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The LCD Panel vs. The Crossbow
Ev!LOnE was one of several readers to point out an interesting LCD stress test: "ASUS recently came out with Asus LS201 — a TFT monitor with a protective panel made of crystal-sapphire. What I didn't imagine was the amount of punishment that thing can take. Apparently some Ukrainians shared the same concern and went for a test." Translation not necessary, but some clues about the narration would be appreciated in comments.
Do not use this monitor when you are frustrated. Banging your fist against the screen will result in broken fingers.
ordodk (2 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam +6 Poor comment Good comment Reply | Spam I am getting a couple of these! The last four monitors I had was pierced by crossbow bolts.
You do realize that, sooner or later, one of us is going to find you and kill you, don't you?
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
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well if he can cock the crossbow with just his hand then it's not a very powerful crossbow. try a 90lb long bow and get back to me.
like that monitor though. wonder if it would survive a sledge hammer to the screen. i've seen monitors taking a few punches from angry windows users.
I'm sure Big Blue would have love it!
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While that left me agape, I keep having visions of police with these things strapped on the front and back flashing subliminal messages and doubling as bulletproof vests.
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I do wonder how they do against a bullet (slow bullet like an ordinary 38), maybe you need to double them
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I'm gonna build one with a built in crossbow so the user knows if they shoot at it, it'll return fire. That will prevent the user from damaging it in the first place. Don't build tough, build smart lol.
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Yeah. You only need to get attacked by a crossbow about 5 times and that monitor has paid itself off.
These displays should have a sticker:
Warning: Rebounding Wiimotes may cause severe injury.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
In most offices I've worked in your monitor just has to withstand NERF darts and the occasional hacky-sack attack. I take it Ukranian office wars are a little bit more serious with their choice of weapons.
It's no titanium. Or is it? :)
They make a nice monitor, with expensive materials, and then they put it on a shoddy non-tilting stand? WTF? What an insane world we live in. Why the hell does anybody even make non-tilting display stands?
... and then they built the supercollider.
One such product is the Asus LS201 -- a TFT monitor with a protective panel made of crystal-sapphire. Our Asus rep says not only is it scratch-proof, but it's also 'punch-proof'. We were dared to hit it as hard as we could and told it wouldn't break.
Never ones to shirk from a challenge, we formed an orderly queue and gleefully punched the hell out of our first LS201 sample. Unfortunately one of our punchers was wearing a ring, and the offending jewellery left a 2cm scratch on the supposedly scratch-proof monitor.
Asus sent us a replacement and politely asked us to remove any jewellery before we let rip. We duly obliged, but instead of emerging unscathed, the LS201 developed a small, unidentifiable blemish below the protective panel. It wasn't a scratch or a dent -- it looked more like a small piece of fluff.
Our verdict: the LS201 will not shatter into a million pieces when punched (don't try this at home). It's therefore ideal if you're the type of person who likes to attack inanimate objects, or just drop blameless pieces of technology. But it's most definitely not scratch-proof -- we don't care what the stickers say.
During the Vietnam war some US helicopters were using synthetic sapphire crystals for bullet-proof windows.
It's nice they have gotten the process cheap enough for LCD screens. Definitely won't scratch when you clean it with ordinary cleaners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-2D9osn6yI
That looked a lot like the handmade crossbows fabricated by "Iolo the Bard," a well-known SCA figure in Austin circa 1990 (and inspiration for the character of Iolo in the Ultima games.)
Iolo's bows weren't made to be competitive with modern polonium-doped nanocrystalline bolt launchers or whatever, but to recall the craft of medieval weaponsmiths. Still more than enough to shoot your eye out with.
I agree with the other poster who suggested that these LCDs are coming to police riot shields near you. That's just too cool an idea to pass up. Shove enough images of flowers and frolicking puppies in their faces, and the Black Bloc crowd will surrender without a fight, right?
Dahlmann tightly grips the knife, which he may have no idea how to use, and steps out into the plain.
The tips could have easily been bent by that shot, even by a weak crossbow as it appears was used here.. if they were first annealed. From the glance at the quarrels in the video, they appeared to have been subjected to high temperatures at some point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annealing_(metallurgy) Perhaps even made from lead or babbitt, from another look at the video. Hard to tell.. Regardless, though.. I am impressed by this demonstration.
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Yeah, I see cleavage on my monitor all the time, but it never seems to harm the screen.
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The Ukrainians' background music was Mason Williams's Classical Gas:
I wonder if they have to pay these things called "royalties" in the Ukraine?
That kind of toughness makes real sense in expensive mobile devices. I was surprised that the iPhone didn't come with a sapphire or diamond screen.
This isn't exotic technology today. The typical supermarket checkout scanner uses sapphire or diamond coating on the glass. That's why it can survive years of canned goods (and, for Home Depot, hand tools) being scraped across the scanner. In the checkout scanner world, plain glass lasts 2-4 weeks. For diamond, the makers claim 9 years. The sapphire vendor offers a lifetime warranty.
Yeah! What kind of weak-ass monitor can only take a couple hits from a 90lb pull crossbow? Shit, I hit my LCD with a 280b pull all the time. Just the other day, I put ten rounds with my 9mm into it. It's still standing! I put a youtube up of it. 50,000,000 hits in two hours. SUCK IT DOWN!
First, it's Russian he is speaking, despite the commercial being Ukrainian. The only thing worth translating he says at about 1:00 : "The thing is, that the coating of the monitor is out of the ordinary. In theory, it should withstand extreme stress, some even say it is bullet-proof. That's exactly what we wanted to check. The monitor has survived the shoot, but since the manufacturer gave it to us for tearing apart, we decided to literally kill it. For this we have a crossbow and crossbow arrows." In the end he concludes that this is probably the most resilient monitor in the world.
There is no sig.
.. and put this tech into the next Thinkpad! .. with LED backlighting, kthnx
Note to self: Ukrainians do NOT understand how to play video games. Rewrite instructions to say, when the game requires you to shoot someone onscreen, we do NOT mean shoot the screen. Really. Also tell the Poles there is a Delete key for word processing, and WhiteOut is not actually a good idea.
Ship it across the United States and back using FedEx, in a cardboard box marked "Fragile."
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It read like foxtrott for me.
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call me when the arrow doesn't pierce the monitor, punch through the wall behind it, and impale itself in a marketing intern.
Well I did it, but I missed the marketing intern - I think the monitor knocked the arrow off course. Any pointers?
It's official. Most of you are morons.
I found a book of simple Russian phrases to try and figure out that video. It seems that the announcer's record is scratched, and his hovercraft is full of eels. ...bouncy bouncy.
I just have fohooCOWtville.myminicity.com (remove herbivore) blocked in my Privoxy setup. It certainly reduces fear of these nasty links.
And, oh yes, if there's a fund setup to catch and kill these bastards, I fully support it.
Or just DDOS ripway.com (or is it h1.ripway.com), I guess.
I just have to know -- Will It Blend?
I think that you are, somehow, missing the point.
I don't give a damn how strong the crossbow is. He shot it at the monitor and it bounced off
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Sapphire is actually transparent aluminium ... er, well aluminium oxide anyway.
Just as good for transporting whales I assure you.
I totally agree with your post, except for the general sentiment of it, your implied conclusions, and almost every single point you tried to make.
I guess that means I didn't really agree with you much.
Well, why not take your best crossbows and your superior bows and fire them at your own LCD screens and compare your results? You can use any background color you like.
You may need someone to help you aim, as your vision might not be as good as you think, otherwise you may have noticed some other things in that video. Things like the part where the marker is removed from a part of the screen that was displaying white, not red. Or perhaps the part where the same bolts that were able to disable the screen penetrate a half-inch into a sheet of wood. Or perhaps the part where the screen is struck with a hammer.
According to you, this screen fared poorly as "the deep red background that the screen displayed, for example, will tend to hide scratches". Seriously, try these tests yourself. See if any color except black will hide the scratches on your monitors.
If it's in you sig, it's in your post.
CRTs are pretty durable. A typical CRT screen is already holding back a few thousand pounds of atmospheric force; a mere punch or two isn't going to bother it.
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
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Resisting a normal arrow from a crossbow is nice and all, but how does it handle a fire arrow from a crassbow+1?
Hey! That's my sig you're smoking there!
I'll just aim my crossbow for the fleshy part in front of the monitor. problem solved! ;p
They're using their grammar skills there.
Missing the point? I think the arrows are now missing their points.
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Scratch sapphire? With sapphire being #9 on the Mohs hardness scale... not going to happen (except with a ruby, another sapphire, or of course a diamond). Maybe silicon carbide if you believe a certain wiki. Incidentally, the "transparent aluminum" tag isn't too far off. Never thought about sapphire during, what was it, ST-4 ?
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Nope, sex toys are excluded as un-patentable subject matter (immoral) - the same class as drug paraphernalia
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You can see that the monitor was dented by the crossbow by looking at the reflections. Still, my monitors would have exit wounds, so it's still pretty impressive.
I see your informative link, and raise you a pithy comment.
Forget fists...
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Well, one of his redirects go to h1.ripTREXway.com/slashdot1000/index.php (remove dinosaur; Please don't go to the link, it redirects directly to his Minicity spam. I can safely go there because I have his minicity explicitly blocked in my Privoxy setup). He posted the direct link to that PHP script once, but I'm too lazy to dig it up again.
From this alone, we can't exactly say anything (he could have hacked someone else's account and put that redirect script there---after all, if he has real access to a website, he would do a real redirect with the HTTP server, or he's just that stupid), but, well, I for one am done giving the benefit of doubt. But perhaps DDOSing Ripway wouldn't do the intended harm. We need to find a server for which he actually pays for bandwidth, not a flat fee.
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No kidding. A friend of mine had an LCD ruined by his kid...he shot an Airsoft gun at it. That plastic pellet bounced off too, but it did a number on it. Cracked glass, leakage, etc. He was pretty pissed.
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Sapphire is the infamous Star Trek 'transparent aluminium', but it comes in many colours, from transparent to blue, pink or red (ruby).
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Hardness isn't everything. You can break a diamond into pieces with a hammer, even if the diamond is harder than the steel. Hardness means basically that you can't scratch a sheet of diamond with a steel bolt.
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Welcome to TechnoDay. Is your monitor possessed? How can you tell and if so what can you do about it?
We took a standard LCD monitor that had become possessed after an all night LAN-party playing oblivion. (some discussion about exorcism I could not make out)
We tried writing (the exorcism?) on the screen in permanent marker. But the state of demonic possession prevented the ink from sticking, it just wiped off with a small amount of holy water.
We tried smashing the monitor with a hammer.
Research on Wikipedia told us that the only way to undo the demonic possession was with a silver tipped arrow. Fortunately I was able to win a crossbow on EBay, but the arrows supplied are steel, not silver.
You can see the power of the crossbow shooting into wood. Now lets try against the monitor. One! Two!
As you can see Wikipedia was right, if you are faced with demonic possession you have to go with the silver, steel simply does not work. We will try that next week.
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