Smart Rubber Promises Self-Mending Products
An anonymous reader writes "French scientists have developed a new rubber that can heal itself after being cut or broken. If two broken ends of the material are pushed together, and left for an hour, they join to become just as stretchy as before. There is even a video of the supposed creation in action. 'Regular rubber gets its strength from the fact that long chains of polymer molecules are coupled, or "crosslinked," in three different ways: through covalent, ionic, and hydrogen bonding between molecules. Of these three bond types, only the hydrogen bonds can be remade once a material is fractured, although normally there are not enough hydrogen bonds for the rubber to re-couple in this way. The solution devised by Leibler and colleagues is to simply get rid of the ionic and covalent bonds. They developed a transparent, yellowy-brown rubber in which crosslinking is performed only by hydrogen bonds.'"
Wouldn't removing the other two types of bonds make it naturally more likely to break to begin with? My chem background isnt great, maybe someone could break it down for me.
I can finally join the green revolution by reusing all those busted condoms from my over zealous love making sessions.
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask where they're goin' and hook up with 'em later.
I can't wait an hour when my rubber breaks :(
I fear a race of rubber killing machines, impervious to all our military resources due to their T-1000-like ability to split and remeld.
Yeah, and Smart Rubber also promised it'd return my Criminal Minds Season 2 DVDs and stop eating all the Grape Nuts. And we know how well THAT panned out...
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I will try them.
You will see.
because if you watch the video they double the speed of the post-healing stretch, and it's still _really_ slow. With only the video to go on, it seems like this could just as easily be some silly putty or elmers glue + liquid starch.
Of course, if it's true that you can create self-healing rubber by removing the ionic and covalent bonds, leaving only the hydrogen bonds, my next question is obvious:
How many times can this material "heal" itself before suffering internal structure deficiencies?
If it could mend itself an infinite number of times and retain perfect structural integrity, that would truly be a modern miracle of science with untold practical applications.
Can you say self-mending tires, shoe soles, etc?
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It isn't just the number of bonds but the strength of those bonds.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
...because recently, for a school project, I needed to find some print sources of chemistry in the news. All I had on-hand was an issue of Popular Science, and it had an article on this invention. The catch? The issue was from 2001.
Millions of RealDoll owners rejoice.
Now, in the middle of intercourse if your condom tears, your still safe. YOUR CONDOM IS FIXING ITSELF!!!
First off, what good is it if I have to stop stretching the rubber for an hour to push the broken ends together? If I've already lost my wood, either the damage has already been done, or there's not much point in continuing.
Second, this thread is JUST FINE without video.
Thirdly, thank God I'm a Slashdotter who'll never have to worry about point #1 or #2, and will therefore never benefit from this technology, but much like the talking frog, the materials science is pretty cool!
(Talking frog? Yeah. As in, once upon a time, an engineer was walking along a road and spied a frog. The frog said "I'm actually a beautiful princess! Kiss me and I'll make it up to you by having sex with you every night, in any position you want, for the rest of my life!" The engineer put the frog in his pocket and walked on. "I don't have time for all that sex. But a talking frog is pretty cool!")
You've been misinformed. You don't need a condom for masturbation.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Cindy, my air-filled life companion, will be relieved to hear of this development.
We have been plagued by punctures and tears for years. Neither of us have been satisfied with the make-do fix of duct tape and latex.
Thank you, science!
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This time so-called "scientific progress" has gone too far. This shameless disregard for ionic and covalent bonds is unnatural and degrading to us all. Ionic and covalent bonds play a crucial role in vital processes of nature. They are found everywhere, from humble table salt, to the very carbon rings that are the basis of all life.
And now arrogant man sees fit to sacrifice these noble bonds for what, I ask? For a "self-healing rubber" of all things? This is a travesty. I hope all people who love and cherish our universe and the laws of nature will boycott this abominable substance.
Carbon-carbon bonds are highly covalent and exceptionally strong. Ionic bonds are weaker and hydrogen bonds are weaker still. So, yes, necessarily this rubber is weaker. It's not the fact that it has less variety of bonding, it's the fact the sort of bonding it's left with is weak (comparatively).
Five years ago, a team of scientists working at Uranus discovered a new polyester...
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I think the remark was more about the fact that hydrogen bonds are weaker than the other types mentioned.
Please tell me there's some way to incorporate this material into roadways that don't develop potholes. I'm tired of paying for them--in wear and tear on my car and in taxes.
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Bond, Hydrogen Bond.
"The material is synthesised from fatty acids and urea"
You only need lots of beer and hamburgers to produce this rubber.
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So many condom jokes, so little actual sex...
It takes care of parallel porking automatically!
I, for one, welcome our new promising, smart and self-mending rubber overlords.
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So, you could -- technically speaking -- create an everlasting condom? This would be good news for the Slashdot crowd, because those condoms you've kept in your wallet for five years -- in case you got lucky with that girl who works at Radioshack -- they've expired. Much like your chances.
The CAPTCHA for this post? "Mishap", it's what happens when you finally break out one those things.
haha. at the risk of lowering the tone they could finally do away with all those zips!
btw. if you don't know what a gimp suit is I strongly suggest you don't do a google image search on them for the sake on yer eyeballs.
If you made a bag of this it would stick to itself on the inside. You would need to make a multi-layered bag with a film of some other non-self-healing substance on the inside and probably on the outside as well. That would, of course, limit the number of times it could heal because eventually the separating film would fail and your bacg would end up like a lump of silly-putty.
isnt this called silly putty
We should in no way follow their example. Conservative American radio talkshows tell me so.
They've had this tech in New Mexico since 1947.
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Then
-- use TWO condoms,
-- use 3x the spermicide,
-- make her wear wear an IUD, and cap it with half a jar of Vaseline or 5 Tbsp Crisco plus 3 spoonsful of tumeric, cumin, witch hazel, and durian or papaya
If THAT fails, then stuff it all into YOURself...
Cuz when she finds out what you're up to, you'll be in Richard Pryor's role in "Which Way is Up" (cuffed to the bed with a slick vibrator headed your way...)
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I had self-healing rubber as a kid. Remember Stretch Armstrong? The book that came with it said, "If Stretch Armstrong ever gets cut or scratched, put a band-aid on it and wait overnight!"
In disbelief, I cut into Stretch's arm. "Goop" came out, so I put a band-aid on it. Sure enough, the next morning it was healed.
What was ol' Stretch made of, anyway? Silicone?
Finally, we will all have tires that are invincible! This will be especially useful for road bike tires, which get sliced up rather easily compared to automobile tires...
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I don't care about your healing rubber. What about some news on a flying car? Or a self-repairing car? Or maybe some news about a car that changes color. That'd be nice, a car that changes color. I'm an American, and this is America goddammit, and we're at war. I want to hear something about cars.
You would need to put some sort of skin over this to keep it from self-reparing in ways it wasn't meant to. If you accidently fold a sheet of this stuff it would adhere to itself. And you though trying to work with plastic wrap without getting it all stuck together was hard.
I bet it would be fun to sculpt with. Cut bits off, stick them back in in other places.. would be a really strange medium to work in.
Or the ultimate version of those pads to stick your cell phone to your dashboard. Except now it will NEVER come off until you slice it off with a razor.
I saw a documentary a few years ago about this. I think Robin Williams hosted it. I'm surprised nobody is talking about the amazing anti-gravity properties it has..... Finally, no more "I want my flying car!" memes....
This would be a great fit for my son's bicycle tires and his bouncy balls that we keep buying him. I can't think of many other applications, but I'm sure they are out there. This looks like it has solid potential.
I know you are joking but just to be clear, using oil based lubricants and/or using multiple condoms will increase the risk of condoms breaking during sex.
I'm curious if the material material still works in wet or humid conditions. Since water forms a strong hydrogen bond, I'm wondering if having H2O present in the interface of two pieces will "cap" the polymer's bonds and slow or disrupt the self-repair.
In addition, I'm also wondering how permeable the material is to water or water vapor, and if there is any swelling when exposed.
... is mind-boggling.
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I've certainly had my share of "box lunch at the Y", but never with so many side dishes and condiments!
How long before I get to see it stretched over a porn star?
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Well this dooms the "One Condom per Adult" charity in AIDS torn countries.
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Self fusing rubber compounds are nothing new. Arlon's Silicone Technologies Division http://www.arlon-std.com/ has been extruding self fusing (healing if you prefer) tapes http://www.arlon-std.com/Products/tape.htm made from silicone rubber for a long time. Other companies do as well. The tapes are primarily used for electrical insulation applications. They are fully crosslinked but when brought into contact they fuse (or heal) into a homogeneous mass. EPDM varieties are available as well. These researches have taken a different approach. Perhaps good, perhaps not. By removing the chemical crosslinks and opting for only hydrogen bonding the material is going to be inferior in many ways; tensile strength, elongation, durometer, abrasion resistance, creep resistance, etc.
watch out for it in your local toy stores.
It appears to be vulcanizing rubber. I have a roll that I nicked from my father in my toolbox. He bought the roll sometime in the '90s. There appears to be nothing new about this.
(Sorry for replying to the first post. Difficult to call bullshit if one isn't heard though.)
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Helecopter Pilot: Here he comes...they're tossing down the stop sticks...DIRECT HIT! No...wait...oh--that car he stole comes with self-mending tires; they'll have to find another way to take him out....
If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
Looks like gummy worms to me, I coulda made them same video with those.
Now I know: it only takes one slashdotter to take the fun out of sex.
Does this mean that the T-1000 will be made of rubber, not liquid metal?
Can someone explain to me how this substance is different in practice from high-voltage electrical tape? The HV tape is 'self-amalgamating,' that is, when you wrap it over itself, it bonds to itself- you can use it in place of heat-shrink tubing in some applications, and it's good to 69 kV.
plymouth-bishop "3 Bi-Seal" polyethylene high voltage tape, p/n 8051 if you're interested. I use it at work sometimes.
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Who... I hope that's not the kind found in Kandahar... Wait... You meant "Integrated Drive Erectronics"?
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That's why you start out with TWO condoms... butt, I guess that diminishes the sensitivity/eruption/fun part...
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So you're from the Caribbean too then?
Umm. That video just looked like they were playing with a string of the synthetic snot that holds the advert cards inside magazines.
I wish I could be famous for claiming to invent something that got sent to me in the mail.
You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
It greatly diminishes the effectiveness of the condom as well, increasing the risk of splitting.
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