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Getting the "Free" Business Model Wrong Doesn't Mean the Model is Flawed

While "free" seems to be an increasingly popular business model, there are quite a few people who seem to be completely bungling what to do with "free" and then complaining when it doesn't work. Techdirt takes a look at some of the arguments surrounding why free as a business model may or may not work and why many of these arguments, while prevalent, just don't hold water. "you give away the infinite goods, not the scarce goods. Your time is a scarce good. No one is saying that everything needs to be free -- they're saying that infinite goods will be free, because of it's very nature in economics. In fact, Poole's argument is particularly weak when it comes to programmers, because most programmers don't earn any kind of royalties for the software they write. They are paid a salary, for their time -- but not for the software itself (which is an infinite good). And, I won't even get into the number of programmers who work on open source projects for free ... or the fact that Poole is blogging for free ..."

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  1. Re:I laugh by jeiler · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wish I could be so lucky. My boss won't let FOSS anywhere near the system with the exception of one lonely PC set up as a webserver. He knows commercial software has its problems--his biggest problem with FOSS is "lack of support." I've tried showing him that there is support available, but when he wants support, he wants to be able to pick up a phone and get an answer the same business day.

    Of course, this is the same boss who says "I'm not using anything I need to compile myself." Go figure!

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  2. Re:I laugh by basiles · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wish I could be so lucky. My boss won't let FOSS anywhere near the system with the exception of one lonely PC set up as a webserver. He knows commercial software has its problems--his biggest problem with FOSS is "lack of support." I've tried showing him that there is support available, but when he wants support, he wants to be able to pick up a phone and get an answer the same business day.

    He can buy that kind of support. Of course, it is probably expensive!
  3. A good example? by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article makes a plausible argument, but fails to give any real world examples.

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    1. Re:A good example? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Mozilla, MySQL, (insert linux distro here), and plenty of others offer services and software for free. They also offer "premium" services, but nonetheless, there's a big 'free' portion of their business model. Google is another example of offer many services for free. Nine Inch Nails just made a load of money off an album that was written under the creative commons license, so its absolutely free to distribute if you own it.

  4. Some people have to blame others. by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some people will always blame others for their failures. It's just that right now it is fashionable to bash Free Software.

    I believe that this is because more people are trying to make $$MILLIONS$$ personally (remember the old Microsoft millionaires) on software that other people have written.

    Essentially, they're trying to put an artificial bottleneck between the consumers and the product so they can extract money from the bottleneck. Lots of money. When they don't get lots of money, they whine. When someone else renders the bottleneck ineffective, they whine.

  5. Ecosystems come in many flavors by postbigbang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's the OS model as manifested by Ubuntu, RH, SUSE, and others. Each has different market motivators and success.

    There's the cool-app model, like MySQL, Apache, and others that depend on application support and transparency across a lot of software disciplines.

    There's the vertical app model, like Asterisk, that uses hardware/software/extensions to motivate the community, each making a few cents in within sub-markets.

    There's the 'fringe' app (not said in a deragotory way) that uses a shareware-like valuing through paypal, donationware, and other 'love of the art'/hacker's bent.

    And these are only a sampling of general categories. F/OSS in the Stallman model doesn't have to be a vow of poverty. On the contrary, we're only scratching the surface of how F/OSS makes money.

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  6. How ignorant. by Score+Whore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder at Techdirt's economic and business background. They make a fundamental error in they're argument that programmers are being paid for their time and not for their code. The problem is that most every programmer who is being paid for their time, doesn't own the code they produce. Those who are contracting aren't being paid for their time, they're being paid for a solution to a problem. The remaining few who are paid for their time but negotiated up front for a free license are so rare that they're basically ignorable.

    The fact that they've made such a basic blunder in understanding the actual mechanics of the industry makes me wonder, even in the presence of their semi-sophisticated talk of scarcity, what they actually know about business.

    1. Re:How ignorant. by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I recently got paid for my time developing a product, negotiated an open license for it, and retained copyright to the code. I think if more programmers were simple aware of these options, and knew how to show their customers the benefits of such arrangements, we'd have a lot adoption of this practice.

    2. Re:How ignorant. by cduffy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been the employer allowing a contractor to keep copyright to his code. Why? The contractor was the maintainer of HylaFAX+, and was offering to do custom work for us at a very reasonable price provided we made that policy exception; otherwise, his rates were much, much higher. In addition to fixing bugs on a timeframe that matched with our release schedule (rather than the as-time-permits bugfix schedule for regular OSS users), he added integration points and hooks where we could connect to our custom, proprietary code. Everyone -- including our competition -- has access to those hooks, but we were the folks with the code (both in our product and in the glue) to take immediate and best advantage of them.

      We even released some of our less proprietary related bits upstream to the community -- such as scriptage for using Inkscape as a just-in-time SVG renderer for much fancier cover pages than HylaFAX was able to handle on its own. Why? Because I wrote them in-house, and I wasn't going to be there (or working on faxing) forever; having those bits (which weren't exactly "secret sauce", just a little bit of extra flare) in the public consciousness meant that whoever ends up taking over the fax subsystem (of our much, much larger product) now that I'm gone will be able to pick up any third-party enhancements to that code which have been made upstream -- and maybe, just maybe, having that example available of what the enhancements we paid to add to HylaFAX+ can do will result in the HylaFAX.org branch deciding to pick them up, meaning that customers owning fax hardware only the iFax commercial variant of HylaFAX.org can interoperate with would be able to use that hardware with our product.

    3. Re:How ignorant. by pipatron · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh. I always thought the word Free in the movie title Free Willy actually meant to free something from its bonds, not that someone gave away a whale.

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  7. TANSTAAFL by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No human effort is free. All human efforts require time and energy, overhead and maintenance. This is more so true when the efforts are subsidized by a company. When a contributor gives effort to the improvement of software that is to be made freely available to all he (or she) is engaged in a contract wherein he can expect a benefit called "progress."

    Such a contributor may offer this up for the benefit of all, but that point is not important to the contract. As long as there are two contributors in the world so involved that their efforts benefit each other the terms of the contract are kept and the benefit is achieved. That there are many, many contributors so engaged amplifies the benefit for all.

    Progress benefits us everyone. Perhaps "free" isn't the right word after all.

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  8. Re:I laugh by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ask him when the last time was he picked up the phone and called MS and asked them for support? What kind of response did he get? How much did they charge? Then look at the kind of and cost of support available for products like Red Hat. Ask him how what MS provides is better.

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  9. Paying for your time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, since the software itself is free, and all revenue is generated from service contracts and tech support, who pays for the time that went into the original software?

    If the software was perfect, ie the original programmers had put enough time into it to completely debug the code, the user interface was simple and intuitive, no conflicts with other programs arose, etc...
        there would be no need for tech-support
        there would be no income from the software

    So by giving away the software free, does that encourage buggy programming?

    ABIL

    1. Re:Paying for your time by init100 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Support does not only mean a help desk and bug fixes, but also include customization and integration with the customers' existing systems. Even if you would write perfect bug-free software, those two demands wouldn't magically vanish.

  10. yes it does (communism) by Deanalator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A good business model is simple and robust enough that it's hard to screw up. If a company is brave enough to try a "free" business model, and it fails, it was probably explained to them in poor and simplistic terms.

    Once you start tacking on conditionals and making the model more complex, it is no longer a good business model. Blaming companies that can't figure it out helps no one.

    Just because you have an idea that works well in a theoretical context, and there have been a few success stories, does not mean that it's a good model.

  11. Another big point... by argent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not that things ought to be free because they can be free -- but that things will be free because that's just basic economics. Price gets driven to marginal cost in a competitive market, and the reason it happens is because others do learn to put in place business models that work, and then if you're the lone holdout, people start to ignore you.

    This is just the limiting case of the market. This is what destroyed DEC and other big hardware companies that tried to avoid producing cheap computers that would outcompete their high margin ones. People didn't buy the VAX instead of their desktop PDP-11s running stripped down RSX (P/OS, what a perfect name for an OS that was), people bought desktop micros that had processors that might have sucked compared to the LSI-11... but they cost so much less that there was no demand for something in the middle.

    So now one of the things that's hurting traditionally marketed music sales is nontraditionally marketed music. The marginal cost of production of music is now nearly zero, therefore if you can make enough money to make it worthwhile to keep selling a small number of CDs at CDBABY based on the free samples you give away at LAST.FM, why wouldn't you? If you can get your music onto iTunes and Amazon for nothing, and get modest sales and the possibility of better sales (look at how Jonathan Coulton's doing, eh?), you're going to do that as well as playing gigs and trying to get the attention of the big labels and all the other stuff that musicians have been doing for years.

    And so people like me get our music from last.fm and 3hive.com and Amazon and iTunes and don't bother going to the record store or listening to the radio (which is all the same Clear Channel approved pulp anyway)... because it's getting easier and easier to find out about the people who are making free work for them... mostly free, just enough that's not free to keep the people making the free stuff to keep people like me going "hey, that's good, I'll get their album" now and then...

  12. Re:IANAB and I did not RTFA, but.. by Score+Whore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And what's the value of something that doesn't exist? Until someone comes along and creates the work you consider to be available in infinite quantity, it's only available on zero quantity. Given that that is the extreme end of scarcity no amount of money will allow you to buy it. Does that make the act of creation of infinite value?

    Maybe you shouldn't try and hang your economic philosophy on old ideas of supply and demand?

  13. Entreprenuer Barbie: "Business is hard!" by argent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A good business model is simple and robust enough that it's hard to screw up.

    All business models are easy to screw up. Most new companies fail within a very few years.

    This isn't a matter of blaming companies, it's a matter of recognizing reality.

    Just because you have an idea that works well in a theoretical context, and there have been a few success stories, does not mean that it's a good model.

    The article wasn't about a business model, it was about why some business models work and others don't. There are many business models that involve giving away one good to promote the sales of other goods that you can sell at a higher margin. "Give away the razor and sell the blades" is a business model, and obviously a successful one, but do you expect to get into that business today, without a lot of effort and luck?

    The first lesson this article is trying to impart is that when you have a good that has a high marginal cost of production, and one that has a low marginal cost of production, you are probably not going to succeed if you give away a lot of the ones that cost you a lot to produce, but you may be able to succeed if you can give away the ones that don't cost much to produce to drive the sales of the higher cost one.

    The second is that there are many business models that can be based on the fact that some goods have a zero marginal cost of production. If you are going to make a living that way, you need to come up with one of them. But just noticing that a good has a zero marginal cost of production isn't a business model.

  14. Using the FREE model with music by politicsapocalypse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Last month I released Politics Apocalypse, a full length album using the creative commons licence attribution 3.0. This allows you to use the music however you please (including in commercial projects) so long as you give credit. Since last month we have had over 3000 album downloads. We accept donations, and we have a name-your-own-price CD; which is a unique concept where you can name your own price (starting at cost price) for a CD. We have had some orders and heaps of positive feedback. We have just added a new members area of the website. The members area contains new songs as they are finished, available to members long before they are released in album form to the rest of the world. Anyone who supports us by donating, ordering a CD (name-your-own-price) or submitting creative feedback are given an account. Hopefully this new addition will encourage donations, as so far the number of donations and CD orders are much lower than the number of album downloads and positive feedback. I realise that the created music is an infinite good, but it would be nice to get some support for the amount of time it takes to create. The statistics of downloads/orders etc are on the website. http://www.politicsapocalypse.com/

  15. Re:I laugh by baffled · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe I'm too proud, or maybe I'm too cheap - but I've never contacted support from either MS or Red Hat. Perhaps someone who has could detail their experiences here? I'm interested to see how they compare.

  16. Straw man argument by Seska · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Score, you know better than that and you shouldn't be trying to use inflammatory rhetoric. The fact that a price/demand curve tends to a 0 price in no way implies that it goes infinite price.

    In some cases there is no pre-creation demand, because no-one knows they want it. Examples include music from unknown artists, fiction from unknown authors, etc. In other cases the demand is better (though not perfectly) known: a new Radiohead album, an Indiana Jones movie, or spaceflight for tourists.

  17. "Free" vs "Unlimited" - how Craigslist is losing by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The "free" model is breaking down for Craigslist. I just wrote an article about this on Techdirt. Craigslist allows free ads, but not unlimited free ads. The intent is to allow individuals to post a few ads a week. But for some advertisers, that's not enough.

    Craigslist has all the usual defenses. They have limits on how much each account can post. They have a CAPTCHA. They have E-mail account validation. They check for excessive posting from one IP address. And they have a flagging system to catch any remaining spam.

    All those defenses have been breached. There are power tools for Craiglist spammers. Commercially available power tools. Multiple accounts are created for ad spamming. OCR is used to break the CAPTCHA. Jiffy Gmail Creator ("Who Else Wants to Create Unlimited Gmail Accounts in Seconds Flat Without Breaking a Sweat?") is used to create vast numbers of GMail accounts to receive the account validation replies. IP proxies are used to get around per-IP limitations. Postings flagged off are automatically reposted.

    Against these industrial strength automated posting tools, Craigslist is losing. Major areas of the site are over 90% spam, and angry users are deserting the site. Craigslist is trying phone verification, but even that has been broken. (Read the Techdirt article and the Black Hat SEO forums for how that's done.)

    Craigslist is being hit because it's the biggest free ad site, but attack tools are available for other ad and social networking sites. You can read about it on the "Black Hat SEO" forums.

  18. Re:IANAB and I did not RTFA, but.. by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Anthing that is available in an infinite quantity should be free." No, what he's saying is that anything available in an infinite quantity will be free. That's just basic economics. The trick is to tie the free infinite good to a scarce good. If you get the business model right, the free infinite good will drive demand for the scarce good.
  19. Re:I laugh by AlecC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From my experience, you can buy support for any FOSS package worth mentioning, at a price that still beats commercial rivals. It is also my experience that the support thus purchased is outstandingly better than that for paid-for software. Problem responses within four hours, from somebody who really understands the system, instead of taking to weeks to dig through layers of ignoramuses to get to the expert. This, I conjecture, is because FOSS support teams live or die by the quality of support, whereas paid-for software put the best developers onto new features and regard support as very much a second-line function.

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  20. I still don't get it. by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful
    [flame suit on]

    I still don't get it.

    My brother writes books and magazine articles. He gets paid for his books and articles. He also publishes some stuff 'for free' on his blog (there's a free e/audio-book on there right now for instance). However, his core, major work isn't free. This way he can afford to feed and clothe his children. If he gave his stuff away, or asked for contributions he wouldn't make any money (he knows this because he's tried unsuccessfully).

    How does an author who writes 8 hours a day make a living if he gives his stuff away?

    Or does he become a carpenter and write for fun an hour or two a week because writing is not a 'career path', but being a mechanic or carpenter is?

    Please explain.

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  21. Re:I laugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your boss does not want support. He just wants to cover his ass. If you have downtime because of a MS bug that takes months to fix, he can point the finger to MS and probably get away with it.
    If this happens with a FOSS product, upper management will start asking questions and eventually blame him for the choice of software. Your boss knows this.

  22. Re:I laugh by Rakishi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who do you sue when things go wrong? Cry because that's about all you can do, you've already agreed when buying the software that you do not hold the maker liable for anything.
  23. Re:I laugh by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They stop at that point because they relize that the free software is better than the commercial software
    I'll just stop you there. Free software is generally very good, but the top spot of most (all?) software fields is usually occupied by a piece of (often expensive) proprietary software. For instance, open office just isn't quite as good as Microsoft Office, the GIMP isn't as good as Photoshop, Rosegarden isn't as good as finale, etc. Still, for zero dollars down, they have my support (even if they sometimes don't have the support of professionals in the field).
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  24. Re:I laugh by RodgerDodger · · Score: 4, Funny

    You do realise they probably spent the week writing the page, right?

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