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Counterfeit Chips Raise New Terror, Hacking Fears

mattnyc99 writes "We've seen overtures by computer manufacturers to build in chip security before, but now Popular Mechanics takes a long look at growing worries over counterfeit chips, from the military and FAA to the Department of Energy and top universities. While there's still never been a fake-chip sabotage or info hack on America by foreign countries or rogue groups, this article suggests just how easy it would be for chips embedded with time-release cripple coding to steal data or bring down a critical network - and how that's got Homeland shaking in its boots (but not Bruce Schneier). While PopMech has an accompanying story on the possible end of cheap gadget manufacturing in China as inflation rates soar there, it's the global hardware business in general that has DoD officials freaking out over chips."

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  1. ARRRGH! TERROR! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    EVERYTHING is now a "terror threat".

    Do you suppose someone figured out that "terror" is a funding goldmine? That the way to ride this gravy-train was to pump up the volume on the "terror" megaphone?

    It's pretty funny - 'til the unintended consequences land you "in internal exile", or "extraordinary rendition".

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    1. Re:ARRRGH! TERROR! by corsec67 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just like how "think of the children" is a useful phrase for fucking over the American people's rights.

      "Free speech" - "Think of the children", by the FCC
      "Marijuana/drugs" - "Think of the children", by the DOJ

      So, combine "think of the children" and "terrorists", and the Constitution becomes irrelevant.

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    2. Re:ARRRGH! TERROR! by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 4, Funny

      What about child terrorists?

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    3. Re:ARRRGH! TERROR! by davester666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's already been done. The megaphone's that Homeland Security uses have already been hacked. They say "everything's fine" into the megaphone, but the evil terrorist's have hacked all of them so what comes out is "There's a terrorist everywhere, including inside your basement and inside your cellphone. You aren't safe anywhere."

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  2. The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 5, Informative
    There's been a problem for many years, in which bolts whose heads are marked to indicate that they are high-strength, are actually made from cheaper low-grade steel, and are therefor counterfeit.

    A construction worker was killed while torguing such a bolt while building the Saturn car factory. The head tore off and he fell to his death.

    In the same article where I read this, a general complained that you could find broken bolts littering the ground in the path of tanks on training maneuvers.

    There is a way to test bolts for strength, but it's expensive.

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    1. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would think this could be fixed by having an agreement with the manufacturer/provider that said they were financially liable if the material/product you received was not what you ordered.

    2. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by multisync · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A construction worker was killed while torguing such a bolt while building the Saturn car factory. The head tore off and he fell to his death.


      Where the hell was this plant being built? That worker should have been wearing fall protection.
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    3. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Expensive? We did this in lab in engineering. You pull on the bolt until it fails. If I was building something I'd test one out of every 100. Just grab a random one and test it. If it fails way early put the entire shipment into hold.

    4. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is a way to test bolts for strength, but it's expensive.

      More expensive than wrongful-death compensation? Someone must have amortized this.

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    5. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by arivanov · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is just for torque. This does not say anything about resistance to material fatigue and so on.

      Anyway, the only reason why Homeland Security is sh*** its pants on this is that the biggest spook sabotage achievement on USSR was apparently done this way when a gas pipeline blew up due to malfunctioning of counterfeit gear. However, we do not live in the 80-es. The computers and control gear has grown much more sophisticated and frankly, if anyone wants to plant such a bomb today they will do it in software. Much cheaper and much higher probability of success.

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    6. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by Serge_Tomiko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is one simple time honored solution:

      Execute every manager and owner of a company found to engage in such corruption.

      Such corruption strikes at the very heart of civilized society, and it should be punished with ferocious justice. It is time people in positions of authority answer for their incompetence with their lives.

    7. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by veganboyjosh · · Score: 4, Funny

      That worker should have been wearing fall protection.

      YEAH! They make these special bolts, which are super strong...oh wait.

    8. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would think this could be fixed by having an agreement with the manufacturer/provider that said they were financially liable if the material/product you received was not what you ordered. Which means insurance, testing, paperwork (in triplicate at a minimum), inspections, etc etc etc.

      That'll significantly add to the cost when your price per unit is measured in pennies.
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    9. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by bendodge · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That is too extreme. We can't even execute people who cut up 6-year-olds and put them in freezers.

      However, if executives were required to spend time IN JAIL, that might be pretty effective. Charging Mr. $$$$$$$$$ a few $$ isn't going to hurt him much. He needs to actually sit in a cell and have his photo taken for the newspaper.

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    10. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by ediron2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      seriously, since this sounds wrong (several ways), where do you say you read this and when?

      I've spent ten minutes googling combinations of bolt, shear, torque, substandard, high-strength, fell, factory, saturn, construction, osha, death, died, fall-hazard, snopes, urban-legend and a dozen other word combinations... no sign of this in or out of snopes.

      Testing precisely is expensive. Testing within an order of magnitude isn't: twist until the bolt-head shears. As for low-grade metal being substituted in, I know a few pipefitters that can do a so-so job identifying metal composition by looking at how the metal grinds and the color of the sparks coming off the grinder.

    11. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by whitehatlurker · · Score: 2, Informative

      This seems to corroborate the original story. I am sceptical as well, and would like to see more independent confirmation. Search

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    12. Re:The Counterfeit Bolt Problem by sincewhen · · Score: 2, Insightful
      There is a Chinese saying "The fish rots from the head."

      When corruption benefits those in power, why would they make any effort to stop it?

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  3. So maybe there is a market... by The+Ancients · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...for this, after all.

    The focus of comments through the article was that very few people had actually come across counterfeit chips, and the financial repercussions were limited. This shifts the focus to security, which does raise different questions

    1. Re:So maybe there is a market... by SlashWombat · · Score: 2, Informative

      The only counterfeit chips I have seen came from the "grey" market. The original manufacturer had obsoleted the device (an operational amplifier) but the project had been so long in development it was impractical to re-engineer a fully qualified design to use more modern parts. (Medical equipment takes a long time to get through all the relevant testing to ensure compliance!)

      So, the use of one of the many obsolete parts vendors (companies that specialise in the supply of older parts, often bought as excess stock from other companies clearing their warehouses).

      It goes without saying that many of these companies are based in Asia/China/Taiwan/Hong Kong. Anyway, many of these companies will attempt to source particular chips on request. Some requests are farmed out to a multitude of different third parties. ... In this case, a vedor replied to the request, saying they could supply x thousand of the devices in question.

      When the devices arrived, they were inserted into the required location on the pcb ... but boards would not pass final test. Chips had correct looking branding, but further checking showed that the faults were all due to these amps. Original manufacturer was supplied with samples and the result was it was a rebranded "generic" OpAmp.

      This is really only made possible because many opamps have the same pin outs. However, specifications vary between different types (IE: offset voltage, noise, gain, CMRR, bandwidth, etc)

  4. Digital Picture frames. by Lemental · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This was only the beginning. Cant wait until next holiday season.

  5. TFA by The+Living+Fractal · · Score: 3, Informative

    I didn't read TFA but is it suggesting that a highly advanced technology could be 'easily' counterfeited and delievered to US facilities? Assuming it would take another highly advanced country to do this... Doesn't this really mean war, not terror? If we find out a sovereign nation is attacking us through this channel I would call it war -- even if that means they are knowningly supplying terrorists with the chips instead of directly doing it themselves.

    The US DoD depending on the global hardware business is the scariest implication to me.

    And one more thing.. this almost sounds like it could be a back door for even stronger DRM technology, embedded in hardware, in our personal computers in the future. SO, how far off base am I this time?

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    1. Re:TFA by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you are pretty much right on target. An errant USB stick with malicious firmware could easily wait until it is plugged into a machine on a network with the desired domain name before releasing a small virus. It is not implausible, nor hard to understand this attack vector. That USB stick might be in the form of a cheap MP3 player.

      Without spraying details all over, there are many more ways to get a small piece of code inside a very secure facility, after which it's game on for the IDS system.

      Even if nothing is found in the wild like this, fear of it might indeed push DRM et al into all manner of devices.

      On the short list: Secure facilities should not be allowing electronic devices into their facilities. period. if they want to stay secure. No DRM should be trusted to fully do this job in such instances of security like are required for the Pentagon, military bases etc.

      Adding DRM to commercial and personal use devices will NOT... repeat NOT increase security.

    2. Re:TFA by blhack · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Terrorism is the new communism. Don't let the actual definition get in the way of people using this to incite fear.

      What we're talking about there is Cold war V2.0 with China.
      There is no shortage of people who theorize that Russia at one point might have been able to pull of some crazy hack that disabled all of our electronics using Tesla tech; what we're talking about here is an ACTUAL ability for China to do it.
      The real solution to this problem is to bring manufacturing back to the United States.

      Unfortunately this requires more regulation on American Companies.

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    3. Re:TFA by Broken+scope · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The government could also only buy components made in the untied states. Or at least the critical ones.

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    4. Re:TFA by Arioch5 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Being that I work for an engineering company which almost exclusively works on DoD contracts (or sub contracts). I can tell you first hand that DoD material does depend on global hardware companies. Almost any type of chip out there has a military rated version available. Heck there's even a term Military COTS (Military Commercial Off The Shelf), for items that are specifically designed for military use using readily available off the shelf parts. What I would ask you is how could you possibly expect the US DOD to actually design and manufacture the vast array of chips that are currently available on the commercial market? Could you imagine the cost involved in re-designing every commercial chip and supplying it locally here in the US? In the end the only way anyone could afford to produce military grade products is to design with commercial and Industrial parts as much as possible supplementing with Military grade where necessary. In the end, everything has to be certified to meet very strict military standards. Of course, I'm speaking in generalizations here. There are I'm sure some products that are very custom to the level of having almost no commercial/industrial parts. But I dobut you could find anything that didn't at least contain commercial/industrial passive parts (ie. resistors).

    5. Re:TFA by VValdo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Doesn't this really mean war, not terror?

      I think it would depend on the context. From TFA:

      However, not all experts agree that the risk is severe. After all, there's never been a report of a foreign country or criminal outfit using such technology to steal information or commit sabotage. (The United States did successfully conduct such a mission against the Soviet Union during the Cold War.)

      If I'm not mistaken, the mission they are referring to was in 1982, when the US let the Soviet Union "steal" software that helped run a natural gas pipeline. The Russians were in the habit of stealing US technology, so the US secretly embedded the software with code that would- when run- cause the pressure in the pipes and pumps to go sky-high.

      The result:

      "The result was the most monumental non-nuclear explosion and fire ever seen from space."

      Was this an act of war? Not really, since the code was stolen. Maybe sabotage. Terrorism? No, but it probably sent a message to the Kremlin that stealing foreign technology may not be a good idea...

      W

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    6. Re:TFA by robertjw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thing I don't get about this is the standards. Maybe general government use isn't the same, but back when I used to work for a company that made military equipment everything had to be to military specifications. Any changes had to be reviewed and approved by the DOD. I don't know if things have changed over the last 15 years, but this was a BIG deal then.

    7. Re:TFA by omegashenron · · Score: 2, Informative

      The NSA fabs its own processors at Fort Meade.

      Most of these other chips are general purpose and used in a wide range of commercial applications. The idea in investing in the additional infrastructure to produce components locally will mean more foreign debt for US, increased taxes and would probably fail in the long run since licensing costs of all the various chips out there used in defence/aerospace would kill you if your only serving the military (commercial organisations wont buy if they can source it cheaper elsewhere).

      Anyway, look at it this way, if there are security implications, the Government will dedicate resources to improving security and privacy which in turn may inhibit their ability to spy on citizens.

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  6. New terror is hacking fears by Jeremi · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Counterfeit Chips Raise New Terror, Hacking Fears


    Indeed... the "War on Terror" is nothing more than various groups of people trying use terror to "hack our fears". The terrorists try to hack our fears to gain power over us, and the governments fighting them do the same.

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  7. Five Words by sharp-bang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You get what you pay for.

    If you don't want counterfeit parts, pay for the appropriate controls and enforce them. The government has been trying to build government-class security and reliability on COTS technology for far too long.

    If that means domestic production, so be it.

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  8. Turnabout by Reader+X · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While there's still never been a fake-chip sabotage or info hack on America by foreign countries or rogue groups

    One wonders whether the reverse is true, and if so, why other countries are not freaking out about it...

  9. Keep manufacturing in the US by alextheseal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe if these parts are so critical we should keep the manufacturing in the US?

  10. That explains it! by boristdog · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was wondering why my new "Gatemay" computer had an "Inpel Inside!" sticker on it.

  11. More Word Games by joebob2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Define Counterfeit

    Isn't this hashing over the same deal where the "counterfeit" parts were really just unauthorized copies of a good board? How is it "Anti-Terrorism" to terrify the crap out of unsuspecting people with far-fetched hypotheticals?

    Articles like: "The danger of installing foreign designed, foreign made black boxes in our infrastructure" just sounds obvious, and the answer is obvious too: make your own boxes.

    These so-called but not-exactly-counterfeits are a problem caused by a lot of short-sighted business fads. Aggressive offshoring of design and manufacturing means that you are not in control of the product anymore. It also means that you killed off your local design and manufacturing, making it that much harder to solve the problem. If the "Counterfeit" uses full-spec parts, then are they really counterfeit? If they use crap parts, they will just break early, costing someone money. As far as a cyber-bot-net conspiracy, there are more realistic problems to worry about.

  12. NSA by guy5000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Doesn't the NSA make their chips domestically?

  13. Consensus of different implentations by scorp1us · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hardware is cheap, and there are always more than one way to skin a cat.

    Just do the same algorithm on different hardware architenctures and at least one different virtual machine implementations. (Use a minimum of three implementations!) Take the answer that two agree on and forward that on to the next step in the pipeline. It would be difficult if not impossible to produce a counterfeit chip that could produce undetectable deviations in both software and hardware machines.

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  14. Lou Dobbs? Is that You! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Clearly, this is the agenda of the piece. PopMech has been a fan press for the US arm industry since its inception "Look! A dive-bomber that will send Tojo to his divine reward!".

    They have seeded stories from Military and "Intelligence" sources for years.

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  15. the ongoing effort to make DRM mean security by fpgaprogrammer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the impetus for adding restrictions and obfuscations is most certainly NOT security in the DoD sense. methinks interested parties are trying to juxtapose priacy/DRM interests with security/terrorism concerns. there is no really good argument for increased in-silicon DRM as a means to end-to-end security except for the economic security of intellectuals and their property. the troubling aspect to any attempt at subverting counterfeit designs is that it encourages mechanism to obfuscate a digital design and decreases your freedom to know exactly what is happening to those electrons. such measures invariably decrease the overall security and reliability of the system by adding more complexity. an easily counterfeit-able design is also easy to verify. the converse is also true. truly safe systems must incorporate redundant standardized parts from multiple vendors to eliminate the effectiveness of malevolently embedded flaws.

  16. The CIA did this... by bockelboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Isn't this what the CIA did to the USSR? They purposely sold the Soviets Counterfeit CPUs and other technology so their economy would be based on faulty technology.

    In fact, it culminated in the mid 80's when a brand new pipeline was turned on with turbines taken from America via a Canadian intermediary. The turbines purposely malfunctioned and the resulting blast was about 1/4 the size of Hiroshima. Taking out such an important oil pipeline made a non-trivial dent in the Soviet economy.

    Look up the "Farewell Dossier".

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  17. Re:TFA... HOW can you call it war? by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the traditional sense?

    If the US government (by extension, the wealthy, the connected, the power brokers, then the consumers/prosumers) want cheap goods, then they will be made in China or elsewhere. If the US wants security to not be threatened by counterfeit goods (bads) then it OUGHT to SHUT UP and bite the bullet and manufacture ALL infrastructure-threat-capable electronics domestically.

    But, it can't. It can't because to do so would buck or contravene many conventions, trade acts, and agreements. If the US can't trust Asian producers, what makes it think it's safe trusting European producers? Only irrational comfort in color-based similarity and common heritage is probably all there is.

    So, the next best thing is for governments to stop dicking around and posturing as soft-enemies. If China never has to fear the US, then national or entrepreneurial counterfeits orders might not be a real problem. If the US stops trying to f*sking trying to be NUMERO UNO/Master-of-the-Universe, other nations might feel less threatened. If the US is less feared, sure, some will still try to exploit it, but that is best done economically, which is already the case: multiple hands from multiple nations and places from Dubai to Israel, to UK to Tokyo to Beijing, to Venezuela (oil, cheap oil) will have some tug and push on the US. Small, but definitely felt.

    All this just reminds me of the post by a sysadmin about 2 weeks ago who said as long as the counterfeits work until he's got his ROI, or as long as they don't crash or trash his network and as long as the only difference is in the serial numbers, then he doesn't care, because he saved money. Well, how can HE ever know his company's chips are not trojan chips? He's not likely to have Cisco come do an audit on the chip code or substrates or pins. He'd get fire if it's shown he knew and did nothing. Well, MAYBE he'd be fired.

    i wouldn't be surprised if 45% of US infrastructure and maybe the same of the EU and even Japan has been "infiltrated" (used not in the "evil" sense, but in the penetration sense) by counterfeit chips. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that prior to off-shoring chip plants to China that the US was sending "counterfeit" or infiltration chips to other nations. These companies probably did it at the bidding of the US government, under black ops national security project, which we'll never be able to prove nor disprove, given the secret accounting and multitudes of project names and cover names.

    So, in all, this is "touche", or Karma (good or bad) at work or in play.

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  18. It would be so easy to put a back door into AMT by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative

    The easy way to attack remote systems at the hardware level would be to preload a back-door key into Active Management Technology. All the hardware is already there to remote control the computer, without any help from the operating system. By default, this feature is supposed to be disabled. But a minor firmware change, initializing the AMT unit with a second hidden key instead of leaving it disabled, would make it possible to take over any corrupted machine from a level below the OS.

    AMT is the latest form of this, but there's also ASF (AMD's version), and RCMP (works over UDP, while AMT is a web service).

    This is tough to detect, short of cutting open the network controller chip and tracing the wiring with a scanning electron microscope. That's quite possible and tools for it exist, but it's not cheap.

  19. Another one for you by querist · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wanted to mod this up (funny), but I decided to comment instead...

    My brother has a Shrap calculator. (Yes, S-H-R-A-P, not Sharp). The lettering looks exactly like the lettering used by Sharp during that time period (1980s). He keeps it for the humor value.

    "From Shrap minds come shrap products..." :-)

    This kind of thing really does happen.

    1. Re:Another one for you by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny

      And thanks to all the explosive batteries in the cheap knockoffs, from shrap products comes shrap nel....

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  20. Smoke and Mirrors by frovingslosh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Absolutely. If there were any real threat of a problem here, it could easily be dealt with by very simple technology, but the major manufacturers seems to not want to do that and rather go off on a smoke and mirrors terror binge. Many CPUs have long had a unique serial number built into them. Intel even gained a lot of consumer wrath when they wanted to use this ID to make it easier for every Internet advertiser to track you and amass more personal data about you. But they never made it easy for the user to benefit from this serial number.

    Rather than wail and moan about supposedly fake chips, what the manufacturers should do is put on-line the database of valid serial numbers and their specs and history and let end users have access to this information and even add to the database (if they so choose) their ownership of a serial number. This would have several benefits: Fake chips would have a problem of not having a large pool of valid serial numbers (it would be easy enough to not have the database expose the entire list, and limit the number of chips that could be looked up by any IP in a short time) and if fake chips all used the same ID this could be quickly detected. Users could also confirm that the specs for the chip they bought were the specs the manufacturer intended, preventing the practice or remarking chips for higher clock frequencies. A user who desired it could have a lot of confidence that is chip was not counterfeit just by checking into the database and learning what the manufacturer knew about his chip. Chips with serious bugs that were recalled would be detected easily without alarming users of unaffected chips. And this could even provide a service of letting one register their CPU serial number, if they wanted the computer to be able to be look up by law enforcement or others later in the case of theft. That this isn't already being done, yet the industry is acting like counterfeit chips are a big problem, seems to be telling me something is bogus about their claims of doom.

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  21. Hackers are cheapskates too... by Stochastism · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This kind of illicit technology is usually (not always) about making a buck. It's cheaper to exploit software than physical chips.

    Fix the world's software and then those industrious rogues might decide the expense and lengthy process of counterfitting physical chips is worthwhile compared to a quick piece of spyware.

  22. Already been done, but it's difficult by smellsofbikes · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the early 1980's, the US produced intermittently buggy chips which we sold to the USSR in full knowledge that they'd disrupt production facilities. It worked very well. Why, then, wouldn't China do the same thing?

    As someone who works in chip verification, I can tell you it's very difficult with most chips to do this, as long as the chips are designed in the US -- which is still largely the case, that they're designed here and produced in fabs in China (because labor's cheap and they don't care if their workers are exposed to HF and silane as long as money's coming in.)
    You know *exactly* what size your chip die is. If the silicon comes back from the fab with a different-sized die, it will be very obvious. So nobody can put extra stuff onto an existing die. Die size is the single most critical aspect of most designs, because of the cost, so existing designs are jammed just as tightly as they can possibly be. You can't put more functionality into an existing die size. The problem, then, is letting your design out. (And even then, a competent chip designer could probably spot strange material on a smaller die because they're familiar with how the layout is supposed to look.)
    There are some amazing military-grade chips out there. I was reading about the Maxim DS3600 the other day -- on-chip encryption and tamper-sensing, including detecting temperature changes and reacting by blanking all the on-board memory and stored encryption keys in nanoseconds, far faster than dumping liquid helium onto the chip would be able to freeze the memory for decoding. (They use some whack process for continually load-levelling and rewriting the keys so you can't use stored oxide charge to read what was there before it got blanked, either.) That kind of stuff is on the common market, available for anyone to buy. I assume the military has better stuff yet, and espionage people even better.
    At the end of the day you have to be able to trust someone or you'll just crouch in your basement. But there are ways to verify a chip's functionality and look for clearly bogus interactions. Our chip test systems make it easy to distinguish chips from different silicon lots, much less from different fabs. As always, if you buy the cheap stuff you don't know what you're getting, but if you spend the money to do some research, you'll have a much, much better idea of what you're getting. In this case, money in the millions of dollars, granted, but if you're designing military-grade stuff, well, that's why you buy from companies with a track record of producing trustworthy stuff.

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    1. Re:Already been done, but it's difficult by Mike1024 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      existing designs are jammed just as tightly as they can possibly be. You can't put more functionality into an existing die size. [...] I was reading about the Maxim DS3600 the other day -- on-chip encryption and tamper-sensing, including detecting temperature changes and reacting by blanking all the on-board memory and stored encryption keys in nanoseconds, far faster than dumping liquid helium onto the chip would be able to freeze the memory for decoding. It's true that it would require extra space or rearrangement to add, say, a keylogger to a USB keyboard.

      But it would require only a handful of malformed vias among millions to make your 'military grade' memory-wiping electronics get stuck at 'do not wipe' and your built-in test hardware get stuck at 'no problem'.

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    2. Re:Already been done, but it's difficult by LM741N · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well said. It is also extremely difficult to test microprocessors with millions of transistors. Same with memory. For consumer applications you can only afford small test coverage, otherwise the chip would cost $10,000. But like said above the military spends quite a bit of money for a lot of test coverage, but even they can't test everything.

  23. Counterfeit chips not required by OTDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One can find genuine reason to be worried with the US military without ever worrying over a problem so clever as counterfeit chips. US DoD has routinely exhibited worrisome practices for years.

    I work in the field of modeling & simulation supporting training and flight testing for the Army. Time and again when I've tried to find an ICD (interface control document) or spec on a low-level protocol for some box on an Apache Longbow in the end it discovered that the Government never bought said document from the manufacturer (McDonnell-Douglas, or now, Boeing). Each thing is simply an LRU (line-replaceable unit) black box whose innards are irrelevant -- the I/O is documented but when they fail the box goes back to the vendor for repair. And if you want the specs, call Boeing and they'll be happy to talk sales. US DoD acts this way in the name of "cutting costs" and the up-front bottom line probably is lower. For US companies, such as Boeing, this is no big deal since we're more or less all on the same team.

    Now, flash forward -- DoD is increasingly awarding aircraft contracts to non-US companies. Take the recent US Army LUH (Light Utility Helicopter) that went to EADS North America (or the Airforce tanker contract that went likewise to EADS). This same cost-cutting "don't need this spec or that spec" mentality is still used. Now you have entire military aircraft being delivered with large-scale black boxes (easier to build than counterfeiting chips) which are potentially just as rogue. Who's to say there's no malicious firmware in there? No one seems to be looking or caring. Can anyone prove that any given system isn't poised to intentionally upon receipt of some pre-planned stimuli?

    There's a lot more to worry about than "terrorists" -- mindless bureaucrats can be just as dangerous. The funny thing here is the opposition I've run into pushing for the adoption of Open Source tools. Despite a few agencies here and there employing Open Source with great success, a few memos of "endorsement," and a few official studies touting value, most DoD bureaucrats can't get past the "source is open to 'hackers' therefore must be a security threat" mentality.

    Department of Dumbasses, your US tax dollars at work.

  24. 24 years on... by lazy_nihilist · · Score: 2, Informative
  25. Profit! by layer3switch · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Terror
    2. Religion
    3. ...
    4. Profit!

    I'm John McCain, and I approve this message.

    --
    "Don't let fools fool you. They are the clever ones."
  26. You mean to tell me... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Only now do they see (the American government) the folly at sending out everything to be outsourced in china??? Come on guys, you pay yourselves big salaries at our expense then you realize your mistake by sending everything overseas to have the "cheaper price" but don't even realize that now the Chinese can control all pcs with the click of a button....should they so choose to?

    "Sad but true"