Ubuntu 8.04 Released
Nate2 writes "The Hardy Heron has taken flight: it's the second LTS (Long Term Support) release of the world's most popular distro. New features include the Wubi Windows installer and Firefox 3 beta 5. Grab a copy here, and check out Linux Format's overview of the release."
It's beta. It's also widely unsupported right now and doesn't work with several plug-ins I love to use. I do like some of the built in features of it, and use it on several of my systems, but I don't see it as belonging in an OS Release.
This would be why I usually wait a month or so before I upgrade to the newest version of Ubuntu. I expect open-source stuff to have bugs but they fix most of them; it just takes little time. For now I'm hanging on to Gutsy until the rush dies down.
As for the WPA password...did you check the Keyring settings? Chances are that a config file was modified, switching the default save setting...if I had to guess.
Slashdot should start using Ubuntu's symbol instead of Debian's. Oh and, I'm downloading via the torrent right now.
The channel operators
So wait, let me get this straight: people went on IRC, asked particularly stupid questions, and got banned for it?
Stop the presses, we've got headline news right here!
I hope you donate to the project in this case
Happy Birthday!
Summation 2
*That's* the answer to get Linux on the desktop (and lots of work for people who can support Linux). Flood the nations with free Linux CDs - AOL style!
Make out it's a time limited free offer - and that it's usually £129!
Get your own free personal location tracker
This is Linux, not Windows. Don't pretend there's some sort of fire when there isn't one.
It won't kill you, or cause you machine to become part of some botnet, just because you
upgraded a week or two later...
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
"If[...]you don't know why you'd want/need linux, then there probably isn't much point."
Oddly, I didn't know why I'd want/need linux (aside from being told it was a lot less crash prone than Win 95) until I had been using it for awhile. It was only after getting comfortable with it that I really started poking around and discovered the myriad of neat things I could do with a home computer that I never thought of doing because, on Windows, it wasn't just there.
It is like WAY back when I had a C64 and it came with BASIC so you could write your own programs. Because it was just there, I did. With DOS 5, Windows 3 and 95, it wasn't just there so I never even thought about doing anything like that.
Is...was....err....was that a joke?
That could be either a joke or someone who is just underinformed. Being as torrents get the most attention (in the mainstream, at least) for illegal traffic, it shouldn't surprise anyone to encounter people who actually believe that all torrent traffic is illegal.
And of course, there are copyrights involved with Ubuntu Linux. However most of them are more than a little bit more permissive than those on "Enter Sandman".
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
IMO it's still not fast enough for those of us that must have the latest, greatest stable version of Ubuntu. However, the shipit disks are a great way to prove that Linux and Ubuntu is professional quality. A burned CD looks illegal, a printed CD in a nice case looks like something worth whatever the cost, then when you tell them it's free, their sold.
You know, good distro have both at the same time. Why changing the os to change the WM ?!?
sudo apt-get remove firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox-2
Not that difficult.
I run Ubuntu skinned to look like a Mac on a PC. Go figure.
Yes, you can have KDE and Gnome both installed at the same time. sudo apt-get install kde-desktop. This'll change the bootup logo to be the Kubuntu version, but on the login screen you'll be able to choose your session, and choose KDE or Gnome depending on what you feel like getting into.
I go back and forth every few months personally. I like the simplicity of Gnome, they make the features I want most easily available to me.
But then I'll find some corner case which I simply can't do with Gnome (eg Gnome mis-detecting a file type and refusing to let you open it because the file contents don't match the extension), then I fire up KDE for a while, revel in the many, many options to tweak, dork around with those for a while before discovering this stuff actually gets in the way of my productivity when I'm not just tooling around, and end up going back to Gnome again.
No matter what desktop I'm using, I end up using programs from the alternate environment. For example, I always use Kate as my text editor, Amarok as my media library, and Kopete as my IM client (all KDE apps).
Slay a dragon... over lunch!
I'll give you an example of why not:
Right now, in your Linux machine, open a terminal window and install that program to create music with music sheet and then play it. Something similar to GuitarPro.
So, what will you do? first, you have to know how do you *install* things (the command to install??? aptget? apt-get? apt_get? or aptitude or optitude?? mmm lets tray install? or was it depackg? or dpkag? or rpminstall? or yam? or yem?
After you find one of those commands who do not return "bash: auptda-get: command not found" you have to guess what is the sub-command (or parameter) that will actually install whatever you want to install... mmm lets try dpkg install... o shit no luck, dpkg get mmmm dpkg add??
Well, you know that there are some stuff called man pages which tell you some information. mmmm lets see "man..."
What manual page do you want?
Oh crap, what page number i should use for the installation of programs?
and so on and so on...
until you know that apt-get install will install your program... but you have one problem
"apt-get install guitar program" just tells you that there is no program called guitar program so, what is your program called?? how do you know your what is your program called...
aah well. That is only for installing a program. Imagin trying to do some more complex tasks.
The fact that you think it is very easy to use the command line is because you already know what to type. The probelm with the command line is that when you *do not* know what to type you have 256^n (number of keys ^ number of letters to type) different possibilities to try.
Whereas in a GUI you either have checkboxes or lists or whatever (unless you use one of those open source frontends that, when you go to the configuration screen, they just give you a blank text box asking you to input the parameters... shit, WHAT PARAMETERS?)
Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
..who haven't done their homework. I've been struggling to teach myself this shit for a long time, and despite trying very hard to learn on my own and use the available resources, I still get lost sometimes. So I ask questions from those who are likely to know. There's no need to be condescending.The scary part is that the OP believes this. That means the *IAA actually has the general public believing that torrents are illegal. Here we have proof positive that there is a legal use, as every 6 months the net gets a huge kick in the teeth from LEGAL downloads, but the general public doesn't believe it. Unless we fix that we have lost the war, regardless of the facts.
Maybe I'm the only one, but ITunes is a great music server, and I use it exclusively without ever having gone to ITunes Music Store. There is nothing about using ITunes that demands or requires DRM. ITMS does have most of it's music DRMed (or so I hear) but again this has nothing to do with ITunes the music player/organizer program.