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Dell Found Guilty of Fraud, False Advertising

Last year, the Attorney General of New York instigated a lawsuit against Dell for practices like long hold times, repeated call transfers, and disconnects for customers waiting for phone support — all of which make it harder to cash in on promises of (and paid-for) technical support." Now, raptor78 writes "IDG News reports on New York Attorney General's victory over the poor services and deceptive practices employed by Dell over the past years with regards to technical support and promotional offers. It is about time someone spoke up and realized some of the horrors people deal with at Dell." Another reader points to a quick report from Fortune magazine on the ruling.

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  1. It's just business? by autophile · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like this quote at the end of the article. Are they ha ha only serious?

    ...Dell said in a statement. "We believe that our customer service levels are at or above industry standards."
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    1. Re:It's just business? by Divebus · · Score: 4, Funny

      I found a great way to deal with the "sales-pitch-when-you're-trying-to-cancel-service" routine...

      Tangential to this is dealing with Telemarketers. I do the "We Don't Use That" method which I found on the Internet somewhere - and it works:

      TM: How much copier toner do you need today?
      ME: We don't use copiers.
      TM: You don't? How about printers?
      ME: We don't print anything either. Not one printer here.
      TM: Oh... Ok, then have a nice day.

      TM: You've won 4 days and 3 nights at Time Share Harbor in Orlando.
      ME: Sorry, I can't travel. I'm under house arrest for the next eight years.
      TM: Oh... uh... sorry to bother you. Goodbye.

      TM: Hi, I'm with MegaTeleNet and we can aggregate all your phone and Internet services
      ME: We don't use Internet and this is a payphone.
      TM: Don't use Internet? How does your business survive without Internet?
      ME: Don't need it - all of our customers are walk-ins.
      TM: Oh... sorry to bother you. Goodbye.

      TM: Hi, we can save your business thousands of dollars with our new light bulbs.
      ME: We don't use light bulbs here.
      TM: You don't? How do you see anything?
      ME: Everything here is natural lighting and we leave at dusk.
      TM: Oh... sorry to bother you. Have a nice day.

      TM: Would you like to save a bundle on long distance?
      ME: We don't use any long distance service.
      TM: You don't make any long distance calls?
      ME: No, all of our customers are local.
      TM: Oh... sorry to bother you.

      Of course the correct answer to the last one is "We use Skype."


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    2. Re:It's just business? by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I had a friend who would always answer telemarketing calls with "Could you call back later? I'm masturbating"

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    3. Re:It's just business? by rugatero · · Score: 2, Funny
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  2. Dell guy quoteth: by Applekid · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Dude, you're getting a fine!"

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  3. Re:This is a no-brainer by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    the accent comment also means any strong accent, even southern or north eastern ones. Yeah, there's nothing I hate more than calling tech support and getting Mayor Quimby.
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  4. Re:Are there ANY big box companies with good servi by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm serious, this is a good discussion point. I disagree, it's not a good discussion point.

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  5. Wrong ad for the article by jmichaelg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sometimes computer-placed advertising just ain't what it's cut out to be.

    On the way to rtfa, a full-screen Dell ad popped up.

    Or perhaps, the software is very, very clever and Dell was trying to discourage me from continuing on to read the article.

  6. Re:This is a no-brainer by PawNtheSandman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Beats getting Apu who spends 5 minutes trying to convince you his name is "Steve".

  7. Well, yes. That's the problem. by swm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dell said in a statement. "We believe that our customer service levels are at or above industry standards."

  8. Re:This is a no-brainer by SwordsmanLuke · · Score: 4, Funny

    True story: An Indian telemarketer called my brother one day and gave his name as "Abraham Lincoln." Apparently, they had been instructed to use Western names...

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  9. Re:This is a no-brainer by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Support's the sort of thing that makes you customers for life or loses customers for life

    Customers? Fuck the customers. Who needs customers? Customers are a dime a dozen. There are six billion prospective customers on this planet and there are more customers born every day.

    That's the 21st century way of doing business.

    As to the accent, you won't find many American accents that can't be parsed by someone in America. The accent has two bad things in people's minds. First, when you call someone for support you expect them to speak the language that you used to buy the product, and what's more to speak it fluently and understandably.

    Second, if the phone jockey has a foreign accent, the person calling for support is reminded that the thieving, unpatriotic bastards they bought the product from are shipping American jobs overseas. Nobody likes a traitor, and an "American" company that ships jobs overseas is seen by working people as traitorous. Because you know, it IS traitorous. Only a traitor sells out his native country for filthy lucre.

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  10. Not my experience at all by FranTaylor · · Score: 2, Funny

    I find Vonage to be very helpful.

    OF course, I:

    - figure out everything I can and have the info at my fingertips when I call
    - always treat the person on the other end of the phone with courtesy and respect, even when the only verb tense they know is present participle
    - don't expect miracles from entry-level tech support
    - have been with them for years and they value me as a customer

  11. Which car company do you work for? by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Funny

    A major one.

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  12. Re:Triumph or tragedy? by wolf12886 · · Score: 2, Funny

    My god, it appears Adware has finally made the jump to humans.

  13. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've been in the computer industry for over 15 years and involved wkstn and server purchasing and have most always recommended Dell. Sure I've had my moments where I was pissed as hell at them but have you ever tried dealing with some of the other big boys?? HP/Compaq ..LOL ... IBM pcs were the last big lot of computers that I purchased other than Dell and that was 13 years ago. That was a fairly good deal but imho, Dell has always had the best support out of the lot. Now don't get me wrong, that's not saying much. On a scale of 1 to 10 they're about 6.5 with the next closest at 5 or lower.

  14. Re:Hmm..that's odd.. by Collective+0-0009 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the GP has been in tech since '92 and hasn't heard a thing good about Dell, he's in his Mom's basement, deaf, or works for HP. SHILLL!!!!!

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  15. Re:Dude! Yer gettin' a slap on the wrist. by spun · · Score: 2, Funny

    I concede the point.

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  16. Re:This is a no-brainer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If he asked for your brothers name, he should have used wikipedia's page on Hindu Gods, then tape the conversation.

  17. Re:Dude! Yer gettin' a slap on the wrist. by spun · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seize the assets and give it to the employees then, they can probably run it better than a corrupt management, don't you think?

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