"Yup. They killed a thriving industry..."
They killed a thriving industry for US. By US i mean the over 25 group that grew up with the classics and grew up with the system we knew and loved. What is happening now is a slow change, an evolution if you will. In 5 more years the largest part of the player base will not know the system we grew with and loved so much. They will only have been exposed to the industry in front of them, microtransactions and DLC.
Gaming is no longer in the domain of the 'geek', it is mainstream. The entire connotation of gaming has changed. We don't like it because the change hasn't been advantageous for US.
If i had mod points, you sir would have received them. I completely agree. It's not that the PC gamers out there want to flee in droves, its that we are being beaten over the head with this rubbish and simply saying 'no mas...'
That reminds me... What is the difference between the Constitutions of the USA and USSR? Both guarantee freedom of speech.
Yes, but the Constitution of the USA also guarantees freedom after the speech.
Amen brother. I created a new box about a year ago over going to consoles. As far as games with DRM i am in the same boat. I actually wanted to buy Spore, BioShock and a few other games with DRM but did not. I'd rather play Civ4 or SimCity4 for the 1 millionth hour, bc I still enjoy them.
This is going to turn into a vent...
What's worse, a new title called Red Alert 3 that i beta tested and enjoyed is coming out. Sadly i've learned it too will be infected with the filth called SecuROM. I've purchased every game in the Command and Conquer/Red Alert series, but no more. I can remember playing C&C multiplayer via 14.4 modem with a buddy on my Pentium 166, good memories. Thanks for shitting on my nostalgic moment EA. EA even was SO generous as to increase the number of times you can install the game from 3 to 5! I format my main machine roughly twice a year and still play games purchased back in 2000... Dear EA Sir or Madam, figure out your shit. Realize that intrusive DRM such as this is NOT the answer to your piracy problem and your core audience will leave you. For every Goliath there will be a David.
Does anyone remember the old model? Let's take the PC Classic and near and dear to my heart, the Command and Conquer series.
C&C comes out, great success. What next? They sold an expansion pack that had some new units, music, missions and maps which was another great success.
The formula worked. So now we have Red Alert + 2 expansion packs, Tiberian Sun + expansion pack, Red Alert 2 + expansion pack, C&C Generals + explansion pack, C&C3 + expansion pack.
To make this work on consoles via downloadable content is fine... But IMO it should be done in the same manner as before in large expansion packs, not small unlocks for nickels and dimes(correction, $10s and $20s) as their goal appears to be.
Very informative for CDMA. What about GSM? It's my understanding Verizon/Sprint(ignore Nextel) use CDMA while AT&T/T-Mobile use GSM. What's their excuse?
This company is obviously not the only player in the market. In fact, a friend of mine currently works for another company http://www.zcorp.com/ developing the material they use in the printers. Nothing to see here...
almost all manufacturers and professional groups in the US now refer to them as less-lethal not non-lethal...anything propelled by a non-trivial amount of powder has the power to kill, even bean bags and rubber bullets or tasers
Exactly. This new weapon can be just as dangerous. There was a tragedy here in Boston that underlines that problem of what exactly can be considered "less than lethal". After the 2004 ALCS victory a young college girl was killed by a "less than lethal" weapon.
when she's ready for her first job, we will give her part time work instead of her having to get a job in some fast food joint or convenience store
"Back in the day" I started working for a fast food restaurant when i was old enough... If that wasn't sufficient motivation to obtain a quality education, I don't know what else in my life could have been.
Give the kid the chance to find out what she "doesn't" want to do and programming might appear as a more attractive option;-) As Oscar Wilde put it, "Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes."
That reminds me,
Q: How many members of Congress does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. There is nothing wrong with the lightbulb; its conditions are improving every day. Any reports of its lack of incandesence are delusional spin from the liberal media. That lightbulb has served honorably, and anything you say undermines the lighting effort. Why do you hate freedom?!?
Probably more like Blizzard has decided that people paranoid about having their accounts compromised have become such a serious market segment that it can eke out a few more pennies selling these dongles for 6 euros a pop.
If you played then you would know how big a problem this actually is. I can't even start to count how many real life friends have had their accounts hacked despite more than adaquate passwords. Then throw in friends online who have gone through the same ordeal and the numbers become rather staggering.
The process of getting your account back is a pain, requiring you fill out a form then fax it in with a copy of your license! (black and white of course). This process takes about a week.
I won't disagree that Blizz should be more concerned correcting the problem some other way, perhaps by putting the multi millions they are making to good use. But save us your rediculous conspiracy theories. Ex- If they were really trying to make money, wouldn't a "Super premium Account Restoration Service" be a better idea? Ugh.
So here's my question, is this encryption going to start the old "license for one PC" deal we are familiar with? Because how many gamers create new rigs, modify or change parts, then want to reinstall the old game they played on their former PC? How about when the gamer (me) has a couple PCs with the same game on it and although he only uses one at a time, is he still infringing? This is rediculous, I pray PC games do not become like OEM licensed Windows where you're allowed one install on one PC. They've already pulled some pretty rediculous DRM thanks to Sony's SecuROM software on games like BioShock (which i never bought due to that) and other games Spore and Mass Effect. When will the pain end?
Hey sonny... Back in my day we dug trenches many miles long, uphill both ways, in the snow and tumultuous weather! Them days we were layin them there telegraph wires, but the lesson applies!
but it may actually be worth it for them to try to fiddle around at the MS-DOS prompt... Until they start hiring 18 yr old smart asses that type "Format C:" while youre in the other room:P Can't let those terror plans involving cute kittens get in the country, better to be safe than sorry.
FYI, Here is a related slashvertisement (sry). Staples offers data recovery services in partnership with Seagate. In this person's case for a physical failure it would be a flat fee $1,500. If the data is recovered, it is sent back in an external hard drive. If the data cannot be recovered there is no charge, period. RAID configs unfortunately do not fall under this flat pricing.
8. The system of claim 1, the broadcast device transfers encrypted information regarding the user to the plurality of other users and devices ...
18. The method of claim 17, further comprising:encrypting the information when communicated beyond the user; andverifying the authentication and authorization properties of recipients before communicating the information to the recipients.
Oh thank you, I feel much better now...
Just like hard drive manufacturers are they measuring per 1000KB? I'd put money they will try to pull this. Buyer beware of your magical cap shrinkage...
Wouldn't matter if the machine is just farming the info and immediately sending over the net elsewhere... But with that said, revenge is a dis(k) best served cold!
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"Yup. They killed a thriving industry..." They killed a thriving industry for US. By US i mean the over 25 group that grew up with the classics and grew up with the system we knew and loved. What is happening now is a slow change, an evolution if you will. In 5 more years the largest part of the player base will not know the system we grew with and loved so much. They will only have been exposed to the industry in front of them, microtransactions and DLC. Gaming is no longer in the domain of the 'geek', it is mainstream. The entire connotation of gaming has changed. We don't like it because the change hasn't been advantageous for US.
If i had mod points, you sir would have received them. I completely agree. It's not that the PC gamers out there want to flee in droves, its that we are being beaten over the head with this rubbish and simply saying 'no mas...'
So much for the "land of the free"...
That reminds me... What is the difference between the Constitutions of the USA and USSR? Both guarantee freedom of speech.
Yes, but the Constitution of the USA also guarantees freedom after the speech.
If they still can't produce a practical jetpack with extended flying time, i see this... not taking off!
Parent finally sees the light. I wish others would also open their eyes.
Amen brother. I created a new box about a year ago over going to consoles. As far as games with DRM i am in the same boat. I actually wanted to buy Spore, BioShock and a few other games with DRM but did not. I'd rather play Civ4 or SimCity4 for the 1 millionth hour, bc I still enjoy them.
This is going to turn into a vent...
What's worse, a new title called Red Alert 3 that i beta tested and enjoyed is coming out. Sadly i've learned it too will be infected with the filth called SecuROM. I've purchased every game in the Command and Conquer/Red Alert series, but no more. I can remember playing C&C multiplayer via 14.4 modem with a buddy on my Pentium 166, good memories. Thanks for shitting on my nostalgic moment EA.
EA even was SO generous as to increase the number of times you can install the game from 3 to 5! I format my main machine roughly twice a year and still play games purchased back in 2000...
Dear EA Sir or Madam, figure out your shit. Realize that intrusive DRM such as this is NOT the answer to your piracy problem and your core audience will leave you. For every Goliath there will be a David.
Does anyone remember the old model? Let's take the PC Classic and near and dear to my heart, the Command and Conquer series.
C&C comes out, great success. What next? They sold an expansion pack that had some new units, music, missions and maps which was another great success.
The formula worked. So now we have Red Alert + 2 expansion packs, Tiberian Sun + expansion pack, Red Alert 2 + expansion pack, C&C Generals + explansion pack, C&C3 + expansion pack.
To make this work on consoles via downloadable content is fine... But IMO it should be done in the same manner as before in large expansion packs, not small unlocks for nickels and dimes(correction, $10s and $20s) as their goal appears to be.
Very informative for CDMA. What about GSM? It's my understanding Verizon/Sprint(ignore Nextel) use CDMA while AT&T/T-Mobile use GSM. What's their excuse?
This company is obviously not the only player in the market. In fact, a friend of mine currently works for another company http://www.zcorp.com/ developing the material they use in the printers. Nothing to see here...
almost all manufacturers and professional groups in the US now refer to them as less-lethal not non-lethal...anything propelled by a non-trivial amount of powder has the power to kill, even bean bags and rubber bullets or tasers
Exactly. This new weapon can be just as dangerous. There was a tragedy here in Boston that underlines that problem of what exactly can be considered "less than lethal". After the 2004 ALCS victory a young college girl was killed by a "less than lethal" weapon.
when she's ready for her first job, we will give her part time work instead of her having to get a job in some fast food joint or convenience store
"Back in the day" I started working for a fast food restaurant when i was old enough... If that wasn't sufficient motivation to obtain a quality education, I don't know what else in my life could have been.
;-) As Oscar Wilde put it, "Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes."
Give the kid the chance to find out what she "doesn't" want to do and programming might appear as a more attractive option
Caller: Hi boss, :cough cough: won't be able to :cough: come in today. :cough, sneeze: 'click'.
That reminds me,
Q: How many members of Congress does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. There is nothing wrong with the lightbulb; its conditions are improving every day. Any reports of its lack of incandesence are delusional spin from the liberal media. That lightbulb has served honorably, and anything you say undermines the lighting effort. Why do you hate freedom?!?
Nuff said.
What? No link? ;-)
Suddenly ADHD seems less bothersome...
Probably more like Blizzard has decided that people paranoid about having their accounts compromised have become such a serious market segment that it can eke out a few more pennies selling these dongles for 6 euros a pop.
If you played then you would know how big a problem this actually is. I can't even start to count how many real life friends have had their accounts hacked despite more than adaquate passwords. Then throw in friends online who have gone through the same ordeal and the numbers become rather staggering.
The process of getting your account back is a pain, requiring you fill out a form then fax it in with a copy of your license! (black and white of course). This process takes about a week.
I won't disagree that Blizz should be more concerned correcting the problem some other way, perhaps by putting the multi millions they are making to good use. But save us your rediculous conspiracy theories. Ex- If they were really trying to make money, wouldn't a "Super premium Account Restoration Service" be a better idea? Ugh.
Water powered car one day, oil creating carbon negative microbes the next...What i want to know, WHERE IS MY DAMN FLYING CAR!?
You're right on.
So here's my question, is this encryption going to start the old "license for one PC" deal we are familiar with? Because how many gamers create new rigs, modify or change parts, then want to reinstall the old game they played on their former PC? How about when the gamer (me) has a couple PCs with the same game on it and although he only uses one at a time, is he still infringing?
This is rediculous, I pray PC games do not become like OEM licensed Windows where you're allowed one install on one PC. They've already pulled some pretty rediculous DRM thanks to Sony's SecuROM software on games like BioShock (which i never bought due to that) and other games Spore and Mass Effect. When will the pain end?
Hey sonny... Back in my day we dug trenches many miles long, uphill both ways, in the snow and tumultuous weather! Them days we were layin them there telegraph wires, but the lesson applies!
Well now "the man" knows this and the gig is up... thanks a bunch you insensitive clod!
FYI, Here is a related slashvertisement (sry). Staples offers data recovery services in partnership with Seagate. In this person's case for a physical failure it would be a flat fee $1,500. If the data is recovered, it is sent back in an external hard drive. If the data cannot be recovered there is no charge, period. RAID configs unfortunately do not fall under this flat pricing.
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18. The method of claim 17, further comprising:encrypting the information when communicated beyond the user; andverifying the authentication and authorization properties of recipients before communicating the information to the recipients.
Oh thank you, I feel much better now...
Just like hard drive manufacturers are they measuring per 1000KB? I'd put money they will try to pull this. Buyer beware of your magical cap shrinkage...
Wouldn't matter if the machine is just farming the info and immediately sending over the net elsewhere... But with that said, revenge is a dis(k) best served cold!