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Ray Gun Puts Voices Inside Your Head

Sportsqs writes "The Sierra Nevada Corporation claimed this week that it is ready to begin production on the MEDUSA, a damned scary ray gun that uses the 'microwave audio effect' to implant sounds and perhaps even specific messages inside people's heads."

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  1. Ha! See! I told you! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!

  2. Since 1986... by Illbay · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I've had the voice of Reagan inside my head.

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    1. Re:Since 1986... by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reagan? Wasn't that the name of the possessed girl in The Exorcist?

      Thanks to these microwave guns, you no longer need to be schitzophrenic to hear voices. There have been a lot of tinfoil hat jokes (of course) in the comments, but it appears that if you're going to be part of a political demonstration from now on, a tinfoil hat may be necessary to keep the Secret Police out of your head.

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  3. Sierra Nevada? by gabeman-o · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder how many Pale Ales you have to drink to get the same effect.

  4. That's Ironic by ComputerGeek01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that they should name it Medusa, a villain who was defeated by reflecting it's magic back at it...

    1. Re:That's Ironic by electrosoccertux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately, this time she's not sentient.

      This goes just too far. If there were ever to be a law against free speech, this would be it, because I don't want to listen to what this thing has to say. I value silence. That ear plugs wouldn't work against this thing...

    2. Re:That's Ironic by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If there were ever to be a law against free speech, this would be it, because I don't want to listen to what this thing has to say. I value silence.

      You already have this. The right to free speech is NOT the right to be heard by everyone, despite what a lot of people think.

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  5. They obviously didn't consider.. by AlterRNow · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. the fact it wouldn't affect people who already hear voices.

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    1. Re:They obviously didn't consider.. by Toutatis · · Score: 2, Funny

      On the contrary, those people will be able to do some thinking while the old voices in his head talk with the new ones.

    2. Re:They obviously didn't consider.. by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have schzioaffective disorder, I've learned how to be like John Forbes Nash and create a reality filter to tune things out like voices and hallucinations by ignoring them.

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  6. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by ArcherB · · Score: 5, Funny

    There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!

    You won't be sitting pretty when you shiny new hat starts to spark and arc like a fork in the microwave!

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  7. Is this the same... by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    technology as the /. article a few months ago? I seem to remember a govt prototype or some such device that was trying to do the same thing. In any case, I hope this spurs the development of professionally made tin foil hats. The crude home-made variety aren't going to cut it anymore.

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  8. Equality by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's like curing Schizophrenia the backwards way!

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  9. The Sierra Nevada Corporation? by rpillala · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are they working out of Black Mesa?

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    1. Re:The Sierra Nevada Corporation? by superid · · Score: 4, Funny

      that was a joke,
      ha ha
      fat chance

  10. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was going to make fun of you, but then my new friend Roger told me not to.

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  11. Whatever by Bwana+Geek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pfft. Call me when they implement a 'microwave digital surround effect' on this thing. Then I'll be impressed.

  12. So will the 2.0 version use Gamma Radiation? by jayhawk88 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In my day they only had ads on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and ball games and on buses and milk cartons and written in the sky. But not in dreams, no-siree!

  13. I AM laughing at you! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

    Conclusion
    The helmets amplify frequency bands that coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for ''radio location'' (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites (see, for example, [3]). The 2.6 Ghz band coincides with mobile phone technology. Though not affiliated by government, these bands are at the hands of multinational corporations.

    It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC. We hope this report will encourage the paranoid community to develop improved helmet designs to avoid falling prey to these shortcomings.

    Ha Ha!

    /Nelson

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    1. Re:I AM laughing at you! by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've been saying this all along. Tinfoil hats,and Faraday cage like devices in general, can't be relied upon unless they're grounded.

      In many cases, you'll get significant attenuation without grounding, as in the case of foil shields for protecting passport RFIDs, but grounding, even imperfect grounding, would improve shielding tremendously.

      Obviously, you should run a wire from your tinfoil hat to a conductive grounding strip attached to the heel of your shoe. Then you replace your floors with carbon impregnated panels, and for the final touch connect them to a six foot copper rod driven into the earth.

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    2. Re:I AM laughing at you! by gnick · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Obviously, you should run a wire from your tinfoil hat to a conductive grounding strip attached to the heel of your shoe.

      Actually, the devices I've used connect to the toe of your shoe, not the heel - Both heels are often lifted while walking. And you need to be sure that you run wires to both feet instead of just one. Also, unless you have a conductive floor (we did when we were using these, but for a very different purpose), spikes are more effective than strips. But you need to plan for the terrain. 1/4" spikes are fine for walking (and very effective for grounding) in damp vegetation or earth but may impede your progress on asphalt. In that case, you'll need very shallow spikes and will just have to accept limited grounding unless you're willing to run a very long cable to a copper rod.

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  14. Where did the development $ come from? by Presto+Vivace · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is this one of DARPA's toys?

    1. Re:Where did the development $ come from? by rilister · · Score: 2, Informative

      'Where did the development $ come from?' ... as usual, it came from you and me.

      (no, really - from http://www.sncorp.com/about/ataglance.shtml
      "SNC (The Sierra Nevada Corporation) is a Privately Held Corporation and is considered the Top Woman Owned Federal Contractor in the US based upon the capabilities and resources to deliver high-technology systems and integration programs at the $1 Billion level")

      -still, I like their beer...

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  15. That explains it. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microwave audio effect? That explains why I keep hearing "90% power... white rice... sensor cook" over and over again.

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    1. Re:That explains it. by mrslacker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Never mind the voice that's telling me to visit a house that's about to be filled with popcorn. Just think, they could have avoided the effort of the implant, and used microwaves for both.

    2. Re:That explains it. by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think there's a similar effect that explains the "whooshing" sound you hear when you watch shooting stars.

      For years, scientists have believed that the sound was a figment of human imagination, even though many people would swear to hearing it. The problem is that the meteors are miles and miles overhead, but the sound is heard simultaneously. Now I've personally heard the whoosh of a bolide during a the massive meteor shower, and I'd be prepared to swear it was simultaneous with the flash of the meteor trail, even though I know that sound could not travel that fast, even if it were a mere few thousand feet.

      It's even more psychologically convincing because the sound isn't really a "whoosh"; it's not what you'd expect. It's more like the sound of slurping the last bit of milkshake with a straw, listened to through a long PVC pipe.

      I read a few years ago that physicists found an accoustic effect created by the low frequency electrmagnetic energy working on water droplets of a certain size. This would make sense because when I did hear the "whoosh", I was lying on my back on the dewy grass. I've also read that wireframe glasses can account for the simultaneous sound.

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  16. Getting laid more by Pvt_Ryan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Toot with this i can now insert the message "Sleep with me" in the heads of attractive women everywhere!!!

    Denise Richards & the olsen twins here I come..

    1. Re:Getting laid more by kalirion · · Score: 4, Funny

      Toot with this i can now insert the message "Sleep with me" in the heads of attractive women everywhere!!!

      Denise Richards & the olsen twins here I come..

      Ok, now I'm confused.

  17. scary. by apodyopsis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    remote torture anybody?

    imagine playing Cliff Richard to you victim incessantly. unable to sleep. unable to get away from it. all you need is somebody to point this thing at his head.

    imagine doing it at just enough of a low level so he is not aware of it.

    imagine jururs being threatened at long range. imagine blackmail from a distance.

    what if an unverifiable, untraceable voice announces in your ear "rob the bank or I shoot your wife", what would you do?

    this is damn scary, where is my magneto helmet?

    1. Re:scary. by Eudial · · Score: 4, Interesting

      imagine playing Cliff Richard to you victim incessantly. unable to sleep. unable to get away from it. all you need is somebody to point this thing at his head.

      Imagine the rick rolling possibilities. We're in for a world of pain if these things become available on the internet.

      On a more serious note, engineering and scientific work ethics? Does that at all exist anymore? I can't imagine anyone willingly developing a technology with so many malevolent uses. Didn't we learn anything from the Manhattan project?

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    2. Re:scary. by kalirion · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Could a microwave gun really hit a single head out of a crowd?

    3. Re:scary. by pxc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      what if an unverifiable, untraceable voice announces in your ear "rob the bank or I shoot your wife", what would you do?

      Don't react. If they believe they can't contact you, then they'll try something else to get whatever they want out of you before killing your wife. It will at least give you some awareness of the situation and probably buy your wife some more time.

    4. Re:scary. by apodyopsis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just thought of a few more - a tinnitus emulator - playing a barking dog at a cat to freak it - play a common mobile phone noise at a crowd, see who reaches for their pocket - or more disturbing, play the sound of a woman screaming - play a dog barking at a horse race to fix the finals really I think we are scratching the surface here, this is one deeply unethical product. who can think of some more?

    5. Re:scary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Could a microwave gun really hit a single head out of a crowd?

      It wouldn't be a gun, but a parabolic dish. A quick Google search on such dishes shows the main beam spread is 40 arc seconds, so you could get most of your energy onto a 40 cm head from 1 km away, but heads near the path would catch much radiation as well.

    6. Re:scary. by xiando · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I do not need to imagine. The Norwegian government did this to me 2005-2006. I had to flee to Sweden. Norway is part of the NATO alliance and they do not accept that citizens talk about NATOs false-flag operations. And do not expect "magneto helmet" to help you. This technology is only a small extremely horrible part of the torture program they target "bad" citizens with. If you are targeted with this then your only real choice is to get your passport, find a country which is not in a deep military alliance with your government, get enough cash to get there and get out. Just go.

  18. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by neokushan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Of course, that's the REAL purpose of this weapon - something to use against all the tinfoil hats out there!

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  19. Obligatory Futurama by dkleinsc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Buy Lightspeed Briefs!

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      Warning ... Objects in mirror may be more attractive than they appear.

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  20. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by snowraver1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somethings telling me to "Move along, there's nothing to see here".

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  21. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by JustKidding · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "all standard forms of defence against auditory input" probably means anything in or covering your ears. The tinfoil hat only blocks electromagnetic waves, which is what they are supposedly using.

    The tinfoil hat might actually be one of the few ways you can block this without any special materials or equipment.

    If they see someone with a tinfoil hat, they'll probably just yell at him.

  22. Re:Actually by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ahhh! You sound just like Jake!

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  23. These are not the droids you are looking for. by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...These are not the droids we're looking for."

    You weak minded fool! He's got a Jedi mind gun!"

  24. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by DigitAl56K · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's more scary than cool.

    The article at NewScientist says:

    MEDUSA involves a microwave auditory effect "loud" enough to cause discomfort or even incapacitation. Sadovnik says that normal audio safety limits do not apply since the sound does not enter through the eardrums.

    Also from NewScientist, a member of the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at the University of Illinois in Chicago who has also worked on the technique has commented that while feasible, attaining the necessary volume might involve power levels that could cause neural damage.

  25. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by b4upoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps we can beam an entire education into the minds of young people. Think about it. Roughly half of America's young people reach the age of 18 at being virtually retarded these days. Beaming voices into peoples' heads might be a highly useful tool.
                It also might be used to teach people what Islam really is in places like Iraq where an entire religion has been subverted and perverted into a really nasty mess. Teaching real Islam to the public might cure this problem.

  26. At last! by OmgTEHMATRICKS · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Looks like we finally have a real use for all those tin foil hats.

  27. One step closer to Futurama by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fry: So you're telling me they broadcast commercials into people's dreams?

    Leela: Of course.

    Fry: But how is that possible?

    Professor Farnsworth: It's very simple. The ad gets into your brain just like this liquid gets into this egg. [Holds up an egg and injects it with liquid from a syringe until the egg explodes.]

    Although, in reality, it's not liquid, but gamma radiation.

    Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?

    Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

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    1. Re:One step closer to Futurama by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Futurama lifted that almost word for word from Isaac Asimov's Dreaming is a Private Thing.

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    2. Re:One step closer to Futurama by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True, but completely offtopic. If the topic or a comment quotes Romeo and Juliet, I just might point that out.

      The difference, of course, is that it's unlikely that Shakespeare read the Italian poem, but very likely that Futurama's writers have read Dreaming Is A Private Thing (the story is a commentary about writers). It's even likely that the Asimov reference was put there on purpose; that would be my assumption and I would applaud Futurama's writers for it if so.

      No karma bonus checked

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  28. This has been around for a while by stoob0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Friend of mine told me about this in 2005. The intel guys have had this for a few years.

  29. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data,,,

    That's right! It's nothing but a load of rich creamery butter!

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  30. Re:And we wonder why people are paranoid? by b4upoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Paranoia is serious. I lost a best friend of many years to paranoia when he became so convinced that the government was out to get him that he hung himself. This very week my brother in law attempted suicide due to his hallucinations that involve his believing that the FBI is invading his mind. He is now being held under the Baker Act for 72 hours. Just maybe a different prescription might quiet his hallucinations. Paranoia can and does frequently cause murders where the sufferer becomes so convinced that someone is out to do him harm that he strikes first as a desperate act of supposed self defense.
            Believe it or not mental illness means nothing in Florida. If you are so crazy that you think Santa Clause is an FBI agent out to kill you and you strike out that does not meet the standard for legal insanity here. The idea that you feel it is right to preserve your own life will be taken as proof that you have a knowledge of right and wrong, Society is sick.

  31. Be great for parents of teenagers... by grassy_knoll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Heck, combine it with some prerecorded messages and parents will snap these up "for the children".

    Top sellers could be:

    • clean your room
    • take the trash out
    • study more

    All with constant repetition which only ends when the desired action is performed.

    ... yes it's a joke. I hope.

    1. Re:Be great for parents of teenagers... by wattrlz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's: " I'm so glad I'm a Beta. Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas.They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides, they wear black, which is such a beastly colour..."

  32. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Q-Hack! · · Score: 4, Informative

    TFA doesn't give much in technical details, but as I understand it, they are using the human skull as a heterodyne circuit. Basically mixing two microwave signals inside the skull to create audio.
       

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  33. Just what we need by damburger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another way for marketing wankstains to pollute our heads with their psychologically manipulate garbage. Hopefully the powers that be will see the strong public interest argument in not using this to beam 'important messages' into peoples heads.

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  34. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Majik+Sheff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmm, I thought of the Islamist tack as well, but I had a different approach. Let's use their zealotry against them.

    We'll see how motivated they are to blow themselves up when Allah himself tells them that suicide bombing is a deal breaker on the whole eternal paradise thing.

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  35. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by TheLostSamurai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).

    So... Why exactly do you fear it if it doesn't work?

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  36. What's Next? by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    OK, I can deal with the fact that the Tinfoil Hat people have been right all along. Fine. I apologize for some of the unkind things I've said about them.

    But dammit, I'm NOT going to start being nice to all the Moonbats, People Who Live In Their Parents' Basements, Loons, Head Cases, Half-wits, Technophobes, Technophiles, UFO Abductees, Conspiracy Nuts, Jerks, Berks and Wanna-be Captain Kirks just because, like a broken clock, they might manage to be right twice a day.

    I mean it!

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  37. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I saw this last week in New Scientist. You're jumping to some very flase conclusions. It has nothing to do with subliminal messages. From the linked article:

    The device - dubbed MEDUSA (Mob Excess Deterrent Using Silent Audio) - exploits the microwave audio effect, in which short microwave pulses rapidly heat tissue, causing a shockwave inside the skull that can be detected by the ears. A series of pulses can be transmitted to produce recognisable sounds.
    <snip>
    MEDUSA involves a microwave auditory effect "loud" enough to cause discomfort or even incapacitation. Sadovnik says that normal audio safety limits do not apply since the sound does not enter through the eardrums.

    "The repel effect is a combination of loudness and the irritation factor," he says. "You can't block it out."

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  38. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Troed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Two myths I want to debunk right off the bat.

    Great! I love to see myths debunked.

    the spectrum that your microwave uses happens to cause water molecules to resonate. These microwaves are of a different spectrum, and while they can be deadly, they are not the same.

    ... unfortunately, that's one of them. The 2.4GHz spectrum was not chosen because water molecules somehow resonate better - and there's no real difference between 2.4GHz and various mobile frequencies around 1.8-1.9GHz with that in mind.

    http://www.answers.com/topic/microwave-1?cat=technology

  39. Hypersonic Sound by Jizzbug · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These sound like HSS speakers, which use ultrasonic carrier waves to demodulate sound when the frequencies come into contact with flesh and bone.

    http://www.atcsd.com/site/

    And friend of mine has a couple of these speakers. We recently used them at an art opening to beam the music of the primes into people's heads (playing the digital root of each prime number through a hexatonic scale, rests in the music were created by the occurrence of the primes in the digital-roots matrix we used to develop our own unique prime number sieve).

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  40. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I give you... TinFoil Hat V.2!

    This + this = WIN!

    N.B. Links are JPEGs.

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  41. Here's another report from a more reputable source by frostilicus2 · · Score: 5, Informative
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  42. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by gnick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).

    So... Why exactly do you fear it if it doesn't work?

    Because audible spam in my head would be even worse than the e-mailed spam in my in-box or the visible spam on billboards (and bus stops, sides of buildings/cars, etc.)

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  43. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People should be able to believe whatever the hell they want to believe as long as they don't try to force it on others. If they don't believe in evolution, fine, it's their right -- but they shouldn't be allowed to practice biological science.

  44. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Martin+Blank · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I see enormous benefits in this technology.

    1. Listening to music as loud as you want while not forcing it on others
    2. Rocking out to the loudest concert in history without anyone outside the venue hearing a whisper of it (on second thought, the RIAA might require this, so maybe it's not so good)
    3. Throwing a gigantic party with great tunes while letting the geezer next door -- who never listens to anything harder than Captain and Tennille -- get his beauty sleep

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  45. Re:Scary Thought... by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My Name Is Earl did this in the episode "Made a Lady Think I Was God". Roseanne Barr played a mean nasty woman who wore hearing aids, and Earl found out that her hearing aids picked up his walkie-talkies.

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  46. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Funny

    We'll see how motivated they are to blow themselves up when Allah himself tells them that suicide bombing is a deal breaker on the whole eternal paradise thing.

    Brilliant! I hereby nominate you for the position of Head Messiah at the newly founded Ministry of Godly Voices.

  47. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    attaining the necessary volume might involve power levels that could cause neural damage.

    Yeah, that'll stop this from widespread use.

    Like how they banned Tasers, because attaining the necessary pain might involve power levels that could cause cardiac arrhythmia.

    Oh, wait, no they don't... All those people died of "excited delerium", not Taser-induced arrhythmia. Slip o' the tongue there, don't sue me bro...

  48. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by chaoticgeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Something tells me these are not the droids I'm looking for...

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  49. Re:Blocking by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are we reaching Alternate Universe X-Men territory?

    Magneto is now the good guy & Professor X is evil?

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  50. First message sent (Real Genius homage) by mandark1967 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ken! This is Jesus. Stop touching yourself!

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    1. Re:First message sent (Real Genius homage) by BadMrMojo · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was Kent but yeah. Exactly where my mind was going with it, too.

      "Look, it was hot and I was hungry..."

  51. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by digitig · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because audible spam in my head would be even worse than the e-mailed spam in my in-box or the visible spam on billboards (and bus stops, sides of buildings/cars, etc.)

    Nah -- the voices already in my head will be able to shout it down...

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  52. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Brigadier · · Score: 5, Funny

      80,000 ACDC fans screaming "....TNT, I'm Dynamite...." out of tune ..... nothing peaceful about that....

  53. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by mhall119 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The tinfoil hat might actually be one of the few ways you can block this without any special materials or equipment.

    Half a Faraday cage is as good as none.

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  54. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 5, Funny

    i agree and the wonderful folks at sierra nevada deserve more grant money

    i agree and the wonderful folks at sierra nevada deserve more grant money

    i agree and the wonderful folks at sierra nevada deserve more grant money

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  55. Bummer by CODiNE · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a deaf guy it saddens me when tech like this is used for military purposes and it's consumer uses are not considered.

    Remember the thing where you put the transmitter on your tongue and you can hear bypassing the ears? I'd like to try one of those. But rather than look like a drooling idiot I'd love to get my hands on one of these babies. Just strap it on a hearing aid and skip the ears entirely. Way better than a cochlear implant, non-invasive and perfect sound. Nice.

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    1. Re:Bummer by rabiddeity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unfortunately it looks like this will only work if your inner ear is undamaged and functioning properly. I had major hearing loss in one ear from an injury a few years ago, and one of the tests they did was acoustically coupling a small vibrating pad to the base of my skull to determine whether the injury was in the middle or inner ear. If your cochlea are already damaged to the point that you need a cochlear implant (direct neural stimulation) then you'd be able to _feel_ your skull vibrating but you will hear nothing -- a very odd sensation indeed.

      Of course I shudder at the thought of what microwave radiation would do to the electrodes in your cochlear implant. It might literally induce a current through your brain. At the low end it would destroy the tissues connected to the electrodes. At the high end it might induce a seizure or kill you. I hope to hell it's well shielded.

  56. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tasers are a great example of why you can't trust your end user.

    A Taser was designed to replace a gun. "Instead of shooting someone, you can INSTEAD tase them to incapacitate them."

    Once they got into the hands of the end users, the got into usage creep. "Fighting is hard work. I'll use the taser." "Arguing takes effort. Taser." "Talking meh taser."

    Now they're used for when you owe the bus driver a dollar.

    (Despite what the article states, they have said in radio interviews that they use the tasers for non-compliance, including non-payment of fares.)

    They're being overused as a compliance tool instead of their intended purpose, which was to prevent acute lead poisoning.

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  57. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by johnlcallaway · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah!! Get rid of all these taser and microwave weapons. Bring back good old night sticks, trunchons, jack boots, and guns. It's a lot easier to prove that victims were hurt by those weapons than by tasers or microwaves. Or their own decisions to resist arrest or not leave buildings.

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  58. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by PRMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, that sure worked for Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. They never committed any atrocities at all.

    The reality is that there are a few nutballs out there in every religion, including atheism.

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  59. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by WinPimp2K · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmm...

    Now avoiding TFA like the plague, it occurs to me that "shockwaves" within the skull able to cause hydrostatic pressure loads comparable to 120+ decibels (is that loud enough for ya?) hitting your eardrums might just damage something other than eardrums.

    But lets not even think about the fine possibilities such as massive damage on the cellular level - just consider the overpressures that could be set up within blood vessels. It will be interesting to see if there is any increase in "massive cerebral hemorrage" as a cause of death going forward.

    Or an increase in the wearing of hats by the political class anytinme they give a speech :)

     

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  60. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by general+scruff · · Score: 2, Informative

    Its only scary if you're hearing Barbara Streisand.

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  61. I think the (tinfoil hat) joke is on us this time. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are all kinds of quips about tinfoil hats and paranoia to be made on this one. Trouble is, think about what that means. We are living a tinfoil hatter's paranoid fantasy, it just happens to all be true.

    Massive wiretapping? Check.
    Ubiquitous surveillance? Check.
    Substantial expansion of state power? Check.
    Secret prisons and disappearances? Check.
    Directed energy weapons (both pain and sound)? Check.
    Classified laws? Check.
    Mercenaries who answer to no law?? Check.

    Seriously. They still have some really wacky ones about reptoids and masons and things; but much of conspiracy lore is so common that it doesn't even make the front pages anymore. The joke is on us.

  62. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 4, Funny

    1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).

    Yeah, I can account to this. Back in when I was in a course in psychology we did a blind study and on sublidrinkminal messduffages to influbeerence a taste test. One side we would set it up with out a subliminals being piped in in the music and one with. The resdrinkults were wimorethin 2% of eaduffch other. We beerconcluded that subliminal messages where bullshit.

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  63. Re:And we wonder why people are paranoid? by dr_canak · · Score: 5, Informative

    Everything in your post is informative, up to the statement that "paranoia can and does *frequenttly* cause murders..." I work in mental health, and have had experience with the circumstances you describe. However, there are 1000's of more paranoid folks who don't go on to commit homicide/suicide than those who do. Just a quick google turned up this:

    http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/318/7193/1225

    which estimates roughly 8% of homicide perpetrators having contact with the mental health profession, but that certainly doesn't equate to them all being paranoid, or even having a true psychiatric diagnosis.

    http://www.psychlaws.org/BriefingPapers/BP11.htm

    puts the a conservative estimate around 9%-15%, but again this is all mental illness, not just mental illnesses that involve paranoid ideation which is certainly less,

    And finally here:

    http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/355/20/2064

    cites a study showing an approximately 5% prevalence rate of schizophrenia amongst persons convicted of homicide. Now I understand this is orders of magnitude higher than the general population, and there is certainly an increased risk of self-inflected injury or homicide as compared to folks who don't have a history of schizophrenia. But the fact still remains that the overwhelming majority of folks with a psychiatric illness, including paranoid schizophrenia are not at risk for perpetrating violence against themselves or others.

    Not necessarily disagreeing with your post, per se. Just pointing out the other side of the equation as there is a common misconception that those with mental illness are a risk to themselves and others.

    thx,
    jeff

  64. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by svank · · Score: 5, Funny

    A strainer and a 404 Not Found? I guess the gun can't put voices in your head if it can't find your head, but I'm wondering how this could be practically implemented.

  65. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by No-Cool-Nickname · · Score: 5, Funny

    Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 20th century? Fry: Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and T-shirts and written in the sky. But not in dreams. No, sir-ee!

  66. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by camperslo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually you've got the right idea with a tin foil hat. But since the signals may not be coming from the sky, the foil should wrap around as much of your head as possible. Looking through a metal screen or metal full of tiny holes should be effective in blocking signals approaching your face. The holes just have to be small relative to the wavelength of the signal. That should sound familiar since that's what's done in the windows in doors of microwave ovens.

    Since the microwaves are in very short pulses the average power level apparently isn't high enough to cook you.
    If the only effect is to hear something, it could be ineffective if one knows to simply ignore it.

    How's this for an awful thought? .... send auditory spam to people via these microwaves...

    I can see it now, crowds holding up shields to bounce signals back at their attackers

  67. no problem here. by swschrad · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Voices are strong, they drown out all other sounds.

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  68. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by ZeroNullVoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    But you see, we actually use the TinFoil as a receptor, antenna, and resonator. Your head and brain are just the storage medium.

    We can target people without the metal hat's just fine, but we can target people with them faster and at greater distances.

    In fact, we have had between an 84.6% and 97.5325333333% success rate with people wearing foil helmets. The success rate depends on the type of metal used in the foil and the weave designs.

    In people without metal hats, we found that we get about an 89% success rate on average.

    So yes, the metal hat's do prevent us some, but the problem is, with the unsuccessful it is not that the message does not get through, it is that death is a side effect and thus is defined as a failure during our tests.

    We tested over 10 million diverse humans, and found that the only people to survive with 100% success rate were those that were born with both sets of sexual organs. But we consider them useless statistics anyway since they are unable to reproduce.

    Another interesting side effect is we have the ability to also define genetic memories of the voices. That way every spawn from the target is also a victim.

    We thank you for reading the FAQ of BrainTrain International Corp.

  69. Re:And we wonder why people are paranoid? by mypalmike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you are so crazy that you think Santa Clause is an FBI agent out to kill you and you strike out that does not meet the standard for legal insanity here.

    That's OK with me. Sorry if it seems callous, but a mentally ill murderer is still a murderer. Criminal law serves to protect the public. It sucks to have mental illness and to be locked up, but it sucks more to get stabbed to death on a subway train.

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  70. You joke, but... by swb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...up until recently, generations of police officers learned how to use physical force to gain compliance. And generally speaking they knew how to do it with minimal force and maximal compliance -- a friend who is a 2nd generation police officer had his father demonstrate some of the techniques, and it was fairly amazing how well he could hurt me without actually "hurting" me (ie, leaving lasting marks, breaking bones, bruising, etc.)

    The gripe my friend the cop has is that with all the touchy-feely policing (and the expensive court payouts) they have, you really can't gain compliance through physical force the way you used to be able to, so they are largely left with their guns and their tasers. And since the tasers aren't lethal, they're somehow considered "OK" to use for any problem solving short of killing someone.

    I think they should start allowing the police to carry saps and clubs again as well as teach them physical force and stop letting them use a taser as a universal problem solver.

  71. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Rary · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A Taser was designed to replace a gun.

    Although I agree with your overall point that Tasers are seriously overused, your initial premise is incorrect.

    Tasers were never intended to be used as a replacement for a gun. They are an additional non-lethal weapon to use alongside the baton and pepper spray.

    Unfortunately, politicians and even the police themselves use the "Tasers replace guns" myth to win people over to the idea. After all, who wouldn't prefer to see a Taser used instead of a gun?

    But that's not what happens. When the situation calls for a gun to be used, then the officer will use their gun. Period. They will never consider using the Taser instead, and they were never expected to. This is why the number of incidents involving police using their guns has not decreased since Tasers were introduced. Nor was it expected to.

    The problem is that Tasers seem really harmless. You press a button, and the guy falls to the floor. Shortly thereafter, he gets up and he's apparently fine. So, hey, why not use it even in cases where the use of a baton or pepper spray would cause mass outrage?

    And that's exactly what's happening now.

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  72. Re:Use for the Deaf. by Koiu+Lpoi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most likely no, as this device makes the skull vibrate, which is then picked up by the inner ear. If their ears don't work at all, this won't solve anything.

  73. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by TerranFury · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sadovnik says that normal audio safety limits do not apply since the sound does not enter through the eardrums.

    Such bullshit!
    (Directed at Sadovnik, not you, Digital).

    Hearing loss usually has nothing to do with mechanical damage to the eardrum or ear; rather, it's almost always due to the fact that loud noises cause the cilia in your cochlea to get ripped out (and they do not grow back). This microwave thing is still exciting your cochlea, so it's doing the same damn thing. The only difference is that the vibrations originate within your head, whose tissue is rapidly being heated and cooled by the microwaves. But your cilia don't give a damn about where the vibrations come from.

    Ugh.

  74. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by neomunk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, and as an aside, don't you just love how when you read a report on any Taser incident, the police never mention the LAW, it's always about POLICY. Think about that, they are concerned with POLICY over LAW, something you would expect from a for-profit industry trying to maximize gains, but from a government agency specifically designed to uphold the LAW?

    I know, some people are going to say that they follow policy which is more strict than the law, to which I call bullshit. If -I- were to taser you for noncompliance, I go to jail, because of my lack of a State Authorized shiny piece of tin on my chest. It's really that simple, just because you're a cop, doesn't mean you can break the law, the only instances of special treatment allowed by law are those bits that are actually CODIFIED into the law, anything else is abusing your position (that position being that it's far less likely to be arrested). I highly doubt that there are laws allowing you to physically harm someone who is not breaking any laws, but it seems that many police officers mistakenly think that whatever they tell you to do IS law.

  75. Re:Use for the Deaf. by TerranFury · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's one of the things that the guy selling the thing (in TFA) mentioned, actually.

    My understanding:
    This device creates vibrations in the target by rapidly heating and cooling it. Since these vibrations are in the tissue (especially bone) of your head, they reach your inner ear (cochlea) directly. So, they could help with certain kinds of deafness: namely, deafness caused by mechanical damage to the outer ear, but which leaves the nerves in the inner ear intact.

    However, it seems you should be able to achieve exactly the same thing by sending acoustic waves through the skull by other means. In particular, all you need is a small speaker in direct contact with your head. That's exactly what certain existing hearing aids do. (See the Wikipedia article on Bone conduction for more.)

    Hence, my opinion is that this microwave device really doesn't have any good uses which are not more easily and safely achieved by other means.

  76. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by pha7boy · · Score: 2, Funny

    So we'll change "Don't tase me Bro" to "Don't Microwave my head bro?" -- Not sure I like the ring to that.

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  77. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Who could have known Scanners would be so prescient?

  78. Re:And we wonder why people are paranoid? by nikolajsheller · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Murder is murder, but if mentally ill people received actual help, instead indifference, from society and the heath care system, some murders and/or suicides might be avoided.
    Wouldn't the money be better spent treating people prior to problems cropping instead of keeping them locked up afterwards?
    A criminal justice system is not designed to help sick people.

  79. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by griffman99h · · Score: 2, Funny

    And here is the real reason subliminal messages are not used. While in fact you feel the need to drink duff beer right now. because of a mistimed cadence within the GP that same beer will now taste alot like cow manure.

  80. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by bckrispi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also, there is a *big* difference between seeing someone simply going limp after being tazed, and seeing someone getting beaten down with a billy-club. These situations play out very differently when broadcast on the 6:00 news.

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  81. crap - advertising you cant turn off by johnrpenner · · Score: 2, Funny

    just what we need - advertising with no volume control,
    and no way to turn it off. :-P

  82. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Goaway · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, nobody's laughing at you. That's just me with my ray gun putting laughing voices in your head.

  83. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by __aajfby9338 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Atheism is not a religion. Religion requires faith and absence of faith is not faith. Insistence on evidence is the inverse of faith.

    You appear to have atheism confused with agnosticism. Agnostics are the ones who neither believe nor disbelieve in divine being(s) because of the lack of evidence, while atheists believe that there are no divine beings with no more evidence than believers in any other religion have. In other words, atheists base their beliefs on faith, not evidence, since there is no accepted evidence that either proves or disproves the existence of divine beings.

  84. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by jmorris42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > If -I- were to taser you for noncompliance, I go to jail, because of
    > my lack of a State Authorized shiny piece of tin on my chest.

    One definition of 'government' is that it is the entity which claims a monopoly on the 'legitimate' use of force. Something to keep in mind when considering giving it additional authority, especially if the task can possibly be done by a private entity.

    But thankfully our form of government (US) doesn't give a monopoly on teh use of force to the State. You CAN tase a bro if he is attempting to use force against you and in most jurisdictions (i.e those that are lawless) you will not be punished. The 2nd Amendment was recently affirmed to protect an individual right to the possession, bearing and yes the lawful use thereof. Our government gets it's powers from We the People and thus in theory doesn't any powers we didn't have to give it and we kept a generous portion.

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  85. Tinfoil is so tacky... by kent_eh · · Score: 2, Funny

    wearable Faraday cages are the new fashion statement.

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  86. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by dontmakemethink · · Score: 2

    I see enormous benefits in this technology.

    1. Listening to music as loud as you want while not forcing it on others

    You can count on two things: microwaves generating "cranial audio illusions" of the same magnitude of a loud rock show will be deadly, and the frequency range will be limited, nowhere near 20-20k Hz.

    A rock show will have upwards of 30,000W of power driving speakers of the highest efficiency available. So imagine sticking your head into about 40 microwave ovens at once. It's ok, they're not tuned to the water-boiling frequency. You'll be just fine. Promise.

    Knock on your head, that's probably the lowest note that can be produced, and not much more than maybe two octaves above that. Beyond that range the sounds either can't be produced or cannot pass through the grey matter. For lower tones you'd have to resonate the ribcage, but I expect ribs don't reflect microwaves nearly as well as the skull. For higher sounds you'd have to target the inner ear itself very precisely. Unless the target is wearing custom earrings for a guidance system to follow, you're s.o.l.

    2. Rocking out to the loudest concert in history without anyone outside the venue hearing a whisper of it (on second thought, the RIAA might require this, so maybe it's not so good)

    If sound waves were created inside someone of the magnitude of a loud rock show, it would be very audible to others. When you "feel the bass" it's up around 127dB and literally making your ribcage resonate. Believe me, you need much more power to drive a room full of people compared to an empty one, and that's a two-way street - a crowd full of resonating ribcages would radiate no less than a sound system. If >127dB were produced inside you your ribcage would essentially be a passive subwoofer, possibly resulting in the much-heralded "brown note".

    3. Throwing a gigantic party with great tunes while letting the geezer next door -- who never listens to anything harder than Captain and Tennille -- get his beauty sleep

    You and your guests would be discovered dead by your much irritated geezer neighbor. And let's not overlook how loud they would have to shout at each other to be heard over the music.

    Also it's unlikely that the effect could be produced from omnidirectional microwave emitters. It has to be a pair of directional emitters, like two lasers and not a light bulb. The effect is called a "resultant". Hit two adjacent high keys on a piano and you'll hear a lower note underneath, the result of constructive modular interference. No one emitter can produce resultants, and the relative distance between the target and the emitters would have to be exactly equal.

    I wonder how many people I just got to hit themselves in the head...

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  87. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    2. Rocking out to the loudest concert in history without anyone outside the venue hearing a whisper of it (on second thought, the RIAA might require this, so maybe it's not so good)

    Followed by a dead-black spaceship plummeting into a nearby sun.

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  88. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by couchslug · · Score: 2, Funny

    4. Telling Westboro Baptist Church members that God doesn't hate fags, She hate _them_.

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  89. Sierra Nevada special powers by valhallaprime · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always have used Sierra Nevada to REMOVE the voices in my head. Better yet, it comes in different styles, and the headache and confusion are time-delayed in their version of the product by at least 8 hours.

    Increasing the dosage slightly makes you impervious to the voices OUTSIDE your head as well. Comes in handy when others want to "abort the mission".

    Amazingly, increasing your dosage even more actually renders you completely INVISIBLE. Might be a slight shimmer like predator, because others with Sierra Nevada Invisiblility can still occasionally find you, especially if you owe them money.

    Unfortunately, when you try to bring any of your newfound powers near a car or other vehicle, motorized or not, dangerous wormholes can be created, warping you right into nearby objects with startling unpredictablility. DO NOT ATTEMPT. That whole "great power, great responsibility" thing.

    I wonder what a Military-Grade/Weaponized version of the holiday Celebration Ale would do....

  90. Behind The Curve(s) by DynaSoar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...a damned scary ray gun that uses the 'microwave audio effect' to implant sounds and perhaps even specific messages inside people's heads."

    A little late to be crying "damned scary" wolf. The effects was proven about 25 years ago.

    Yes, specific messages. In the original research the test was to beam spoken numbers (one at a time, 1 through 20) at the subject and have them guess which number it was. Results were 80% to 100% correct.

    It's not subliminal in the denotation of 'below the level of conscious awareness'. The perception is that of a "heard" sound.

    I'm surprised it took this long for someone to come out with this. The original works was, after all, done on commercially technology of the time.

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  91. Re:Ha! See! I told you! by aproposofwhat · · Score: 2, Funny

    audible spam in my head

    Damn you - I won't be able to get those bloody Vikings out of my mind for days now!

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