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Startrek.com Shutting Down

Curlsman writes to let us know that the fan site startrek.com, operated for 13 years by CBS, is being shut down and its staff laid off. Is this site worth a write-in campaign? From the (perhaps final) post: "Goodbye from the STARTREK.COM Team. Sadly, we must report that CBS Interactive organization is being restructured, and the production team that brings you the STARTREK.COM site has been eliminated. Effective immediately. We don't know the ultimate fate of this site, which has served millions of Star Trek fans for the last thirteen years. If you have comments, please send them to editor @ startrek.com — we hope someone at CBS will read them."

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  1. great news? by apodyopsis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be great news if they then donated the domain to a fan based organization who could then preserve, maintain and preferably enhance the whole website and continue to move it forwards.

    But I suspect it will be sold to the highest bidder, no doubt something to do with the new upcoming prequels.

    1. Re:great news? by Hurricane+Floyd · · Score: 5, Informative

      Probably end up with a cybersquatting fake search page on it like all the other premium domains that are abandoned. Or autoforward to the main CBS site.

    2. Re:great news? by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can't we use the Genesis device to loserform a new production team?

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    3. Re:great news? by marcello_dl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An "It's dead, Jim" 404 page would be most appropriate.

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    4. Re:great news? by bm_luethke · · Score: 5, Funny

      "But I suspect it will be sat on, no doubt something to do with afraid something not under their control may be done with it."

      There, I fixed the line for you. That is normally the way these types of things work, I can;t see them giving this site up for any reason whatsoever.

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    5. Re:great news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why close the site?
      They do not need to frak around with the content any more. It's all there. Let it be like a "book".

    6. Re:great news? by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hopefully they will let the domain expire so it can be snatched up by one of the various high-quality search engine providers like www.starttrek.com, www.jamestkirk.com, www.ussenterprise.com, klingon.com, romulans.com, etc. These sites show their dedication to Star Trek by providing search engines targeted towards their primary audience... namely Star Trek fanatics.

    7. Re:great news? by Octorian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, I think I remember when this site was first promoted. If I remember correctly, they used it as an excuse to forcibly shut down just about every fan site they could find on the Internet! (Memory Alpha probably came much later)

      Anyone else remember this period?

    8. Re:great news? by Superpants · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or perhaps they have a deal with Paramount, who will take over as I don't think CBS has anything to do with Star Trek anymore.

    9. Re:great news? by etherlad · · Score: 2, Informative

      CBS/Paramount were merged, but then split up.

      CBS got all rights to Star Trek on TV, while Paramount got rights to Star Trek in the theatres.

      StarTrek.com was going to be run by CBS Interactive, but it's a shared ownership. But you're right; with no new Trek on TV, they may be passing it along the chain to Paramount. No clue what they'll do with it.

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    10. Re:great news? by sou11ess · · Score: 5, Funny

      jamestkirk.com is my favorite stop for everything Star Trek, like a big picture of a TIE fighter.

    11. Re:great news? by RobertM1968 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, that would be a relevant possibility if the article title on /. weren't so erroneous.

      Curlsman writes to let us know that the fan site startrek.com, operated for 13 years by CBS, is being shut down and its staff laid off. Is this site worth a write-in campaign?

      Above is inaccurate...

      The current web team has been laid off... no indication has been given that the site is being shut down - and actually, no other announcement as to what happens with the site has been made either.

      A more logical scenario is that the team at CBS Interactive, currently responsible for their other online web ventures, will be assuming control of the startrek.com domain. Whether that means it will stay the same, be refocused to reflect it's relationship to the upcoming movie of the same name, or have various changes implemented has yet to be announced.

      Robert

      In the meantime, feel free to watch the rest of Kirk's 5 year mission (Seasons 4-5) at:
      http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

    12. Re:great news? by wickedskaman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man alive! Thank you so much for brining out this magnificent diversion to my day. You have boldly gone where my web surfing would not take me before... looking through those link farm sites and picking out the sweetest plum. On your recommendation I sampled a taste for myself and my life is richer, fulfilled for having followed your bold pioneering. This was a beautiful moment. All I can say is majQa'!

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    13. Re:great news? by hound3000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do remember that period. Dug up a link out of my 10 year old personal webpage I had at the time, and found out where the article lives now: Paramount Locks Phasers on Trek Fan Sites from 1996-12-18. Wow, that has been awhile.

  2. Not Quite by datan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually it says that the production team has been eliminated (which kinda sucks just during this holiday seasons), and the ultimate fate of the site is still unresolved.

    1. Re:Not Quite by Martian_Kyo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I find their use of the word 'eliminated' a bit overly dramatic. Dissolved maybe, but eliminated? It's not like they've all been taken to the alley behind the studio, shot in the head and then dumped in the river.

    2. Re:Not Quite by DeeQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      you work somewhere for 13 years and get laid off, I would use eliminated too.

    3. Re:Not Quite by tambo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually it says that the production team has been eliminated (which kinda sucks just during this holiday seasons), and the ultimate fate of the site is still unresolved.

      So, essentially, it's already dead and writing will do no good.

      Wow. This just about says it all - CBS has so completely wrecked the franchise that it doesn't even want to maintain its own franchise group. It's difficult to imagine a more complete case of mismanagement. I mean, the show has had one of the strongest, most resilient, self-sustaining cult followings for almost forty years. It's not easy to kill something like that.

      I suppose that for an encore, they'll sue Star Trek conventions into obsolescence for licensing violations. Or, maybe, Star Trek: The Musical. Either way, their scorched-earth policy can't leave any scrap of consumer interest in their franchise untorched!

      - David Stein

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    4. Re:Not Quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      , if you're 33 (that means, you've been involved in that since you were 20) and your main occupation has been 'maintaining startrek.com' (or any one website), maybe it's time to move on, and fatten up that CV. Ah, the modern world of work. No such thing as enjoying your craft, no such thing as loyalty to or from your company. All about "climbing the ladder" and "fattening up your CV". What a waste, 8+ hours a day spent on a rat race instead of practicing what you love.

      You can earn all the money in the world with your sort of attitude, but you'll still have approximately the same number of days on this earth as I do. The "pursuit of happiness" is an on-going experience, not a goal. If someone wants to spend a third of his working life maintaining an excellent web site (+other resources) on Star Trek, good for him. He's happy, he's harmless, he's giving other people joy.

      If you haven't found what makes you happy yet, heed the example of this sort of person - don't put him down.
    5. Re:Not Quite by goraknotsteve · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why the AC? I would be happy to post a heartfelt comment like that.

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    6. Re:Not Quite by Martian_Kyo · · Score: 3, Informative
      Ok i'd like to state a few things other already have.
      • In the announcement/article it hasn't been said that site is being shut down
      • In the announcement/article it hasn't been said that these people are fired, only team has been 'eliminated' they might have been moved to different projects.
      so my biggest (and really the only) grudge here, is that this is not really not newsworthy, the title should have been 'startrek.com team dissolved, future of website in question'

      Onto my next observation you said

      The "pursuit of happiness" is an on-going experience, not a goal. and i agree wholeheartedly, one could use the modified zen statement 'Meditation is enlightenment', and say that 'pursuit of happiness' is futile, because 'the pursuit is happiness'. but then you say

      If you haven't found what makes you happy yet, heed the example of this sort of person - don't put him down. which kind of makes it sound like it is a goal. Working for 13 years on one website, is hardly a pursuit. It seems to me that if anyone (there is high possibility no one is really wrong here) mistook happiness for 'goal' instead of 'on-going experience', it's the startrek.com team.
    7. Re:Not Quite by Martian_Kyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      hilarious isn't it....when you die we use kind words such as 'departed' and 'passed away'
      yet when you get fired they use harsh words such as 'eliminated' or 'terminated'.

      Makes it seem like getting fired is worse then dying.
      I bet George Carlin would get a kick out of that. :D

    8. Re:Not Quite by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can earn all the money in the world with your sort of attitude, but you'll still have approximately the same number of days on this earth as I do.
      Actually, if you earn "all the money in the world" and you live modestly and invest big, then you only have to work 15 years or so before you can live ENTIRELY off of your investments.

      Once you reach that point, your days on this earth really are your own, and they count for a lot more than the days of a cube-dweller trying to convincing himself that he has a good job.

      Very very VERY few people can legitimately say they would still do what they do for a living if they were independently wealthy. Most who make that claim are trying to fool themselves by comparing one crap job to some other slightly crappier jobs. I don't know many billionaire trust fund babies working in cube farms because they really "love what they do."

      My advice: Chase the high paying job, stuff as much as you can into the stock market (use leveraged funds like those from ProShares if you're brave), and start picking out "retirement" destinations in your mid thirties.
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    9. Re:Not Quite by feepness · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My advice: Chase the high paying job, stuff as much as you can into the stock market (use leveraged funds like those from ProShares if you're brave), and start picking out "retirement" destinations in your mid thirties. And don't have kids.
  3. Outcry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kaaaaaaahn!!

  4. its so obvious.. by RuBLed · · Score: 3, Funny

    damn you temporal agents...

  5. Bad move... by Hanners1979 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should have thought twice about having a 'Red Shirt Friday' in the office I guess...

  6. Give it to Wil Wheaton? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe they could give it to the poor actor who played Wesley, and he could write himself some dialogue that doesn't make him like a Slashdot poster child?

    1. Re:Give it to Wil Wheaton? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Watch what you're saying. The person in question may be reading this, armed with moderator points...

  7. MA? by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could memory-alpha.org be part of the reason? I know I go there for all things Trek (huge nerd here...get over it). I can't remember ever going to ST.com for anything.

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  8. Last editorial... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The last editorial on the site is about the writer's strike. It would be logical to draw your own conclusions.

  9. Subject by Legion303 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Is this site worth a write-in campaign?"

    Nope.

    (Count the mods who break their legs in a rush to mod this as "flamebait" even though I'm answering the question asked.)

  10. Who said it was shutting down? by mrpacmanjel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I visited the link and there is no mention of the site shutting down! (is kdawson again posting misleading headlines?)

    O.k., the production team have been pulled of the site - not a good sign!

    There seems to be alot of advertising on the site - *if* the site is shut down - that would be nuts (assuming it is generating a profit)! There is also a new Star Trek film in the pipeline why would they shut the site down.

    Unless they will use the domain to promote the new film - hopefully the content will still be available if people are interested in the film it makes sense to allow the 'old' content to be available.

    "Live long and prosper?"

  11. 404 by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's dead, Jim.

  12. I was thinking that... by Cyno01 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While reading the summay. Last fall/winter/ this spring i watched all 6 star trek series and 10 movies in chronological order by episode. Memory alpha was an indispensible resource for getting the order right, as well as reading background info and things on just about evey episode while i was watching, i cant remember ever going to the official site...

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    1. Re:I was thinking that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have you ever kissed a girl?

    2. Re:I was thinking that... by rasputin465 · · Score: 2

      hmm... and neither had I, until you pointed out the reference.

      And in case anyone else hasn't, here's the clip

  13. Re:Say Wha!? by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't Paramount have a movie coming out, by the very name "Star Trek", for Xmas next year? Seems like a dumb time to drop the site.

    Not if they plan to re-use the domain to promote that film.

  14. good riddance by sankekur · · Score: 4, Informative

    The website is a mess anyways, Memory Alpha is much better, its the star trek wiki, http://memory-alpha.org/

  15. My e-mail by chi_thirdrail · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's unfortunate that the Star Trek site is being discontinued. Even if the site cannot be maintained any longer (despite a movie apparently being in production), the resources accumulated on the site are important, at least from a historic perspective. For a television and movie franchise to last around 40 years, and have the influence it has had on pop culture and scientific development (the standard "flip phone," for example, was created by a Motorola engineer who readily admits it was inspired by the "communicator" from the original Star Trek series), it deserves at least a Web site that archives important information about the show. I used to work for MSN (at Microsoft's Redmond-West campus, where MSN was operated out of) in the late 90s, when the site still existed in its early state startrek.msn.com. Even after moving beyond the days of "MSN Shows" this very site lived on and evolved to keep up with the series and discuss the latest episodes of DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise, as well as maintain a comprehensive history of the various series and movies. It never outlived a purpose as a site. I, personally, maintain several Web sites, including one that has sent over 240,000 letters to legislators in Illinois to encourage proper investment in public transportation infrastructure in the Chicago area. Considering that I personally spend about $200/year on the sites I am in charge of, it's shocking to me that StarTrek.com can't even be maintained as an informational resource by such a massive media conglomerate. Even if a salary needs to be paid to a developer to maintain the site, it's still peanuts. Even if there can't be the kind of investment to keep the content fresh, what exists now deserves to remain available to the public with whatever little maintenance it requires. Please, at the very least, maintain the Web site as it has existed as a resource to the fans, to the occasional watcher, and to the curious about the details of literally hundreds of installments of high-quality and socially important science fiction television and movies that have influenced generations of people to set higher standards for advancement, understanding, and peace. Star Trek, a fan of the show or not, must be acknowledged as having had a huge impact on pop culture and our technological and scientific direction. The least one can do is keep a Web site running on a server for what amounts to peanuts.

  16. And takes out 5000 blogs... by tekrat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously... This is something I always wondered about with blogs -- what happens when a major site like this (that I'm sure has been linked to by blogs and used as fodder for blog posts) shuts down? Can you imagine how many blogs will be inconvenienced when Youtube goes the way of the dinosaur as well? All it takes is some bean counter to kill half the internet.

    Live Long and Prosper, "startrek.com" .... or perhaps not.

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  17. Re:too bad .. by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a pretty long trip to blaming the gov't for this. Thank you for restoring my faith in crazy.

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  18. CBS figures by Trikenstein · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Why should they pay salaries and provide bandwidth when fans/geeks will do it at no cost to CBS.
    Memoryalpha and other fan sites will continue to exist. CBS will retain ownership of Startrek,com and use it as they see fit. Probably for new ST universe projects they have an investment in.


    They really could have been more sensitive about their timing of firing the staff though, and I hope they reap all the negative karma they deserve.

  19. Mod Parent -1, Sad by Kawahee · · Score: 5, Funny
    Mod Parent -1, Sad please:

    Last fall/winter/ this spring i watched all 6 star trek series and 10 movies in chronological order by episode
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  20. Re:Mirror? by Kredal · · Score: 4, Funny

    if it is, the mirror will have a goatee and be evil!

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  21. preceding release of the new movie? by dunadan67 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Timing seems a bit strange considering the movie is upcoming; you'd think they'd want to preserve the online fan community to hype the new picture. Especially considering that CBS and Paramount Pictures are one and the same (I think?)

  22. Trekkies, DON'T DISPAIR! There is another source . by Jerry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

    and it includes D.C. Fontana and many of the original Startrek series crew.

    The episodes are free, and some extend old story lines.

    Over all, very enjoyable!

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  23. I know what I blame. by dreemernj · · Score: 3, Funny

    Voyager. I'm not sure how but I'm sure it's Voyager's fault the site is closing down.

    Some CBS exec happened to catch a re-run of the Voyager episode with Tuvix and said "That's it. Kill the site."

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  24. Re:Not even worthy of thinking about letter writin by spidercoz · · Score: 2
    -1 Flamebait

    You obviously don't get it, and that's fine. 90% of the population doesn't either. They also don't get things like working together for a better future instead of competing ourselves into oblivion. Or wonderment of the unknown possibilities of existence. Simple curiosity about their environment seems to have abandoned them as well. Star Trek is the only thing that keeps those of us who do get it optimistic, hopeful that the narrow-minded, short-sighted masses will eventually fade away and a better tomorrow will emerge.

    none really stand the test of time Name another show from 40 years ago that people still talk about and watch. Derp.

    never been particularly relevant

    failed to find a timeless relevance

    sepulchre to this irrelevance You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    The demise of the website is sad, but Trek will continue, despite people like you, as it always has.

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  25. Kill it now!! by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kill it off now! Make it disappear for 5-10 years. THEN bring it back. The problem with the entire ST franchise is that it has been run into the ground. Kill it, let people forget about it for a few years, THEN bring it back. Hopefully by that time, Rick Berman (however you spell it) will have died off and some other writer can bring back this franchise.

  26. Re:Not even worthy of thinking about letter writin by TigerPlish · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, "Piece of the Action" didn't have a message. Like how foolish it is to base a whole society's rules and morality on one book of unknown, unproven origin. Right. Check.

    So, "Balance of Terror" wasn't referring to nuke all-out warfare from the submariner's POV. Right. Check.

    So, "Who Mourns for Adonais" doesn't indicate that one day, this planet will cast aside the notion of supernatural "gods." Right. Check.

    That you fail to be receptive to the not-so-obvious stuff in pop culture tells me that you're only skin deep, and fail to look deeper, past the glossy, campy, Technicolor surface. Let me guess, you likely think Hendrix, the Beatles and Pink Floyd were just pop acts.

    S'okkay, for every 1000 of you who aren't receptive to the undercurrent of fresh ideas buried deep in the arts, there is probably 1 to 10 who are receptive -- they are the ones who'll change the world.

    Not you.

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  27. Rather, Heghlu'meh qaq jajvam. by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It is a good day to die.

  28. Your math was a little off. by Cyno01 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    714 regular episodes * 45min
    22 animated episodes * 25min
    10 movies * ~120min

    565 hours / 9 months (sept to may i believe) is roughly 2 hours a day, so i averaged about 3 episodes a day, not as bad as it sounds.

    And for the record, i have a job and live with my fiancee.

    As for my overall opinions of the franchise...

    Enterprise, definitely watchable and definitely underrated. Never watched it when it aired, but the 3rd and 4th seasons were better than a lot of Voyager.

    TOS, good, has stood the test of time pretty well, but not fantastic.

    TNG, also good, but soooo overrated. I was a little young when it was on (1yo and 8yo), so i hadnt seen much of it, its all pretty good and there are some classic episodes, but its definitely overrated IMO.

    DS9 was a rewatch for me, but it was as good as i remember it and is still my favorite series.

    VOY, another rewatch, worse than i remember since i was still only in middle school when it was on. It got off to less of a rocky start than TNG or DS9, whos first 2 seasons were pretty bad, but voyager got worse as it went along. Overall i think i liked enterprise better than voyager.

    And the movies dont require much comment, i think the accepted order of best to worst is 4, 2, 8, 6, 3, 10, 1, 9, 7, 5.

    It was a fun experience, and i recommend it, its not as daunting as it seems, 2 eps a day and you can do it in a year. Part of the fun for me was watching them in chronological order, which helped break up TNG, DS9 and VOY, although i still had to watch 2 seasons of voyager straight through. Interesting to note, the finale of TNG and the premier of VOY are only separated chronologically by the first 7 episodes of the third season of DS9.

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