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The DIY Tank

Will Foster, a Kettering University student, has built his own half sized Panzer tank. It took Will 2 years and around $10,000 to build his mini-tank and he says the process has been "a lot of trial and error...I'd buy a $200 part that didn't work, then go to a $300 part that didn't work before finding a $50 part that did." The tank is about as big as a small car, and can reach speeds of around 20 mph with its three-cylinder diesel engine. It runs on treads, has a cannon powered by compressed air from a scuba tank and parks wherever the hell it wants.

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  1. One question... by PlatyPaul · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... will you be my research advisor?

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  2. whatcouldpossiblygowrong? by deander2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    if there was ever a time this tag really fit.... =P

  3. $ Dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that $10,000 dollars as opposed to $10,000 donuts or !10,000 dollars, or what?

    1. Re:$ Dollars by tehniobium · · Score: 5, Funny

      The $ indicates that the 10,000 dollars is a php variable.

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  4. Interesting by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Funny
    To see what the parking place attendants will say when you park it.

    Also interesting to see what they will write on the parking ticket...

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    1. Re:Interesting by name*censored* · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just make up some fake diplomatic immunity plates for it. No-one's going to believe a parking inspector who tells people "I couldn't ticket the panzer because of Iraqi Diplomatic Immunity".

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    2. Re:Interesting by AgentPaper · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, even if it were full size it'd still be smaller than any of the "Ford F-Off" (tm Achromatic1978) giant-sized trucks and SUVs that you're apt to see people driving in Flint. (The Panzer was about a foot shorter than a Suburban/Yukon XL/Escalade ESV.)

      I don't think the meter maids would complain so much as the road commission. Treads aren't nice to asphalt, and Michigan already has the worst-maintained roads in the nation...

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  5. panzer tank ??? by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "panzer tank" ??? where did this come from ? the redundant department of redundancy ? panzer already is german for "tank".

    you either say "german tank" or "german panzer", but "panzer tank"??? sheesh.

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    1. Re:panzer tank ??? by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Funny

      I find it interesting that someone who uses zeros as a substitute for the letter "O" in their nickname would be such a stickler when it comes to proper language usage. :)

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    2. Re:panzer tank ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      panzer != tank
      panzer == armor

      Only $2000? I'm all about building one.

    3. Re:panzer tank ??? by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh how I miss panzergirl, on the beach in her panzerkini.
      But I have to get back to work cleaning out septic panzers.

    4. Re:panzer tank ??? by redcaboodle · · Score: 2, Informative

      panzer != tank panzer == armor

      Panzer can mean both.

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    5. Re:panzer tank ??? by coyote_oww · · Score: 5, Informative
      IIRC, the Panther was the PzKw V, Tiger was PzKw VI. The confusion is reasonable though, since the Tiger was actually deployed first (again IIRC). This model seems to be based on the Tiger.

      Visually, the Panther and Tiger are striking different. The Panther has sloping front armor, the Tiger has a thicker unsloped front plate - not quite as sophisticated, a more brute-force approach to armoring a tank.

      Also, as I recall, "Panzer" can be taken colloquially to mean "tank", but the full name of the machine is revealing "PanzerKamphWagen" - which literally translates as "armored fight(ing) vehicle".

      I knew all that SL/ASL would come in handy someday!

    6. Re:panzer tank ??? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

      The kid called it a half-scale replica of a Tiger I in the video. Just so there's no confusion. :-)

    7. Re:panzer tank ??? by Keith_Beef · · Score: 5, Informative

      I believe that use of the word "Panzer" is a an abbreviation for "Panzerkampfwagen", which roughly means "armoured assault vehicle".

    8. Re:panzer tank ??? by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Funny

      That why those german's lost the war. They didn't know if they were sending the armor division or a tank division into battle.

      At least the English decided to name things a cover story dealing with potable water that was hiding the development of what became the first Tank. They only get confused if they forget their mission, it's either following the mess hall around or shooting up the enemy.

    9. Re:panzer tank ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      We are Americans here! We are not supposed to know another language! We can say whatever heck we want! Remember that for us Yankees, Canada is the 51st state, UK is the 52nd, Paris is right beside Beijing and southbound from Baghdad, the Vietnam is close to Hawaii, there is nothing south of El Paso besides Illegal Aliens, Jungle and 3X beer, and Japan, Korea and Australia belong to the same continent.
      So, now get of my lawn with your German classes!

    10. Re:panzer tank ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Panzer is German for panther.

      This is like complaining that "sherman tank" is redundant, cause, like, you know, everyone knows that a sherman is a tank.

      Excuse me while I finish my decaf coffee and turn off my cell phone before I get into my BMW automobile and drive on the interstate highway.

    11. Re:panzer tank ??? by lunartik · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Only $2000? I'm all about building one.


      He probably could make some of the money back by selling the plans. An ad for "Build Your Own Mini-Tank!" in the back of Popular Mechanics might actually be the most legit kit ever advertised there.
    12. Re:panzer tank ??? by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      austria's official language is also german. so a panzer made in austria would be an "austrian panzer"...

      i know, i know. this reply was too pedantic, even for me. but hey!! i'm a geek... "pedantic geek" is as reduntat as "panzer tank", right ?

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    13. Re:panzer tank ??? by cyxxon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Err, no. I am german, and it is clearly Panzer = Tank. While, say, a piece of a medieval plate armor that goes to the chest can be called Brustpanzer (with brust = chest), and the word Panzerung means armor, the word Panzer itself just plain and simple means tank. Caveat: I do not know what the correct military bureaucrat term is for that, since they tend to have a word no one outside of the military uses, but in general german that is what it means.

    14. Re:panzer tank ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Native German speaker here - I can confirm that "Panzer" means *both* "tank" and "armour".

    15. Re:panzer tank ??? by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Watch the video. All he needs to do is temporarily affix the "slow moving vehicle" triangle to the back of the mini-Panzer and he is good to go. Basically what he built is a tractor with rubber tracks and an air cannon.

      The ultimate in fahrvergnuegen. Outstanding.

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    16. Re:panzer tank ??? by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      they also speak french in Switzerland. but i understand why they used the german word instead of the term the french usually use when they see a tank: "J'abandonne!!!" (I surrender!!!)

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  6. The real WTF is the URL by Incoherent07 · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2008/04/post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html

    Note the last part. The Flint Journal must be extremely confident in how road-safe this tank is.

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  7. Sane police by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "(Police) came and they just told us to head back home, but they were also laughing at it because they had never seen anything like that before."


    It's refreshing to read about police who aren't trying to taser everything that fails to conform.

    1. Re:Sane police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would YOU try to taser a guy driving a tank?

    2. Re:Sane police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spend more time in the real world rather than living with your bias and blinders on - and it won't be refreshing, it will be boring as hell. Because that's how most cops are.

    3. Re:Sane police by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny
      It's refreshing to read about police who aren't trying to taser everything that fails to conform.

      It's a tank. You've got a taser. Good humour is the best way to handle this situation, don't you think? Unless you've got the facility to radio in an airstrike.

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    4. Re:Sane police by g1zmo · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a tank. You've got a taser. Good humour is the best way to handle this situation, don't you think? Unless you've got the facility to radio in an airstrike.

      I think LAPD has implemented a preliminary test program.

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    5. Re:Sane police by Charlton+Heston · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's not bullshit, it's the truth. I'm Charlton Heston, I'm dead, and I would not lie to you.

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    6. Re:Sane police by s20451 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With a 3-cylinder engine, you could pretty much stop it with your outstretched arm.

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    7. Re:Sane police by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Just like when people mistake firecrackers for gunshots.

      ...and vice versa. When the reporter asks witnesses why they didn't call the cops right away, they're very likely to say "It didn't sound like a gun." What they really mean is "It didn't sound like a movie gun."

      I remember quite a few people who thought the gunfire in Saving Private Ryan sounded fakey -- precisely because it didn't.

      rj

    8. Re:Sane police by Kazymyr · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're welcome to try. It's a Diesel - and Diesels may not be fast, but they have lots of torque.

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    9. Re:Sane police by Thirdsin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, the article did say the body was made out of plywood, not steel. So a couple slugs from his shotgun (if he has one) would also do the trick...

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    10. Re:Sane police by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When the reporter asks witnesses why they didn't call the cops right away, they're very likely to say "It didn't sound like a gun." What they really mean is "It didn't sound like a movie gun."
      As a clueless, street-naive person, I can totally understand that. Last July 3rd, I was standing outside a bar when some asshole started shooting (roughly) in the direction of a crowd I was in. In the first second, I couldn't figure out why so many people were diving for the pavement. I mean, it was just someone across the street playing with firecrackers, right? Sheesh, what a bunch of panicky wim-- then I heard the bullets whizzing by and realized what was happening and ducked behind a car. Aha, so that's what gunshots sounds like. :-)
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    11. Re:Sane police by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Never underestimate the power of adrenaline mixed with testosterone. When that guy stole that tank in San Diego and went on a rampage crushing cars and knocking down utility poles, a cop jumped up on the tank and shot him.

      And you thought Dirty Harry was tough cop, that guy's street cred must be off scale. You feel lucky today punk? You do? OK, then I'll just have to call in my partner here, WHO SINGLE HANDEDLY STOPPED A FRIGGEN TANK WITH A 9mm PISTOL.

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    12. Re:Sane police by Dannkape · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know I'm not supposed to actually RTFA and stuff, but in the video he says it's an old generator from his job at a generator factory...

    13. Re:Sane police by darthdavid · · Score: 2, Informative

      True the cop had balls of steel but not as big as your post implies. It had no ammunition on board and the retard that stole it beached it on a concrete divider (which is what allowed the cop to jump up on it in the first place).

    14. Re:Sane police by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Funny

      I remember quite a few people who thought the gunfire in Saving Private Ryan sounded fakey -- precisely because it didn't.

      Sounded fake to me, I was not wearing ear protection and I was not partially deaf with ringing ears. :-)

    15. Re:Sane police by rabiddeity · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, umm, can I have your rifle now? I mean a promise is a promise, right?

  8. Can't wait to see... by gdog05 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone driving one of these and talking on a cell phone.

    1. Re:Can't wait to see... by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

      Someone driving one of these and talking on a cell phone.

      Myself, I can't wait to be driving one of these and see someone else talking on a cell phone. ;)

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  9. MPG? Straight line! by apachetoolbox · · Score: 5, Funny

    At first I thought about the MPG it gets. Then I though it doesn't matter when you can just go in a straight line. Buildings-shmildings.

    1. Re:MPG? Straight line! by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Buildings-shmildings.

      Roads-shmoads.

      Bridges... Oh Shit!

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  10. Gentlemen by AndGodSed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hats off.

    There goes a truly great future engineer...

  11. Tiger I by Black-Man · · Score: 4, Informative

    It appears he modeled it after the Tiger I. I'd love to see if he got the road wheels properly replicated - the "Tiger" in Saving Private Ryan was built on a T-34 chassis and was well... lame. The only war movie I've seen w/ properly depicted tanks was "Iron Cross" in the 70's which used actual T-34 even though it was a T-34/85 which did not see service until 1944 and the movie was set in late '43 during the retreat from Kerch.

    1. Re:Tiger I by slarabee · · Score: 3, Informative
      There is a video on the linked story.

      Looks like five road wheels and a raised drive wheel on the front. No interleaving. It is not accurate but closer than some movies have come.

    2. Re:Tiger I by bellers · · Score: 5, Funny

      No one cares, tank-nerd.

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  12. 420 what? by starglider29a · · Score: 3, Funny

    i see the "420" on the turret. i wonder if that's Hitler's Birthday, or something else?

    I've heard of "shotgunning", but that's ridiculous!!!

    1. Re:420 what? by Sangui · · Score: 2, Informative

      He enjoys his reefer.

    2. Re:420 what? by MorpheousMarty · · Score: 2, Funny

      Suck and prostitute need to be used carefully in a sentence... Also, I hope GTA IV allows me to slashdot hookers.

  13. Tailgaters? by grassy_knoll · · Score: 4, Funny

    With a top speed of 20MPH, he must get a lot of tailgaters...

    well, not the same tailgater twice with that cannon...

    1. Re:Tailgaters? by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, this thing shoots Red Bull cans, so it's more than probable that it's ALWAYS the same tailgaters.

      They're happy about the free Red Bull but they're pissed at the slow speed at the same time!

  14. Lunch Money... by pwnies · · Score: 4, Funny

    And now all the bullies that took this geek's lunch money as a kid will run in fear - as the geek now has a tank.

  15. I Come In Peace! by wsanders · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to TFA, it shoots Red Bull cans.

    Liberation through overpriced syrupy caffeinated beverages! Bet Rommel never thought of that.

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  16. I went to high school with this kid by usul294 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This guy's been doing things like that for awhile. He and I went to the same high school for 2 years. He loved making stuff by hand and engineering things. He had this humongous truck, probably bigger than that tank that he constantly added stuff to. Will liked to bounce some of his crazy ideas off of us, potato guns and the like. Alot of crazy prank ideas too. I'm glad to see that he's still at it.

    1. Re:I went to high school with this kid by Redbaran · · Score: 3, Funny

      Will liked to bounce some of his crazy ideas off of us, potato guns and the like. Tell me, did it hurt when he bounced that crazy potato gun idea off you?
  17. Awww by Translation+Error · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's adorable. Does he call it Bonaparte?

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  18. My bet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dick cheney will buy it and use it for duck hunting with a bunch of dems.

  19. Time to take up golf... by AioKits · · Score: 4, Funny

    You thought you looked awesome in that golf shirt and pimped out golf cart on the back nine? Wait till your friends see how you roll with a mini panzer!

    Mind if I play through? *adjusts turret* Of course you don't.

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  20. paintball! by ILuvRamen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In case you didn't catch it, he built it all for paintball! THAT'S AWESOME! For $2000 total that's not bad if someone were to built another one. Although call me crazy but with gas prices, I'd wanna build a more fuel efficient pod racer instead lol. Btw I love where he says all you gotta do is put a slow moving vehicle sign on it or an orange triangle and it's technically a tractor.

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  21. Not complete until... by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would not consider this project complete until he finds a German midget to drive it...

    1. Re:Not complete until... by dreemernj · · Score: 3, Funny

      I know a little German o.O

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  22. Ultimate Paintball game! by dick+johnson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This kid has a gold mine at his hands!

    If he could mass produce this and modify the cannon a bit, he has the makings of the ultimate Paintball game.

    The heck with these light-infantry paint ball games! I wanna be Patton!

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  23. Oh sure, he's hot shit NOW by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just wait until someone builds a half-scale anti-tank missile.

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    1. Re:Oh sure, he's hot shit NOW by wvmarle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like the beginning of a half-scale arms race.

  24. Re:Slashdot is getting slow by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do people still watch attack of the show? Might as well say it is before any other organization. Your still l33t.

  25. Re:Slashdot is getting slow by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just wait until tomorrow, when they have the story about his neighbor who built five T-34 replicas for the same amount.

  26. Re:Slashdot is getting slow by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I prefer it when Slashdot gets these things before any other organization...keeps us l33t :) Huh? What's Slashdot got to do with being l33t?! I'm afraid I can't parse that sentence.

  27. LOL! Look at the URL by JonTurner · · Score: 4, Funny

    "http: // blog.mlive.com/ flintjournal /newsnow/2008/04/ post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html"

    "post moto kid death story here" ?!?
    I'm thinking that there must be a "part two" to this tale!

  28. In English, Panzer doesn't mean tank by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The word "panzer" in English is a class noun that denotes a general type of tank, specifically German, usually of the WWII era.

    Words in different languages mean different things, even if the sounds are the same, and even if the word is borrowed into another language. You're not insightful for your observation - you're ignorant of language and linguistics.

  29. Alvis Scorpion by Kupfernigk · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If you want armor that is stronger than plywood and a little more performance, consider an Alvis Scorpion. Available in street legal form, max speed 45mph, and with the governor removed can achieve over 70. The interior space is limited, it's a bit noisy, but you could use it to shunt a Hummer until it fitted into a pickup, and would probably only need to touch up the paint a bit.

    BTW can anybody tell me the actual engine (and gearbox) used on the Kettering version?

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  30. Alarm system by honestmonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    The first thing I thought of when seeing him climb out of it, is that he needs to put in a car alarm. I was half-expecting it at one point. Drive up in a tank, climb out, point the remote at it and "Bee-boop".

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  31. hail all ye rounders by paiute · · Score: 3, Informative

    Am I the first brother to RTFA? Will is a Theta Xi, one of the original (if not the first, sorry pledge trainer) fraternity founded for engineering students.

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    1. Re:hail all ye rounders by thetartanavenger · · Score: 2, Funny

      Am I the first brother to RTFA? First maybe. Last definitely, it's been slashdotted..
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  32. Re:youre from the department of redundancy departm by Applekid · · Score: 2, Funny

    You must be new here. The sport of pointing out redundancies, errors, and speling mistakes is a wonderful sport, like NASCAR.

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  33. Re:Okay by zeroduck · · Score: 2, Informative

    At Kettering, we do 3 months of school and then 3 months of work (paid), then repeat for 4 and a half years. Most of us have some money, or pretend we do. We're all Sallie Mae's bitches.

  34. How Long..... by Budgreen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Until small furry rodents eat through his armor plating? I personally think this guy did a better job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

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  35. Re:Slashdot is getting slow by Draek · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's because proper editing and source-checking takes time, and that's something that needs to be done for *all* stories, so stop pressuring the editors unless you want Slashdot's normally excellent quality standards to drop.

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  36. WTF is amazing by squirrelrock · · Score: 2, Interesting
    and yes, those are his initials. go figure.

    about that truck. we have to lift the shorter girls into it. literally. they cant reach the seats. i love it.

    the whole thing came about with what we thought was a joke. Will asked one of us, If i were to start making a model of this tank, would you help me? (in ref to a hotwheels size model). So we said yeah, sure, whatever. And he comes home after class the next day with 2"x4"'s, 4"x4"'s, 8'x10' sheets of 1/4" and 1/2" plywood and starts working on it. And we were like, wow, he's actually serious. So we went outside and started helping. 4 hours later, we had a full frame.

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  37. It's the weight that causes road damage. by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 5, Informative

    The treads appear to be smooth and since his tank isn't heavy like a real, armored tank, it's not likely to do much damage. In the video, it appears to grind the pavement slightly when he spins in place.
    The treads look to be about a foot wide and there's at least five feet of contact on each side. That would give him around 1440 square inches of contact area. If his tank weighs a ton (the "armor" is plywood, after all), it is exerting less than 1.4 psi (about half what a person does).

  38. Mitsubishi made a hell of a lot more than engines by patio11 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You know the Zero, the iconic Japanese fighter plane? Its full name is "Mitsubishi A6M", with the Zero bit coming from the Imperial Navy's designation (and not, as I mistakenly believed for a while, from a Mitsubishi part number). Mitsubishi, like a number of the largest firms in Japanese, used to be a zaibatsu (think sort of a megaconglomerate of businesses which the government propped up during the rapid industrialization in the late 19th and early 20th centuries). Almost all of the zaibatsu were heavily involved in war production, as was almost any American company of any size for the duration of the war.

    Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is still one of Japan's leading armaments makers, incidentally. I live a few miles from one of their fighter plane factories. Its related to Mitsubishi Motors, which is probably the company most Westerners think about when they think Mitsubishi. Other companies in the group do banking, insurance, nuclear power plant construction, food services, etc etc.

  39. Re:Wirklich Deutscher? (Really German?) by cyxxon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, thanks for showing that there are fringe cases, like the one with the armadillo you posted. Too bad that Leo doesn't sort by usage or even knowledge of the usage in the general populace, as all the other entries in that list are really not something most people know...

    To simply work on that list that Leo comes up with: shell and biological shield are technical terms from very specific fields, casing would usually be translated as Gehäuse no matter how hard/armored it is, an insect's carapace or shell might indeed be called Panzer or Panzerung or Schale, but IMO that is also a rather technical term seeing the manifold discussions about insects carapaces in peoples daily life, and what the heck is a loricate, or steel jacket? Hard to judge without further explanation, but to get from jacket to Panzer seems rather far fetched to me, as a German, yes indeed - try to understand the impressum on my very much out of date homepage.

    As a side note: the new reply feature makes it hard to use German umlauts, had to resort to using HTML and using ä