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The LCD Panel vs. The Crossbow
Ev!LOnE was one of several readers to point out an interesting LCD stress test: "ASUS recently came out with Asus LS201 — a TFT monitor with a protective panel made of crystal-sapphire. What I didn't imagine was the amount of punishment that thing can take. Apparently some Ukrainians shared the same concern and went for a test." Translation not necessary, but some clues about the narration would be appreciated in comments.
Do not use this monitor when you are frustrated. Banging your fist against the screen will result in broken fingers.
I'm just throwing this out there so I can claim prior art when the sex toy industry patents the idea of using that monitor in sex toys.
ordodk (2 hours ago) Show Hide Marked as spam +6 Poor comment Good comment Reply | Spam I am getting a couple of these! The last four monitors I had was pierced by crossbow bolts.
You do realize that, sooner or later, one of us is going to find you and kill you, don't you?
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
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well if he can cock the crossbow with just his hand then it's not a very powerful crossbow. try a 90lb long bow and get back to me.
like that monitor though. wonder if it would survive a sledge hammer to the screen. i've seen monitors taking a few punches from angry windows users.
I'm sure Big Blue would have love it!
Be relentless!
... bounce. Perfect for anyone who gets their hands on one this Christmas.
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While that left me agape, I keep having visions of police with these things strapped on the front and back flashing subliminal messages and doubling as bulletproof vests.
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I do wonder how they do against a bullet (slow bullet like an ordinary 38), maybe you need to double them
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I'm gonna build one with a built in crossbow so the user knows if they shoot at it, it'll return fire. That will prevent the user from damaging it in the first place. Don't build tough, build smart lol.
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shoot it with a .44 mag or a rifle with a 7.62 or a .50 cal sniper rifle :)
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Yeah. You only need to get attacked by a crossbow about 5 times and that monitor has paid itself off.
In most offices I've worked in your monitor just has to withstand NERF darts and the occasional hacky-sack attack. I take it Ukranian office wars are a little bit more serious with their choice of weapons.
It's no titanium. Or is it? :)
I agree with other comments that it seemed like a pretty lame cross bow, and I wonder of which material the tip is made. It looked soft. It is still a good lesson on the strength of single crystals.
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They make a nice monitor, with expensive materials, and then they put it on a shoddy non-tilting stand? WTF? What an insane world we live in. Why the hell does anybody even make non-tilting display stands?
... and then they built the supercollider.
One such product is the Asus LS201 -- a TFT monitor with a protective panel made of crystal-sapphire. Our Asus rep says not only is it scratch-proof, but it's also 'punch-proof'. We were dared to hit it as hard as we could and told it wouldn't break.
Never ones to shirk from a challenge, we formed an orderly queue and gleefully punched the hell out of our first LS201 sample. Unfortunately one of our punchers was wearing a ring, and the offending jewellery left a 2cm scratch on the supposedly scratch-proof monitor.
Asus sent us a replacement and politely asked us to remove any jewellery before we let rip. We duly obliged, but instead of emerging unscathed, the LS201 developed a small, unidentifiable blemish below the protective panel. It wasn't a scratch or a dent -- it looked more like a small piece of fluff.
Our verdict: the LS201 will not shatter into a million pieces when punched (don't try this at home). It's therefore ideal if you're the type of person who likes to attack inanimate objects, or just drop blameless pieces of technology. But it's most definitely not scratch-proof -- we don't care what the stickers say.
During the Vietnam war some US helicopters were using synthetic sapphire crystals for bullet-proof windows.
It's nice they have gotten the process cheap enough for LCD screens. Definitely won't scratch when you clean it with ordinary cleaners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-2D9osn6yI
I agree, it looked like he required no effort at all to pull it back.
I'd like to see it hit with a 175lb crossbow!
That looked a lot like the handmade crossbows fabricated by "Iolo the Bard," a well-known SCA figure in Austin circa 1990 (and inspiration for the character of Iolo in the Ultima games.)
Iolo's bows weren't made to be competitive with modern polonium-doped nanocrystalline bolt launchers or whatever, but to recall the craft of medieval weaponsmiths. Still more than enough to shoot your eye out with.
I agree with the other poster who suggested that these LCDs are coming to police riot shields near you. That's just too cool an idea to pass up. Shove enough images of flowers and frolicking puppies in their faces, and the Black Bloc crowd will surrender without a fight, right?
Dahlmann tightly grips the knife, which he may have no idea how to use, and steps out into the plain.
The tips could have easily been bent by that shot, even by a weak crossbow as it appears was used here.. if they were first annealed. From the glance at the quarrels in the video, they appeared to have been subjected to high temperatures at some point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annealing_(metallurgy) Perhaps even made from lead or babbitt, from another look at the video. Hard to tell.. Regardless, though.. I am impressed by this demonstration.
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Heck, if they can test ammo penetration on books, frozen clothing and bread, why not this monitor?
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The Ukrainians' background music was Mason Williams's Classical Gas:
I wonder if they have to pay these things called "royalties" in the Ukraine?
With the hammer, he was definitely holding back at the last second of the swing. the crossbow was not all that impressive looking, i was expecting a modern hunting setup with titanium and pulleys and everything, but the 'weapon' he used was probably inherited from his Ukrainian dirt-farming ancestry. The bolt would have blunted just the same fired at my CRT. What i learned here is that Ukrainians are timid and have access to only the most primitive of arms. How are they surviving the onslaught of Chernobyl super-mutated wildlife?
Who parsed the opening credits as: "Crackpot"?
Until I realized it was a foreign alphabet and then I parsed it as "Cockpot"...
Apparently I need help.
That kind of toughness makes real sense in expensive mobile devices. I was surprised that the iPhone didn't come with a sapphire or diamond screen.
This isn't exotic technology today. The typical supermarket checkout scanner uses sapphire or diamond coating on the glass. That's why it can survive years of canned goods (and, for Home Depot, hand tools) being scraped across the scanner. In the checkout scanner world, plain glass lasts 2-4 weeks. For diamond, the makers claim 9 years. The sapphire vendor offers a lifetime warranty.
It'll take all the fun out of Call of Duty 5 if they model the monitors after those.
It's fun shooting the monitors while the sarge is talking...
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Yeah! What kind of weak-ass monitor can only take a couple hits from a 90lb pull crossbow? Shit, I hit my LCD with a 280b pull all the time. Just the other day, I put ten rounds with my 9mm into it. It's still standing! I put a youtube up of it. 50,000,000 hits in two hours. SUCK IT DOWN!
First, it's Russian he is speaking, despite the commercial being Ukrainian. The only thing worth translating he says at about 1:00 : "The thing is, that the coating of the monitor is out of the ordinary. In theory, it should withstand extreme stress, some even say it is bullet-proof. That's exactly what we wanted to check. The monitor has survived the shoot, but since the manufacturer gave it to us for tearing apart, we decided to literally kill it. For this we have a crossbow and crossbow arrows." In the end he concludes that this is probably the most resilient monitor in the world.
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.. and put this tech into the next Thinkpad! .. with LED backlighting, kthnx
Note to self: Ukrainians do NOT understand how to play video games. Rewrite instructions to say, when the game requires you to shoot someone onscreen, we do NOT mean shoot the screen. Really. Also tell the Poles there is a Delete key for word processing, and WhiteOut is not actually a good idea.
Ship it across the United States and back using FedEx, in a cardboard box marked "Fragile."
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The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Finally an lcd that can take some of Jeremy's antics!
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I'm pretty sure it came from this CD. I'll have to dig that one out of my collection.
call me when the arrow doesn't pierce the monitor, punch through the wall behind it, and impale itself in a marketing intern.
Well I did it, but I missed the marketing intern - I think the monitor knocked the arrow off course. Any pointers?
It's official. Most of you are morons.
I found a book of simple Russian phrases to try and figure out that video. It seems that the announcer's record is scratched, and his hovercraft is full of eels. ...bouncy bouncy.
built a gaming PC for a guy who had serious anger management issues. Caught him punching his CRT once. Lucky he hasn't busted it yet.
Side note - That was a REALLY cheesy arrangement of Mason William's "Classical Gas" in the background. Sounds much better with classical guitar leading it.
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That crossbow is a sad, sad joke, the sort of thing you'd sell to an ignorant tourist or use in a target range for a child. Pulling it casually with one hand the way he did, with the crossbow raised, means that it has no more power than a child's bow. 30 lb. pull, tops, and thorugh the noticeably shorter length through which the crossbow accelerates the bolt, it's going to have noticeably less energy deposited in the quarrel or the bolt than a bow of similar pull. Frankly, I've got a stronger crossbow in my workshop, an old Sharper Image one-hand crossbow, that I've used on machinery I've given up on. (I shoot cheap wooden dowels with it, with a notch for the string cut in one end and the other end sharpened iwth a pencil sharpener.)
It makes me wonder how they skewed the other tests: the deep red background that the screen displayed, for example, will tend to hide scratches or even the marker that the girl used on it and wiped off.
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No, I'd say you are a perfectly normal user. An uncanny description really.
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I just have fohooCOWtville.myminicity.com (remove herbivore) blocked in my Privoxy setup. It certainly reduces fear of these nasty links.
And, oh yes, if there's a fund setup to catch and kill these bastards, I fully support it.
Or just DDOS ripway.com (or is it h1.ripway.com), I guess.
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I think that you are, somehow, missing the point.
I don't give a damn how strong the crossbow is. He shot it at the monitor and it bounced off
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From the Asus website:
"The unique Light-in-Motion LED lights on the base of the ASUS LS201 create a soothing effect and distinct feel to the atmosphere while in operation. A rational blue light is activated to accompany you while power on, and an orange glow signals that the monitor is in standby mode. It perfectly combines technology with human feelings to look after both functionality and decoration."
Sapphire is actually transparent aluminium ... er, well aluminium oxide anyway.
Just as good for transporting whales I assure you.
I agree with the last part because if you look closely at the slow motion reaction shot of the crossbow hit, you can see dents (light reflection) from where the previous hammer hits and the like took place. And I don't really see the utility of the marker tests; my monitor could stand up to being drawn on with a marker, long as I have some Windex nearby before it dries.
Medieval weaponsmiths were paid to produce stuff that could punch through scale mail. That? It'd be a terrible bruise.
I could shoot out someone's eye with that, but I could do it with a compound bow with a fifteen pound draw.
I could see this as part of an Apple "Toughbook". I'd buy one in a nanosecond.
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I totally agree with your post, except for the general sentiment of it, your implied conclusions, and almost every single point you tried to make.
I guess that means I didn't really agree with you much.
Well, why not take your best crossbows and your superior bows and fire them at your own LCD screens and compare your results? You can use any background color you like.
You may need someone to help you aim, as your vision might not be as good as you think, otherwise you may have noticed some other things in that video. Things like the part where the marker is removed from a part of the screen that was displaying white, not red. Or perhaps the part where the same bolts that were able to disable the screen penetrate a half-inch into a sheet of wood. Or perhaps the part where the screen is struck with a hammer.
According to you, this screen fared poorly as "the deep red background that the screen displayed, for example, will tend to hide scratches". Seriously, try these tests yourself. See if any color except black will hide the scratches on your monitors.
If it's in you sig, it's in your post.
Looks like someone got him, the site is down at 8:40 PM EST
Medieval weaponsmiths were paid to produce stuff that could punch through scale mail. That? It'd be a terrible bruise.
There was no such thing as "scale mail". Scale armor and maille are two different things. Do some more research and try again.
Because the plastic sensor layer on top of the glass won't be protected.
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Huh... so they're making computers crossbow-proof now... I can't help but wonder, are they *TRYING* to make it easier for the robots when they decide to revolt or are people just stupid???
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Resisting a normal arrow from a crossbow is nice and all, but how does it handle a fire arrow from a crassbow+1?
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> That crossbow seemed pretty weak.
Well, duh. Of course it's weak, and feeble. It's the Ukrainian crossbow after all. Still, the monitor was a sitting duck in this case, I'm sure they could really put the hurt on it with a 9mm.
I'll just aim my crossbow for the fleshy part in front of the monitor. problem solved! ;p
They're using their grammar skills there.
After watching the video, I can say that it's quite a nice monitor. All it's missing is a touchscreen.
Can you imagine the manly ora you would put off whilst using the crossbow to click things? I suppose you would need a good supply of arrows, however.
Adapt, adopt, or get out of the way!
Missing the point? I think the arrows are now missing their points.
insert pithy comment here
Is it bullet proof? Only then I'll feel safe enough to play quake. I always feared a bullet missing my character and going right through my monitor!
well when it comes to recycling, these can be used in Iraq as body armors.
That looked a lot like the handmade crossbows fabricated by "Iolo the Bard," a well-known SCA figure in Austin circa 1990 (and inspiration for the character of Iolo in the Ultima games.)
Except that Iolo-the-Ultima-character was around back in 1980. Ultima (the original game - not sure if he appeared in Akalabeth).
Perhaps that inspiration went the other way? Or is your date off?
Scratch sapphire? With sapphire being #9 on the Mohs hardness scale... not going to happen (except with a ruby, another sapphire, or of course a diamond). Maybe silicon carbide if you believe a certain wiki. Incidentally, the "transparent aluminum" tag isn't too far off. Never thought about sapphire during, what was it, ST-4 ?
insert pithy comment here
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Iolo the bard says: "Ho eyo he hum!"
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Ultrahard Fullerite and aggregated diamond nanorods are harder than diamonds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullerite
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...withstand a roundhouse kick?
Is ripway his ISP or something?
You can see that the monitor was dented by the crossbow by looking at the reflections. Still, my monitors would have exit wounds, so it's still pretty impressive.
I see your informative link, and raise you a pithy comment.
Heh, dude's got cojones, at least.
i'd hit it so hard, if you pulled me out you'd be the king of britain [bash.org]
That crossbow was pretty weak. I'm guessing maybe a 50lb pull or so. I had an (also rather weak) 90lb bow that required holding one end with your foot and pulling with both hands. None the less still a pretty impressive material to withstand even a weak crossbow bolt.
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"I'd like to see it hit with a 175lb crossbow!"
Haha, you'd have monitor crumbs.
But good lord! Take your monitor at home, a spoon, and a marble. I'd bet you could use the spoon to catapult your marble towards your monitor and bust it real good. That's one durable monitor!
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It's the same Iolo, proprietor of New World Arbalest.
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I just encountered these for the first time when I started my new job. Every desk in IT had a dual-monitor arm thing. Big ones too. Naturally, I was all like "now this is how business is done!" Turns out that only IT has these beauties. Even the top management has smaller, single, stand-mounted monitors. Or just laptops, sometimes without even a docking station. There's something sad about a desk with just a mouse and a power adapter.
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Well, one of his redirects go to h1.ripTREXway.com/slashdot1000/index.php (remove dinosaur; Please don't go to the link, it redirects directly to his Minicity spam. I can safely go there because I have his minicity explicitly blocked in my Privoxy setup). He posted the direct link to that PHP script once, but I'm too lazy to dig it up again.
From this alone, we can't exactly say anything (he could have hacked someone else's account and put that redirect script there---after all, if he has real access to a website, he would do a real redirect with the HTTP server, or he's just that stupid), but, well, I for one am done giving the benefit of doubt. But perhaps DDOSing Ripway wouldn't do the intended harm. We need to find a server for which he actually pays for bandwidth, not a flat fee.
My first thought is, why didn't the crossbow at least knock the monitor off the table??
Second, what about gun fire? It won't sell here in the US until it can withstand a drive by shooting... hehe
But, can it resist fingerprints from kids eating Cheeto's?
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No kidding. A friend of mine had an LCD ruined by his kid...he shot an Airsoft gun at it. That plastic pellet bounced off too, but it did a number on it. Cracked glass, leakage, etc. He was pretty pissed.
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Transparent Aluminum, well, contaminated aluminum oxide. Close enough.
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No no, this is a fantastically socially responsible idea! I'm excited about it.
Think about it - armed police issuing warnings that they will use capsicum if provoked, or are in "baton mode" or simply want the crowd to "disperse peacefully"...
There is so much violence caused by misunderstanding between police forces and crowds, this would be a wonderful idea!!
Sapphire is the infamous Star Trek 'transparent aluminium', but it comes in many colours, from transparent to blue, pink or red (ruby).
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Hardness isn't everything. You can break a diamond into pieces with a hammer, even if the diamond is harder than the steel. Hardness means basically that you can't scratch a sheet of diamond with a steel bolt.
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It bent the tip of the bolt. What more could you ask for?
Yes, and if you take an old LCD monitor outside and throw a pencil at it it will bounce off too. And since the monitor display was a dark background color and we never saw the screen closely after the various attempts to damage it, we don't really know if it was damaged.
Holding together is one thing: not being scratched up, so that you don't have permanent marks on it, is another and is far more valuable.
At 5 feet, thorugh a television camera? Try it yourself with an old monitor and a webcam. You have to get the camera up extremely close to see the damage, but your eye notices it quite well. And scratches accumulate.
Even my hand bow would probably have knocked the monitor off the table. I'd guess it would have at least twice the energy. Withstanding the sharp tips of those bolts is good, but given the obvious chicanery of using such a pitiful bow and the obvious pulling of the hammer blows, the demonstration is pretty obviously cooked.
Withstanding abuse is fine. But if you're going to marvel at "withstanding a crossbow", use a real crossbow.
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Hardness (Mohs) is NOT everything -- I agree. But the demonstration with the hammer (in a way) answers the question of breaking diamonds with hammers. Although, if you notice, the screen is struck with the hammer in the center where the surface will have the greatest ability to flex. I wonder if the same result would be seen if the hammer struck a side or a corner. Depending on how tightly mounted the "glass" was, this may prove too much for this material and it may snap, crack, or chip. Nevertheless, this is certainly a durable interface. Pretty neat.
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Can it handle flying chairs ?
SCA crossbows (at least here in Lochac) are designed not to hurt. They're pretty gentle things. I know this because I wrote the proposal to get the Victorian group on the police registry of legal sports users back when I was on the OziBoD. Did the research, documented our modern application and we restricted use to equivalent of a 30 pound draw longbow. With an SCA rubber blunted bolt instead of the um, somewhat malleable bolts shown by our Ukranian friends you might raise a bruise in re-enactment combat, just. No real physical damage to the armoured loons on the field.
I suspect a proper 250 lb prod crossbow with a period broadhead bolt would do serious damage to whatever was on the other side of that display.
Impressed with the display, though -- the hammer example was really cool.
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The point is that if they actually wanted to test its destroyability (as opposed to the likelihood of it being damaged in your office - a more a useful, but less fun test) then they should have used a more powerful crossbow and some kind of firearm; a crossbow you can just pull back like that isn't going to be a good test of destroyability although its enough to show that it's one tough screen.
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Welcome to TechnoDay. Is your monitor possessed? How can you tell and if so what can you do about it?
We took a standard LCD monitor that had become possessed after an all night LAN-party playing oblivion. (some discussion about exorcism I could not make out)
We tried writing (the exorcism?) on the screen in permanent marker. But the state of demonic possession prevented the ink from sticking, it just wiped off with a small amount of holy water.
We tried smashing the monitor with a hammer.
Research on Wikipedia told us that the only way to undo the demonic possession was with a silver tipped arrow. Fortunately I was able to win a crossbow on EBay, but the arrows supplied are steel, not silver.
You can see the power of the crossbow shooting into wood. Now lets try against the monitor. One! Two!
As you can see Wikipedia was right, if you are faced with demonic possession you have to go with the silver, steel simply does not work. We will try that next week.
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Here is a real review of the display http://crave.cnet.co.uk/monitors/0,39029456,49290999,00.htm Not quite so impressive...
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Scratched, maybe. But it DID NOT CRACK. That would have been plainly obvious. Scratches are annoying on an LCD but generally leave fully usable. Cracks mean it's going in the garbage heap (and you're going to the store to buy a new one).
Even a wimpy crossbow and soft lead bolt will deliver enormous pressure at the tip of the bolt on impact.
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People are not dragging canned goods across their iPhones for 7 years at a time. The iPhone screen is glass, and properly tempered glass is harder than most metals, certainly most metals likely to be in people's pockets. I have one of the original iPod Minis, which had glass screens. Since I bought it I've kept it in my messenger bag pocket with my keys, pens, loose change, Leatherman Micro, etc. Over the past several years of this abuse the aluminum has picked up a number of scratches, but the screen has only picked up one tiny scratch in one corner. It has absolutely zero effect on the visibility of the screen.
The iPhone is a 2.5G mobile device with a soldered-in battery, that is sold on a 2-year contract. Plus it is expensive and most people will try to take care of it. Thus the screen only really needs to resist scratching from occassional light contact, for 2 years. Glass is plenty hard for that application.
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I was about to comment on how they used a rather wimpy (to today's standards) 14th Century crossbow. Of course, in the Ukraine that may be all they have. I think a modern Commando 2 similar to the one I used as a youngster would probably penetrate that thing. We used to shoot bolts through hefty Northern Virginia phone books. The whole bolt wouldn't go through, but the head would usually get all the way through. Sounds like a Mythbusters project.
yea same thought here.. i know what goatse and tubgirl are but lemonparty? sorry but considering that it is associated with the first two.. really not intrested in looking it up.. *shutter*
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Folks. Beware, no doubt both the packaging and the vista cds will be made from this new material...
Why UNIX?
At last, we can code a realistic version of Wac-A-Mole and use real hammers.
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When the fluorescent tube in these monstrosities burn out and start showing up in Landfills? While it may be a keen sort of toy to play with this is not exactly the most environmentally friendly unit I've ever seen...
Maybe the same stuff the HAMMER was made of? Maybe not.
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Iolo is still around and making crossbows via his website, New World Arbalest - http://www.crossbows.net/.
I have a #4 (Flemish design, 15-16th century) with a 75lb prod. Great fun for target archery!
I'm unsure if he's still active in the SCA, however.
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His dates are off. Iolo the game character was indeed based off Iolo the SCA member who was a real life friend of Lord British, the author of the Ultima games.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iolo
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It is hard to gauge the crossbow bolt's energy and velocity from just the video. It is strange that tip of point was bent in such manner also I never seen that type of point before (I only seen the stuff if the US only). However that does appear to be an "weak" crossbow and it is pity they didn't have a ballistic meter to measure the energy and velocity of the bolt. Also the point of the bolt also affects the performance of penetration of the bolt. If you had a sharp broadhead hunting point it will most likely penetrated that monitor, depending on the power of the crossbow. Nevertheless that any monitor that take any type of abuse (weak crossbow, hammer and other abuse) is definitely nice.
Perhaps that inspiration went the other way? Or is your date off?
Nope; that's the original "Iolo." He's been making crossbows since the early 80s at least, but I didn't meet him until 1987-1988. Good to see he's still in business (going by the link in the other post.)
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