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Surprisingly Few People Collect On GTA Hot Coffee

Relin writes "Out of the millions eligible, less than 3,000 have come forward to collect their money in the 'Hot Coffee' settlement. While the plaintiffs' lawyer is surprised by the development, Theodore Frank of the Legal Center for the Public Interest at the American Enterprise Institute seems convinced that the lawsuit was 'meritless' and will result in no payment for the legal counsel opposing Take-Two."

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  1. Any surprise? by Kinky+Bass+Junk · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's $5

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    1. Re:Any surprise? by Gewalt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And when I paid for GTA, I actually wanted that 5$ to go to Take Two. And I STILL want them to have it.

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    2. Re:Any surprise? by Wavicle · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, you should not do that. RTFA.

      The best thing you can do is DO NOTHING AT ALL.

      Take Two may have the suit declared without merit because of extremely small response, in which case the defense lawyers will be unable to collect legal fees.

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  2. Not surprised by Monkey_Genius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Seth Lesser, lead lawyer for the plaintiffs said that he is "disappointed" by the outcome, and doesn't understand why so many people don't care."
    It is, after all, just a video game.

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    1. Re:Not surprised by corsec67 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is, after all, just a video game.

      It is a video game where you can regenerate health with the services of a prostitute, kill her when she gets out of the car, take your money back, kill a cop and steal his cop car, kill national guard members and steal their tank, and these people are worried about a little bit of clothed dry humping?

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    2. Re:Not surprised by Gewalt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I woudlnt be ashamed to be on a list of people that own GTA, but I would be ashamed if someone thought I had asked for a rebate because a game included the content I was looking for when I bought it.

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    3. Re:Not surprised by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is a video game where you can regenerate health with the services of a prostitute, kill her when she gets out of the car, take your money back, kill a cop and steal his cop car, kill national guard members and steal their tank, and these people are worried about a little bit of clothed dry humping?

      Exactly. I bought this game and enjoyed it. There's no way I would stick it to the people who gave me so many hours of fun game play.

      I really doubt any of the people actually purchasing this game were offended. There might be an occasional stupid parent who thought the hyper-violence in the game was tolerable, but the nudity was over the line. Regardless, it was baseless, in my opinion-- and the people who are okay with violence and freak out over nudity are rather scary. I would not enjoy living in their heads. Give me nude women any day over guns. I'll take both in my video games when it's an option, though.

      Actually, the people who have a stranglehold on America's censorship are the scariest of all. Every other TV show or movie have probably ten times the violence than sex. I remember in the 1970s and early 80s, you could, at least, see the occasional boob on UHF broadcast. Something went wrong somewhere.

    4. Re:Not surprised by corsec67 · · Score: 5, Informative

      One minor correction to your post, although I agree with all of it:
      There is no nudity in the Hot Coffee minigame as it was on the disc.

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    5. Re:Not surprised by clarkcox3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Remember, any suggestion of sex or sexuality to children will warp their tiny widdle minds. ...but violence, that's just good red-blooded American fun.

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    6. Re:Not surprised by networkBoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That makes me so, so sad.
      My wife and I have had long discussions about that very topic, and we've both agreed that sex/nudity/etc. is ok for the kids to see, but Violence is what we want to protect them from.

      That my 5 year old daughter knows she has a vagina and that her brother has a penis actually offends people. My son (3) also knows the appropriate verbage to describe his body. Meanwhile one of my daughters friends thinks that she has a "WooHoo".

      Which is more degrading to a woman?
      Which is more useful in a conversation with a doctor?

      I'll shut up now since I'm just rambling, but suffice to say when my daughter walked in on me playing GTA the other day she admonished me to stop at red lights and not run anyone over. :-)

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    7. Re:Not surprised by Wavicle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Extremely off topic, but...

      Over at a skeptic forum I frequent, someone involved in investigating child sexual abuse made a rather enlightening post about children and the names of their body parts: TEACH THEM THE PROPER NAMES OF THEIR BODY PARTS. The argument went something like "investigating this is hard enough without having to figure out what a 'cookie' is."

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    8. Re:Not surprised by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 5, Funny

      This puts a whole new spin on Sesame's Cookie Monster :D

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    9. Re:Not surprised by residieu · · Score: 5, Informative

      There were some clueless parents who were offended. But they probably didn't understand that you had to mod the game to get the content. In a ny times article on the subject one mother says "I'm aware that there is killing in the game," Ms. Stanhouse said in the deposition. "I wasn't aware of the stealing." She wasn't aware there was stealing in a game called "Grand THEFT Auto"

  3. Surprise surprise by Skreech · · Score: 5, Funny

    American Enterprise Institute seems convinced that the lawsuit was "meritless" and will result in no payment for the legal counsel opposing Take-Two.

    Oh boy, I can only hope. Oh please.

  4. Not worth my time. by iansmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The time it would take filling out the forms and cashing the $5 check is better spent on something else.

    And frankly, anyone who buys Grand Theft Auto, the game that lets you kill hookers instead of paying them, is going to be hard to offend with some sex scene they have to use a hack to see in the first place.

    That lawsuit never should have been brought to court, I hope the laywers don't see a penny!

    1. Re:Not worth my time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And frankly, anyone who buys Grand Theft Auto, the game that lets you kill hookers instead of paying them, is going to be hard to offend with some sex scene they have to use a hack to see in the first place. I know, seriously! And how you can blame the makers of a game that merely simulates reality? What, next some lawyer's going to be telling me I can't kill hookers instead of paying them in real life?
  5. Well is it worth it. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being that it requited a hack to unlock the feature (aka censors already deemed the code unacceptable) and the kids who downloaded the hack could have just as easily have gotten real porn. It really isn't that big of a deal. Besides who wants to say after buying GTA I am such a prude that I want money to accommodate my suffering. I think most people will say they hypocrisy needs to stop at some point.

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    1. Re:Well is it worth it. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the kids who downloaded the hack could have just as easily have gotten real porn

      Yeah, that's exactly why this whole issue has always cracked me up. Oh noes! If a kid goes unsupervised onto the internet, he may download a mod for a game that would show him low-poly-count boobs. We need to stop this, prevent minors from buying GTA, make Take Two release new discs without the content on it, and then, at long last, kids won't be able to find boobs on the internet!

      Really, it's just too funny.

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  6. Maybe they liked the game? by xRelisH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps the remaining millions who did not claim the money actually, you know, liked the game?

    I don't think it would make sense for gamers to exploit a frivolous lawsuit to get a few dollars out of a company that made a game they enjoyed.

  7. Cheap Marketing by TornCityVenz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder what the networth of the attention take 2 got from this is worth. Surely far more than the cost of paying out the penalty and the fees of the lawers that they probably have on full time retainer anyhow.

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  8. odd by bigdavex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Suppose I bought some porn video and there was a code that my kids found that let them play a game where they beat people and ran them over for fun. Would I have case?

    Who exactly is supposed to care about this?

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    1. Re:odd by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Your kids would be taken away because you allowed them to access porn. Thank the puritans.

  9. Seriously... by Golden_Rider · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I read instructions on the Internet on how to mod GTA so that I could see a sex scene, and when I followed those instructions, the game actually let me see a sex scene! Now I feel surprised, shocked and offended and want $5!"

    Sometimes I really wonder if there are any normal people left in this world.

  10. Second Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the GTA makers owe me $35 for their hidden NPC sex scene, then the Second Life makers owe me seven figures for emotional trauma from the brief virtual walk I took though the general area.

  11. I pirated it by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Funny

    and I still want my money!

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    1. Re:I pirated it by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure, just give us your name and address and we'll send you a check!

      Thanks,
      Take Two

  12. The only people benefiting. by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    are the lawyers. The lawyers don't care if everyone get pennies, because they get their millions. And if there is a settlement or verdict, it should always be in monetary form distributed automatically to every class member. Members shouldn't have to fill any paperwork. The corporations should calculate it for them. Two examples:

    1. Bank of America privacy lawsuit.

    Fees waived for deposited items getting returned!
    Fees returned for calling customer service!
    12 months free subscription to a credit card protection service (a $30 value)!
    90 free days of Privacy Assist Identity Theft Protection Service (a $17.85 value)!

    Hell no. Basically, they get free marketing. OUCH.

    2. Visa MasterCard Discovery Currency lawsuit.

    They want you to calculate your foreign purchases yourself and document them for your reimbursement. Hell no. They should pay us $400/hr as they do their lawyers for the time we spend sorting through years worth of credit card statements. Some companies even charge a fee for requesting older records.

    Settling should not be an option for class action lawsuits. The client/s should decide whether to settle, not the lawyer/s. A settlement should always be an opt-in, not an opt-out.

    1. Re:The only people benefiting. by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ya, that is what the class action lawsuit pamphlets always say.

      "It's taken 5 years and 10 million dollars in lawyer fees to get this far, and good news, we won, and you get free Mortgage coupons! To opt out you may write the court judge at {address}."

      Ya, I am going to go after Bank of America individually. That is really a feasible option. Let me look up a lawyer in the phone book.

      Hell no.

      Class action lawsuits are for lawyers, and the wrong-doers settle to make them go away. It is never about the victims. Ever.

  13. Re:Take Two owes more in legal fees by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I say we cap the legal fees at 50% of the final settlement - IE for each $5 'settlement' received they get $5.

    So instead of $1.3M, at the moment they've 'earned' ~$12k.

    It'd stop some of the stupider lawsuits. I still remember getting a settlement offer for some memory I bought from crucial years ago - as far as I was concerned, I paid a fair price for it. Crucial sold me quality memory at a price seen more for shady chips.

    Before I ever started going after the profit margin on computer chips I'd take a look at the jewelry industry.

    I figure that most of the <3k individuals are just after a buck(five-thirty five).

    On my end, if I was the judge or jury(don't know how it was decided), I'd have thrown out the case from the sheer fact that you had to download a mod to enable the content. Might as well sue 3DRealms for the mod to Duke Nukem that put actual porno on the movie screens, made the strippers actually strip(sorta), and all around more explicit. Don't mention the fact that it was a straight image swap with the more explicit stuff.

    Heck, 'Hot Coffee' has made the value of the first edition of the game(before new disks were issued) more valuable!

    That shows deliberate work on the part of the player. Like others have said, they could have as easily downloaded far more explicit porn, not to mention outright sex games about as easily.

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  14. I live in the GTA... by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny

    I live in the GTA. Where do I get my free coffee?

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  15. Lack of option by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could we send in $5 to enable the hot coffee mod?

  16. Re:SURPRISED! by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've never seen so much consensus in Slashdot comments! Slashdot prefers to call that redundancy.
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