make more discoveries.

      In even shorter terms, a scientist says "theoretically" only if the basis for the belief is tested and accepted. Otherwise, it's "hypothetically".

    3. Re:No theoretical explanation? by djupedal · · Score: 1

      'Why do they claim "As of now there is no theoretical explanation for why the fluid has the effects it does on laser light."?'

      Because the 'effect' is a false positive - wait for the other shoe to drop where they explain their mistake...

      The 'claim' is a _dis_claim(er) - big as can be.

    4. Re:No theoretical explanation? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Your understanding is correct, for an ideal scientist. Real scientists are much more sloppy with the terms. I've even heard a few suggest that they're interchangeable.

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    5. Re:No theoretical explanation? by somersault · · Score: 1

      I'm a computer scientist and I hadn't heard that distinction til now, but it does make sense, and google's define confirms it! I'd hypothesise that a lot of people consider them interchangeable.

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    6. Re:No theoretical explanation? by bynary · · Score: 1

      The parent said "scientist" not "code-monkey".

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    7. Re:No theoretical explanation? by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      "Real scientists are much more sloppy with the terms. I've even heard a few suggest that they're interchangeable."

      Maybe it's because *they are* one is simply a more refined version of the other. The hypothesis is the seed, the seed doesn't go away if it is found to be valid.

      There are no lies, only mis-shapen truths.

    8. Re:No theoretical explanation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's pretty sad. I've a CS masters and I learned how science works as an undergrad. Has CS gotten that bad or was I luck to go to a good school?

    9. Re:No theoretical explanation? by or-switch · · Score: 1
      It's even mroe nuanced than that. Scientists rarely ever completely redo another's experiment, though it does happen, and in this case likely will. Often when you look at one lab's results, you can see that their results predict that other things should be true. In the case of a mathematical explanation for this phenomenon, the math will also predict that other phenonmenon should also happen. Experiments will be designed to test those predictions. If they work out, then there's more evidence that the effect is real and the understanding of the effect is real. Iterations will then continue in such fashion to evolve the technology.

      Could just be me but was anyone else amused that they shot a laser through a container of kerosene?

    10. Re:No theoretical explanation? by Plutonite · · Score: 1

      This is how flame wars begin. Can I just say something about your mom and be done with it?

      PS: You were joking, but artificial intelligence, CS theory and other mathematically-based fields are very much scientific in nature and it is a little harsh to dismiss decades of scientific work on these matters. Hypotheses and theories do exist in mathematics, and CS is fancy mathematics.

    11. Re:No theoretical explanation? by somersault · · Score: 1

      Nah I knew how science worked at high school, but strangely enough we didnt really do any experiments in CS. I did know that a hypothesis is what you would write for a report, I didnt realise that a theory had to have been substantiated in any way though.

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    12. Re:No theoretical explanation? by somersault · · Score: 1

      That's DOCTOR "code-monkey" to you! >:(



      Not really though.

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    13. Re:No theoretical explanation? by bynary · · Score: 1

      You're right, I was joking. Also, I have a degree in CS (on /.? What are the odds?).

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    14. Re:No theoretical explanation? by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing someone might redo this one, even the same team, with different instrumentation and looking specifically for this behavior and more information about it. It wouldn't be entirely the same experiment, since this complete trapping of the light apparently was not the behavior they intended to see.

  17. That's a bit bland... by Hanners1979 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let's hope they're currently developing nano-croutons.

    1. Re:That's a bit bland... by somersault · · Score: 1
      Dont forget the nano-noodles. I hope to hear someone say nano-noodles in a mass storage symposium one day.

      We have achieved this by arranging the nano-noodles into a neural network of O(N) efficiency, fibrillating negatively to the natural nyquist sampling frequency of these engtangled nanotubes.
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  18. No definitive explanation.. by explosivejared · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A rigorous theoretical explanation is yet to come, but the researchers believe that the spheres are aligned by the magnetic field and form microcavities - filled by the ferrofluid - in which the photons get trapped, resonating back and forth

    I know they haven't published an explanation on this yet, but does anyone know what kind of power this sort of process takes? Power consumption would obviously be germane to computing using photons, which the article discusses. Also, what effect does the stasis have on the photon?

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    1. Re:No definitive explanation.. by pineapples · · Score: 1

      What is the response speed of the system, how instantaneous is the light release? It could open up a whole new world of optical TDM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-division_multiplexing I am just imagining someone sighing, walking over to the server room and whacking the multiplexer to excite the soup and restore previously blocked comms... :-D Ciao

    2. Re:No definitive explanation.. by orclevegam · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and when the system crashes you've got to reboot it with a flashlight.
      Seriously though, this is cool stuff, but probably at the absolute minimum 10 years from seeing mass market application.

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    3. Re:No definitive explanation.. by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1
      From the hypothesis in the article, that the varying magnetic strengths result in different size cavities to capture different wavelengths, I would guess very little power would be needed. On a chip you would only need to develop whatever gauss needed in a very small area.

      I believe the author of the article is confused. A ferrofluid is a suspension of very small magnetic particles. To keep the particles from clumping, they are coated with a asymmetrical molecule, one side of which will stick to the particles, and the other side repels itself and the fluid it is in, forming a one molecule thick membrane around the particle. Commonly used substances are oleic acid and kerosene. So this is not particles added to ferrofluid, it's just ferrofluid, which makes it an even cooler discovery in my book.

      Ok, I just reread that bit of the article. I was confused, it seems that this is a ferrofluid composed of two differently sized particles.

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  19. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Probably not: you need to keep a magnetic field of an exact strength around it to hold the light. So you still need batteries or some such to maintain the field. (You'd want an atrificial field so you can choose the wavelengths of light to capture, and because it is easier to remove uniformly.)

    There is probably also a maximum amount of energy you can store per unit volume, though I'd guess they don't have that worked out yet.

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  20. trapped light in a nano-soup concoction by SlipperHat · · Score: 1

    Won't anybody think of the photons!

  21. Data Processing? by Dripdry · · Score: 1

    Talk about Alpha Bits, literally.

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  22. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    This will do great things for the National Strategic Light Reserve, which is a vital part of our national security initiatives. Specifically, it exists to protect the nation in the event the sun burns out. Up until now, we've been storing light using a series of 100 watt bulbs and mirrors, but there has always been doubt as to what would happen to our light reserves in the event of a power outage. Perhaps this technology will help us solve that issue.

  23. Does it come in Campbells chunky? by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    Waiter, there's a photon in my nano-soup.

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  24. Kerosine? by AltGrendel · · Score: 1

    Hope you can use something less flammable than that as the suspension medium. It could give overclocking a whole new, exciting angle.

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  25. I turned on my flashlight and saw: by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

    I turned on my flash light the other day, and instead of a nice round beam on the wall I saw this message:

    "HELP! I AM TRAPPED IN A NANO SOUP FACTORY"

  26. Question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many Gujarati quantum researchers does it take to change a lightbulb?

    1. Re:Question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of them, in all possible combinations, held in a superposition of states.

    2. Re:Question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me get back to you on that ... right after somebody cuts the power

  27. Not just for breakfast any more! by BlueMerle · · Score: 1

    It is fantastic,' said Hema Ramachandran, who heads the photonics unit at the Raman Research Institute in Bangalore
    I love their noodles!!
    1. Re:Not just for breakfast any more! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're confusing words.

    2. Re:Not just for breakfast any more! by BlueMerle · · Score: 1

      No! You're just riding on the small bus!

  28. Mighty Boosh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Soup Soup
    Tasty Soup Soup
    Spicy carrot and corriander
    Chilli chowder
    Crouton Crouton
    Crunch friends in a liquid broth
    I am gespatchio Oh!
    I am a summer soup Mmmm!
    Miso Miso
    Fighting in the dojo
    Miso Miso
    Oriental Prince in the land of soup

    errr
    3 Profit.
    In the USA SHARKS WITH FRIGGIN' HOT GRITS DOWN PANTS do YOU!!!

    or something.

  29. Homer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mmmmmm... Nano-soup with liiiiiight...

  30. "Storing photons" by BritneySP2 · · Score: 1

    I wonder if storing photons should be actually seen as storing their energy (say, as that of an electron in an atom), rather than "storing" the photons themselves, as particles.

    1. Re:"Storing photons" by ajdecon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder if storing photons should be actually seen as storing their energy (say, as that of an electron in an atom), rather than "storing" the photons themselves, as particles.
      It's not just the energy. If I understand the article properly, and it works like other photon-storage schemes, the phase, polarization, etc. of the photons are also preserved, so that the light which is released is equivalent to the original light. It's possible there could be some frequency-changing effects, as in non-linear optics, but that's speculation.
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    2. Re:"Storing photons" by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

      That's the 64,000 question. Another explaination, is that the initial laser aligns the particles, and when they turn the magnetic field off, the nano-soup creates new photons. i.e. the energy output comes from the original magnetic field, not the input laser.

      If the actual photons are being stored, then it should be possible to use a femto-second laser to send a pulse into the soup, then by timing the turn-off right, get the photons to exit either in the forward direction or in reverse.

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    3. Re:"Storing photons" by smaddox · · Score: 1

      That seems like a good experiment to try. You should contact them and tell them about it. It could save them a lot of time and money.

      If it does turn out to just be storing energy, it would be interesting to see why it is converted back into photons of the same wavelength when the field is turned off.

      On the other hand, if it is just refracting the light, I could imaging this being used to create a sort of DRAM for photons. The reason I say DRAM is because I imagine it would have to be refreshed in order to replace photons being absorbed. That is, unless you could find a way to have the storage mechanism automatically replace/duplicate lost photons in a way similar to semiconductor lasers.

    4. Re:"Storing photons" by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      I wonder if this effect has anything to do with the hyperfine structure exhibited by electron orbitals in atoms. In a magnetic field, the energies of spin-up and spin-down electrons will diverge slightly, revealing hyperfine band structure.

      In an atom there are also forbidden energy transitions and metastable states. Maybe in the presence of a magnetic field the hyperfine structure of these nanoparticles causes new metastable states to arise in the structure of the molecule. Then, light of a particular frequency triggers an electron transition to a metastable state, which becomes an unstable state when the magnetic field is switched off. The electron then simply transitions to its base state releasing a photon of the same energy. This might be how light is "trapped" in this nanofluid.

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  31. Now if only they can keep the sacred cattle from by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Now if only they can keep the sacred cattle from shitting the streets of bombay we can all have fun !! If anything spoils fun in the streets, it's sacred cattle shit pies.

  32. India's such a terrible place... by BUL2294 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Light can't even escape!

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    1. Re:India's such a terrible place... by curmudgeous · · Score: 1
  33. A question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I was viewing the universe from the perspective of the beam of light, would I observe the passage of time once it had been halted? I mean, theoretically time seems to stand still when traveling at the speed of light, right? So if I were somehow to 'ride the light' and it stopped, then I guess I would start observing the passage of time. Would I notice a change?

    1. Re:A question... by ajdecon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that according to TFA, the light hasn't actually "stopped". Instead it's been trapped in resonators, so in a crude picture it's bouncing back and forth within the fluid. The time effects observed relative to light should remain as they usually are, per relativity.

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    2. Re:A question... by Toonol · · Score: 1

      I don't even understand how, if no time passes for a photon, how it can be created, destroyed, and bounced off stuff. Since position and direction can change despite the frozen status of the photon, doesn't that imply that those are not purely traits of the photon itself?

    3. Re:A question... by macromaniac · · Score: 1

      that would explain why they were still able to see the light when the laser was turned off; photons have to reach your eye to be seen, which makes me want to ask how long this fluid is able to internally refract light = /

  34. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was Earendil if I remember, not Elendil. Elendil was father of Isildur. Earendil was a mythical figure and carried a star across the sky.

    Meanwhile, Eledil is some sort of eczema medication.

    I know, it's all confusing.

  35. He also didn't think of gurlz kissing gurlz by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1, Troll

    > As of now there is no theoretical explanation for why the fluid has the effects it does on laser light.

    God never thought that far ahead?

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  36. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by yuriyg · · Score: 1

    Then you just charge it by leaving it in light (artificial or sunlight) and you've got another use out of it. Sounds familiar...
  37. I'm on a diet... by dwiget001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... I'll have the light nano-soup with the eggless nanoodles.

    1. Re:I'm on a diet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to eat there...
      Really good Nanoodles

  38. LIGHTSABERS!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C'mon. This many comments and no one has mentioned this is the first step towards LIGHTSABERS!!!

    What the hell is wrong with /. these days!!??

  39. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by 0xABADC0DA · · Score: 2

    There is probably also a maximum amount of energy you can store per unit volume, though I'd guess they don't have that worked out yet. If you can input more energy than is lost over time then you could conceivable build up any amount of energy until... what happens? The iron spheres melt from heat? A hole opens in the time-space continuum and the Enterprise C comes through? What?

    Some physicist please tell us what happens.
  40. Or from Wikipedia: by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1
    From TFA: "but the researchers believe that"

    Or, from the Wikipedia entry:
    "it is alleged that many researchers have been shown to speculate that"

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  41. black holes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they finally found what theyre made of!

  42. How much Soup.... by The+Relentless · · Score: 1

    ...would I need to be swimming in if I piss of Boeing and their 12,000lb Chemical Laser?! http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/199623173/article.pl

  43. The charge of the light brigade by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    is put into a whole new context.

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  44. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    In this case, the only way they're catching the light is effectively locking it up in a jar. If they open the jar to try and put more in, they lose the light they already captured.

    Assuming they do find some way of adding more photons without losing what they've already got, the two options are:

    1) The container fills up.
    2) The container breaks.

    Either way, nothing catastrophic would occur, unless they managed to contain a lot more energy. Just a flash of light. You can see from the photos in tfa, that the photons don't exhibit the same pattern that they did when the laser was firing (indicating some internal diffraction), so there wouldn't be a danger of having the equivalent of a more powerful laser shooting out in the same direction as the original beam. Then comes thermodynamics...It unlikely that they'd be able to contain energy in excess of the energy they're putting into containment (understatement), and entropy usually makes it so you have to spend a lot more energy, just to break even.

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  45. No surprise this is in India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This should not come as a surprise that this amazing find happened in India. After all, this is the land where the Vimana flying machines were created thousands of years ago, and also where the first nuclear war occurred, long before the Roman empire existed.

  46. Ha! Child's play! by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    Try trapping a politician into telling the truth. Now that takes skill.

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  47. Photon computing... not quite there by BlendieOfIndie · · Score: 1

    I'll accept that you can transfer information using photons. However, using this technology, magnetic fields are still required to store the photons. Hypothetically, if a computer was build using this nano-soup, then it would only be a hybrid-photon computer. Any ideas on what a photon computer buys you (technologically speaking). In copper wire, light travels slower than the speed of light in a vacuum (about 2/3c). But presumably the magnetic fields are created using standard electrical principles (like winding an iron nail with copper wire (to make an over simplification)). If the magnets are based on electricity, then it seems like this would limit the benefits of a photon computer. I guess it took decades to make a computer out of transistors. Maybe in 30 years there will be photon computers. I picture rooms filled with cans of photonsoup, and lines of people waiting with punch cards (deja vu?). Seriously, though. Does anyone have ideas pertaining to the first two paragraphs?

  48. Store electrons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    From the article:

    For over a decade scientists have been working towards light-based computing: where circuits control photons - particles of light - in the same way that they currently manipulate electrons. [...] Any microchip designed to process optical signals has to store photons, perhaps by slowing or trapping light in carefully designed crystals.

    Maybe I'm wrong (which is very likely) but since when do computer circuits/chips store electrons?
  49. Still waiting... by had3l · · Score: 1

    For them to trap sound in a bucket.

  50. Sacred Cattle Make Great Mock-Turtle! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

    BEAUTIFUL Soup, so rich and green,
    Waiting in a hot tureen!
    Who for such dainties would not stoop?
    Soup of the evening, beautiful Soup!
    Soup of the evening, beautiful Soup!

    Beau--ootiful Soo-oop!
    Beau--ootiful Soo-oop!
    Soo--oop of the e--e--evening,
    Beautiful, beautiful Soup!

    Beautiful Soup! Who cares for fish,
    Game, or any other dish?
    Who would not give all else for two
    Pennyworth only of Beautiful Soup?
    Pennyworth only of beautiful Soup?

    Beau--ootiful Soo-oop!
    Beau--ootiful Soo-oop!
    Soo--oop of the e--e--evening,
    Beautiful, beauti--FUL SOUP!

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    Never been known to fail..."
  51. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

    Best of all, we can stop Conserving light, and eliminate Daylight Savings once and for all!

  52. Is this the place . . . by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    where they invented Raman Noodles . . . "The Raman Research Institute".

    And now it's light trapping nano-soup!

    (Of course it will be sold in dehydrated form, so you have to add water and apply your own magnetic field before it's ready.)

    1. Re:Is this the place . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you know, Raman -- the guy who got the Nobel prize.

  53. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Personally, I'm holding out for Orion Slave girls.

    Or even Harry Mudd and enough Venus Drug I can contaminate the Water Supply with it.

    "I wish they all could be green or-i-on Giiiirrrrllllss . . . ." -- How has that not been filked yet? Tom, I'm so disappointed in you!

    Pug

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  54. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by fbartho · · Score: 1

    1. Make a ton of these chambers.
    2. Fill them sequentially with a high-powered laser.
    3. Unleash them simultaneously with a high-powered x N laser burst at the target (where N = number of chambers).
    4. ???
    5. Profit(able weapon)
    6. Sell consumer version of weapon for say welding based on normal hand lasers and long charge times.
    7. Profit(even more)

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  55. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by ruiner13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The unusual fluid, they say, works at room temperature, holds photons for far longer than other systems, and can also be tuned with a magnet to store any wavelength of visible light That is interesting. I wonder if they could extend it to trap other EM frequencies. It would make an interesting cloaking technology in my mind. Can absorb and possibly redirect radar, light, microwaves. It would seem to make decent shielding from x-rays in medical labs, who knows. I wish it said how much energy the magnetic fields took to sustain, and how many photons they can capture per area. If this turns out to be legit...
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  56. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

    I'm only an undergraduate, but I made a post further down discussing briefly what I think might be happening. But basically, if my idea is correct then there is a maximum amount of light energy which may be stored in this nanofluid because there are a finite number of electrons in appropriate states for this transition to occur.

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  57. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by Lord+Lemur · · Score: 1

    "can see from the photos in tfa, that the photons don't exhibit the same pattern that they did when the laser was firing (indicating some internal diffraction), so there wouldn't be a danger of having the equivalent of a more powerful laser shooting out in the same direction as the original beam." brownian motion, it's trapped in a liquid. I doubt highly that you would actully get much of a laser beam out of it under any circumstance, more of a omni-directional flashlight. Now if they can use that external magnet to focus the light's direction... With quantaum fluctuations they could get around the problem of thermodynamics for the short run, maybe substantialy more so if they can work so bizzaro magic with entangled particles in a "heat sink" but I doubt there would be any hopes of seeing the NC117-C. (I hope my sleep deprived geekness hasn't scrambled the call letters.)

  58. Re:Better than flashlights or the Light of Elendil by Lord+Lemur · · Score: 1

    1. Make a ton of these chambers. 1b. Build an array of bombpumped x-ray lasers. 2. Fill them sequentially with array of bomb pumped x-ray lasers. 3. Threaten to unleash them simultaneously with a high-powered x N laser burst at the target (where N = number of chambers where E = Mass of bomb * Speed of light^2). 4. Extort govenments of the world to not melt the sun. 5. Profit(able weapon) 6. Buy Sharks with consumer version on head.

  59. Doctor Who? by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else look at the article's image and think of the time vortex and opening scene from Doctor Who?

  60. Nano Soup? Come ON! Be serious! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what kind of username=ID10t is gonna make soup out of nanos? everybody knows they're for music! and no matter how much seasoning you put in they just don't taste good and are simply too hard to chew!

    please, let's keep /. to more serious issues.......

  61. ZARDOZ by CdnSlaine · · Score: 1

    Can't wait..