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Stored Data to Exceed 1.8 Zettabytes by 2011

jcatcw writes "By 2011, there will be 1.8 zettabytes of electronic data stored in 20 quadrillion files, packets or other containers because of, among other things, the massive growth rate of social networks, and digital equipment such as cameras, cell phones and televisions, according to a new study by IDC. Data is growing by a factor of 10 every five years. According to John Gantz, IDC's lead analyst, "at some point in the life of every file, or bit or packet, 85% of that information somewhere goes through a corporate computer, website, network or asset," meaning any given corporation becomes responsible for protecting large amounts of data that it and its customers may not have created. The study, which coincided with the launch of a " digital footprint" calculator, also found that as the world changes over to digital televisions, analog sets and obsolete set-top boxes and DVDs "will be heaped on the waste piles, which will double by 2011.""

143 comments

  1. That is a lot of... by sleeping123 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Porn

    1. Re:That is a lot of... by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      , and other usenet binaries, and the world's torrents.. all downloading through your ISP, which is a corporation. Anything on the internet comes through corporations- ISPs. How is that 85% figure surprising?

    2. Re:That is a lot of... by darrinallen · · Score: 1

      That is a lot of storage. I wonder how many BYTES GOOGLE currently has stored

    3. Re:That is a lot of... by mikael · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some of the data transfers really seems wasteful. I download a Linux DVD ISO file, burn it onto a DVD, install the system on a new hard disk drive, then download another couple of Gigabytes of updates. Wouldn't be simpler to just have an installation DVD that creates a minimal system which then downloads the latest version of each module.

      And that DVD is really only used once and then forgotten about.

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    4. Re:That is a lot of... by beckerist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_platform

      # Upwards of 450,000 servers ranging from a 533 MHz Intel Celeron to a dual 1.4 GHz Intel Pentium III (as of 2005)
      # One or more 80GB hard disks per server (2003)
      So at least using these numbers, let's say on average they have 120gb per server (1 and a half, 80 GB drives...) That would mean they have 54,000 TBs or 54 PBs. I'm sure they have even more now, but as a point of reference! Yes, Google has a finite amount of space!

    5. Re:That is a lot of... by phyrestang · · Score: 5, Informative

      Try installing Gentoo Linux. The current minimal installer for x86 is about 57MB. The rest is downloaded during the installation.

    6. Re:That is a lot of... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember when you could do a network install from two floppies...

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    7. Re:That is a lot of... by NCG_Mike · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Documentaries".

    8. Re:That is a lot of... by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 1

      At least it would give me someplace to put all that data I downloaded from Concast over the last four years.

      Let's see. My family is supposed to be consuming about 300 Gigs a month on the average according to Concast that is.

      So 300gigs times 12 months over four years.... WTF!!

      that's a lot of data. Where the hell have I been putting it! ;-)

      Guess I should purchase the new drives when they come out ;-)

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    9. Re:That is a lot of... by stuporglue · · Score: 2, Informative
      You can still do it with one floppy :

      http://damnsmalllinux.org/network-install.html

      • Get TOMSRTBT and boot it
      • Configure network
      • Download install script
      • Download image and use install script
      Debian has a 5-floppy installer still as well : http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/
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    10. Re:That is a lot of... by Fission86 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to belittle your cause at all, but who still uses floppies any more?

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    11. Re:That is a lot of... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      Not to belittle your cause at all, but who still uses floppies any more?
      I just picked up a 2.4Ghz Xeon workstation that my office was throwing out. It still works but the CD player has been removed for use in another machine. I want to put Fedora on it.
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    12. Re:That is a lot of... by ryszard99 · · Score: 1

      netboot assuming you have a network to boot from that is.. :-)

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    13. Re:That is a lot of... by IdleTime · · Score: 1

      54PB? Ok, make a tape copy and mail it to me so I have a local copy just in case...

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    14. Re:That is a lot of... by d3ac0n · · Score: 3, Funny

      Umm.. CD players can be had for as little as $10.00 USD. What's stopping you from getting one?

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    15. Re:That is a lot of... by houghi · · Score: 1

      openSUSE is 73MB for network installation.

      The fact that after it is done, it coult be several tens of GB large means nothing, I asume.

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    16. Re:That is a lot of... by pchoppin · · Score: 0

      You're modded 5, Funny??? For that???

      Dude.. how do you get mods like that? I really need decent mod points. Please tell me!

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    17. Re:That is a lot of... by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 1

      "Google has a finite amount of space!" Yes but there might be a million Googles.

      I think the article is bunk. Let's say we can store a bit in the space of just one atom. As storage grows at some point the entire Earth is covered 1 foot deep in atom sized bits. Then in 100 more years the stacked of bits reached past the orbit of the moon. This will never happen.

      I think when people look back at the 21st century they will see it as a period when storage grew fast and then ettled down to a stedy state. Exponential growth is never sustainable.

      Try this experiment: Pump the air out of a small tank now open the valve. At first the air rushes in very fast but over time the rate slows and finally it stops. But a person looking at the inrush of air in the first few seconds might think that all of the air on Earth might get sucked into the tank and panic. What we have right now is the first stages of a "data vacuum" there is a big in-rush at present.

    18. Re:That is a lot of... by danpsmith · · Score: 1

      I remember when you could do a network install from two floppies...

      Yeah and I remember when moonpies were a nickel, and someone besides old grampas knew what the hell a moonpie was.

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    19. Re:That is a lot of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      easy...say something funny, insightful, interesting, or informative. Don't use extra punctuation. That's about it.

    20. Re:That is a lot of... by leenks · · Score: 1

      Most sane distributions let you do this if you want to (Ubuntu/Debian, Gentoo etc). Live CDs or full basic installation CDs are attractive for lots of reasons though (eg if you need a machine for a closed LAN environment and don't want to download the entire package repository)

    21. Re:That is a lot of... by bryguy5 · · Score: 1

      Oh no! we might run out of 1's and 0's!

    22. Re:That is a lot of... by mikael · · Score: 1

      It might be possible to boot off a memory stick - most of the laptops in the shops don't have floppy disk drives, but they do have memory stick slots.

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    23. Re:That is a lot of... by beckerist · · Score: 1

      Just a thought, but once quantum entanglement is more fully understood we could have data storage centers on the moon with instant retrieval! Hell, we could even eventually use the "moon atoms" to be a harddrive...

  2. Riiight by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "as the world changes over to digital televisions, analog sets and obsolete set-top boxes and DVDs"

    That's what I plan on doing. I'm going to throw out all my DVDs and buy the Blu-Ray equivalent.

    Or maybe I'll just keep the DVDs (and the player) and buy whatever cable adapters I need to get them working on these newfangled devices.

    1. Re:Riiight by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Informative

      What, are you kidding? Blu-ray has horrifying DRM and doesn't really look that much better than DVDs with good postprocessing. I'd never even think of supporting DRMed blu-ray.

    2. Re:Riiight by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Get a decent TV. There's a massive difference between DVD and Bluray.

      DRM? Who cares. I'm not planning on copying 20gb+ disks.

    3. Re:Riiight by CaptnMArk · · Score: 1

      I'll wait until DRM is cracked (especially region coding).

    4. Re:Riiight by Aenoxi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Please mod parent up. If I had a nickel for every person who spouted that same upscaled DVD tripe, then, then, then I'd have enough to buy a Blu Ray disk ;)

      There is a world of difference between 1080p and DVD quality - but you'll never see it if your TV can't natively display 1080p (or at least 720) or you use a composite video interconnect rather than HDMI/DVI or component (yes, I know, but you'd be surprised how many people still do...)

      Whilst I can imagine that a true 1080p picture might look similar to upscaled DVD on a small screen (which necessarily has very small dot pitch), the difference becomes clear as you scale up the screen beyond 30 inches or so (and bleeding obvious once you get beyond 42"). Interpolation and post-processing can only get you so far. Notwithstanding CSI, even high-end upscaling cannot create genuine detail that didn't exist in the original image - and the more post-processing you do, the more artifacts you are going to see.

      I've been running a Pioneer BR player via HDMI to a 1080p 60" plasma for 6 months and whilst upscaled DVD is nice, it can't hold a candle to the 1080 BR picture. Double blind test anyone on a similar system and there's no way you'd get anything but a 100% success rate of identifying HD BR vs upscaled DVD.

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    5. Re:Riiight by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 1

      I was a joke. I was pointing out how dumb it would be to throw out all your DVDs and buy a bunch of overpriced discs just because they're the new thing.

      *WHOOOSH*

    6. Re:Riiight by Firehed · · Score: 1

      Some early Blu-Ray players are incapable of playing the latest discs because of DRM. Plenty of the first HDTVs will force your overpriced HD content to be downscaled to SD because they don't support HDCP, as soon as they start using ICT.

      I'd say DRM matters, no matter whether you plan to copy discs or not. Probably more so than to the pirates, as usual.

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    7. Re:Riiight by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Insightful
      DRM? Who cares. I'm not planning on copying 20gb+ disks.

      I would have said that about DVDs not so long ago. Disk space and bandwidth become cheaper with time.

      And besides copying, a DRM crack allows me to play discs on the operating system of my choice, to extract small parts of the feature for purposes of review, criticism or parody, and to bypass any annoying previews, trailers, propaganda, threats, or other junk that the studio may have seen fit to prepend to the show.

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    8. Re:Riiight by TummyX · · Score: 1


      Blu-ray has horrifying DRM and doesn't really look that much better than DVDs with good postprocessing


      You are talking out of your ill-informed inexperienced ass. There is a high degree of probability that you haven't actually seen a hi-def video on a hi-def TV but let's examine your assertion anyway.

      You are saying that there is not much difference between 1920x1080p and a 720x480i picture. Think about it. I'm interested to know more about this "good postprocessing" that can somehow make DVD even approach the quality of any HiDef source.

    9. Re:Riiight by Hatta · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I don't even care enough about high fidelity imagery to wear my glasses day to day. The resolution of a normal TV is plenty for me.

      High fidelity audio however is an entirely different story.

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    10. Re:Riiight by smallfries · · Score: 1

      You're not quite putting it in the right terms for the slashdot audience. How about:

      When you download a 5Gb Blue-Ray Rip it will look much better than a 1Gb DVD rip if you play it on the right equipment. The right equipment being a display to do it justice, and mplayer to do the upscaling nicely :)

      Seriously though, on reading your post I'm shocked by just how much hassle everything is using legal components. We got our TV cheaply as it wasn't "HD-Ready". Apart from the lack of sticker it does do 1280x1024 stretched onto 16:9, and mplayer can do bicubic interpolation in software, so for our purposes it was high-def. Plays 720p wonderfully.

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    11. Re:Riiight by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Two replies, pretty unusual! Your sig is excellent. When you say paraphrased did Godel say something quite similar (which I couldn't find on Google), or do you literally mean that it paraphrases Godel's work. I'm just curious as it's a very cool quote and I was wondering whether I should attribute it to Godel, or to you.

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    12. Re:Riiight by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Yah, blu ray is just insane. Have fun with your giant TV- my montior is higher resolution, and my thinkpad is certainly cheaper than your plasma or LCD tv. HDMI cables are crazy expensive and you don't have the freedom to run them through a tivo or STB-- seriously, running everything through a nice set top box or media PC has been de facto since the VCR days, and you're just putting up with that freedom being taken away? Also TVs suck more power than overclocked nvidia cards so there's even more cost. Why would you pay so much more for 1080p? It's the same video, and you're selling your soul for extra resolution.

    13. Re:Riiight by somersault · · Score: 1

      What, are you kidding? Blu-ray has horrifying DRM Were you planning on storing all your blu-ray movies on a file server at up to 50GB a pop (I have a 500GB NAS box at home and I think that would struggle to contain all my DVDs - which include a few TV series' - even if they were compressed)? It's not like the DRM isn't easily cracked anyway, what are you complaining about? Plus, how exactly does upscaling a picture compare with actual extra resolution? I've yet to buy my PS3 and try out the upscaling of course, but between an anti-aliased&sharpened/whatever SD image with an original 'HD' res image, I know which I'd choose.. of course I have a full 1080p set so most 'standard' TV looks like garbage atm, but that could be down to the broadcast quality
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    14. Re:Riiight by zymurgyboy · · Score: 1

      Have fun with your giant TV- my montior is higher resolution, and my thinkpad is certainly cheaper than your plasma or LCD tv.
      Try sitting across a 16' x 20'(or larger) living room from you monitor with a dozen of your friends sometime and then maybe an investment in a wall-mounted LCD or plasma screen might start to make more sense.

      HDMI cables are crazy expensive and you don't have the freedom to run them through a tivo or STB-- seriously, running everything through a nice set top box or media PC has been de facto since the VCR days, and you're just putting up with that freedom being taken away?
      I beg to differ. My Series3 Tivo is presently hooked to my 42" HD LCD with the HDMI cable that came with it. The total package would run about $1300 now. Less than my MacBookPro by about $700.
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    15. Re:Riiight by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but our tv isn't huge. It's only 28" so we got it for £500 a few years back ($1000?) It's comfortable for us to watch on the couch, but it's just as convenient for us to curl up in bed and watch movies on my macbook. The guy who replied to you has a point about tv sizes and groups of people, but for day to day stuff we don't need a monster 42" tv. For when we are watching movies with friends it would make sense to get a giant screen just for those occasions - projectors are getting much cheaper and the contrast is getting better.

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    16. Re:Riiight by zymurgyboy · · Score: 1
      I have the dozen-or-so friends over once or twice a week, sometimes more. Nice, because I still get to hang out with all of them and don't have to get a babysitter. I provide nice TV viewing/their cable tv fix in exchange for company and the food they bring over. Everyone wins!

      You've got a point about the projector, but it wouldn't work in my place. I don't have a good place to put it where it would still project onto a suitable wall without doing some serious remodeling. Even it I did, I have TV parties too often to want to drag out and hook up a projector. Of course, YMMV.

      My LCD also has a couple game consoles and my "server" hooked to it full-time and switching between the sources is as simple as hitting the Input button on the Tivo remote. You could probably do something similar using a projector as your display if you have a better receiver than I do to run everything through (second hand for $80 but does 5.1 surround sound for everything and has a built-in DVD player & AM/FM tuner), but then it's nice to have the PIP options the TV has occasionally as well. Since it's wall-mounted with an adjustable mounting arm, I can pull the display out or angle it for optimal viewing from different locations in the room easily as well. And all the wires run through a couple sets of grommets behind the component rack and display so it all appears wire-free. It's turned out to be a very nice, convenient little setup for the money.

      In spite of all that, my daughter still stands two feet away from it when Sesame Street is on though. :^)

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    17. Re:Riiight by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      I've got a new Sony receiver with 3 HDMI inputs on it. I still have my one remote home theatre setup.

    18. Re:Riiight by wolrahnaes · · Score: 1

      If you're buying your cables from Best Buy or Radio Shack, no matter what it is it's crazy expensive because you're getting ripped off.

      Take a look at monoprice or Blue Jeans Cables. Both are highly regarded on AVS Forum, SA's A/V Arena, and other large home theater forums while charging prices that have a lot more to do with reality. Last time I checked, a 25 foot HDMI cable at Best Buy was in the $200 range. The same length can be had for between $25 and $75 from Blue Jeans or $15 to $50 from monoprice. Both of those places offer multiple grades of cable that correspond with real specs and ratings rather than typical audiophile garbage, and the prices fit for the quality. The Monster Cable model sold by Best Buy will fall roughly equal to the $25-30 range parts from either of these companies.

      As for price and quality, sure my Macbook Pro and my desktop both beat the 720p resolution of my projector, but I've spend a total of $2100 on the home theater including every game system but the Wii while also having HD Satellite, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, and an Apple TV. Both of my computers combined total up to around $3000 and can not play HD movies or watch HDTV (I do have a USB analog tuner which works on both).

      On top of that, a 15 or 20" screen, no matter how high resolution it is, coupled to desktop speakers can in no way compete with a 110" projected image being backed up by 1000 watts of 8 speaker surround sound.

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    19. Re:Riiight by JonathanR · · Score: 1

      Try sitting across a 16' x 20'(or larger) living room from you monitor with a dozen of your friends sometime My basement is not that big, you insensitive clod!
    20. Re:Riiight by Aenoxi · · Score: 1

      Heh, thank you!
      I'd forgotten about my sig - I usually browse with sigs turned off.
      You know I really can't remember where it came from - part of me remembers making it up after a stroke of inspiration one boring afternoon in the office, but with hindsight, it's way above my usual dreary levels of prose and therefore I suspect I stole it from someone else - although I'm very sure it wasn't Godel!

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  3. Y2k300! by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D · · Score: 5, Funny

    If, like the summary (but not the article for some reason) states, total data is growing by a factor of 10 every 5 years, then somewhere around the year 2300 we'll have 10^80 bits stored. The number of elementary particles in the known universe is estimated to be between 10^79 and 10^81. Seems we're kind of screwed at that point.

    1. Re:Y2k300! by Spad · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just Zip everything, it'll be fine.

    2. Re:Y2k300! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1, Funny

      ZIP the ZIP'd file for even better space savings.

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    3. Re:Y2k300! by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, is Y2k300 a shorthand way of writing 2300?

    4. Re:Y2k300! by BotnetZombie · · Score: 1

      That would be the Big Crunch then. The Big Bang should perhaps be called the Big Unzip?

    5. Re:Y2k300! by jonas_jonas · · Score: 1

      If, like the summary (but not the article for some reason) states, total data is growing by a factor of 10 every 5 years, then somewhere around the year 2300 we'll have 10^80 bits stored. The number of elementary particles in the known universe is estimated to be between 10^79 and 10^81. Seems we're kind of screwed at that point.

      And then: Wait for the absolute information meltdown!

      It is in one of Stanislaw Lem's stories, where a scientist collects as much information as he can on a supercomputer, until the computer is a few microgram heavier: The Information changed into mass and destroyed itself. The human race collected information only to "inform themselves back stone age".

      Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the story, probably it's one of the Star Diaries but I am not sure...

    6. Re:Y2k300! by F�an�ro · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure the title was "Professor A. Donda"

    7. Re:Y2k300! by xant · · Score: 1

      I know you meant this to be a joke, and you got the +5 Funny mod to prove it, but I'd like to share that it really doesn't work like that.

      The representation of information doesn't use any matter whatsoever. The concrete representation may be any reliable organization of the matter it relies on, to as many possible permutations as that matter is capable of being configured into. It should be obvious that you can represent 10^80 things without 10^80 elementary particles.. for example, you just did, when you typed "10^80". :-) Our brains are another perfect example: between 50bil-150bil cells, a relatively small number (the transistors in a CPU are slowly approaching that point), capable of representing a virtually limitless interlocking, overlapping arrangement of information.

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    8. Re:Y2k300! by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1

      ZIP the ZIP'd file for even better space savings. ...and then store them on zip disks!

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    9. Re:Y2k300! by jonas_jonas · · Score: 1

      *ah* thanks! That's right!

    10. Re:Y2k300! by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D · · Score: 1

      It should be obvious that you can represent 10^80 things without 10^80 elementary particles

      I'll accept that this is true.

      for example, you just did, when you typed "10^80". :-)

      This, however, is comically untrue. From an information theory standpoint, "10^80" contains just a couple bits (I'm too lazy to do the calculation to determine exactly how much information it contains). I'm sure you can appreciate that "a couple" is less than 10^80.

      Our brains are another perfect example: between 50bil-150bil cells, a relatively small number (the transistors in a CPU are slowly approaching that point), capable of representing a virtually limitless interlocking, overlapping arrangement of information.

      Here's an experiment for you: take a complete ignoramus, person A, and a wealth of information, person B. Give person A information to Wikipedia. No ask them random trivia questions and see who does better. Hypothesis: the brain is a terrible information storage medium. While it's great that the brain has interesting computational properties, that's not the topic at hand. The topic at hand is storing information. The brain is not terribly great at storing information.

      While it may be possible to store multiple bits of information using a single particle (I don't know, I'm not a physicist), we're nowhere near being able to do that yet.

  4. Well yes... by theM_xl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    85% of that information somewhere goes through a corporate computer, website, network or asset That's all? I mean, a good deal will be created by corporations in the first place, all the major bits of internet infrastructure belong to one corporation (for-profit or not) or another, the post office is a corporation... 85% seems low, actually.
    1. Re:Well yes... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      Well under 15% of my data is personal photos, music, and reports. Probably something like 1% of the stuff on my computer is personal (5GB)

      Even my sisters computer only had a gig or so of personal data, with 8 times that is installed programs, and then the music...

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    2. Re:Well yes... by Dan+East · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know about that. Imagine all of the digital pictures taken that never travel outside the home user's computer, memory card or CDs. Even more important, consider the amount of digital video data generated by home users with their camcorders. A single 60 minute Mini-DV tape is in the neighborhood of 15 GB. That's one single tape, and my family alone has dozens of them just from a single year. Even if those videos are uploaded to the internet, they must first be converted to some other format that has a vastly lower bitrate. So the original gigabytes of data still never touches corporate infrastructure - only the small, crappy quality encodings that end up on YouTube.
      They might also be counting swap files and hibernate files. In the case of hibernate files, a computer with 2 GB RAM generates 2 GB of data every time it hibernates.

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    3. Re:Well yes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A single 60 minute Mini-DV tape is in the neighborhood of 15 GB.

      Yeah, the DV codec at 25Mbit/sec is not very efficient. You could store that with a newer codec like XVid at around 800Kbit/sec and get the same quality and resolution. Which is about a 30:1 compression ratio compared to the original DV tape. (So about 500MBytes per hour.)

      If you're not too overly picky about quality and the source is clean, you could probably even push down to 600Kbit/sec and get close to a 40:1 ratio.

  5. The worse part? by peragrin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is that half of it will be copies of Windows Vista, XP, a few hundred Linux distro's.

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  6. that's a meagre.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (1.8 zettabytes) / 20 quadrillion = 103.762935 kilobytes

    Not that much per file really

  7. But what we really want to know is.... by Dachannien · · Score: 1

    ...how many gigaquads is that?

    1. Re:But what we really want to know is.... by ben0207 · · Score: 1

      More importantly, how many floppies is that (3s or 5s, if you please)?

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    2. Re:But what we really want to know is.... by oni · · Score: 4, Funny

      no no no, the proper term for journalists to use is library of congresses. Even though I've never been to the library of congress and have no idea how big or small it might be, large amounts of data should always be given in those units.

    3. Re:But what we really want to know is.... by innit · · Score: 1

      > no no no, the proper term for journalists to use is library of congresses I know you'll probably flame me for this, but it's a personal bugbear. It's "libraries of congress", dammit.

    4. Re:But what we really want to know is.... by innit · · Score: 1

      Gah and there I go forgetting to select the correct formatting. I'll get my coat.

    5. Re:But what we really want to know is.... by JonathanR · · Score: 1

      Is that when rendered in ASCII, HTML or Silverlight?

  8. Which definition of a zetabyte? by EricR86 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since we're talking very large orders of magnitude it would help to know what definition of zetabyte they're using.

    2^50 bytes or 10^15 bytes?

    The former is astronomically larger.

    1. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by EricR86 · · Score: 2, Informative

      2^50 bytes or 10^15 bytes? What I really meant was: 2^70 bytes or 10^21 bytes? Pfft. Only a few orders of magnitude... :|
    2. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by pipatron · · Score: 4, Funny

      If by "astronomically larger" you mean 12.6%, then I'm astronomically larger than the average Indonesian male.

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    3. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by sapphire+wyvern · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At the risk of being modded down, isn't that distinction the whole point of the IEC's "zebibyte" proposal?

      Anyway, most measurements of mass storage (bandwidth quotas, hard disk capacity etc) seem to measured in actual megabytes (MB), gigabytes (GB) etc, as opposed to binary megabytes (MiB), binary gigabytes (GiB) and so on. Binary byte prefixes only seem to be used for RAM and flash these days, presumably because of the convenient manufacturing realities involved - and I really wish that manufacturers of those products would get with the program and label their products with unambiguous units.

      So I assume the estimate means 10^15 bytes.

    4. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In theory, yes. In practice, the whole Zebibyte thing is complete nonsense. Everyone other than hard drive manufacturers has been using the SI prefixes to refer to power of two quantities when referring to binary data for 40 years. Attempting to redefine them retroactively just causes confusion. If I see something that says KB, and don't know when it was written, I have no idea if it pre or post-dates the KiB nonsense and so I have no idea if it refers to 1024 or 1000 bytes.

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    5. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by xaxa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you're better off if someone does use the proper prefix then. Without it, KB could mean either. With it, at least you know what kiB means, so you're definitely right some of the time.

    6. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by EricR86 · · Score: 1

      Actually I got my orders of magnitude screwed up and I replied to my own post to correct it

      .

      The difference in terms of ratio is actually 2^70 / 10^21 = 1.18 ish. Which may not seem too significant, but on that scale, that's a LOT of bytes.

    7. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Everyone other than hard drive manufacturers has been using the SI prefixes to refer to power of two quantities when referring to binary data for 40 years. Attempting to redefine them retroactively just causes confusion.

      No, the confusion is cause by using a pseudo-binary based number system in a world where almost everything else is decimal.

      Quick question: You have a 2000 MiB video file and a 2470 MiB video file. Will they both fit on a 4.37 GiB DVD? Now you need your calculator.

      It's much easier to figure out if a 2097 MB and a 2590 MB file fit on a 4.7 GB disk. You can do that in your head.

      I've been burned numerous times by programs ambiguously reporting sizes in KiB and MiB causing me to run out of space on something that I'm trying to fill. All storage sizes should always be reported in decimal numbers. If RAM manufacturers want to keep using powers of two due to the implementation detail of how their chips are constructed, they should *always* use KiB, MiB and GiB.

    8. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

      In theory, yes. In practice, the whole Zebibyte thing is complete nonsense. It's actually very simple. While many Americans have issues with units of measurements (no surprise), in most countries SI is the *law* and there is no ambiguity.
      Just remember how "Quarter Pounder" is illegal as a commercial item in Germany. There is SI, and everything else is *illegal* to use in commerce.

    9. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by value_added · · Score: 1

      No, the confusion is cause by using a pseudo-binary based number system in a world where almost everything else is decimal.

      No, the confusion is caused by insisting on using base ten for a system that doesn't use it.

      That fact that you may be "more comfortable" with base ten is irrelevant. In fact, it's little different than those accustomed to Imperial measurements habitually recalculating metric measurements in their head, and then exclaiming, "The metric system is too complicated and too much work."

      It's much easier to figureall of it out if a 2097 MB and a 2590 MB file fit on a 4.7 GB disk. You can do that in your head.

      For trivial values of "easier", and then only in those instances where a single consumer needs to perform a single free space calculation. For everything else, that is, using a computer, it's back to binary. Open an explorer window on a Windows system and there you are. Going farther, measuring IO or network performance, to cite two trivial examples, or understanding any of those subjects in general, you're binary to binary. Which is where the computer was all along.

      Seems to me that if your goal is to improve the lot of consumers, then I'd suggest they'd be better served by you educating them how computers work. They were forced to, and happily accepted, memorising multipliction tables in grade school. I don't see why learning powers of two, and then extending that (for the "power users") to base 16, is unreasonable.

    10. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For everything else, that is, using a computer, it's back to binary.

      It is not. RAM is the only quantity in computers commonly measured in binary. Hard drives have always been in decimal. Floppies have always been in an even more stupid system where "MB" == 1000*1024. Clock speeds have always been decimal.

      Going farther, measuring IO or network performance, to cite two trivial examples, or understanding any of those subjects in general, you're binary to binary.

      You appear to have been bambooozled yourself by the confusion caused by this issue. I/O speed of buses is always decimal because it derives from MHz and GHz, which are decimal. Network bandwidth is more often measured in decimal megabits, not binary.

      You seem to think that just because one user app, Windows Explorer, confusingly shows binary based quantities, then everything else in the computer is or ought to be measured that way as well. You're incorrect.

      I don't see why learning powers of two, and then extending that (for the "power users") to base 16, is unreasonable.

      If you were advocating that people learn and work in pure hexadecimal, you might have a point. However, these units aren't a consistent radix. They're a strange mishmash of binary and decimal based on the accident that 2**10 is somewhere close to 10**3. They have completely different math for each of KiB, MiB, GiB, etc. You're telling people that they need to work with four or more distinct new number systems, and be prepared to convert between any and all of them, depending on approximately how much data they're working with. That's just stupid.

    11. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by pipatron · · Score: 1

      No, the confusion is caused by insisting on using base ten for a system that doesn't use it.

      No, the confusion is caused by insisting on using an SI-prefix that has meant exactly 1000 since 1795 to now mean something else. Hence the new 'kibi' instead of 'kilo'.

      Going farther, measuring IO or network performance, to cite two trivial examples, or understanding any of those subjects in general, you're binary to binary.

      Interesting that you mention these two examples, since they use base 10 as is proper. 1 Gbit/s means 1,000,000,000 bits/s. From the all-knowing wikipedia:

      The megabit is most commonly used when referring to data transfer rates in network speeds, e.g. a 100 Mbit/s (megabit per second) Fast Ethernet connection. In this context, like elsewhere in telecommunications, it always equals 10^6 bits.
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    12. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      You seem to think that only RAM manufacturers would ever need to care about 2^10 units, but it's just not true. Caches, memory pages, graphics pipelines, textures, bus widths, buffers, in short almost everything turns to multiples of two when you come close to the hardware. Sure, we can list storage sizes in 10^3 notation but then surely some guy will get confused why his 64k buffer doesn't hold 64000 bytes. Yes, I'm in favor of consistently using MB and MiB for the sake of resolving this clusterfuck, I'm just saying that by making your world easier you probably someone else's harder because now they have to deal with the 1000/1024 issue. And no, you can't tell them to just get rid of it altogether...

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    13. Re:Which definition of a zetabyte? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's more than that.

      kilo ~= 2.5%
      mega ~= 5%
      giga ~= 7.5%
      tera ~= 10%
      peta ~= 12.5%
      exa ~= 15%
      zeta ~= 17.5%

      ....though I'm still bigger than the average indonesian male.

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  9. PLEASE, stop this nonesense! by unityofsaints · · Score: 1

    Could everyone please stop posting stories about how much data there will be saved on earth in such-and-such a year? Firstly, it's pure speculation/estimation, secondly, who really cares? Most of it is cached google pages and pron anyway...

  10. Wrong metric? by guruevi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was wondering if they weren't a bit wrong in their calculations. A Zettabyte is 1 Million Petabytes. Knowing that where I work has about 2 petabytes in a few SAN's and there are 1000's of larger institutions and millions that are smaller (that store in the terabytes range) around the world. The place I worked before had about a half a petabyte just in tape backups for credit card and other transactions, catalog and pricing information, images etc. and that was just an average clothing company, hardly rivaling JCPenney or Macy's. I'm also thinking about Wal-Mart with millions of products and thousands of stores. And we're just talking about SAN's here mainly in the US, not including desktops, laptops, camera's, personal information, Google.

    On another note, how much does a zettabyte actually yield these days, drive manufacturers might just give you 700 Petabytes for it. Oblig. XKCD: http://xkcd.org/394/

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    1. Re:Wrong metric? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      1 zettabyte is too little of an estimate. If as I said, there are about 1000 institutions the size of mine (there are in the US alone) that would take 1-5 exabytes. If there are about 1,000,000 institutions worldwide that are a bit smaller (there are a lot more hospitals, schools, research facilities and government agencies than that I think) they can take up another 1 exabyte all combined and that's just if they average a 1TB SAN per institution.

      If there are about a thousand companies equal to the company I worked for (Fortune 1000), that would be another 500 exabytes. Then we haven't talked about the 1 billion desktop/laptop/tablet computers in this world that store on average 10GB that would be a zettabyte all by itself.

      If you have no idea about what medical data spits out: a single MRI scan can take anywhere between 100MB and 2GB of unprocessed raw imaging data, average of about 300MB. Some facilities have 24/7 operations of 2 or 3 scanners with a scan every 30 minutes per machine. Then it usually needs processed which usually duplicates the scanning data and expands it's size further (a single researcher can take up to 2TB over the course of 1 year).

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    2. Re:Wrong metric? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      A Zettabyte is 1 Million Petabytes.

      Perhaps its time to shift to some form of scientific notation because the exponent gives the reader a number to use to compare. If every increment gets a name like "zorkbytes", "gwavabytes", "snookibytes", etc. it carries very little meaning without a dictionary, and sounds funny to boot.

  11. Peak data? by Katatsumuri · · Score: 1
    I wonder if we will reach some peak data level, when the amount of new data stored would be balanced by the old data rotten away.

    How long can it grow by a factor of 10 every 5 years until we hit some fundamental limit?

    1. Re:Peak data? by RoverDaddy · · Score: 1

      SHH!!!! If people start believing in peak data, the price of data will skyrocket!

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  12. Signal to noise ration by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    1,800 exabytes of raw data. Anyone like to guess how much of this will be useful data! Judging by some system specifications I have read 5% is being generous. A twenty page specification can be condensed to a single page of useful information, and over half is "boilerplate" disclaimers, etc. which are the same in all the company's specifications.

    1. Re:Signal to noise ration by Bad+to+the+Ben · · Score: 1

      No kidding. Just think of all the space used to store formatting data. I just typed the expression "Blah." (minus quotes) in a .doc file, it's 19,456 bytes in size to store 5 bytes of information.

      I'm not saying that formatting data is entirely without worth, but there's definitely some improvements to be had WRT efficiency.

    2. Re:Signal to noise ration by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Just store it in XML and, at least, triple the storage requirements.

    3. Re:Signal to noise ration by pyite · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that formatting data is entirely without worth, but there's definitely some improvements to be had WRT efficiency.

      This is just a general observation. When did the use of "wrt" take off? I seem to see it everywhere. Wouldn't it be more efficient to just say "there are definitely some efficiency improvements to be had" instead of "there's definitely some improvements to be had WRT efficiency"?

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  13. Someday... by weyesone · · Score: 1

    Somebody is going to discover that our brains are much more capable of storing infinitely large amounts of information.

    1. Re:Someday... by Locklin · · Score: 1

      I have a ten story library here on campus for you to store and index in your head.

      Wet processing is excellent for some restricted purposes, wet storage just plain sucks.

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  14. Data figures are misleading by Bombula · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The interesting thing here is the part about data being relayed through third parties and the issues involved. As for the data figures themselves, those are pretty misleading because data does not equal useful information. There is far less useful information in an MS Word file than 100Kb or whatever, for example, so these zetabyte figures bandied about aren't terribly meaningful other than to draw attention to the infrastructure needed to support digital data relaying. To see my point, turn things upside down: there is vastly more data stored on an LP record or celluloid film than on a CD or digital photograph. But is that data useful information? Only a few audiophiles and filmophiles would argue that there is.

    Yes, there is a lot of data in the world. But is there really that much more information out there? A zillion copies of the same song just means more data, not more information.

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    1. Re:Data figures are misleading by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      Exactly. In fact, as time goes on, it will be -easier- to store information, as data storage capabilities grow faster than our information creation capabilities, and our population (ie: lets say every human on the planet walks around with as many HD cameras as they can carry, recording everything in their lives... the population growth will still make it a manageable amount of information long term).

      There's also a limit on how much information can be consumed per person (or searched, etc.,---beyond a certain point, there's no reason to `keep' it around). Lets say you're capable of watching and comprehending 10000 HD videos at the same time. That's still a cap on how much information you can consume in your life time.

      ie: Google's job of indexing all of the worlds information is becoming easier and easier every day.

      Unless of course some AI shows up and starts producing and consuming information at an ever increasing rate---but then I'd imagine it would be doing something -useful- with all that information (hopefully). Maybe it would create a simulation of the universe---where people would wonder about things.

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  15. recycling plastic by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    don't worry, we can mine landfills and recycle the plastic out of them at some point. After all, the plastic isn't going anywhere, and we're only going to get more technologically advanced, so at *some* point, surely this will make sense!

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    1. Re:recycling plastic by Yetihehe · · Score: 1

      http://www.rexresearch.com/pringle/pringle.htm it already starts to make sense.

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  16. ...and by 2020, a single install of Photoshop by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Photoshop was 22,000 files last time I checked. ...and I know people who think that's cool.

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    1. Re:...and by 2020, a single install of Photoshop by Sciros · · Score: 1

      22,000 files, eh? That's cool.

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  17. and 98% by kannibul · · Score: 1

    and 98% of it we could get rid of due to it being ads, spam, and files from employees that are over 15 years old and/or are not relevant to the business.

  18. You are answering yourself by DrYak · · Score: 1

    secondly, who really cares? Most of it is cached google pages and pron anyway...
    That's why /.ers care.
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    1. Re:You are answering yourself by epine · · Score: 3, Interesting

      secondly, who really cares? Most of it is cached google pages and pron anyway... That's why /.ers care. But actually, no. We're very close already to being able to generate pron on demand without involving any principle photography. You won't even need to say what you want, that will be ascertained on the fly by neuro-cranial-bio-feedback.

      After enough of the male population has been brain mapped, it will probably turn out like spam: there's only so many unique permutations, as long as the scene is dressed up a little differently from time to time to maintain the novelty factor.

      Pron seems to be a lot like Big Bertha, where each mortar round was larger than the last, to accommodate progressive barrel enlargement. Eventually the images become extremely shocking to get any response at all.

      http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/03/mri_vision

      The future of compression is not to send the picture itself, but the reduced specification for an image that produces the same effect on the human visual system. We're already doing this with psycho-acoustic encoding.

      Once we have a sufficiently sophisticated model of human sensory perception, mental and emotional responses (which will run to TBs I'm sure), we can run a competition for the best feature movie encoded in under 4KB. Mostly it would describe desired emotional responses and cognitive states, the actual images would be back-generated to achieve this effect as determined by the human perceptual model.
  19. Zettajillion by dgun · · Score: 1

    [Fry stands up and raises his hand.]
    FRY: One jillion dollars.
    [The bidders gasp in shock.]
    AUCTIONEER: Sir, that's not a number.
    [The bidders gasp again.]

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  20. 1 billion kagilion buhgillion by fender177 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    .....Is Austin Powers behind this recent post?

  21. Insert Animal House reference here by 4thAce · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a fraternity thing.

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  22. I think we all know what this means. by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 1

    We're gonna need more SI prefixes.

    1. Re:I think we all know what this means. by Creepy · · Score: 1

      or we're one big EMP pulse away from losing almost 2 zettabytes of data.

      and technicallly, there is only one SI definition of zettabyte, which is 10^21. The binary definitions used by the IEC like the zettabyte=2^70 are being renamed to avoid ambiguity (proposed to be zebibyte for zeta binary byte).

  23. Speaking of... by justthinkit · · Score: 1

    Does this article take into account zip file contents, zips of zips, cabs, zips of cabs, files within .iso etc. -- all the files within files within files? If so, how?

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  24. meh... by owlnation · · Score: 1

    ...640k ought to be enough for everyone.

  25. Duplicates? by BigAssRat · · Score: 1

    How many of those files are duplicates?

  26. They're same size by alphabetsoup · · Score: 1

    They are almost the same.

    log(2^50) = 50 log 2 = 15.0515
    log (10^15) = 15 log 10 = 15

    Approximately the same size, and definitely not "astronomically larger".

    1. Re:They're same size by Jehosephat2k · · Score: 1

      10^15 = 1000 * 10^12, a thousand terrabytes?

      Or a million Gigabytes? Seems awefully "small".

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettabyte

      A zetta byte is 10^21, not 10^15. This is a trillion gigabytes, or a billion terrabytes... or...

  27. VCR? by carnivorouscow · · Score: 1

    There are lots of people who kept their VCR and tape collection after they bought a DVD player. Why do so many "experts" assume that when a technology becomes outdated that it's immediately thrown away? I suspect that analog TVs and DVD players will hang around until they finally break, much like the current generation of HD platforms.

    1. Re:VCR? by rholland356 · · Score: 1

      Immediate or not, EVERY PRODUCT ever manufactured eventually ends up in the trash. So, whether the switch to digital creates a Rat in Snake effect at the dump, waste management types must prepare for the ultimate total amount of rubbish.

      And, having gone through one 50-inch plasma, it is no simple task to haul one of those puppies. I think even the e-waste collection centers will struggle with these pigs.

    2. Re:VCR? by carnivorouscow · · Score: 1

      I agree, everything is ultimately destined for the dump/recycling center. I just don't expect for there to be a sudden glut of electronic trash, a lot of it will end up in spare rooms, yard sales and pawn shops. Lots of people, myself included, have a hard time throwing away something that still works well. The old electronics will eventually go away but a lot of the devices will be living out their full lifespan, just like they would have if no upgrade had come out.

  28. 4 Gigs. by Warll · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So I used their digital foot print calc, it told me mine was 4.5 gigabytes. A little on the low side I'd say, I have 1.1 TB of HDD sitting right next to me.

  29. Properly Set Up TV For The Win... by nick_davison · · Score: 1

    but you'll never see it if your TV can't natively display 1080p (or at least 720) Having experienced both, I'd still pick upscaled DVD on a well calibrated, high quality 720p or 1080i TV than BluRay on the majority of 1080p TVs as they come out of the box.

    Yes, extra resolution is a wonderful thing. IF you can see it.

    Lousy upscaled DVD to lousy 1080p gives you lots more lousy pixels and a nice, reassuring feeling. Look how sharp the artificial edges of the overblown sharpening settings are now! Look how you can really get a sense of the edge of the large area that's lost in the shadows. Look how black that giant smudge is!

    Or a properly calibrated set showing a DVD at its best will suddenly bring a ton of subtle detail out of the shadows, out of the blown out highlights. That mass of red cloth suddenly gains subtle variations that show the stitching, etc.

    Given a choice between upping 50 near uniform red pixels to 300 near uniform red pixels or 50 near uniform red pixels to 50 beautifully varying ones, I'll always choose the latter.

    So, yes, 1080p is always going to beat upscaled DVD on the same setup. But a good set, properly calibrated, vs. the majority of crap that's out there, is also always going to be a bigger improvement still.

    If you have the money, get the 120hz 1080p set that's at the top of everyone's line. Plug in BluRay, marvel at the whole experience.

    If you don't have the money and you have to compromise somewhere, you'll be better served by putting the price of the $500 BluRay player in to a better picture (note: I said better, not bigger) and the Avia Home Theater calibration DVD. You'll get a far bigger improvement from upconverting regular DVDs on a great set than you will from displaying a high definition source through crap.

    Besides, three movies later at current costs, you'll have saved so much by buying regular DVDs, you can now buy that BluRay player anyway - and now it'll be plugged in to a great display.
  30. Duplicates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet that at least 92% of that data is a duplicate from another source. Would be nice to see how much of it is pirated content :-).

  31. Business plan to make all slashdotters rich by Katatsumuri · · Score: 1

    Okay, now that you asked, that was my plan: 1. Collect massive amounts of umm, let's just call it "data", hehe 2. Seed the peak data myth 3. Data prices skyrocket 4. Profit! See, no "???" here!

  32. mods gone wild by dsanfte · · Score: 1

    The parent post could be many things, maybe even funny, but it is definitely not insightful.

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  33. Not so many zeros. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    I quickly scanned the comments looking for the string of zeros helpfully provided by some slashdotter. Upon finding none, I grumbled to myself and visited wikipedia.


    A zettabyte is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes, or 10 to the 21st power.

    --Does this include data stored in landfills?

    Okay. Silly article. Moving on now.


    -FL

  34. Fap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.8 zettabytes? Man, I'm surprised they haven't renamed it the fapternet.

  35. Tubes huh? by g-san · · Score: 1

    Well apparently some of the tubes are not tubes at all, but big bit buckets! Here's some more!

  36. Mod parent up by spazdor · · Score: 1

    to frustrate grandparent.

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