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A Mythbuster's Biggest Tech Headaches (and Solutions)
An anonymous reader writes "The Mythbusters' Jamie Hyneman shares his top tech annoyances. Hyneman runs down the little things that bug him about everything from tools (exotic chargers) to cars (useless features). He also notes that there's a lot of room for improvement on PC desktops: 'In addition to being buggy ... extra features tend to bog down your system by demanding more processing power and memory. Computer-makers: Don't load up operating systems with features and then make us sweat to figure out how to get rid of the fat ... There's another solution available to consumers: Switch to a Linux-based OS such as Ubuntu. Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.'"
But it seems like this is just a fairly famous person telling us what we already know. Nothing new or insightful here IMHO.
..share it on his TV show, where it might have mattered. Posting it here is just preaching to the choir, so to speak.
Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.
But Mandriva have never let a little thing like that stand in their way.
I though for sure his top tech annoyance would have been Adam Savage. :-)
How about web articles that have more words than ads. Come on. This paragraph-at-a-time stuff is more annoying than even Vista.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
...and Adam seems to like Apple, who gets Microsoft?
My guess is Buster.
Of course, when he does get hurt, it looks more painful than Adam's frequent miscues. That shot he gave himself when cutting the line to his handheld grappling hook winch was rough...it almost ranks up there with Adam putting his lips in the vacuum motor.
All my phones in recent years use a USB port to charge. My new iMate Ultimate 6150 does, my previous HTC Trinity did, my wife's Motorola phones do. I won't buy a phone without a USB port to charge with. We carry around a small AA charger that has a USB port on it to charge devices on the go, it works great for long flights or any sort of travel away from a USB port.
In my car I tossed the 12V "cigarette lighter" from the dash to the truck. I also increased its power from a small 5A fuse to a 10A fuse, so I can run a reasonably sized 120V inverter (also in the trunk) to power a few devices on-the-go.
In the place of the dash 12V adapter, I installed a nice custom panel with 3 USB ports. They're high power ports, so I can charge a phone, a GPS receiver, and a plethora of other devices that use USB to charge. In the future I'd like to connect one port to a radio so I can play music on-the-go without my iPod.
In the past, I've had relatively complicated small PCs to run my music system, but I'm seeing more and more options for in-vehicle PCs running Linux. Eventually I think we'll see a system that works well and is cheap. Since we only buy used cars, tossing the radio is one of the first things we do, and it's at most a loss of maybe $25 worth of electronics.
There are many things I wish were modernized, standardized, and more open. First, vehicle information is very proprietary. Why is it that cars can't report status information via a simple USB connection? All the information is either there, or could be generated VERY cheaply. I ran out of wiper fluid two days ago (lots of snow in Chicago lately), and I sat there thinking how lame it is that the wiper fluid reservoir doesn't have a simple sensor to detect low fluid (it's a 2001 vehicle, not THAT old). Even that could be transported across a USB chain with regular updates. Heck, a $2 sensor could even sense fluid at 3 levels. Simple enough.
At home, we have a DC run throughout the house wherever we upgraded our power, and I'm seriously thinking of changing it to USB charging. AC in the home is useful, but so many devices use DC (and the dreaded overheating wall-warts!) that I'm shocked that more devices aren't standardizing on DC. 18V, 5A+, not a big deal -- but so many devices could use it (charging tools, video games, cell phones, even some computer monitors). Simple, without needed ANOTHER heat-generating and wasting transformer. My laptop is DC, too, yet I need the darned transformer throughout the house.
But I still see more and more devices standardizing in many ways. Over time, manufacturers are seeing that power is a commodity, not a profit maker. I tell my friends and family to stop buying products that use proprietary charging hardware. With tools, the battery situation is frustrating, but I think we'll see some changes there. I like the idea of having a standard 6V pack, and just adding more if you need 12V or 18V. Even better would be a "serial/parallel" switch so you could go from 6V 1A to 6V 2A or 12V 1A with the flip of a switch. Ahh, to dream.
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This is to be expected, it can be difficult to stretch a value of zero across ten fingers.
The reason is that they get paid to install crap software on your computer!
Remember when the promise of cable TV was that you wouldn't have to watch commercials because you were already paying for TV? That didn't last long... the promise was broken and now you pay for TV service *AND* you have to watch commercials.
You pay for magazines and news papers and with the exception of consumer reports (at least that was the case in the past) you get commercial ads in there too!
It seems no business can resist the temptation to sell their customer's eyes to advertisers and other parties. It's a very bad business practice and one that eats at the trust that customers have with their vendors and service providers. But it's so common place these days that to do otherwise would be an exception rather than the rule. It's not an excuse for bad behavior, it's just a fact.
Dell does a lot less of that than others and you can certainly request that anything be loaded or not loaded as well. But the average consumer doesn't know this and so they are victimized by having their computers compromised right out of the box.
But there is a business reason for the extra crap-ware to be installed... they get money when they do it.
Not specifically a tech issue, but affects numerous tech products as well.
What really drives me nuts is non standard screws intended to prevent you from opening your device.
(Unless of course you have the special magic screw driver.)
I really hate these. I love opening things, to fix them or just for the fun of seeing how they're made.
I bought it, it belongs to me, don't prevent me from trying to have a look inside if I want to.
...because we're on Slashdot. We all know what Jamie is saying is true.
But he's near-famous. He has a show that millions of people watch. And he's saying that Vista blows, and why it blows, and that Ubuntu kicks its ass.
And he's saying it in Popular Mechanics. You see those everywhere. My barber has a rack of them by his waiting bench. So does my doctor. You see PM magazines all over a doctor's waiting area.
It's called getting the word out.
A lot of us here on /. complain about how Joe Sixpack has no clue about computer issues. Well - now Joe Sixpack has an opportunity to be sitting in a dentist's office, and see a PM magazine with Jamie on the cover and think "Hey cool - think I'll read that. That's the show where they blow stuff up. It'll be interesting to hear what he has to say."
And suddenly he's exposed to the problems with Vista, and the joys of Ubuntu by a person he respects and likes. Maybe he'll call up his geeky cousin later on in the day on Jamie's recommendation and ask him what this Ubuntu thingy is.
This is how mindshare happens. A war is a million little battles, and we just won one.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Not only do you get locked in automatically, but the other weird thing that they did was the "only unlock the driver door" feature. Now I always have to hit the button 3 times to make sure I have unlocked the tailgate. Once should open all of the doors by default. If I want the new, magic driver-door-only feature it should be a configuration option someplace.
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I liked his Idea of tools using 6V battery packs. I got several tools out in the shop, a few 18V, a few 12V, one or two 7.2v, etc. Even the 3 18V tools have different battery packs, with different chargers. A huge portion of the back of my workbench (near the wall) is nothing but chargers. I would love to have a standardized version of the battery packs.
Half the time, I don't even need the power of the 18V drill, I just need a bit of Juice to turn a bunch of screws. Wouldn't it be slick to pop in 3 6v Batteries, and be able to toggle a switch to choose between connecting them in serial or parallel? IE, more power, or longer lasting battery?
What are we going to do tonight Brain?
Most of these annoyances are very deliberate. HDMI is intended to be non-interoperable and failure-prone. OEM Windows preloads contain extra bloatware because bloatware makers paid to have their crap installed. Tools use nonstandard battery packs, in order to sell proprietary replacement packs.
These aren't engineering failures. They are just examples of products that are made to serve interests other than the user's.
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Kari is pretty much average.
;)
Granted, she's not Catherine Deneuve, but hot body+cute face+understanding of physics and engineering is not average, not by a long shot. Either you spend too much time in your basement or you're banging Playboy models on a regular basis.
I'll leave it up to the reader to decide which is the most likely scenario
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
I hope you upgraded the wiring. I have scars (well, one) from a wire that was undersized for the load. It started to melt. Across the fuel line...
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I can only imagine what that'd bring on eBay.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Actually, I'm somewhat surprised Jamie mentioned Linux. I have noticed in some (past) shows they show a computer screen in a few camera shots and I recognized AOL. AOL is rarely the choice of the computer literate. Since Mythbusters seems to avoid product placements, I believe the fact I could spot AOL was more an accident than intentional. Haven't seen it lately though.
Still, going from the choice of the not computer literate to talking about Linux as a desktop OS, in a non-computer tech magazine...that's a sign of progress. Is that another crack I hear forming in MS's empire?
Because it ships as non-bloated, and you have to add the bloat yourself, mostly.
I have to say that I've been fairly impressed with Ubuntu thus far. It seems fairly stable and reliable, and the little update widget is remarkably painless, and has only insisted on a reboot a couple of times (for things like kernel changes). Add to that the ability to get software to do just about everything I want to do with either apt-get, synaptic, or that add/remove programs thingy, and there's no more dependency hell. I wouldn't call myself a 'fanboy' exactly...but I -am- fond of it.
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Since most Linux OSs are free, there's no business reason to bloat up the system with feature frills.'"
Since most Linux OSes are free, there's no business reason for them to deliver features people want (and hence are prepared to pay for).
As an avid fan (I've seen all the episodes up until the last season back-to-back once upon a time) they seem to use the tool necessary for the job. Yes, I've seen Windows desktops surfing AOL (with their research staff) but I've also seen PowerBooks.
Apparently Jamie got some time between the last season and now to test out that Ubuntu thingy and he really likes it. I'm a Linux/Mac-sysadmin, I don't necessarily like Ubuntu for myself (too dumbed down) but my parents currently run it on their desk- and laptop and they have stopped calling me every week about something that went wrong with their computer. I run Fedora Core here at work simply because it gets the job done (RPM's for specific scientific stuff), I am running all-Mac (2 PowerBook) at home now but I would use Gentoo (desktop). Slackware (other desktop) or Debian (router/server) if I had non-Mac computers.
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In my car I tossed the 12V "cigarette lighter" from the dash to the truck. I also increased its power from a small 5A fuse to a 10A fuse, so I can run a reasonably sized 120V inverter (also in the trunk) to power a few devices on-the-go.
.00297 ohms / foot". Doing the math, a 100 foot 14 gauge extension cord is 200 feet of wire with a resistance of .00297 ohms per foot. 0.00297 X 200 = 0.594 ohms. To get 100 Watts at the far end of the wire at 12 volts, you need to deliver 8 and 1/3 amps. That amprage going on that almost .6 ohm wire will have a voltage loss of 0.594 X 8.3333 or 4.9499 volts. To get 12 volts out, you need to put in 12 + 4.9499 volts. Volts X Amps in the wire is the power lost.. Let's see, lost 4.94 volts along 200 feet while carying 8.3333 amps. That's 41 Watts. In short to drive a 100 watt load, you toss out almost 1/3rd of your power in the wire.
Drawing twice the power than the wire was fused for is a good way to need another car soon. Unless you also upgraded the wire, I wouldn't recommend changing the fuse size.
I have a reasonably sized inverter in my trunk also, next to the battery. 1KW will power most anything except hair dryers you care to bring along.
At home, we have a DC run throughout the house wherever we upgraded our power,
This is not a good idea. Volts X Amps = Watts in DC circuits. To run a 100 watt laptop cross the house on 12 volts with less than 10% voltage drop requires a huge wire. Do the math.
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Don't forget a 50 foot cord is a 100 foot DC path.
To cut your loss in the wire by 100 as in a 10$ loss is now a 0.1% loss, go from 12 volts to 120 volts. That is the simple reason for the big inverter in the trunk. I can run a 100 foot 14 AWG extension cord and have less than 1% voltage drop in the cord to a 100 Watt laptop.
From the page "14AWG =
Now using the same cord and laptop but now using 120 volts. Instead of needing 8.3333 amps for the 100 watts, we now need 1/10 of that or 0.8333 amps. Our voltage loss is now 1/10th what it was or 0.49499 volts at 1/10th the current. We now lose 1/100th the power in the wire we were before while still delivering 100 watts to the laptop. Now the wire has a loss of 0.41 Watts. I don't need to boost anything to make up for it.
I'm shocked that more devices aren't standardizing on DC. 18V, 5A+, not a big deal -- but so many devices could use it (charging tools, video games, cell phones, even some computer monitors). Simple, without needed ANOTHER heat-generating and wasting transformer. My laptop is DC, too, yet I need the darned transformer throughout the house.
Do the math and you won't be shocked at all. I would rather lose 5 watts in a laptop power supply than 40 watts in the 50 foot wire from the battery fuse box to the laptop.
I've standardized on 120 VAC for almost everything. As a bonus, I don't have to buy special 12 volt CF bulbs at $15 each. I can use the buck a bulb ones instead. It's all about saving money. A 1 KW inverter is chaep and can be located very close to the battery to keep loss minimum in the low voltage wire.
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Could just be marketing between Discovery/AOL or whatever. If you're going to show some software/hardware why not get someone to pay you advertising fees for it? Could be, might not be. Someone braver than me could trek into MySpace land and post the question.
Just purchased a 2001 Subaru Forester.
1. I can change the plugs, wires, ignition module, fuses, relays, sensors, alternator...and other various devices and gadgets. Because they are on top of the engine compartment, or placed within easy reach behind the dash.
2. I can open the hood, and actually see the ground by looking on either side (you would have to remove the skid protector on the front, but if you did you could see the ground). Plenty of room.
3. I can change the oil myself because the oil filter is conveniently located in the front of the engine within arms reach.
4. I can do most of the vehicle maintenance and repairs with 4 tools or less. (10-12mm sockets, #2 Phillips screwdriver, and a can of WD-40)
I test drove many newer Subaru's before this one and noticed that not many changes have been made to this design. All the same...2.5L H4 Boxer engine (turbo chargers may add some extra fiddling due to the extra goodies on the intakes).
-Fuel efficient
-Tough mechanics
-Plenty of gadgets (heated seats, thermometers, barometers, altimeters, levels, CD changers, cabin air filters) All of these things can be easily done by the consumer if they RTFM and know how to turn a screwdriver.
-Stick with what works
Subaru's are designed this way for easy repairs (because you may not be near your local Subaru dealer when you take the vehicle to the places it is designed to go).
Mr. Hyneman's point is that engineers are neglectful of the needs of their consumers. Subaru has done an excellent job at "keeping it real" on the issue of End User maintenance.
Consumers need to do much more research when it comes to their vehicle purchases.
I just want to know what fool let Adam get a Segway. That can't be good for anyone near by....
1. Cordless tools and equipment--all with different kinds of battery packs and chargers.
2. Flashlights and other small electrical devices that run on exotic batteries.
3. Cellphones that all come with different chargers and power-supply units.
4. AV equipment that has different types of hookups and remote-control protocols.
And his other three points are all about bloat and poor design choices:
5. Computer operating systems loaded with stuff I don't want and will never use.
6. Automobiles with obnoxious electronics.
7. Cars designed to make it tough to do maintenance.
Overall he makes some pretty good points.
In response to his first three complaints, I don't think companies will ever give up their non-standard battery packs... they make too much money on replacement batteries.
As for complaint #4, I thought AV equipment was pretty well standardized already. All of my TV and AV equipment accept the same types of audio cables. I'd agree with his point about remotes though. I've never owned a "universal remote" that "just worked".
In complaint #5, Jamie is mainly complaining about the bloat in Windows (more specifically Vista). I think the problem is that Operating Systems like Windows have to be designed with a wide user base in mind, so they have to have features that only 10% of the users would use. It would be nice if Microsoft actually made a modular OS where I could uninstall everything that I don't use (Outlook and IE for example). I have to give Jamie props for advocating Linux in the article.
Here's a quote from complaint #5 which I totally agree with:
His main complaint in #6 is that he doesn't like cars that beep at him to buckle his seatbelt and he doesn't like cars that auto-lock the doors. Personally, I don't mind these features, but I can understand why someone might find them annoying. As for all the other electronics going in cars nowadays, I don't mind them. If you've ever driven in a BMW, you'd probably fall in love with all of the electronics. Whenever I drive in my toyota, I'm constantly adjusting the temperature as it's always fluctuating between too hot or too cold (I can never seem to find that comfort zone). But in a Beamer, I can set the temperature to 22C and forget about it. Some electronics I can live without, like those onboard navigation screens, but others I tend to enjoy.
And finally, complaint #7 is all about poor design choices (in cars). Here's his example of a bad design: "One late-model sedan I worked on required the removal of a front wheel, plus a bunch of other stuff, just to replace the battery". I'm not a mechanic, and I have little to no experience under the hood, but are a lot of cars really designed this poorly? I can't think of any car where I actually had to remove a tire just to change the battery (Does anyone know what car Jamie was talking about?).
Honestly, what did Buster ever do to you? Leave him out of this.
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This whole thread is stupid. Jessica Alba is hot. Jessica Beil is hot. Scarlett Johansson is hot. Elisha Cuthbert is hot. If you want to go to mainstream TV, Evangeline Lilly from Lost is hot. Jennifer Morrison and Olivia Wilde from House are very hot. Olivia Munn from AOTS is very hot. If you want to go to the hot with a brain as well, then look no further than Kim Jagtiani (http://www.discoverychannel.ca/shows/castdetails.aspx?cid=3018&sid=5). Kerri is just average - period. Just because she is a female host on a show you happen to watch often does not make her "hot". She is intelligent yes, but quite average looking.
I can't believe someone would actually be upset over winning a foothold in the desktop market, when that's what we've been trying to do for over a decade.
Whose side are you on, really?
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Personally, I decided to forgo BIOS's and OS's altogether and just work directly in Assembly.
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His chief complaints are:
1. Electric mustache trimmers far more newfangled than the reliable steam-powered models.
2. Local beret dealer insists on selling them in outlandish, inefficient colors such as "blue" and "red" instead of the more streamlined "black" model.
3. Technological advances in promulgating human rights laws make it no longer possible to keep hyperactive co-host safely chained to a radiator in the basement between tapings.
My apologies, but ATi has given the linux community (up until late last year) NO support to produce free drivers for them, and the drivers they put out at that time, while existant, may as well have not been built. Those cards (I have one sitting on a shelf) are just no-go under Ubuntu. nVidia vs ATi is a great example of what open specs, cooperation, and transparency get you. nVidia provided decent binary drivers (they had their issues at times) and has worked with the community to develop an open source driver.
ATi, however, crapped out drivers that don't work for years. Unfortunately, the answer is that you're SOL. I battled with a 9800 all in wonder pro for close to a month under gentoo then ubuntu before I just dropped back and made that machine into a server. So yes, the answer if you would like to use your machine with Ubuntu is to get a better video card. Sorry you had it put to you so rudely before, but that's what open development on one side and closed on the other gets you: winners and losers. If only they were all open.
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Hmm, surely there's been at least one useful post and one accurate summary before.
Therefore, I mod this +1, Plausible.
Sure, I'll buy that.
I'll let you say that it's not Ubuntu's fault that it doesn't support the 2nd-largest video card family. If that's how Ubuntu people debug, no fucking wonder it's flawed. ("It can't be MY system that's flawed, since I'm so brillant!") It's surely not the fact that the drivers become unstable after every kernel update. Perhaps there's a sense of ongoing defeatism at ATI because the API on the *nix kernels changes every release. "Fuck it, the driver will only be good for a month, so don't bother QA with it."
So I'll buy that part. Clearly, AMD and ATI (companies I've hardly heard of) are a great deal more amateur than the hundreds of volunteers who work on Ubuntu.
But what excuse is there for passing the resolution test then crashing the PC when you click "ok"?
As for you, you seem to be a nVidia fanboy. My Radeon worked flawlessly under Win2000 and took me less than five minutes to install correctly. Under Ubuntu, a WEEK LATER, someone tells me that it's ATI's fault.
Awesome, guys. Awesome.
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Bad link on that one... try this, and try not to cringe.
Less is more.
I disagree. And I pine for the Firefly that could have been.
Check her out for her last 10 seconds on-screen in Serenity. For a season of episodes and 99% of the movie, she was a tortured, often dysfunctional character because of what was in her head. At the end of the movie, though, she had fulfilled her destiny (well, at least the short-term one) and all her demons were excised from her. She was now free to be the genius little girl we had seen in flashbacks, only all grown up. Just her expressions and the way she launched that ship let you know this was now someone reaching for the full flower of her existence.
And her brother was getting laid.
And tragedy had left another potential couple in the offing.
Hell, man, if there were another season of Firefly, *all* the characters would have been very different and I think Summer Glau would have done wonderful things with River. She gave us such a tantalizing glimpse.
We'll never know for sure, I guess. Phooey, phooey, phooey!
Drop some weight?? What? Did she gain a lot of weight lately and I just haven't seen recent episodes? Because I don't think I've ever seen her and thought "wow, if only she'd lose a few pounds." Or are you one of those guys that has to be able to count the ribs on a girl before she's considered hot? Ick.
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