hey all you engineers. yeah I know you're reading this. yeah I have no idea what the acronym could be but what it does is simple... what sort of energy, processing, and weight requirements are needed to build a little ball of a robot. to detach, fly by, and return, any tool sized object an astronaut may let go of. this shouldn't be that hard. a lot of you guys are smarter than me. I'm sure you can spend a little time writing the equations up here. lets get something going. and if anyone actually gets off their ass and makes something happen, we might even get paid.
I hate to break in on this disscussion with a does of reality but, did any of you even read the summary???
There's no sun spots. none... well yeah there's one right there now but there hasn't been much of any for a while now...
What I'm getting at though.... unless you have a mighty big telescope or happen to be floating out at a Lagrange point with SOHO... all you are going to get with any kind of filtering on a hand held DSLR is a bright featureless ball.
its only semi-stable in the shorter time span. its actually already pulling away over time, though it will take millions of years...
But given millions of years... would we want to increase the weight or decrease the speed to counteract the outward momentum? any appreciable increase in mass we can accomplish may amount to only a benefit.
first off. sun spots do tend to last longer than 12 days.... the larger objects can sometimes be recognized on their second or third passes. that's more common during solar max...
now If you look at the green, EIT spectrum from SOHO..sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov (which reveals magnetic forces really well) where the sunspots are going to form is very obvious.. so even the minute "sun specks" are visible as large areas of twisting magnetic energy. the magnetic field lines have to get pretty concentrated to form a visible sunspot...
...also keep in mind SOHO wasn't in space back in 1913 so what they are calling a "sun Speck" would not have been a visible "spot" to the telescopes of the time..
I find it funny they keep pushing back cycle 24 start time.. a year ago it was suppose to be a noticeable increase back in April. the lengths people go to so as to avoid a panic just astounds me.
their hour is worth more than $30 to them.. their employer may undervalue their time like most companies. when I worked for myself it was worth $50 and hour for me to waste my time removing bloatware....
never heard of "race on Sunday, sell on Monday" I take it? Granted, F1 and Nascar's direct next day delivery has waned in the last few decades but the point of the benefit is still there. pushing the limits of competition pushes the limits of innovation which has a greater net benefit in the long run...
...I can't believe I just defended Nascar... as a technological innovator no less.. to counter my own point those hicks would have to switch to cold fusion powered vehicles for a full decade to make up for the resources they have squandered in their tenure. I have to go shower a few times now..
I couldn't believe how long those two went at it over so little.. and the fact I was compelled to reply the whole time..
but you're right the ending made this an epic fight.lol
And just to add to the flames... I know exactly why this even got started. its plainly obvious and a few posters below have pointed it out as well.. He's a console kiddie defending against an aged PC player. sure both sides have tried titles on the other.. But FPS's do not belong on a console, any PC player will tell you that. You of course can't follow the HL2 story when dealing with the horrid controls of a port. His entire defense of his experience displayed precisely where it was lacking.
Halo was good, ok story, great multiplayer. HL and HL2 has such subtlety and depth very little can compare to it. don't go defining what a FPS is unless you can remember loading Wolfenstien3d on the school network with your friends.
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any chance of posting the torrent? I'll do my normal search when I'm not at work but figure I'd ask for the sake of laziness...
And here is the real reason subliminal messages are not used. While in fact you feel the need to drink duff beer right now. because of a mistimed cadence within the GP that same beer will now taste alot like cow manure.
The oven is being used to detect organic compounds in the presence of water if I'm not mistaken. Orbital scans have pretty much proven the existence of water up till now. any water ice sublimating would still leave the organics behind in the sample. Kind of silly to go all that way just to boil some water.
I think we're giving to much credit to those that are refusing to admit human fault to climate change. Their problem stems from the fact that they (still) think linearly....
For generations, when something unexplained happened and everyone around was asking "why?", the only accepted answer for the non-scientist thinkers in leadership roles was "God did it". A nice, simple, singular explanation. And the masses would buy it.
These same types of people, being presented with all the chaos before them, are still looking for a singular answer. They know they can't resort to "God did it" as much as they'd like to. That explanation has lost its power and would remove them from leadership.
So now we spend our time in debates such as this. where we get "Its not x causing this, its y over here, leave x alone".
But the truth of complexity is parallelism. its not x OR y.. Its x,y, AND z. and to boot... a, b, AND c are counteracting forces.
yes the Solar cycle is in flux, yes it has been warming all planets, yes we may possibly be at a switch and heading for rapid cooling. we'll find that out soon enough.
Yes CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Yes we've pumped more into the atmosphere then any natural process in centuries. And yes its having an effect. Also, yes we are dumping tonnes of particulate matter into the air as well, counteracting the CO2 gain to a degree.
These are all true. and these are all factors. And there are MANY other factors involved. we only control some of them. and we can only estimate their overall effect to the whole system. What we need to be doing is not point fingers and saying "thats the cause, not me" we need to be accounting for each and every effect, including our own, and deciding if they help or hinder the overall system.
We need to pay attention, be ready to react to change. for change is coming. and to force the status qou will only bring destruction upon yourself and those you love. Survive and adapt. That is how one succeeds in an evolving universe.
The Sun has a known gravitational effect on the tides as well. Hense higher tides on full and new moons. plus AFAIK a tidal generator would derive some power output from wave action, which is most definitely wind/sun generated (discounting the seismic activity, which has been speculated as being solar induced as well)..... you know, since you're picking nits...
So if this is to be believed, then with a current world population of 6,697,254,041 (*75,000)
It would cost 502,294,053,075,000 per year
so 500 Trillion dollars a year for EVERYone to be happy.
Current world gdp is 61 Trillion.
My Utopian dream bubble has been popped.
hey all you engineers. yeah I know you're reading this. yeah I have no idea what the acronym could be but what it does is simple... what sort of energy, processing, and weight requirements are needed to build a little ball of a robot. to detach, fly by, and return, any tool sized object an astronaut may let go of. this shouldn't be that hard. a lot of you guys are smarter than me. I'm sure you can spend a little time writing the equations up here. lets get something going. and if anyone actually gets off their ass and makes something happen, we might even get paid.
I mean come on, be original for once.
All hail the Magic Celestial Vagina!
That's my wife you midget!
2012 is the scheduled Solar Max. so regardless of what happens...
There's no sun spots. none... well yeah there's one right there now but there hasn't been much of any for a while now...
What I'm getting at though.... unless you have a mighty big telescope or happen to be floating out at a Lagrange point with SOHO... all you are going to get with any kind of filtering on a hand held DSLR is a bright featureless ball.
sorry to be a downer.
griffman
But given millions of years... would we want to increase the weight or decrease the speed to counteract the outward momentum? any appreciable increase in mass we can accomplish may amount to only a benefit.
.... Matter of fact its all dark. :)
first off. sun spots do tend to last longer than 12 days.... the larger objects can sometimes be recognized on their second or third passes. that's more common during solar max...
now If you look at the green, EIT spectrum from SOHO..sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov (which reveals magnetic forces really well) where the sunspots are going to form is very obvious.. so even the minute "sun specks" are visible as large areas of twisting magnetic energy. the magnetic field lines have to get pretty concentrated to form a visible sunspot...
I find it funny they keep pushing back cycle 24 start time.. a year ago it was suppose to be a noticeable increase back in April. the lengths people go to so as to avoid a panic just astounds me.
this is roughly what should be paid to a decent custom builder putting together the same machine that is more reliable and performs better.
but this is why most decent custom builders are out of business...
their hour is worth more than $30 to them.. their employer may undervalue their time like most companies. when I worked for myself it was worth $50 and hour for me to waste my time removing bloatware....
if everyone that keeps saying its a joke would start pushing instead of laughing it might actually get somewhere.
but you're right the ending made this an epic fight.lol
And just to add to the flames... I know exactly why this even got started. its plainly obvious and a few posters below have pointed it out as well.. He's a console kiddie defending against an aged PC player. sure both sides have tried titles on the other.. But FPS's do not belong on a console, any PC player will tell you that. You of course can't follow the HL2 story when dealing with the horrid controls of a port. His entire defense of his experience displayed precisely where it was lacking.
Halo was good, ok story, great multiplayer. HL and HL2 has such subtlety and depth very little can compare to it. don't go defining what a FPS is unless you can remember loading Wolfenstien3d on the school network with your friends.
any chance of posting the torrent? I'll do my normal search when I'm not at work but figure I'd ask for the sake of laziness...
...there's still no dirt. I wont be impressed till I see some grime build up on a fender in realtime.
grant money?
ludicrous speed is too fast for the majority.
"Indiana Jones in The Battle for the Final MacGuffin"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin
And here is the real reason subliminal messages are not used. While in fact you feel the need to drink duff beer right now. because of a mistimed cadence within the GP that same beer will now taste alot like cow manure.
The oven is being used to detect organic compounds in the presence of water if I'm not mistaken. Orbital scans have pretty much proven the existence of water up till now. any water ice sublimating would still leave the organics behind in the sample. Kind of silly to go all that way just to boil some water.
griffman
I think we're giving to much credit to those that are refusing to admit human fault to climate change. Their problem stems from the fact that they (still) think linearly....
For generations, when something unexplained happened and everyone around was asking "why?", the only accepted answer for the non-scientist thinkers in leadership roles was "God did it". A nice, simple, singular explanation. And the masses would buy it.
These same types of people, being presented with all the chaos before them, are still looking for a singular answer. They know they can't resort to "God did it" as much as they'd like to. That explanation has lost its power and would remove them from leadership.
So now we spend our time in debates such as this. where we get "Its not x causing this, its y over here, leave x alone".
But the truth of complexity is parallelism. its not x OR y.. Its x,y, AND z. and to boot... a, b, AND c are counteracting forces.
yes the Solar cycle is in flux, yes it has been warming all planets, yes we may possibly be at a switch and heading for rapid cooling. we'll find that out soon enough.
Yes CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Yes we've pumped more into the atmosphere then any natural process in centuries. And yes its having an effect. Also, yes we are dumping tonnes of particulate matter into the air as well, counteracting the CO2 gain to a degree.
These are all true. and these are all factors. And there are MANY other factors involved. we only control some of them. and we can only estimate their overall effect to the whole system. What we need to be doing is not point fingers and saying "thats the cause, not me" we need to be accounting for each and every effect, including our own, and deciding if they help or hinder the overall system.
We need to pay attention, be ready to react to change. for change is coming. and to force the status qou will only bring destruction upon yourself and those you love. Survive and adapt. That is how one succeeds in an evolving universe.
Griffman
yar
The Sun has a known gravitational effect on the tides as well. Hense higher tides on full and new moons. plus AFAIK a tidal generator would derive some power output from wave action, which is most definitely wind/sun generated (discounting the seismic activity, which has been speculated as being solar induced as well)..... you know, since you're picking nits...
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