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Google Earth, Now With Browser Goodness

Google announced this week that their Google Earth application can now be used from the browser, instead of having to download and install the desktop application. "Google also launched an JavaScript API that lets you interact with the globe, draw markers, add layers or integrate with Google Maps. 'The Google Earth Plug-in and its APIs let you embed the full power of Google Earth and its 3D rendering capabilities into your web pages.' Google LatLong blog announced that each Google Maps mashup can take advantage of the new 3D view by adding a single line of code. 'Our goal is to open up the entire core of Google Earth to developers in the hopes that you'll build the next great geo-based 3D application, and change how we view the world.'"

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  1. Google Earth wasn't sending enough data home by GigaHurtsMyRobot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now they can connect your browsing habits with your satellite voyeurism.

    1. Re:Google Earth wasn't sending enough data home by WED+Fan · · Score: 1

      Now they can connect your browsing habits with your satellite voyeurism.

      Awww, come on, that was funny.

      Did someone give mod points to a Google worker?

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    2. Re:Google Earth wasn't sending enough data home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now they can connect your browsing habits with your satellite voyeurism.
  2. When does... by xpuppykickerx · · Score: 1

    Google : Journey to the Center of the Earth come out? Or even better Google Mars!

    1. Re:When does... by LiquidFire_HK · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google Mars already exists.

    2. Re:When does... by xpuppykickerx · · Score: 1

      Kinda weak! but thanks.

    3. Re:When does... by glas_gow · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google Sky also exists, although I don't know if it's new or old (I had trouble finding it).

    4. Re:When does... by lexbaby · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Google Moon!

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  3. Why, why, why by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So now it can run substantially on a (huge) plug-in inside my browser. How is this different or more convenient just because the window is wrapped in the browser.

    Seems everything must run inside the browser these days. When can I get windows vista for firefox?

    1. Re:Why, why, why by mmkkbb · · Score: 4, Informative

      You could theoretically embed this in a web page where one would use maps now.

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    2. Re:Why, why, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      But then it would no longer be a web page.

    3. Re:Why, why, why by alittlespice · · Score: 1

      As soon as Microsoft can get Vista work for IE, or get it to work at all.

    4. Re:Why, why, why by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

      When can I get windows vista for firefox? It's not likely to be available for firefox, but soon you will be able to run it within emacs.
    5. Re:Why, why, why by GweeDo · · Score: 1

      No theoretically here. If you already have Google Maps you just add this line:
      map.addMapType(G_SATELLITE_3D_MAP);

      That is it.

    6. Re:Why, why, why by MobyDisk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder what kinds of interesting and useful things one could do with that ability.
      - See recent places you've searched?
      - Find out where you and your friends live?
      - Access files on your hard drive?

      Sorry to sound overly skeptical, but I remember when Microsoft thought that browser plug-ins were a great idea so they made Office embeddable inside a browser. Then came 10 years of security hell.

    7. Re:Why, why, why by Danathar · · Score: 1

      yea....I DEMAND to run Virtualbox or VMware as a plugin for my browser! Why? Cause that would be COOL!

    8. Re:Why, why, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When can I get windows vista for firefox? You have been able to do this for some time. For example GoToMyPC and VNC

    9. Re:Why, why, why by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

      Or just provide a KML to launch the standalone GE

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    10. Re:Why, why, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Since you mentioned it, there is a Linux variant that runs under a Java X86 emulator in a browser. One could use virtualizaiton to put Vista on said emulator.

    11. Re:Why, why, why by Ibiwan · · Score: 1

      www.fanbox.com

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    12. Re:Why, why, why by mungmaster2000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      When can I get Bonzai Buddy for Firefox?

    13. Re:Why, why, why by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      Yes, but this way you can do those mashups that the kids like these days.

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    14. Re:Why, why, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the purpose is to integrate the Google Earths services with your web content and databases. Basically just a more visually interesting way to display data than the usual Google map.

    15. Re:Why, why, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I DEMAND to run Virtualbox or VMware as a plugin for my browser!
      You're in luck: VMware Server 2.0 no longer runs as a separate application, but instead is administered entirely within your web browser.

      (It's annoying enough that I've begun migrating to VirtualBox, after many years as a loyal VMware user.)
    16. Re:Why, why, why by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > > When can I get windows vista for firefox?
      > It's not likely to be available for firefox, but soon you will be able to run it within emacs.

      Running in Emacs, though, you wouldn't really need most of Vista, because Emacs is already better. Emacs already has good file management facilities, a better mailreader than the one that comes with Vista, and a better and more flexible sidebar. The minibuffer is a more than merely adequate substitute for Vista's much-lauded Start Search feature, and Vista doesn't even have anything like the modeline. Emacs also comes with rather a lot more applications out of the box than Vista, including more games.

      The really big difference, though, is in window-management paradigm. Emacs does its window management at three levels: what Vista calls "windows" are called buffers in Emacs. Then there are pane-like things (which Emacs calls windows), which are more like the windows in the ion window manager, in that they don't overlap. And then there are frames in Emacs, which are similar to the virtual desktops in Gnome and KDE; typically you switch between these frames with Alt-tab. Vista does not have three levels of window management.

      Also, Vista only has a single-entry clipboard, instead of a proper kill ring. And it doesn't have built-in regular expression support. And cmd.exe is much less powerful than eshell. I could go on, but you get the idea.

      What does Vista have that you'd *want* in Emacs? DRM?

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  4. Unfortunately by gnick · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunately, as with the current version of Google Earth, it does not support proxies requiring authentication... Not sure which version this changed in, but older versions work fine.

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  5. Not compatible with: by Andy_R · · Score: 5, Informative

    All Linux browsers
    Firefox (Macintosh)
    Safari (all platforms)
    Firefox 3 (all platforms)
    Opera (all platforms)... ... and so on

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    1. Re:Not compatible with: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, nothing to see here, please move on...

    2. Re:Not compatible with: by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      All Linux browsers
      Firefox (Macintosh)
      Safari (all platforms)
      Firefox 3 (all platforms)
      Opera (all platforms)... ... and so on I never expected to see Google release something that was (practically) IE exclusive...
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    3. Re:Not compatible with: by exley · · Score: 0

      I never expected to see Google release something that was (practically) IE exclusive... Why?
    4. Re:Not compatible with: by dave420 · · Score: 1

      But it's still compatible with over 80% of the browsers out there ;)

    5. Re:Not compatible with: by Jason+Earl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But it's still compatible with over 80% of the browsers out there ;)

      Sure, once the end user downloads a plugin.

      This new software runs on almost precisely the same number of computers as the old one, but now it has the added advantage that Microsoft can break it every time they rev their browser.

      Oh yeah, that's progress.

    6. Re:Not compatible with: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All Linux browsers - small number of users
      Firefox (Macintosh) - even smaller
      Safari (all platforms) - larger number than Fx Mac but still smaller than all Linux
      Firefox 3 (all platforms) - not even released yet
      Opera (all platforms)... - see first point above ... and so on - indeed

    7. Re:Not compatible with: by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      I never expected to see Google release something that was (practically) IE exclusive... Why? Presumably because they are not evil?
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    8. Re:Not compatible with: by hvm2hvm · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      No, assuming a thickness of a hence pi*z*z*a. Is your brain rejecting words randomly? I feel bad because I lowered to the level where I explained it.

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    9. Re:Not compatible with: by dave420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure, but it also means it can be embedded in a web-page, and interfaced with via javascript. No more downloading KML files and waiting for Google Earth to load them, the webpage can directly show you what it's describing. That IS progress. Just think how useful Google Maps would be in a stand-alone application, compared to how useful it is now. The fact it can be extended using JS and presented in a web-page is how it really becomes useful. But I guess it's more fun to ignore all that and just have a pop at Microsoft, even when this is entirely Google's doing.

    10. Re:Not compatible with: by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 1

      re: A pizza of radius z and thickness a has a volume of pi z z a Assuming a thickness of exactly 1 of whatever measurement you are using. Am I missing something here? Thickness a... so no assumptions are necessary.
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    11. Re:Not compatible with: by LinuxLlama · · Score: 1
    12. Re:Not compatible with: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, does it work with Firefox 2? Maybe it'll work with Iceweasel!

    13. Re:Not compatible with: by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 2, Informative

      The money they pump into mozilla?

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    14. Re:Not compatible with: by torry_loon · · Score: 1

      80%?? Did Microsoft tell you that or do you think it's 1998?

    15. Re:Not compatible with: by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      people consider google one of THE web companies.

      yet they have LOST the notion of platform independance, at least in this case.

      the start of the true downfall of google? (nah, that was when they rated on that guy and let the chinese take that poor dissident away).

      I just can't understand why you'd write a 'web program' and also have WINDOWS CODE in it. boggle!

      the shine is wearing off the google, it seems.

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    16. Re:Not compatible with: by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

      I'm sure Google will make Google Earth compatible with Firefox 3.0, given that Firefox 3.0 is going to be a hugely popular product. I'm not surprised the Google Earth doesn't work with Firefox 3.0 yet given that the new browser has yet to complete its beta test program.

    17. Re:Not compatible with: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Progress is not shoving everything on my desktop into a single window and then waiting for the browser developers to duplicate enough OS functionality to make it all useable.

    18. Re:Not compatible with: by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      Earth Browser recently got a major upgrade which runs in Adobe Air environment. http://www.earthbrowser.com/

      It promises a future option, embedded customized/earthbrowser to put into websites for registered users. I think it will happen thanks to Adobe Air's flash roots.

      It is a shareware program.

    19. Re:Not compatible with: by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Was that supposed to make sense, or was it some kind of joke?

  6. Real markers by abolitiontheory · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... that lets you interact with the globe, draw markers, add layers or integrate with Google Maps ...

    Aww crap! I thought they meant real markers! ...

    Anyone know how to get sharpie out of LCD?

    1. Re:Real markers by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

      Aww crap! I thought they meant real markers! ...

      Anyone know how to get sharpie out of LCD?

      Take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. ;-)

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    2. Re:Real markers by redxxx · · Score: 1

      Anyone know how to get sharpie out of LCD? Isopropyl Alcohol. Particularly if it is one with a shiny coating. The smooth coating will totally protect your monitor, and prevent the sharpie from adhering well.
    3. Re:Real markers by dotancohen · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... that lets you interact with the globe, draw markers, add layers or integrate with Google Maps ...


      Aww crap! I thought they meant real markers! ...


      Anyone know how to get sharpie out of LCD?

      Despite what the manual says, paint thinner cleans LCD monitors just fine. Make sure you put the thinner on the rag, not directly on the screen. Added advantage: the fucking glossy laptop screen is not so glossy anymore. It actually came out more uniform than I would have though had I known beforehand that it would be less glossy.
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  7. Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    3D models for inserting into Google Earth are made with SketchUp, which is a 3D desktop studio available only for Windows, and MacOS, not Linux. When will Google finally release a Linux SketchUp, or at least include its main modeling features into the Web version?

    Or even better, when will there be a simple way to use existing (and good) Linux 3D studio tools to make standard-format datasets that are easily and completely importable into Google Earth (whether desktop or Web)?

    Hell, at this point I'd even settle for a way to import the paths in a 2D PostScript (or PDF) file into something that makes them 2D lines/areas on a 3D canvas that I can put into Google Earth, rotated and positioned for at least an idea of what a fully 3D model would look like. But to do anything like that right now, I need a Mac or a Windows machine.

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    1. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by fotbr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd be interested in any good linux 3d tools at all, but it seems the linux community is happy with blender, and doesn't seem to care that its interface is horrible (ie, the gimp syndrome -- "we want to be different, even at the cost of being good").

      IF you can tolerate blender's handicapped interface, you might be able to export into a form google earth can handle (or, as the forums will tell you "write it yourself").

    2. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google Earth 3D models simply use COLLADA XML format. Sketch up just exports it for you in this way.

      A lot of 3D modeling software supports export to COLLADA, which can be used in KML (google earth).

      For Example:
      Blender
      3DS Max
      Maya

      etc...

    3. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=allOsEHARo8

      Blender isn't any good, you say?

    4. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by dotancohen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When will Google finally release a Linux SketchUp, or at least include its main modeling features into the Web version? Write to them and ask them. You cannot expect them to guess that Linux users exist if you don't contact them, can you?

      While this might not really be the case at google, you really should write to Adobe (photoshop), Intuit (quicken) and other software houses to let them know that we want their products. I make it a point to write to one every week.
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    5. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 1

      Art of Illusion is worth a look if the Blender interface is too daunting. It can export as .obj and extrude 2D shapes quite well...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_Illusion

    6. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC3D

    7. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 1

      OR the "lets not noob up the interface of a image editor, so any old idiot can use it to get rid of red eye"

      Some things are hard, and the best interface to do hard things is a hard one, this isn't just being elitist, I have nothing against joe blogs getting rid of red-eye or making a cool little jpeg logo, but that's now what GIMP is made for, so dont bitch when its not easy.

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    8. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Zironic · · Score: 1

      In my experience the best interface to get hard work done is an easy one, as in intuitive. The time you spend fighting the interface is time that should have been spent getting work done.

    9. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      So I can download a whatever.dae file and its texture images, change the filename from whatever.dae to whatever.kml , and upload that file into Google Earth? And I can download a Google Earth whatever.kml file, rename it to whatever.dae, and open that with Collada or those other apps?

      Is there a way to tell which version Google Earth is compatible with?

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    10. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Do you know anything I can use in Linux to import PostScript paths extracted from a PDF into a 3D model I can edit and export into Google Earth? That is in fact my main use case.

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    11. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by fotbr · · Score: 1

      OR, "lets use something similar (not necessarily identical) so other people can convert easily"

      In the case of GIMP, it simply isn't a substitute for Photoshop for professional work, and the interface is a small part of the reason (mostly a lack of CMYK). And the Photoshop interface certainly isn't "hard" even to do the "hard" things, so I'm not sure where you get the "best interface for hard things is a hard one" bit.

      For 3d work (my real complaint), the blender engine is pretty decent, but the UI is holding it back, because transitioning from other packages makes it unusable. If you were learning blender as your first 3d package, the interface may not be as bad, but it is different enough to keep people from transitioning to it if they already know something else.

    12. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by fotbr · · Score: 1

      I never said the engine wasn't good -- it appears to be pretty decent, and has for quite a while. My complaint is that the UI sucks if you're transitioning to it, that is all.

    13. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by Haeleth · · Score: 1

      Some things are hard, and the best interface to do hard things is a hard one, this isn't just being elitist, I have nothing against joe blogs getting rid of red-eye or making a cool little jpeg logo, but that's now what GIMP is made for, so dont bitch when its not easy.
      An interface that takes time to learn is one thing. I'm fine with that. I would much rather face a steep learning curve than have a bit of software that only takes an hour to master, but doesn't do anything useful.

      The problem with GIMP is not so much that it's difficult to learn, as that it really, truly, has a bad interface for many purposes. And, no, I'm not talking about things like drawing a circle by selecting a circular region and then stroking it: that's weird if you're used to having a dedicated circle-drawing tool, but once you figure out the GIMP way it's just as quick and easy. I'm talking about fundamental limitations like only being able to operate on one layer at a time, that actually make hard things harder than they need to be, because something that would be quick, easy, and intuitive in Adobe Photoshop or Corel PhotoPaint can only be done in GIMP either by tedious repitition, or by writing your own plugin to automate the tedious repitition.

      (Either that, or the documentation is such garbage that it makes possible things look impossible, which is exactly the opposite of what documentation should do.)
    14. Re:Web or Linux 3D SketchUp? by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > like only being able to operate on one layer at a time

      You know, that would actually be... useful. Occasionally. And the rest of the time, it wouldn't actively get in the way of anything important. That would actually be a worthwhile improvement.

      This is very different from the usual criticisms of Gimp, which mostly either complain about ways in which it's actively better (e.g., not being MDI) or whine about not having a bogus "CMYK mode" so that artists who ought to know enough about color spaces to understand why this isn't possible can *pretend* that what they're seeing on the screen will actually come out looking the same on paper. (Yeah, that'd work in a fantasy universe. Can we also get a mode that shows on the screen what it will look like printed on glossy paper, colored paper, textured paper, ... How about a lamination mode? Meh.)

      Being able to operate on multiple layers, while it certainly shouldn't be the default mode of operation and should probably have a UI specifically designed to avoid accidental selection, would actually be a nice capability to have from time to time. I'd probably only use it once every six months, but on those occasions it could be really handy.

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  8. Windows only by SashaMan · · Score: 1

    Currently this looks like it's only on Windows. I didn't see anything about when a Mac or Linux version might be available, did anyone else see anything?

    1. Re:Windows only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, when I went to that site, all I saw a company that doesn't give a fuck about the platforms I use.

  9. Google Mars by NobleSavage · · Score: 1

    What I want to see is a Google Mars with all the images of the probes/rovers organized in some way.

  10. Gap between this plugin w/ Virtual Earth 3D? by waded · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's the gap between this and the existing Virtual Earth 3D plugin? http://www.google.com/earth/plugin/examples/samples/index.html vs. http://dev.live.com/virtualearth/sdk.

    1. Re:Gap between this plugin w/ Virtual Earth 3D? by Haeleth · · Score: 1

      Virtual Earth is, and always will be, Windows-only.

      Google Earth (the application) is cross-platform, so it's likely their plugin will become available cross-platform in due course.

  11. Where on Google Earth is Carmen Sandiego? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Browser Edition. Come on, you know you want to make it!

    1. Re:Where on Google Earth is Carmen Sandiego? by f8l_0e · · Score: 1

      Why did this get modded funny? I used to love When in Time is Carmen Sandiego. Google Earth + Wikipedia = Kick ass Carmen Sandiego Action.

  12. Nice way to max the CPU by Zerbey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, it went mental and spawned three processes that happily chewed up my CPU and started eating memory as a side dish. Oh, and Firefox crashed.

    It's a beta, right? ;-)

    1. Re:Nice way to max the CPU by Oxy+the+moron · · Score: 1

      It's a beta, right? ;-)

      There are Google products that aren't? :)

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    2. Re:Nice way to max the CPU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not surprised -- my laptop does an emergency poweroff to save the CPU when I use googleearth for more than 5 minutes when the ambient temperature is above 75F. I've found no other piece of software can do this -- though under the same conditions compiling a kernel or running cpu intensive simulations cause things to get rather warm...

    3. Re:Nice way to max the CPU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually no. Vista is not a beta. I'm surprised it ran so well though. It ate my wife and children when I started it up.

    4. Re:Nice way to max the CPU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, there are. They're in alpha.

  13. exe? by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who makes a Firefox plugin that's an .exe file? Seriously, Google needs to read the how to page and follow the standards.

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    1. Re:exe? by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, using an out of process plugin is useful for ensuring that the browser remains reliable when the plugin experiences problems and crashes. Its also useful for sharing resources between applications via the out of process process (the exe).

      Those are just 2 reasons to do it, and its likely developers at Google know slightly more about making Mozilla plugins than you seem to think considering A) they pretty much had to read that page to make the plugin anyway, B) Google contributes to the Mozilla code base and has Mozilla developers on staff, and finally C) having delt with many Google engineers, I've yet to run into a twit who has made it past the God knows how many interviews it takes to get a job there, I.E. they tend to have more than a little clue.

      Perhaps you just aren't fully aware of their goals/plans/reasoning.

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    2. Re:exe? by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      Did I miss something? I thought the exe was just an installer that installs the plugin for both IE and Firefox.

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    3. Re:exe? by pembo13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think he was referring to the use of XPIs

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    4. Re:exe? by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I thought the exe was just an installer that installs the plugin for both IE and Firefox. Then why wouldn't they just release the .xpi file? Either they have something to hide, wanted it to be windows only, or only wanted to code it once for both IE and Firefox.
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    5. Re:exe? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      What do you mean ANSYS has no undo button? Have you submitted a bug about it? Will check. I think Workbench has unlimited undo/redo.

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    6. Re:exe? by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I totally forgot that the developer might read Slashdot and get offended. Sorry, man. Next time release it as an XPI file.

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    7. Re:exe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realise that this applies to all major software companies, Microsoft included, right?


      Interviews test your ability to solve mini problems in a short amount of time. Excelling in Computer Science III and knowing high ASCII codes for various locales does not make you innovative, it makes you a highly functional robot. We need more Steve Jobs, more Alan Kay, not more glorified assembly line workers.


      Anyway, if you really want to test someone's competence, you hire on the basis of previous work, or give them a probation period a la IBM. Fortunately, Google do the former a lot of the time, otherwise they'd produce little worthwhile.

    8. Re:exe? by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I think Workbench has unlimited undo/redo. I asked the rep a few weeks ago. You can delete items you performed previously in workbench (provided you know what it is) but there is no undo in the traditional sense.
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    9. Re:exe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Quite possibly those that make a plugin rather than an extension which is what you are referring to. There is a difference.

      A plugin allows the browser to interact with an external application or function to perform said function (for example to view a pdf with a reader application within the browser; view video and audio with Quicktime, realplayer, or other media players; view flash; run Java; and even interact with the locally installed google earth application through your browser).

      Extensions just extend or change existing functionality already present within the browser itself. Except for Sun Java plugin (which causes some users more grief and confusion because of "extension compatibility" that has nothing to do with compatibility of the JRE itself), I do not know of any plugins that are installed as extensions.

    10. Re:exe? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      having delt with many Google engineers, I've yet to run into a twit who has made it past the God knows how many interviews it takes to get a job there

      you can be clever as hell and have thick eyeglasses 2" deep but that does NOT mean they know how to engineer products.

      smart people OFTEN get products quite wrong.

      I encountered quite a few googlers and I saw mathematical brilliance but seriously lacking in everyday common sense.

      when you look for phd's you sometimes GET just that. not surprising, is it? not if you've been in the field long enough.

      smart just isn't enough. you need horse-sense, as they used to call it.

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    11. Re:exe? by Snaller · · Score: 1

      So you are saying they are not evil by mistake but by design?

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    12. Re:exe? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Then why wouldn't they just release the .xpi file?
      Because it isn't a extension, but a plugin?
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    13. Re:exe? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
      Really? I don't know Ansys enough. They are acquiring Ansoft, and I know Ansoft products very well. One of the amazing thing about Ansoft is the super duper undo/redo. Not just in geometry ops. You could take a fully solved post processed project and edit the geometry. That will invalidate the solutions and all post processed plots and reports become grayed out. You undo the geometry edits, the solutions will come back and the plots will refresh themselves! You can export the current stack of operations as a script file and then edit the script file by hand to automate the analysis! The redo ability is the core of their parametric and optimization product.

      May be they will integrate this Ansoft UI technology into Workbench II.

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    14. Re:exe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Professor Farnsworth, is that you?

  14. What is a web page? by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You could theoretically embed this in a web page But then it would no longer be a web page. By your standards, YouTube is not a web page because it contains FLV video, nor is Slashdot because it contains SWF advertisements. If I have an HTML page that uses the object element to embed rich media, what makes it a "web page" or not a "web page"?
    1. Re:What is a web page? by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      By your standards, YouTube is not a web page because it contains FLV video

      If I turn off plugins and go to this website, what do I get? The example screenshot shows Google Earth taking up the entire browser, so my guess is "a blank page" (or one begging me to install their plugin).

      I use YouTube on a fairly regular basis on my x86-64 system without the crashtastic 32-bit flash wrapper. I can see the title of the movie, links to related movies, and download the flv to watch in mplayer.

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    2. Re:What is a web page? by bcat24 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. "x86-64" is just as valid a name for the 64-bit extensions to the x86 architecture are "x64" is.

    3. Re:What is a web page? by mattmcm · · Score: 1

      x86-64 is 64-bit (x64)

    4. Re:What is a web page? by stevied · · Score: 2, Informative
    5. Re:What is a web page? by tepples · · Score: 1
      Context for moderators: discussion about whether a page that embeds a plug-in is a "web page" in spirit

      I use YouTube [...] without [...] flash [...] I can see the title of the movie, links to related movies, and download the flv to watch in mplayer. I don't understand. Since when does YouTube provide an easily accessible way to download the .flv file? Or what procedure do you recommend? And is there a similar procedure for Newgrounds (SWF animations and SWF games) or sites that have Java applets?
    6. Re:What is a web page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And is there a similar procedure for Newgrounds (SWF animations and SWF games)

      These are generally in the .swf file themselves rather than streamed to a shell .swf media player like youtube does, so you can browse the source to find the .swf url and download it, or the Media tab in Page Info, or usually even look in the cache to get the file.

      Java's a bit harder, though usually if you read the page source you can find the classname, and try Classname.jar on the webserver. Running it is a bit interesting, because the java applet isn't designed to be startable as a local applet, though I seem to recall the JDK (not JRE) having an applet viewer designed to do this. Or you could script a little .html file to embed it, and load it in your browser that way.

    7. Re:What is a web page? by lokedhs · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just use the 32-bit version of Firefox? Work wonders, and natively runs 32-bit plugins. You know, the whole point of the amd64 is that it is able to run 64-bit and 32-bit apps at the same time.

  15. Wine by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    When will Google finally release a Linux SketchUp, or at least include its main modeling features into the Web version?

    Have you tried SketchUp in Wine? If you did, and it didn't work, have you submitted problem reports to the Wine team and to Google?

    1. Re:Wine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope nor will I ever run windows programs on linux. I don't run linux to pretend I'm running windows. What a fucking farce. Nor do I support hacked crap garbage like Wine.

    2. Re:Wine by tepples · · Score: 1

      Nope nor will I ever run windows programs on linux. I don't run linux to pretend I'm running windows. That'd be like refusing to install Qt and the KDE libraries: "Nope nor will I ever run kubuntu programs on ubuntu. I don't run ubuntu to pretend I'm running kubuntu." Because that's all Wine is: another toolkit for *n?x. It just happens to be binary-compatible with Windows applications to a large extent.
    3. Re:Wine by DrEasy · · Score: 1

      Ketchup in wine? Bleach!!!

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    4. Re:Wine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Wine is a great tool, but it has trouble running many newer windows applications.

      According to the blog entry you reference, there are some bugs with this app as well, so it is not a full solution.

      It is valid to request that Google support linux natively. Microsoft is unlikely to make emulation easy, and we need to get vendors on board.

    5. Re:Wine by ELProphet · · Score: 1

      As of May first, Wine AppDB says it works fine. That's not what GP is complaining about. GP is complaining that a company like Google who loves "standards" so much should be releasing their desktop apps for all platforms up front, not waiting until some random schmo spends his 20% time for 5 years porting it over.

    6. Re:Wine by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      It failed in the same way that several reviews I saw said it might. Bug reports would be redundant, but evidently not enough to get Google to fix them.

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  16. Fucking Blog Spam by street+struttin' · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try linking a real link instead. http://code.google.com/apis/earth/

  17. whitelisting by tepples · · Score: 1

    Who makes a Firefox plugin that's an .exe file? Seriously, Google needs to read the how to page and follow the standards. Installing Extensions and Themes From Web Pages mentions something about the install method of an InstallTrigger object. In turn, that method's documentation mentions something about a whitelist. I assume the .exe method short-circuits around having to get the user to add each site to a whitelist through a (scary?) alert box.
    1. Re:whitelisting by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Very close, I don't think there is an alert box for whitelisting. I think you have to go into some config file to do it. The correct way to write a pluign is to submit it to Mozilla for review. For some reason, Google decided not to go that way.

      I'm not a developer though. That's just how I interparate this page.

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  18. nice, bot too early by javy_tahu · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm waiting for Canvas3D to stabilize. Currently there is an Opera build http://my.opera.com/timjoh/blog/2007/11/13/taking-the-canvas-to-another-dimension for Windows and Mozilla has an extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7171 Google should better invest more on that Mozilla Canvas3D extension.

  19. Doesnt do linux: it doesn't exist by alexborges · · Score: 1

    Call me when it runs on linux

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    1. Re:Doesnt do linux: it doesn't exist by DaveM753 · · Score: 1

      I'll second that.

      (And no, that doesn't mean running it inside wine or virtualbox.)

  20. You're all missing the point. by TomRK1089 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The real question is whether or not the flight sim easter egg is still included. :D

    1. Re:You're all missing the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real real question is "How do you uninstall it?"

    2. Re:You're all missing the point. by cashman73 · · Score: 1

      The real real real question is, when will Google really start supporting linux? ;-)

    3. Re:You're all missing the point. by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call it an easter egg since it's on the main menu - that's be like searching for eggs in the dairy isle

    4. Re:You're all missing the point. by TomRK1089 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it's not a core function of the program. And I believe originally you needed to hit Ctrl-Alt-Shift-A or something esoteric like that.

  21. I can tell by woot+account · · Score: 1

    from the way all you people are bitching that you've never had to try to develop anything that uses the old Google Earth APIs. The choices are: COM API for Windows, an Apple Script API with something on the order or 5 actions, and the linux API, which oh wait, doesn't exist.

    This, however, will be a unified API for every platform, once it's ported (this says under installing the plug-in that support for other platforms is coming in future releases). And one which I can already tell you is light years better than what I currently have to deal with.

    In other words, STFU.

    1. Re:I can tell by smclean · · Score: 1

      What, no Linux version? Booo!

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  22. How long does this review take? by tepples · · Score: 1

    The correct way to write a pluign is to submit it to Mozilla for review. In that case, I assume the .exe method short-circuits having to register at addons.mozilla.org to download a sandboxed add-on or having to wait several months for an editor to review each version of an add-on and promote it from the sandbox.
    1. Re:How long does this review take? by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Correct, they might also have issues with Google's development cycle. i.e. perpetual beta

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  23. Java? by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

    The Worldwind folks have shown that you can do this stuff in Java, too. Why not use a Java plugin? Before you say 'java is slow', try profiling a Java 3-D application and see where the CPU cycles are spent.

    1. Re:Java? by epsy · · Score: 1

      The Worldwind folks have shown that you can do this stuff in Java, too. Why not use a Java plugin? Before you say 'java is slow', try profiling a Java 3-D application and see where the CPU cycles are spent. they are effectively spent at java.
  24. maps.google.com? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I never understood why anyone would bother with Google Earth when satellite view exists on maps.google.com.

    Of course it's also been years since I've tried Google Earth, so maybe they've added quite a bit extra functionality over maps.google.com.

  25. They should start by fixing by Snaller · · Score: 1

    The ability to chose your install location in Google Earth (you can in the pro version, not in the free version)

    and it can't find your browser if it isn't called iexplorer.exe and is located in the usual places.

    And etc etc.

    I suppose its clever they have made this embeddable thing, but I think they should have created a Google Earth URL a long time ago, people just could link to a place on earth in a link instead of forcing people to host a kml file.

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  26. WARNING by Snaller · · Score: 1

    When you download the rubbish Google installs an update, and an update service

    Wow, guess the days of Google as a friend is well and truly over.

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  27. The real question: where are they going with this? by madbox · · Score: 1

    There are two possibilities I see:

    1) Google is attempting to compete with Microsoft Live's 3D map function: Virtual Earth embedded in a browser.

    2) This is a pre-cursor to having a version available for multiple platforms.

    Google's stands a much better competitive chance when their products run in (almost) any browser, so I would -like- to think that this is where they are headed. What makes me cringe is, how do they plan to get there on non-MS-Windows (non-Direct-X) platforms?

    I think many of us here have experienced the horror, however briefly, of software-only OpenGL 3D.

  28. K-3D by theriddle · · Score: 1

    K3D: k-3d.org.

    1. Re:K-3D by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      I searched for kml and google earth and found nothing in their wiki. I searched for collada , and found only a plugin that opens .dae files, but no way to export a file that Google Earth can import.

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  29. Google Earth or Google Maps by G1369311007 · · Score: 0

    I'd be happier if I was able to do multi point routes and avoid certain roads like I can while using Google Maps in Google Earth. Until then, this is a pretty useless feature to me.

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  30. Re:The real question: where are they going with th by woot+account · · Score: 1

    The website for the plugin says plugins are planned for Linux and OS X in future builds.

  31. Re:Already done in Google Maps by TheSpoom · · Score: 2, Interesting
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  32. will it run on a google page? by mozkill · · Score: 1

    I would love to see an example of this running on "googlepages" .

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  33. Return on investment? by tepples · · Score: 1

    GP is complaining that a company like Google who loves "standards" so much should be releasing their desktop apps for all platforms up front How much advertisement revenue can Google make for even Linux/x86, let alone Linux on other non-lockout-chipped platforms?
  34. How this little "plug-in" works: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. First you download GoogleEarthPluginSetup_en.exe (300 KB), a setup for Google Update. The application creates a system service set to "Automatic" and downloads the real setup for Google Earth Plugin.

    2. The plug-in's installer (googleearth-plugin-win.exe) has 6.376 KB. It includes almost all of the files installed for Google Earth, an Internet Explorer plug-in and a Firefox extension.

    3. The files are copied to C:\Program Files\Google\Google Earth Plugin and the two plug-ins are installed in Internet Explorer and Firefox.

    4. All the future updates are handled by the Google Update service that runs in the background all the time and pings Google to see if there's a new version available.

    5. The plug-in uses a lot of memory (around 100 MB just for loading the initial view and 300 MB for the Monster Milktruck demo) and, for each embedded object, you're running an instance of the Google Earth application.

    Yeah... so now you no longer have to run that cumbersome Google Earth standalone app! *rolleyes*

  35. Re:The real question: where are they going with th by waded · · Score: 1

    It doesn't seem they've gone out of the way to do anything different than what VE 3D's done for quite some time in terms of minimal supported OSes, unifying the 2D and 3D JavaScript APIs, and an interactive sample site. So if in all this time, this is what they've done, they're behaving like they're doing 1, and not very well. You'd suppose 2 is the next competitive move that would come out of Google, but I think it depends on what Microsoft does. If Microsoft adds killer feature X, I think Google's just going to do X' in this case.

  36. Re:MS birds-eye view much better than G'earth by antek9 · · Score: 1

    One anonymous coward's crude is fine enough for me, thanks. Most of the world is (and remains) uncharted by the Microsoft birds, so, while it is great that you can count your koi population from two years ago by looking at Live, most of us obviously couldn't care less.

    Neither for your koi nor for Live, that is.

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