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Possible Active Glacier Found On Mars

FireFury03 writes "The European Space Agency's Mars Express spacecraft has spotted an icy feature which appears to be a young active glacier. Dr Gerhard Neukum, chief scientist on the spacecraft's High Resolution Stereo Camera said 'We have not yet been able to see the spectral signature of water. But we will fly over it in the coming months and take measurements. On the glacial ridges we can see white tips, which can only be freshly exposed ice'. Estimates place the glacier at 10,000 — 100,000 years old."

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  1. Possible landing zone for a Mars Mission? by Dr_Banzai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This might be a good place to land a Mars mission because you could use the ice to create oxygen, water, fuel etc.

    1. Re:Possible landing zone for a Mars Mission? by CrackPipePls · · Score: 5, Funny

      and more importantly, to cool beer :-)

    2. Re:Possible landing zone for a Mars Mission? by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When it's a choice between that and your own urine, which has been reprocessed through the spaceship urine reprocessing system 700 times, the dirty ice will start to look mighty appealing.

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    3. Re:Possible landing zone for a Mars Mission? by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, to MAKE beer, then cool it. Dried malt extract and hops pellets are far more compact than bringing lots of extra beer. Mars homebrew!

  2. Sweet! by scubamage · · Score: 5, Funny

    The doctor in the article is named Dr. Neukem. If his first name is Duke, I would not want to be the one to contest his theory.

    1. Re:Sweet! by Fx.Dr · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why is that? It's not like he'd ever find you. Worst case scenario is that every six years he'd pop his head up to remind you that he's still around.

    2. Re:Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm a little mistrustful of someone who INSISTS that "white tips ... can only be freshly exposed ice"...

      Agreed 100%. Perhaps now my "Mars is made of meringue" hypothesis will finally be taken seriously!

    3. Re:Sweet! by AJWM · · Score: 4, Funny

      You misunderstand (or somebody did).

      It's not Duke Neukem, it's Doc Neukem.

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  3. Re:Not a surprise. by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the pleasure out of this finding is yet more evidence that Mars is an *active* planet. We've known for over a century about Martian seasons, for quite some time about the vast dust storms, and recently there have been some tanatalizing hints of ongoing vulcanism, and now an active glacier. For a glacier to be active, it means there has to be some sort of hydrological cycle to replenish the ice.

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  4. Missing by Etrias · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh good! Glaciers on Mars. Nice for them to turn up because we're starting to miss a few down here.

  5. Re:Not a surprise. by idontgno · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Besides that, I simply cannot wait for the ID explanation of life on Mars.

    Leaving aside the (in my opinion) intellectual dishonesty of ID, a cool (and admittedly fictional) creationist take on the idea of life on Mars: Out of the Silent Planet by C. S. Lewis.

    Nothing I'm aware of in creationist canon explicitly excludes the idea of life elsewhere in this universe. It's just not mentioned. Only the most closed-minded would insist "only the things described in $HOLYBOOK happened, nothing else!".

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  6. Re:Not a surprise. by Shadowplay00 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only the most closed-minded would insist "only the things described in $HOLYBOOK happened, nothing else!". Unfortunately that describes far too many these days. Even if you were to argue that's a small proportion of active Christians in the US, it's enough to affect attempts to teach science. Look at all the controversies over teaching ID in public schools: do you really think these schoolboard members are terribly open-minded?
  7. Mars Ice "Premium" Bottled Water? by Zymergy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Executive: "How can we get ahold of some of that Mars glacial ice? We could make a killing selling it to the bottled water crowd!"

    R&D: "We could make it a dilute 'blend' with filtered municipal tap water and disclose (in small print) that it is 'filtered for your purity'."

    Marketing: "The bottle cost should be just under $0.05 each (with printing) and we could put on its side in BOLD TYPE: 'Contains REAL Mars Water' and actual unit cost could be $1000 each. Then we could spread a rumor that it has aphrodisiac properties, it worked for the rhinoceros horn market!"...

    NASA Administration Plebe to NASA Director: "Sir, I think I have found a new way to raise REAL corporate money for our manned Mars missions..."

  8. Re:we must go to mars by rucs_hack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, perverse though it sounds, global warming is exactly what we have to do on Mars if its ever to be habitable without assisted environments (posh way of saying biodome..) in a thousand yars or so. All that subsurface ice needs to be melted to bring the oceans back and build a decent atmosphere, one better at deflecting solar radiation.

    Without it we'd have to wait tens of thousands of years, or more, while specially engineered plant life (very basic plant life) and such worked its slow magic on the atmosphere. With a bit of global warming technology (TM) we can shorten the time considerably. If oceans were brought back the process would be much faster.

    The question is how can it be acheived in a way that can be managed, so it doesn't spin out of control. Personally, since I won't be alive in either case, a thing I have in common with everyone reading this, I'd go for the slower option, or even go for the option of spending a few hundred years seeing if there were any remnant native organisms that could be helped back into activity and do the job for us.

    That there are active glaciers is fascinating though. What a shame that almost all of the current environment of mars would need to be destroyed or irreversibly altered in order to host our species. It doesn't bode well for our entry into the interstellar club. How ironic if the destructive aliens we worry about so much in fiction turn out to be us.