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Researchers Develop Self-Cleaning Clothes

Ponca City, We Love You writes "Researchers at Monash University, in Australia, have found a process to coat natural fibers such as wool, silk, and hemp that will automatically remove food, grime, and even red-wine stains by coating their fibers with titanium dioxide nanocrystals, which break down food and dirt in sunlight. Titanium dioxide is a strong photocatalyst and in the presence of ultraviolet light and water vapor, it forms hydroxyl radicals, which oxidize, or decompose, organic matter. "These nanocrystals cannot decompose wool and are harmless to skin," says organic chemist and nanomaterials researcher Walid Daoud. Titanium dioxide can also destroy pathogens such as bacteria in the presence of sunlight by breaking down the cell walls of the microorganisms making self-cleaning fabrics especially useful in hospitals and other medical settings."

220 comments

  1. Sunlight? by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sunlight?

    This is some new kind of LED, right?

    "...natural fibers such as wool, silk, and hemp..." So what if I'm sitting real close to someone who is wearing spandex or nylon or some other artificial fabric? Does it eat through those?

    1. Re:Sunlight? by lobiusmoop · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's the light bulb in the big blue room.

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    2. Re:Sunlight? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

      "...natural fibers such as wool, silk, and hemp..." So what if I'm sitting real close to someone who is wearing spandex or nylon or some other artificial fabric? Does it eat through those?


      Interesting ramifications if you went to the beach to get some sun in the presence of a woman wearing a bathing suit.

      I think we may need to get a grant to see if this chemical can cause the spontaneous decay of women's swim wear in public. :-P The practical applications of that technology would be staggering.

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    3. Re:Sunlight? by evilklown · · Score: 0

      I'm already preparing a product line of beach towels covered with this material in this hope!

    4. Re:Sunlight? by joto · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's a kind of a gravity lamp, but unlike the one written about here recently, this one doesn't spin a rotor to generate electricity, and it generates its own gravity field by having immense mass. The crunching of matter through gravity results in a fusion reaction which heats matter further and balances the contraction so that it doesn't turn into a black hole. The light it creates is simply a byproduct of this heat, and contains almost every wavelength of light, thus creating a good work light, hence the term "daylight" which historically defined working hours. While most workplaces have artificial light available today, sunlight is still of importance in agriculture, and for planetary environmental reasons.

    5. Re:Sunlight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you be sitting next to someone who was wearing artificial fabrics? NATURAL FIBERS ONLY, that should go for you AND your friends. Works for me.

    6. Re:Sunlight? by virgil_disgr4ce · · Score: 1

      "Now this is made from a space-age fabric specially designed for Elvis. Sweat actually cleans this suit!"

      X-D

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    7. Re:Sunlight? by exploder · · Score: 1

      especially useful in hospitals and other medical settings

      Outdoor hospitals, I presume.
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    8. Re:Sunlight? by asterix404 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Screw hospitals, does this mean that if geeks go out for 15 mins of sunlight they don't smell anymore?

    9. Re:Sunlight? by hobbit · · Score: 1

      thus creating a good work light, hence the term "daylight" Remind me not to employ you as person in charge of sequiturs.

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    10. Re:Sunlight? by wallyhall · · Score: 1

      "which oxidize, or decompose, organic matter." Isn't anyone else concerned about wearing such things?!
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    11. Re:Sunlight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At what point will it start breaking down and attacking the human body in search of the food in the stomach... or the body itself, if it figure out that a lot of flesh it behind the shirt!

    12. Re:Sunlight? by enjerth · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I always wondered the light peeking around the shades on my basement window was from, but I was never venturous enough to find out.

    13. Re:Sunlight? by TobyRush · · Score: 2, Funny

      does this mean that if geeks go out for 15 mins of sunlight they don't smell anymore?
      Yeah, but 15 whole minutes of actual sunlight? I mean, would it really be worth it?
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    14. Re:Sunlight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, look forward to our bald, organic-materials-eating hat overlords. Hair is, after all, protein and not alive anymore and probably susceptible. This is obviously an attempt by Dr Evil to equalize the playing field for him when competing for hot babes. Although if they wear caps, they may become bald hot babes.

  2. Its Achilles heel by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously this would be the perfect clothing for many slashbots. However its requirement of sunlight to activate the self-cleaning enzymes makes it impractical for those basement dwellers among you.

    Can they modify the fabric to react to the glow of a CRT?

    1. Re:Its Achilles heel by provigilman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, but it reacts to the UV light...so all you have to do is replace your normal closet bulb with a bright UV lamp and then hang your clothes up for the night with the light on!

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    2. Re:Its Achilles heel by jrumney · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean you have the energy left to take your clothes off and hang them in the server-room closet before you slump over your keyboard for the night? You obviously aren't getting in enough WoW.

    3. Re:Its Achilles heel by provigilman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well if you're playing WoW naked then it isn't a problem, is it? I mean....not that, you know...I do, or anything....it was just a suggestion...if you're into that..... *runs*

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    4. Re:Its Achilles heel by zehaeva · · Score: 1

      somehow i'm reminded of that one sig "MMO's are like orgasms, You may solo yours but I prefer mine in groups"

    5. Re:Its Achilles heel by calebt3 · · Score: 1

      +3 Insightful.
      Scary

    6. Re:Its Achilles heel by mathimus1863 · · Score: 1

      The ones who don't see sunlight gave up their CRTs long ago. We need another breakthrough to harness the LCD light.

    7. Re:Its Achilles heel by lazy+genes · · Score: 0

      Hmmmm,How about putting nanocrystals in the bong water

    8. Re:Its Achilles heel by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Run all you want, just don't go outside.

  3. Only self-cleans in sunlight? by Gr33nNight · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess we'll be seeing many more geeks walking around in their underwear.

    1. Re:Only self-cleans in sunlight? by dmleach · · Score: 1

      No, no: it only self-cleans in sunlight. The world will still be safe from horrific visions of pasty naked geeks.

  4. Thats great but.... by IronMagnus · · Score: 1

    What about those of us who sit behind a computer in a basement all day letting our pizza spill on to our shirts?

    1. Re:Thats great but.... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

      Some blacklights in our basement should give the same effect - and also give us an excuse to put up those velvet posters we always secretly admired.

    2. Re:Thats great but.... by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 1

      Just move your workstation into a tanning booth. And I won't even apply for a patent.

    3. Re:Thats great but.... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      What about those of us who sit behind a computer in a basement all day letting our pizza spill on to our shirts?

      Well, you're already not interested in the state of your laundry, so it's not like it's any worse than what you have now. :-P

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    4. Re:Thats great but.... by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      You could always order your pizza and meet the delivery boy at the front door for a bit of sunlight.

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  5. In Other News... by wrfelts · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...man wakes up to find a pile of goo wearing his wife's very clean titanium dioxide pajamas...

    1. Re:In Other News... by tattood · · Score: 1

      No kidding. Aren't humans essentially organic material? How does this break down the food and dirt and not the skin?

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    2. Re:In Other News... by DrLang21 · · Score: 5, Funny

      We most certainly ARE organic matter. And in a sense, we are also food. I for one do not desire to be digested by my own pants.

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    3. Re:In Other News... by Z34107 · · Score: 1

      The article states that the Titanium Dioxide used is the same compound used in sun screen and cosmetics, so it's probably not going to dissolve anyone's wife anytime soon ^.^

      They've used this in self-cleaning glass; only problem was they couldn't get it to "stick" to clothing fabric in the same way.

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    4. Re:In Other News... by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Funny

      The article states that the Titanium Dioxide used is the same compound used in sun screen and cosmetics, so it's probably not going to dissolve anyone's wife anytime soon ^.^ That's what *they* want you to believe. In truth, anyone who's worn sunscreen for any length of time has likely been gradually replaced atom-by-atom without ever noticing, until there's nothing of the original human being left. Sure, they look like hot bikini babes, but they're actually aliens from the planet Ambre Solaire.
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    5. Re:In Other News... by Z34107 · · Score: 1

      It's a good thing women only exist on the internet then, unless I've been grossly misinformed...

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    6. Re:In Other News... by codeButcher · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, pants eat you.

      OK, lame, but it had to be said.

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    7. Re:In Other News... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      I for one do not desire to be digested by my own pants. Always make sure your pants are well-fed?
    8. Re:In Other News... by QuantumPion · · Score: 1

      We most certainly ARE organic matter. And in a sense, we are also food. I for one do not desire to be digested by my own pants.
      After years of abuse, Bart Simpson's shorts would finally have their revenge.
  6. Awesome by weston · · Score: 1

    I look forward to the development of advanced greenhouse-hospitals with remarkable amounts of sunlight.

    1. Re:Awesome by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That was my first thought, too. Sunlight is only allowed in recovery rooms at any of the hospitals I've been in, and MAYBE some lobbies.

      Still, fluorescent tubes not only cause me to have seizures, but they also produce huge amounts of ultraviolet light. Will they still work? (No, the humor is not lost on me that the lighting in hospitals causes me to have seizures... )

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    2. Re:Awesome by tim_darklighter · · Score: 1

      All you really need is UV light (400 nm). So fluorescent bulbs are good. This includes black lights. :D

    3. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, when you get enough titantium-dioxide nanocrystals in your lungs and pores, you'll have a good reason to be in your advanced greenhouse-hospital.

      Nano-anything just doesn't sound too good to me.

    4. Re:Awesome by rucs_hack · · Score: 1

      What country do you live in?

      I ask because the lack of sunlight in hospitals is a big issue here in the UK, where a lot of our hospitals are in very old buildings that just don't get enough light.

      That's changing now, new wings tend to have lots of light.

      Not quite enough sunlight to help with asepsis alas, but that's more because of things like cleaners carrying mops from ward to ward then anything else.

    5. Re:Awesome by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 1

      Canada. Our hospitals are mostly built in the 70's around here, but they're building like nuclear fallout shelters. The fluorescent lights are still "natural light" fluorescents, but they still suck.

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    6. Re:Awesome by blincoln · · Score: 1

      Still, fluorescent tubes not only cause me to have seizures, but they also produce huge amounts of ultraviolet light.

      They do? I mean, I know they do internally, but it should all be absorbed by the inside coating and the glass of the tube. That's why the kind that are used for sterilization are made from quartz - it doesn't block UVC like glass does.

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  7. Sounds good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...so long as the 1980's computer voice from "Back to the Future II" alerts the wearer when their jacket is dry.

    1. Re:Sounds good... by CSMatt · · Score: 1

      Next step: self-shrinking sleeves and self-tying shoes.

      I know my life would dramatically improve when these reach production.

  8. hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Titanium dioxide is a strong photocatalyst and in the presence of ultraviolet light and water vapor, it forms hydroxyl radicals, which oxidize, or decompose, organic matter.

    If I am made of organic matter should I only wear these treated cloths at night?

  9. Awesome! by UWM · · Score: 1

    Now I'll never need to leave my room

  10. Temporary Fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great. Now we can look forward to "Clothes resistant flesh-eating streptococcus".

  11. Interesting variety of uses by brian0918 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's interesting that a compound normally used in dyes is now being use to prevent stains.

    1. Re:Interesting variety of uses by tim_darklighter · · Score: 1

      It's actually an important ingredient in sunscreen too.

    2. Re:Interesting variety of uses by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      If by "dyes" you mean, "ordinary white house paint" then, yes, it is used in dyes. It's used to dye PEG white!

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  12. Two questions by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1) Does this process bleach the fabric? (i.e. Does this work for colors other than white?)
    2) What does this do to the longevity of the fibers in the fabric? Does constant exposure to hydroxyl ions damage the cellulose in them?

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    1. Re:Two questions by tim_darklighter · · Score: 3, Informative

      1) Ideally no. If the coating is thick enough, light should not be able to get through and start the degradation of the fabric/dyes. This assumes that all fibers are similarly (and thus perfectly) coated. I could see cheaper coating processes leading to quicker bleaching. 2) This is similar to your first question. Only light + catalyst = degradation, so as long as the coating is uniform and thick enough to keep light from penetrating too far, it should be safe.

    2. Re:Two questions by mdielmann · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If the coating is thick enough, light should not be able to get through and start the degradation of the fabric/dyes. Um, if the light can't get through, how can the dye reflect any light? And if the dye is on the surface of the nanocrystal coating, how is this going to stop the dye from being exposed to hydroxyl ions?
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    3. Re:Two questions by theheadlessrabbit · · Score: 1

      titanium dioxide IS white. it is a very strong opaque white.

      ever notice how damn hard it is to rub in sun screen with titanium dioxide. you always see that white paste on your skin. yet sunscreen made with zinc oxide (a translucent white pigment) absorbs so easily.

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    4. Re:Two questions by tim_darklighter · · Score: 1

      I'll amend my statement. If the coating is uniform enough (and the outer surface is far away from the innersurface so that charge transfer is not possible to the inner layer), then the reactive species (usually hydroxyl radicals) cannot be formed between the catalyst and fabric interface and the fabric and dye should be fine. Come to think of it these 4-5 nm particles should be a transparent colloid. Much thicker though, and it will be a white garment. Having looked at the article itself (the peer-reviewed journal, not the press release), they did not make any mention of fabric destruction, although it was a 2-3 page communication, so that doesn't mean much. Hopefully they will release an actually research paper (usually 6+ pages) that is very in-depth with characterizations and control experiments.

  13. Well, there goes my plans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess the old "Spill something on her dress and act concerned by patting her chest with a napkin" plan just flew out the window. Now I gotta use other plans to act innocent while copping a feel.

    I guess I could try the "Make a sudden stop at a light right before it turns red and stick my arm out to make sure she doesn't fly forward" plan.

    1. Re:Well, there goes my plans... by somersault · · Score: 1

      Well, we have these things called 'seatbelts' over here in the UK, you'd better hope they don't introduce them in the US or you're clearly never going to get any. Why you don't just make careful advances in snuggle time eludes me, though.. :p

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    2. Re:Well, there goes my plans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      He can't afford the date rape drug yet.

    3. Re:Well, there goes my plans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you'll just have to upgrade from sexual harassment to rape.

    4. Re:Well, there goes my plans... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Funny

      I like to go with the "ride in front of me on my motorcycle facing me, holding on, because I don't have a passenger backrest."

  14. Life span of garment? by RandoX · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Titanium dioxide is a strong photocatalyst and in the presence of ultraviolet light and water vapor, it forms hydroxyl radicals

    It sounds like some of the titanium dioxide is used up in the process. How long will the self-cleaning property last?

    1. Re:Life span of garment? by BytePusher · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Titanium dioxide is a strong photocatalyst" meaning it's not used up in the process. It breaks water into an -OH and an H, which in turn clean your clothing. Basically, it'll produce bleach vapor from water vapor when sunlight is hitting it.

    2. Re:Life span of garment? by tim_darklighter · · Score: 1

      No, the hydroxyl radicals are usually formed from a combination of molecular oxygen and water (multiple reactions). The titania is not degraded in a measurable amount. It is a real catalyst, and thus will last forever unless mechanically washed off of the fabric.

    3. Re:Life span of garment? by avandesande · · Score: 1

      perhaps you should look up the definition of 'catalyst'- by definition catalysts are restored to their original state in process cycles and are not consumed in a reaction.

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    4. Re:Life span of garment? by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      "Tide Titanium sweaters! Now with 45% more bleach fumes!"

      I think I'll stick with washing stuff with soap and water. I do see this being useful maybe for tents and the like.

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    5. Re:Life span of garment? by IceCreamGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...it'll produce bleach vapor Wait... like chlorine gas? Will I finally be able to make the Bender chlorine jokes while actually choking on chlorine gas? Fantastic!
    6. Re:Life span of garment? by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      No. You can't get chlorine gas from -OH and -H. As to the mechanism that makes it "bleach," my guess is that, once the breaking of the water bond takes place, two -OH radicals tend to combine to form hydrogen peroxide.

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    7. Re:Life span of garment? by ZeroFactorial · · Score: 1

      Not to be a nay-sayer, but isn't the human body made up of 60-70% water?

      I'm melllltiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiingggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    8. Re:Life span of garment? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      Could they use this process in automobiles to keep the exterior clean longer between washes?

    9. Re:Life span of garment? by sexybomber · · Score: 1

      It breaks water into an -OH and an H, which in turn clean your clothing. Basically, it'll produce bleach vapor from water vapor when sunlight is hitting it.

      It will also create hydrogen gas, which tends to, y'know, blow up, possibly shortening the lifespan of the garment.
    10. Re:Life span of garment? by spootle · · Score: 1

      That sounds healthy.

    11. Re:Life span of garment? by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      As to the mechanism that makes it "bleach," my guess is that, once the breaking of the water bond takes place, two -OH radicals tend to combine to form hydrogen peroxide.

      H2O2? Makes me wonder, will these clothes lighten your body hair as a result?

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    12. Re:Life span of garment? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Yes. Water is transmuted into chlorine. This stuff is also an integral part of the machine that transmutes water vapor into gold that I have for sale...

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    13. Re:Life span of garment? by N+Monkey · · Score: 1

      "Tide Titanium sweaters! Now with 45% more bleach fumes!"

      I think I'll stick with washing stuff with soap and water. I do see this being useful maybe for tents and the like.

      Bleach as in an oxidising agent, in this case, oxygen, not chlorine. I guess you nodded off in chemistry :)

      Now the question is, can it be adapted into a shampoo for the "peroxide blondes"? :)
  15. Not so fast... by joaommp · · Score: 1

    Clothes are relatively easy to clean... Now, self-cleaning keyboards... that would be an achievement!

  16. Let us pool in money... by middlemen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let us pool in money and buy one for our beloved RMS ! ;)

  17. Why not make it with the original nanocrystal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ... Asbestos?

  18. Armpit Stink by Numbah+One · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Can these self-cleaning clothes handle the "armpit stank" most of us put out? those living in the basement of their parent's house might not consider this much of an issue, but the rest of us do :-)

    1. Re:Armpit Stink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good news! Scientists have also discovered that aluminum zirconium tetrachlorohydrex glycine, when applied to the underarm, helps to prevent perspiration, and thus the "armpit stank". Would computer "professionals" be more inclined to use anti-perspirants if it was marketed as "Aluminum zirconium tetrachlorohydrex glycine". I think yes!

  19. Safe on the body, but inside the body? by shking · · Score: 1

    OK. So it's safe on the skin, but what's the chance of inhaling or swallowing this stuff? What are the effects if it's taken internally?

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    1. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self-cleaning anal beads! You're a genius!

    2. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by tim_darklighter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Titanium dioxide is non-toxic. You'll just poop it out.

    3. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by shking · · Score: 4, Funny

      Self-cleaning anal beads! You're a genius!
      No sh**!
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    4. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by orclevegam · · Score: 1

      According to wikipedia, Titanium Dioxide is used in many things, including as a food dye and in many toothpastes. So yeah, odds are you already swallow a good amount of the stuff as is.

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    5. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1

      OK. So it's safe on the skin Actually the jury's still out on that. I've read studies (can't remember the reference off the top of my head, I can look it up if anyone cares) that suggest the presence of titanium dioxide in sunscreens increases the amount of free radicals in the skin and may contribute to an increased risk of cancer. It's still miles safer than PABA in sunscreens, but it may not be 100% safe.
    6. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Self-cleaning anal beads! You're a genius!

      But isn't the whole idea of an anal bead to be shoved where Sun doesn't shine ? How would a solar powered self-cleaning system help there ?

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    7. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by shking · · Score: 1

      Self-cleaning anal beads! You're a genius!

      hmmm... on reflection, I think that it probably wouldn't work. The cleaning happens on exposure to sunlight and the beads are put "where the sun don't shine"

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    8. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by SimonInOz · · Score: 1

      >> Self-cleaning anal beads! You're a genius!

      Hang on. The sun don't shine there ...

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    9. Re:Safe on the body, but inside the body? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      No sh*t! "Titanium dioxide is a strong photocatalyst" meaning it doesn't work where the sun doesn't shine.
  20. self-cleaning and self-destructing? by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What stops the hydroxyl radicals produced by Ti02 from oxidizing the organic material in the cotton, silk, or hemp fibers?

    Sounds like a great way to ensure no one wears last year's fashions.

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    1. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 1

      That was my question too. What's the difference between skin, wool, cotton and dirt or bacteria? You can just imagine the warning tags. "A small percentage of wearers find their outer dermis eaten off by this cloth. If you experience itching, discomfort or excessive bleeding out of your pores, please discontinue use and see a doctor."

    2. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by adamchou · · Score: 2, Interesting

      More important than that, what happens to my skin when it gets oxidized?

    3. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by evanbd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Cotton is basically cellulose, which is chemically highly inert (it's a strong structure, and it arranges itself with all the chemically interesting bits on the inside of a spiral, so the attacking chemicals have trouble getting to them). Hydroxyl radicals aren't going to be enough to attack it agressively (though they might very slowly). This will be chemically similar to (not the same as) peroxide based bleaches, which are relatively mild (especially compared to chlorine bleach).

      I don't know specifically about the other fibers, but many natural fibers are chemically resistant, so I'm not surprised they say it works with wool and other things as well.

    4. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by bar-agent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More important than that, what happens to my skin when it gets oxidized?

      Your acne clears up.

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    5. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      Off-topic question, but you seem to know your stuff, so I'll ask. If cotton is basically cellulose, could I recycle old clothing into ethanol once cellulosic ethanol production is possible on a reasonable scale?

    6. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by evanbd · · Score: 1

      I would assume so. There's some chance the process wouldn't like dyes and such, but I imagine that could be solved (and my guess would be it wouldn't care).

    7. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by uberhobo_one · · Score: 2, Informative

      No fabric is resistant to hydroxyl radicals. It's just about the most potent oxidant out there, and can make short work of cellulose. It works fast, too. In fact, there are industrial processes that utilize hydroxyl radicals to degrade the lignin in wood pulp for use in paper. Just about the only way to protect your clothes from hydroxyl radicals would be to coat them in Teflon, but then you wouldn't have to worry about stains anyway.

    8. Re:self-cleaning and self-destructing? by Refenestrator · · Score: 1

      Since titanium dioxide is the active ingredient in sunscreen, probably nothing harmful.

  21. Blood? by grassy_knoll · · Score: 1

    Does this also remove blood stains?

    If so, Dexter would love it...

  22. however... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tagline...."The cyrstals when they eventually wear off become airbourne and the prolonged exposure causes suffocation due to scar tissue in the lungs." (j/k).

    Can we say mesothelioma???

  23. Idiocracy by conspirator57 · · Score: 2, Funny

    so that's how the clothes in that movie stayed so clean despite the surrounding filth...

    there's proof positive this will work.

    check it out in the time musheen!

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  24. Man, I remember when Lead was safe too by tjstork · · Score: 1, Funny

    Sure, they say that Titanium Dioxide, that uber dangerous chemical also found in white paint, is safe to wear now, but, what about 20 years ago? Back in my day, scientists said that lead was safe for gasoline, and that was wrong. Then they said that the pill was safe, until fish started popping up without sex organs? They used to have this four food groups and said I needed to eat a lot of peanut butter and cheese, and I did, and now I need a new thing to get my cholesterol back down, and I can only eat food that even dogs wouldn't eat. Back in my day, doctors used to dole out speed like it was going out of style and advocate a smoke to calm your nerves. Now they've taken all of that away, all the good stuff, and instead, I've got clothes that I won't have to wash. I know those are going to kill me too.

    Nope, I'll just stick to washing clothes with water and a bit of soap!

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    1. Re:Man, I remember when Lead was safe too by orclevegam · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know that soap will kill you. Also, water is the deadliest substance on Earth, says so right here.

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    2. Re:Man, I remember when Lead was safe too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      There are a small number of people who are allergic to titanium dioxide.

      I only know this because I am one of them. This is annoying because it means I can't use toothpaste, eat m&m's (or any other hard candy for the most part), and I get surface rashes from transfer exposure; e.g. my wife can no longer paint her fingernails because most nail polish has titanium dioxide. We only found out I had the allergy after we bought my wedding band, a beautiful piece of titanium...
    3. Re:Man, I remember when Lead was safe too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't use toothpaste... We only found out I had the allergy after we bought my wedding band, a beautiful piece of titanium...

      You were only first exposed after putting on your wedding band? Your wife wasn't much of a stickler on clean teeth, was she?

    4. Re:Man, I remember when Lead was safe too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More of the overexposure to titanium (in the wedding band) caused the allergy, at least thats what the allergist we spoke to at the doctors office said. Today, watching exposure carefully (using an all-natural toothpaste, select soaps) it's ok, but still get the random breakout.

    5. Re:Man, I remember when Lead was safe too by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Have no fear.. nano-particles of Titanium Dioxide are completely harmless! And if you're a vegan, you'll love our new line of self-cleaning asbestos clothing -- soft, warm, and 100% animal-free! Now available in glow-in-the-dark radium yellow, and of course, all of our clothing is treated with DDT to ensure a pest-free experience!*

      *By reading this sentence, you agree to release Tropic of Cancer Clothing LLC of any and all liability for damages including, but not limited to: cancer; birth defects; typhoid; spontaneous mutations of the epidermis; difficulty breathing, sleeping, or both; sexual dysfunction; burning or itchy skin, eyes, nose, ears, and/or mouth; hair loss; tooth loss; loss of appetite; loss of hearing; indigestion; herpes; bone loss; thinning of the nails, thickening of the retina; African Sleeping Sickness; coma; or diarrhea. A small number of our customers have experienced intense menstrual pains, prolonged or excessive periods, and difficulty urinating. A statistically insignificant portion have reached critical mass when exposed to a primary, or "trigger" explosion, and/or electricity. Dry clean only.

    6. Re:Man, I remember when Lead was safe too by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      You know that soap will kill you. Not if you just leave it on the floor.
  25. Am I the only one.... by mark-t · · Score: 1

    Who immediate thought of this when they saw the headline?

    1. Re:Am I the only one.... by Badmovies · · Score: 1

      I did as well. Didn't know it was out on DVD now, so I thank you kindly, sir.

      Off to Amazon I go...

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    2. Re:Am I the only one.... by morethanapapercert · · Score: 1
      Actually, my first thought was a Heinlein reference. If memory serves, it was in Time Enough For Love where Lazarus/Woodrow/Theodore was given a a set of coveralls to use as period garb for pre-WWI America until he can acquire authentic clothing from that time frame. It was described as "Hercules cloth, won't get dirty and can't wear out" or words to that effect.

      It seems the term "Hercules Cloth" has been adopted by contemporary fabric makers, I've found a reference that lists Hercules as a tough, two-ply polyester used in flags. Source

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  26. This might make business SCENTS and CENTS... by davidsyes · · Score: 1, Informative

    But, it doesn't seem to make SENSE to me...

    http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/titaniumdioxide/recognition.html
    Search down to:

    HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION

    http://www.theorganicmakeupcompany.com/CA/titaniumdioxide.asp

    "Titanium dioxide has a variety of uses, as it is odorless and absorbent. This mineral can be found in many products, ranging from paint to food to cosmetics. In cosmetics, it serves several purposes. It is a white pigment, an opacifier and a sunscreen. Concern has arisen from studies that have pointed to titanium dioxide as a carcinogen and photocatalyst, thus creating fear in consumers."

    "The MSDS states that titanium dioxide can cause some lung fibrosis at fifty times the nuisance dust, defined by the US Department of Labor as 15 mg/m cubed (OSHA) or 10 mg/m cubed (ACGIH Threshold Limit Value). The ACGIH states that titanium dioxide is "not classifiable as a human carcinogen". Symptoms of chronic overexposure to titanium dioxide in an industrial setting, according to the MSDS, include a "slight increase in lung tumour incidence in lab rats". It also states "when titanium dioxide was fed to rats/mice in a carcinogen bioassay, it was not carcinogenic". The NIOSH declares that at 5000 mg/m cubed there was slight lung fibrosis, concluding that this substance was carcinogenic in rats."

    http://www.ccohs.ca/headlines/text186.html

    OK, I know the first slam upon me will be the lack of concentration of the TiO2, the means of entry, and so on, but STILL...

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    1. Re:This might make business SCENTS and CENTS... by Quadraginta · · Score: 5, Informative

      Any very fine mineral dust you inhale in large quantities -- and 5.0 grams per cubic meter is unbelievably dusty, like blowing a whole pack of chalk to smithereens in your office -- will cause the symptoms described in both the OSHA document and the more problematic document you cite from people who want to scare you into buying their (more expensive) "natural" products.

      All particles with sharp edges, i.e. that come from minerals, irritate the delicate tissue lining your lungs if you inhale it. TiO2 is no different in this regard than, say, SiO2 -- plain old sand -- that you might inhale if you were around blasting or power sanding operations all day. (Google "silicosis.")

      Furthermore, your lungs are built like lobster traps from the point of view of inhaled superfine particles: it's easy to get in, but very difficult to get out. This is why in the upper region of the respiratory tract, you have mucus that traps inhaled larger particles and cilia that beat constantly to flush them up and out, plus a cough reflex to expel the scum. But you can't have these things in the deep tissue of the lungs, because that surface area is needed for gas exchange.

      So if you inhale very fine dust, it just stays in your lungs pretty much forever, jiggling around and rubbing on things, irritating them. Your body may decide to wall it off with scar tissue if it's irritating enough, which is the "fibrosis" mentioned. It's even possible if it's sufficiently irritating, like the very sharp particles of asbestos fibers, that it can stimulate lung cancer. For all we know, the only reason people get lung cancer in the large numbers they do is because, sooner or later, everyone's lungs fill up with irritating particles of all manner and description and the chronic irritation causes tumors. Unfortunately, the only way to eliminate the threat of inhaled fine dust completely is to never breathe without a heavy fine-filtering face mask.

      Insofar as these clothes are concerned, the primary question would be: how is this very fine dust going to be generated? I mean, inhaling very fine silica (SiO2) dust is dangerous in exactly the same way, but you don't refuse to go to the beach or rock-climbing because you know the rock and sand has no reason to suddenly pulverize itself and become superfine dangerous dust. So how would fibers coated with TiO2 get pulverized and generate super fine dust? Don't say the motion of wearing the clothes, either, because you need much more force than this. Walking on the sand at the beach doesn't pulverize the sand particles and generated dangerous superfine silica dust, after all.

    2. Re:This might make business SCENTS and CENTS... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, I must've pissed off some garment or science types to get 20% flamebait.

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    3. Re:This might make business SCENTS and CENTS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      been a researcher in this very field as well, I would have to say the results are abit over-hyped at the moment. Also the toxicity of the nanoparticles so close to the body is not well understood at all as Titanium dioxide under UV can also attack cells. Hell it attacks everything organic...including the wool over time

    4. Re:This might make business SCENTS and CENTS... by Quadraginta · · Score: 1

      I would have to say the results are a bit over-hyped at the moment

      Isn't that pretty much the definition of anything called "nanotech" these days?

      Hey! I've invented a clever nanotech material which, at room temperature, forms a convenient colorless, odorless, nontoxic liquid, storable indefinitely, and when the temperature is lowered sufficiently self-assembles into a strong, lightweight, clear polymeric solid made of molecular subunits interlocked in the same superstrong pattern as a diamond crystal. It's so safe it can be drunk! Conceivable applications include portable, battery-less, high-efficiency cooling or environmentally-friendly thermal-barrier building materials in northern climates. When applied as a thin coating, which is as easy as spraying on the liquid and lowering the temperature to the molecular self-assembly point, it forms an atomically-smooth hard surface with one of the lowest coefficients of friction measured, which means it could have all kinds of applications in energy-efficient "green" transportation.

      Interested in investing? Send money now! Cash and checks only, please.

  27. Obligatory Clerks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I told the boss that if we could activate the cleaning process via moonlight that we could cater to the vampire and hooker crowd...

  28. BTW, great summary by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Researchers ... have found a process to coat natural fibers ... by coating their fibers...

    That's some darn good journalism right there. Uh-huh.

  29. I can't wait to breathe that crap in by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1
    and die of some horrible lung disease.

    Is there something terribly wrong with simply getting up off your ass and cleaning your clothes once in a while?

    RS

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    1. Re:I can't wait to breathe that crap in by compro01 · · Score: 1

      Is there something terribly wrong with simply getting up off your ass and cleaning your clothes once in a while? Yes, but how much time/money/energy/chemicals are needed for that ordinary cleaning?

      Anyway, I see it more as a good alternative to dry cleaning than to regular washing.
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    2. Re:I can't wait to breathe that crap in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there something terribly wrong with simply getting up off your ass and cleaning your clothes once in a while?
      You must be new here...
  30. Let me guess by netglen · · Score: 1

    Once you wash these specially treated clothes in a regular washer, you lose the self-cleaning ability? :D

    1. Re:Let me guess by tim_darklighter · · Score: 1

      I should hope not. Surfactants (like laundry detergent) usually increase the reactivity of the photocatalyst, so if you've got some fluorescent lighting in your washer, it will be doubly clean. Actually soaking these clothes in normal water and then hanging them up to dry in the sun may be the best way to clean them. Titania doesn't dissolve in water, and water greatly increases the reactivity of the photocatalyst by producing more hydroxyl radicals. Long live the clothesline!

  31. Headlines by pete-classic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Feb. '08 - Researchers Develop Self-Cleaning Clothes
    June '09 - Startup "Washtec" Sells First Self-Cleaning Clothes
    Oct. '09 - Old Navy, Nike, UnderArmour License Self-Cleaning Fabric Technology
    Nov. '12 - Self-Cleaning Apparel Set to Overtake Ordinary Clothing Sales this Holiday
    July '13 - Self-Cleaning Clothes Linked to Cancer, Impotence, Schizophrenia
    Aug. '13 - Self-Cleaning Clothes Health Study Flawed
    Nov. '13 - Self-Cleaning Clothes: The Killer in your Closet
    Nov. '13 - SCCs do Pose Some Risk, Scientists Say
    Dec. '13 - SCC Risks Exaggerated, Study Finds
    Feb. '14 - Old Navy pulls SCCs from Shelves
    June '14 - Newer, Safer, SCC Technology Developed

    1. Re:Headlines by poity · · Score: 1

      Aug '14 - SCCs become self-aware. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

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    2. Re:Headlines by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That crossed my mind, but I didn't want to veer off course.

      -Peter

    3. Re:Headlines by I_M_Noman · · Score: 1

      Alec Guinness starred in a movie about this in 1951.

  32. Pffft. If the clothing was smart by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the clothing made from this fabric was smart enough, it would eventually figure out that the best way to get rid of the 'dirt' problem is to eliminate the one, who is wearing the clothing in question. While the researchers say that these nanocrystals cannot harm the skin, how long before it gains this ability, by say becoming exposed to some levels of X-Rays higher than normal? It wouldn't make long before a movie about the hungry killer suit is released. Also judging from the kind of garbage that get the Oscar nowadays, this new movie is going to get fasttracked in that department as well.

  33. self cleaning cloths? by pdwalker · · Score: 1

    Nerds of the world, Rejoice!

  34. Really could be very useful by Fered · · Score: 1

    Ok, there have been many funny comments, but this could be very useful outside of the realm of those of us who have poor hygiene habits.

    My girlfriend is currently in her third year of med school and she has repeatedly talked about the issue of doctor's ties, white coats, and other things in hospitals being harbors for germs.
    I'm imagining that 'cleaning stations' could be setup relatively easily around hospitals where all you do is shine some UV light or whatever activates this stuff and you could decrease the spread of germs without huge cost or inconvenience. I mean, doctors wash their hands all the time, but how often can you realistically wash a tie?

    I for one would like to see this developed further and find out how low we could get mass production costs.

  35. Now hold on a minute... by dwalsh · · Score: 1


    Are you telling me that normal clothes are not self-cleaning, and you are meant to wash them or something?
    </slashdotReaderCliche>

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  36. Wait a cotton pickin minute? by arizwebfoot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    which oxidize, or decompose, organic matter How does it know the difference between a piece of pork and your skin?
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    1. Re:Wait a cotton pickin minute? by mb108 · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly.... If it breaks down the cell wall of bacteria, it can do the same to your own cell walls. There's no structural difference between the two. Maybe it doesn't react to the keratin which composes the the outermost layer of skin, but still. There's going to be somebody out there who exfoliates a little too much, puts on their favorite self-cleaning shirt, and develops a nasty rash as soon as they step outside.

      Oh, and the obligatory:
      "Luckily, /.ers are safe from both exfoliation and sunlight."

    2. Re: Wait a cotton pickin minute? by arizwebfoot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only that, but your skin is crawling with "good" bacteria and how does it know the difference between the "bad" bacteria to break down and the "good" bacteria on your skin?

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    3. Re: Wait a cotton pickin minute? by mb108 · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but your skin is crawling with "good" bacteria and how does it know the difference between the "bad" bacteria to break down and the "good" bacteria on your skin? "Yes folks, another great product from the people who brought you antibacterial soap and the vicious unkillable superbugs that infest your local hospitals! Enjoy!"

      The world will be a better place when people realize that a bacteria-free environment is only desirable in one place: a surgeon's clean field.
    4. Re: Wait a cotton pickin minute? by blueg3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      There's actually a pretty subtle distinction here. "Superbugs" are caused by the overuse or misuse of antibiotic medicines -- chemical agents that selectively kill bacteria and other germs. Less-subtle techniques, like most antiseptics, are much tougher to develop a mechanism for avoiding, so topical antiseptics like soap and bleach stand no real chance of becoming ineffective germ-killers. (They're also not selective, and so doing something like ingesting them is not feasible.) While putting antibiotics into products unnecessarily increases the risk of developing an antibiotic-resistant bacterial strain, this isn't the case for an antiseptic (like what is produced by TiO2).

  37. Toothpaste by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

    Ever brushed your teeth? Maybe with white toothpaste? You worried about that too?

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    1. Re:Toothpaste by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 1

      The people most interested in self-cleaning clothes probably aren't the most acquainted with hygiene products.

  38. If only I'd had this as a student... by MrSteveSD · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't have had to hammer my socks until the were bendable again :)

  39. This must be what Star Trek uniforms are made of by greenslashpurple · · Score: 1

    You always see captain Kirk, Spock, the Redshirts, and all the rest of them beam down into dirty, dusty, hostile environments for weeks at a time. Most of the episodes, the planet hadn't even evolved dry cleaners or laundromats, or it had evolved way way past that. Yet their shirts are always spotless. I always wondered how that worked. Now I know: Titanium nano crystals from the future embedded in the very fabric of the star fleet uniform.

  40. Environmentally friendly by El+Pollo+Loco · · Score: 1

    That's pretty awesome. Less water usage. Less work for me. It's win/ win. The water savings along could be incredible.

  41. Also a paint by GreatRedShark · · Score: 1

    I remember seeing at the Toronto Condo Show a year or two ago a company that had a paint which had similar properties: would kill bacteria and destroy dirt when the dirt/bacteria contacted the painted material that was exposed to sunlight. They claimed it was already quite popular in medical settings and also in residential settings in Asia, and they were trying to break into the local residential markets.

    It sounded really cool, but unfortunately, they guy who was at the booth was more sales than tech. Does anyone know what this was, or how it worked? It sounds similar to the clothing described here.

  42. fnorp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  43. Recall notice and related news release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We regret to inform our customers, that due to manufacturing errors at our plants in China, some batches of our self-cleaning cloth have demonstrated unexpected behavior. In those cases the cleaning process has been extended beyond the material of the clothing. We have reports where the cleaning process removed the skin layer of the person wearing underwear products made from our patented material. We have identified the cause, and put in more stringent manufacturing rules.

    In related news: Reinventing the funeral business

    An Australian company have applied for patents for their "bodybag coffin", which may revolutionize the way how we take care of those who passed away. The "bodybag coffin" is based on nanotechnology, which allows the breakdown of the dead body within hours, eliminating the need for expensive burial sites. During the fast elimination process the "body beg coffin" offers different options. The simple version collects the remains (which are broken down to less than a handful of ashes-like material) into a small "soul bag" and can be taken by the relatives by the end of the funeral ceremony.

    Other version of the "body bag coffin" can produce electricity during the breakdown process and the "soul energy" can be captured and stored in a variety of ways to create a memorabilia of the passed away person.

    The "body beg coffin" is very environmental friendly, there is no technical difficulty to re-use it over and over.
    The public will have to get used to the idea of the re-usable "body bag coffin", but the company spoke person pointed out, that we already use the same equipments to cremate bodies.

    Rich customers would probably have their own "body beg coffin", while the "Dynasty" version will aim to "family body beg coffins", where family members could use the same "body beg coffins" to "bury" their loved ones for generations to come. This version will be equipped with a technology, called "DNA-elIminate", which will make sure, that at the end of the process any remainders of the DNA of the deceased is completely "shredded".

  44. The Colors... by hhr · · Score: 1

    Making something self-cleaning by coating it with titanium dioxide seams to pop up every couple of years. There was an effort to make self cleaning kitchen tiles and self cleaning house siding.

    These wonderful technologies run into two problems.

    One, they only come in one color-- white.

    Two, they only work in UV light. So the shady bits can get very dirty-- dirty enough to block the UV and halt the self cleaning trick.

    What's the point of having a self cleaning garmet if you have to tumble it for hours under UV light?

  45. Totally off topic by Deagol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But what is wrong with this picture (from one of the Wikipedia links above)? Is she some sort or slave woman whose chains were photoshopped from her legs but not all of her shadow? WTF?

    1. Re:Totally off topic by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      That is pretty weird. It looks like there were chains hanging from her legs. Maybe she was holding something behind her?

    2. Re:Totally off topic by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Looks like it. There's some evidence of photoshopping just above her ankles. Also, on the right ankle you can see veins beginning abruptly on her right foot.

      That, plus the industrial park in the background and her busted-ass face looks like the beginning of a snuff film if you ask me.

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    3. Re:Totally off topic by maotx · · Score: 1

      Probably was photoshopped off.
      Here is another one with a collar around her neck.

      And here is another one but nothing really telling there.

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    4. Re:Totally off topic by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      It appears those were handcuff chains. It's some German BDSM skank.

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    5. Re:Totally off topic by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      But what is wrong with this picture [wikimedia.org] (from one of the Wikipedia links above)? Is she some sort or slave woman whose chains were photoshopped from her legs but not all of her shadow? WTF?

      That's ... just ... bizarre.

      Why, with an internet full of pictures of women in swimsuits (or whatever you like), would someone go to the trouble of photoshopping out the cuffs just to use it in a wiki article?

      Someone made a funny joke I guess. Very odd indeed!

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    6. Re:Totally off topic by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Informative

      And here's an image of her that's a bit more telling....

    7. Re:Totally off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great now my day is ruined, I can stop thinking about slave woman cover-up conspiracies.

    8. Re:Totally off topic by bickerdyke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      definitly.

      http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:String_Bikini_(Jassi)_Front.jpg

      Same Model, different Bikini,chain around her neck :-)

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    9. Re:Totally off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I want to know is if these nanocrystals can explain how someone that plain-looking ever got to BE a "bikini model" in the first place!

    10. Re:Totally off topic by Deagol · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ugh. Is it me, or does that woman have a face like Odo?

    11. Re:Totally off topic by hesiod · · Score: 1

      It's the Internet: No one knows you're a dog... until the pictures are already published.

    12. Re:Totally off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you look closely at every bikini picture to 'check the shadow'?

    13. Re:Totally off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    14. Re:Totally off topic by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      My theory? Tampon string.

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    15. Re:Totally off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they took the time to photoshop the chains off, why didn't they do something about her face too? That's one UGLY chick.

    16. Re:Totally off topic by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Two comments on that:

      Firstly, the xahlee.org link results in a 403 if accessed directly from Slashdot. Copying the URL into a blank tab will allow access, though.

      Secondly, the second picture is somewhat indicative - the spread thighs are reminiscent of the nadu [NSFW], a position found in the atrociously bad Gor books by John Norman*. Some doms really like having their subs assume the nadu or similar positions as a sign of submission. (Disclaimer: I'm just an unusually well-informed vanilla, but publishing intimate details onf a dom/sub relationship goes quite well with some aspects of BDSM, so it's not hard to find info on what people like to do.)


      * Essentially bad SciFi with equally bad femsub mixed in. To get a glimpse of Norman's way with words, especially dialogue, read the parody Houseplants of Gor. Technically SFW, but of course parodying well-known BDSM texts.

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    17. Re:Totally off topic by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Ugh. Is it me, or does that woman have a face like Odo [wikimedia.org]?
      Hey, everyone has to make money somehow, even changelings. And now that DS9 is off the air...
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    18. Re:Totally off topic by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is going to make for very interesting server logs over at Wikimedia. "What the hell were they talking about on Slashdot?!"

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    19. Re:Totally off topic by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Why, with an internet full of pictures of women in swimsuits (or whatever you like), would someone go to the trouble of photoshopping out the cuffs just to use it in a wiki article?
      Because Wikipedia is a stickler for properly licensed images. Taking a random image from the web might open them up for litigation, so it's a no-no. The uploader probably thought: "Hey, I have this nice pic of Jassi in a bikini and chains. I'll just edit out the chains and Wikipedia gets a picture for their swimsuit article."

      Note that the model is also found in other WP pictures, most illustrating some form of bondage. They definitely didn't edit out the chains to make her look normal, they probably did it so the article stays child-safe.
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    20. Re:Totally off topic by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Because not many women are okay with being used to illustrate bondage topics on Wikipedia. As was already pointed out, the WP pictures she's usually found in accompany bondage articles. The bikini pic probably just happened to be available to the uploader and was edited to keep the article child-safe.

      Of course, responding to an AC troll is pointless, but still... Bikini models tend to look good because there are enough women applying for the job to allow one to select the best-looking ones. "Wikipedia bondage illustration model" is much less prestigious and well-paid, so you get fewer applicants and have to work with what you've got.

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  46. This might be great, but... by HiChris! · · Score: 1

    It wouldn't work well to go out in the hot sun hoping to get the armpit stick out of your shirt

  47. Let's see if I understand this.. by ghjm · · Score: 1

    Pizza goes on shirt. Sunlight activates catalyst. Catalyst causes a chemical reaction that decomposes the pizza into ... what? Organic gases?

    What does this smell like while operating?

    -Graham

  48. boy, this sure doesn't worry me by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    What, this stuff could have an adverse effect on human skin? Impossible. Since when have we ever rushed a poorly understood product to market with no consideration of future consequences?

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  49. Sounds scary! by prxp · · Score: 1

    Titanium dioxide is a strong photocatalyst and in the presence of ultraviolet light and water vapor, it forms hydroxyl radicals, which oxidize, or decompose, organic matter. "These nanocrystals cannot decompose wool and are harmless to skin," Translation:

    Titanium dioxide destroys organic matter, like your skin, which is btw immune to this destruction. They sure have to come up with a better advertisement text, because this one sounds just a bit scary.
  50. Finally. by jpellino · · Score: 1

    We can be done with this silly laundry nonsense and get on with the business of civilization!

    This sounds like the vacuum cleaner "revolution" - you spend the same amount of time cleaning your house in the year 2000 as you did in 1900.
    You simply go over the entire floor with a vacuum cleaner instead of a broom.
    And now in 2007 we spend the same time following the Roomba, putting missed pieces of dirt back in its path.

    Unless people were watching the washer and dryer as if they were TVs, this may not be any great gain to the average person.

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  51. The Man in the White Suit by ajm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ealing comedy (think Lavender Hill Mob, Lady Killers, Passport to Pimlico) from 1951. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044876/

    1. Re:The Man in the White Suit by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Great movie, though not as good as the Lavender Hill Mob. What's particularly interesting is that the this fictional fabric had exactly the same issues (durability, colors other than white) that are being raised with respect to this new fabric!

      Since this is Slashdot, it's worth mentioning that the star of these movies was Obi-Wan himself, Alec Guinness. Oddly enough, Sir Alec hated them, not so much on artistic grounds but because he felt that Ealing Studios treated its actors poorly. He was particularly pissed about shoddy safety measures during the shooting of Lavender Hill Mob, during which he nearly fell off the Eiffel Tower!

  52. Don't cut yourself. by damburger · · Score: 1

    Titanium dioxide can produce free radicals when it is decomposed in UV light. They can't penetrate your epidermis, but if there is broken skin you could be in a spot of bother as free radicals have quite an unpleasant effect on DNA.

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  53. Re:This must be what Star Trek uniforms are made o by Lurker2288 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not hard to keep the red shirts clean--people don't seem to wear them very long.

  54. breaks down organic matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it breaks down organic matter, what does it do to the wearer?

  55. What about comfort? by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 1

    I remember too well buying and attempting to wear a very open weave shirt that readily showed exposed my skin. Nonetheless, instead of being cooled, this shirt magnified the heat. As a result, I tore the shirt off and continued to play tennis exposed to the sun's rays. Despite the exposure and the subsequent burn I was more comfortable without a shirt than with it. Hence, the question arises, how does the even a thin layer of Titanium dioxide alter the pleasing sensation of cotton against human skin? I would guess towards the worse.

    Another aspect to consider, is that reactions leading to more stable, simpler end products have a net release of heat [of reaction]. Dirty clothing, combined with direct sunlight could make many people uncomfortable, as they come clean.

    Counter to my tastes, I have seen individuals wearing obvious synthetic clothing in hot environments, with no apparent sign of distress. Therefore, the market may be there, however, probably not appropriate to all.

  56. Similar, only a light bulb, by sunking2 · · Score: 1

    http://www.fresh2.com/ I actually have some of these as they were on sale at one of those sites that sells only CFLs and after rebate, etc, they were down to a price I thought was worth a try. In doing some research on whether to try them or not I did stumble upon one Japaneese study that basically took common smelling gases and stuck them in a contained area with one of these bulbs in them. Supposedly they did break down the gases into non ordorous compounds. The price was close enough that I gave them a shot. I placed two of them in the den which also houses the dog crates. I don't know if they work or not. It seems like they do but this is the sort of thing that is rather hard to say unless in a real test environment. Thinking on it, being winter and the house all closed in, I'd be inclined to purchase them again.

  57. Story excerpts: by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

    July '13 - Self-Cleaning Clothes Linked to Cancer, Impotence, Schizophrenia In a study funded by the Drycleaning & Laundry Institute, ....

    Aug. '13 - Self-Cleaning Clothes Health Study Flawed In a new study funded by the Washtec Scientific Institute, a study conducted in July was shown to be flawed ....

    Nov. '13 - Self-Cleaning Clothes: The Killer in your Closet Tonight on Dateline NBC: Your clothes may be KILLING YOU! A Dateline exclusive! Stay tuned after these messages! *cut to commercial* Dry cleaning: the real way to ensure your clothes stay clean. Hi! I'm Merideth Baxter-Birney. You might remember me as Alex P. Keaton's mom on the hit NBC show, Family Ties. I'm here to tell you that dry cleaning a safer, and healthier alternative to SCCs ...

    1. Re:Story excerpts: by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      Very nicely done, sir. Bonus points for referencing A.P.K., who is probably my all time favorite T.V. character.

      -Peter

  58. But will it also disolve the person??? by Soskywalkr · · Score: 2, Funny

    New innovative method for weightloss... Clothing that eats you alive - while you wear it.

  59. Basic cell biology by Stachybotris · · Score: 1

    Yeah, actually there's a huge difference in the structures of bacteria and people... Starting with the fact that humans don't have cell walls. Cell membranes, yes, but not cell walls. And the only eukaryotes that I can think of off the top of my head that do have cell walls are the fungi, and even then the structure is quite different (fungi have chitin in their cell walls, while bacteria don't).

    It really depends on whether the hydroxides are attacking fatty acids (which make up the overwhelming majority of the cell membrane) or proteins (which make up the bulk of the cell wall). My guess here is on the proteins.

  60. self-cleaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How great! Now if only they could come up with a self-cleaning solution for my ass.

  61. How Long Does the Decompostion Take by aquatone282 · · Score: 1

    . . . for marinara sauce and egg yolk?

    Just wonderin'. . .

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    What?
  62. Re:Pffft. If the clothing was smart by kat_skan · · Score: 1

    Oh ho! What makes you so sure that the fabric hasn't already advanced far enough to eat the entire research team, and is not issuing its own press releases advertising how miraculously wonderful and, of course, completely safe it is?

  63. Not buying it.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This has got to be a joke. It exudes free radicals that oxidize organic matter.... but it's safe to wear. Does that not sound right to anyone but me? I can hear it now.

    Mike: Have you seen Bill lately?
    Mary: Yeah. Poor guy. It's really too bad about the stage IV, ulcerated, cancerous lesions covering 40% of his skin.
    Mike: Yeah, but did you see his shirt? It looks great! It's so clean, even with the continuously oozing discharge! He's the best dressed patient in the Hospice ward.

    No thanks.

  64. Basic flaw for Slahsdot .. by cheros · · Score: 1

    .. it needs, umm, hang on, what was it again, ah, "sunlight". Is that the stuff that drives solar panels? :-)

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  65. But but.... by brkello · · Score: 1

    I'm organic. You think I am going to trust some crystal to know the difference between Thanksgiving dinner and my family jewels?

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  66. Life imitates art by ardent99 · · Score: 3, Informative

    There was a great movie about this subject made in the 50's called "The Man in the White Suit", with Alec Guinness. In the movie, a scientist invents a fabric that repels dirt and doesn't wear out. After initially being heralded as a hero, all the vested interests (pun unintended) in the world's textile and clothing industries think it will mean the end for them, and they want him dead. The movie might take on renewed relevance...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_White_Suit
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044876/

  67. Cleaning instructions on label by bryny · · Score: 1

    Do not put your SCC's where the sun never shines.

  68. Answer by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    what is wrong with this picture

    Her face.

    But that's just my opinion.

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  69. Hey, wait... I AM ORGANIC MATTER by macz · · Score: 1

    Won't these clothes decompose me given enough sunlight?

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  70. Re:This must be what Star Trek uniforms are made o by tmosley · · Score: 1

    Also, they don't show blood!

  71. Curious by Teflon_Jeff · · Score: 1

    I wonder how long it will be before these become a staple at gaming conventions?

    "d00d, I totally gamed for 36 hours without sleeping... and I didn't smell as bad as normal!"

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  72. Decomposittion? by Nick+Flandry · · Score: 1

    As if my deodorant didn't have enough challenges.

  73. Already done by whoever57 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was done in 1951.
    What's that you say, it was only a story? Perhaps it was and perhaps it predicted the outcome (not good for the inventor).

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  74. Not really suprising by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Informative
    Part of dying is to break down or "open up" the proteins or whatever in the fibres so that they can take up the dyes. If you don't do this the dye just washes off. This same process will also break down some other materials, including many stains, allowing them to be washed away.

    Protein based fibres (wool, feathers, silk etc) require different treatment than plant based fibres(cotton, hemp etc) because there's a need to "open up" different types of cells.

    For protein based dying (in a home/craft situation) it is common to use vinegar. Vinegar is also one of your great grandmother's go-to household cleaners.

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  75. Industry will kill it-"The Man in the White Suit" by five6seven8 · · Score: 1

    As seen in "The Man in the White Suit" (Alec Guinness, 1951), this invention will never get to market. The clothing industry will kill it because no one will have a need to buy new clothes.

  76. Too Late..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    If only Monica Lewinsky had a dress made from this self-cleaning fabric.....

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  77. Smell? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

    This sounds like it could be a process that would not smell pleasant, if you are walking around with decaying organic matter on your clothes.

  78. Back to the Future: by SonicSpike · · Score: 1

    What about power laces and self drying/fitting clothes?

    That should be here by 2025, right?

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  79. Re:This must be what Star Trek uniforms are made o by aibrahim · · Score: 1

    We don't put bullseyes on the redshirts anymore.

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  80. Re: Researchers Develop Self-Cleaning Clothes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pfft! I invented something similar 15 years ago. I call it Chantal. She calls me a lazy bum. I need to find me a girlfriend who shows me more respect (and doesn't mind washing some nasty undies).

  81. Sooo, you really mean that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...if I pee in these pants, all I have to do with hang them in the sun and then they are clean?

    Mmmmm, I have a trust issue with that.

    Of course the acid test would be after an bad case of expolsive diarrhea.

  82. like a 1951 movie? by mrego · · Score: 1

    See the Alec Guinness film The Man in the White Suit.... the textile industry might not like this.

  83. Soarmpitswillstillstink by Yazirical · · Score: 1

    what about your armpits, this idea seems stupid.

  84. What, no Alec Guinness references? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  85. Re:Pffft. If the clothing was smart by mstahl · · Score: 1

    I know! The same thing happened with my Roomba recently. I still shudder every time I hear a vacuum cleaner in the distance.