Not necessarily. The boxes are 24/7 vampires unless they're breakered every night at a strip or wall. My gym had to get a box from comcast last week for EVERY cardio machine that had an integrated TV. This meant 35 boxes. Each one runs warm, and also requires a remote control (no controls on the box). So in addition to 10-20 watts per box times 35, there's also 2X AA's times 35 once a year or so. If you're conservative with the numbers, that's 8.4 KWh a day of power draw that didn't exist before, regardless of a TV being on or not.
>>>CFLs? Or just standard fluorescent tubes? The halls in Penn State's dorms were all ~3 feet long tube-lights, not CFLs
Our dorms were almost entirely 65W incan floods. Crazy, right?
Every double and quad also has a 6.5 GPM (measured) YMCA style showerhead too, with electric waterheaters. Now that's ridiculous. Replaced one floor of 10 doubles with 2.2 GPM showerheads, $500-$650 lower powerbills PER MONTH for the floor (20 residents), depending on the inlet water temperature, which varies with the seasons. Showerheads paid for themselves in 3 weeks.
It really depends on the brand of the bulb. I've had a few Philips that were bought in the 90's, used every night dusk till dawn outside, and they lasted 10+ years. In our school dorms, I replaced a few spots in the common area with a few of the older looped (not squared-off) Ikea 11W'ers. Light's are on 24/7/365. 6 of the 8 are at 2+ years now, that's almost 20,000 hours, on -already used- bulbs.
We replaced all the hall lights in the dorms with 13 watt and 20 watt CFL's, for a total of about 45 bulbs. All GE brand....4 have failed after 18 months of 24/7/365. The rest are still going strong. That's still way above their spec of 8,000hrs IIRC.
I've used a few FEIT and Lights Across America. One LAA had a "bad failure", where the ballast base actually started smoking. The FEIT's had a pretty wide range of color temp, for being the same model.
For organizations such as ourselves where we have areas that need to be lit 24/7/365, the savings are very easily calculated. In the 24/7 sockets, with myself and a student worker volunteering our time to purchase and install the bulbs, the cost of the bulb payed for itself in electric savings (city industrial rate, $0.141/kwh) in less than 5 weeks, over the 65W incan floods they replaced. Crazy.
What a stupid post.
Oh I guess you believed the rhetoric that when Obama's elected, people are gonna come and collect all your guns up and melt them down.
I guess he's a closet Muslim too, right?
Why don't you read his official stance on gun ownership and sportsmanship. Or did you already have Sean Hannity read it to you?
I always have used Sierra Nevada to REMOVE the voices in my head. Better yet, it comes in different styles, and the headache and confusion are time-delayed in their version of the product by at least 8 hours.
Increasing the dosage slightly makes you impervious to the voices OUTSIDE your head as well. Comes in handy when others want to "abort the mission".
Amazingly, increasing your dosage even more actually renders you completely INVISIBLE. Might be a slight shimmer like predator, because others with Sierra Nevada Invisiblility can still occasionally find you, especially if you owe them money.
Unfortunately, when you try to bring any of your newfound powers near a car or other vehicle, motorized or not, dangerous wormholes can be created, warping you right into nearby objects with startling unpredictablility. DO NOT ATTEMPT. That whole "great power, great responsibility" thing.
I wonder what a Military-Grade/Weaponized version of the holiday Celebration Ale would do....
Years ago, in the late 90's, one of my Dewey beach housemates was a buyer for Spencer's Gifts. She handled the Kiss merchandising as well. Gene "Tongue the dolla$" Simmons would call up every day to her to get the -daily- sales figures from Spencer's sales war-room. She thought it was so funny, as she wasn't a real fan, and that their "reunion" tours and public appearances always coinciding with declining sales of their Spencer's merchandising.
After all those years between then and now, I finally watched that show a few months back that follows him and his family. Seeing how he is in real life, her conversations in dealing with him become so much more indicative of the type of person he is. This guy, since the early days of the band, is only in it for the money, hands down. The comments from him in TFA are zero-surprise for me.
EXACTLY! It's not like junk e-mail, where it's a nuisance but relatively harmless. I'm getting sent shit that actively is a danger to my financial self. And there's no viable way to stop it.
I live in a city...what's to stop someone from just plucking the unopened offer from my house-attached mailbox? Total Bullshit, these mailings.
But see, this is where the absolute bullshit lies in these credit card companies marketing deparments. We just bought a shredder, in able to take care of the 5-15 Credit Card solicitations we get EACH WEEK at our household. PEOPLE, this is crazy how much each -month- the same companies are spending to market to me, week after week. To top it off, I then have to take time out of my day to make sure these are absolutely destroyed so that my identity is not stolen. I had about 2 months worth of old "shredworthy" mail saved up before i bought the shredder. It filled the trashcan and overheated the shredder twice before i was done. 2 months worth of Credit Card offers ALONE filled an 11 gallon trashbag packed TIGHT in just 2months!!!
Dear CapitalOne,
Sending me an application with some craptastically crafted offer letter and fake plastic card that gums up the shredderbot9000 EVERY 5 DAYS is just not gonna work. Also, each and every one of those mailings serves as a potential liability to my financial livelihood. Thanks for costing me time, money and worry.
40 Movies and 14 Gigs of Mp3s? You would almost need a WHOLE ipod Video just to hold all that stuff! And what IT worker has 14 gigs at his disposal?
Sheesh, next he'll want more than 640KB of RAM.
Hundreds of blank DVD's? Oh wow, that's absolutely insane, considering they only sell them in spools of 50-100. I mean, i wouldn't even know where to put 2 or 3 WHOLE spools of DVD'rs, let alone hide them from satellite imagery.
"The operating system doesn't merely fall apart - it's broken apart by the equivalent of roaming street thugs."
I strongly agree with this. I'm not pro or anti-MS, I just happen to be a SysAdmin that uses their stuff every day, and manages 120 desktops. It's just a fact that there are a lot of shady monkeys that are trying 24/7 to find exploits, holes, and other crap for nefarious deeds.
Call it civic duty, but once a week I spend an hour going thru my spam-logs, and pick a couple (that are obviously being sent from 0wn3d boxen), trace their IP, look up which provider owns the range. I then call their NOC (Which is almost always listed in their WhoIs record), and report the IP (if they're a U.S. provider).
I honestly get a call-back one out of every three times from a provider, saying they've found the hostile traffic coming from that address, and they temporarily block access, or alerted the sysadmin managing the address.
It may be little, but it's sorta civic duty to do something about this from time to time. Kudos to Cavalier and Verizon especially for following up on my calls.
Agreed, And especially with the addition of a 9550 with 32MB, now we can once again never think of playing any modern game, or have full Core-Image support. Seriously. A 9550. At 32MB. What, did ATI have some lying around from 2003 and decided to cut apple a deal on a few truckfulls of the chipset? I would LOVE to see how the marketing department sat around brainstorming the copy for this hardware upgrade/addition.
Also, although it's been said before, why oh why does the 14" STILL have only a 1024 screen?
Well, I am freshly back from the AMD tech tour event in East Brunswick last night, and this specific question came during the Q and A with "TEH EXPERT5" - The question of DDR2 support.
The actual engineer on staff at the event answered it, and stated flat out that there was no performance gain until at least DDR2-667, and that alone "was only about 5% or so faster than DDR400 running in dual channel mode". He even went so far as to say that "DDR2-533, with it's increased latency over DDR400, has a negative impact of OVER 5%", and makes no sense to jump to. This was because of the efficiency already inherent in the HyperTransport bus, according to him.
He talked for about 5 minutes on the issue, and the gist of it was that until DDR2-667 specifically started to become more affordable, the incremental speed boost didn't make any sense for anyone, including and users and AMD Proc Support.
Incidentally, he also mentioned that DDR2 would (of course) require significant redesign in the built-in memory controller of the 939 chips, unless registered memory was used. This sorta implies in a friday morning-drove-all-night-from-NJ way that the current 939's would not support DDR2 if there were to be 939 mobo's with DDR2 support.
The Mac Mini, however, is positioned differently, and -dare it be said-, does not really need to be considered for a speed bump at this time. The lower-power consumption G4 in there dissipates very little heat, and serves the needs of most users it is marketed for.
I purchased one the day of release at the local Apple Store, getting one of 50 that Delaware received. It has been an absolute perfect replacement for my grandparent's Performa 6200. Without an optical spinning, it is really damn quiet, and hooked up to my UPS, it reported the power draw under 50 watts under load! Faster procs mean more power usage, and speed that the average user of a mini will not use. 1.25ghz G4 is hella plenty for Surfing, digiphoto organizing, email, and burning their audio disks. It really is the gateway/Entry level mac digital appliance for the masses.
Any other company, you'd scream for their heads? Are you crazy? for what? I totally agree with the above 2 replies, and am totally befuddled for your comment of "holding apple accountable for their actions". What actions? Oh, the spyware Gator link you had that was dated a year ago? Even if it was the real Apple, chances strongly are that it was a media buy done by one of their many ad agencies, without their knowledge. Oh, and let's behead apple because they want to find out where sensitive (NDA-CLASS!) leaks are originating from within their company.
Finally, as an extremely minor stockholder in Apple, who has tripled his once-3digit value in 1 year...on behalf of the Board of Directors of Apple Computer, We for one, welcome your non-support of us.
Nasa now has their new cash crop...if only they can get it back to earth.
Seriously, this sounds like a bad sci-fi reality show. So i say, let the NASA Survivor begin....
16 Engineers....One Space Station....450 Amazing X10 cameras throughout....Who will be left at the end of the season to take the single-seat escape pod to earth, which has presumably NOT become a secret micro-eggsack lair of the Happy Fun Ball.
Tune in next week for Guest Star/Guest Victim Paul Reiser....
Kudos to Kyle for standing up to the bullying tactics that seem to become more and more pervasive each year.
Also, it is just absolutely astounding that IL would go after a site that caters news to a potential customer base easily in the tens of thousands for them. Guess they weren't planning on succeeding with their vaporous Phantom in the first place.....unless it was to be the ultimate platform for the ultimate vapor-sequel, Duke Nukem....
Thank god, nothing says "brand-loyalty" like SCO.
Please if someone in a large advertising firm is watching this, call them up and pitch them a nice 4-minute commercial during the superbowl.
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Whoops, noticed they changed it. My bad. Last one I got was a tad larger form factor and had 2 x 1.5s in there.
There's 2 x 1.5TB drives in that.
Not necessarily. The boxes are 24/7 vampires unless they're breakered every night at a strip or wall. My gym had to get a box from comcast last week for EVERY cardio machine that had an integrated TV. This meant 35 boxes. Each one runs warm, and also requires a remote control (no controls on the box). So in addition to 10-20 watts per box times 35, there's also 2X AA's times 35 once a year or so. If you're conservative with the numbers, that's 8.4 KWh a day of power draw that didn't exist before, regardless of a TV being on or not.
Why not just put a small piece of tape right over the antenna seam? That would hinder the skin conductivity, right?
>>>CFLs? Or just standard fluorescent tubes? The halls in Penn State's dorms were all ~3 feet long tube-lights, not CFLs
Our dorms were almost entirely 65W incan floods. Crazy, right?
Every double and quad also has a 6.5 GPM (measured) YMCA style showerhead too, with electric waterheaters. Now that's ridiculous. Replaced one floor of 10 doubles with 2.2 GPM showerheads, $500-$650 lower powerbills PER MONTH for the floor (20 residents), depending on the inlet water temperature, which varies with the seasons. Showerheads paid for themselves in 3 weeks.
It really depends on the brand of the bulb. I've had a few Philips that were bought in the 90's, used every night dusk till dawn outside, and they lasted 10+ years. In our school dorms, I replaced a few spots in the common area with a few of the older looped (not squared-off) Ikea 11W'ers. Light's are on 24/7/365. 6 of the 8 are at 2+ years now, that's almost 20,000 hours, on -already used- bulbs.
We replaced all the hall lights in the dorms with 13 watt and 20 watt CFL's, for a total of about 45 bulbs. All GE brand....4 have failed after 18 months of 24/7/365. The rest are still going strong. That's still way above their spec of 8,000hrs IIRC.
I've used a few FEIT and Lights Across America. One LAA had a "bad failure", where the ballast base actually started smoking. The FEIT's had a pretty wide range of color temp, for being the same model.
For organizations such as ourselves where we have areas that need to be lit 24/7/365, the savings are very easily calculated. In the 24/7 sockets, with myself and a student worker volunteering our time to purchase and install the bulbs, the cost of the bulb payed for itself in electric savings (city industrial rate, $0.141/kwh) in less than 5 weeks, over the 65W incan floods they replaced. Crazy.
What a stupid post. Oh I guess you believed the rhetoric that when Obama's elected, people are gonna come and collect all your guns up and melt them down. I guess he's a closet Muslim too, right? Why don't you read his official stance on gun ownership and sportsmanship. Or did you already have Sean Hannity read it to you?
Sounds to me like you need to finally move that huge magnetron out of your office. Find better ways to heat your space.
I always have used Sierra Nevada to REMOVE the voices in my head. Better yet, it comes in different styles, and the headache and confusion are time-delayed in their version of the product by at least 8 hours.
Increasing the dosage slightly makes you impervious to the voices OUTSIDE your head as well. Comes in handy when others want to "abort the mission".
Amazingly, increasing your dosage even more actually renders you completely INVISIBLE. Might be a slight shimmer like predator, because others with Sierra Nevada Invisiblility can still occasionally find you, especially if you owe them money.
Unfortunately, when you try to bring any of your newfound powers near a car or other vehicle, motorized or not, dangerous wormholes can be created, warping you right into nearby objects with startling unpredictablility. DO NOT ATTEMPT. That whole "great power, great responsibility" thing.
I wonder what a Military-Grade/Weaponized version of the holiday Celebration Ale would do....
Years ago, in the late 90's, one of my Dewey beach housemates was a buyer for Spencer's Gifts. She handled the Kiss merchandising as well. Gene "Tongue the dolla$" Simmons would call up every day to her to get the -daily- sales figures from Spencer's sales war-room. She thought it was so funny, as she wasn't a real fan, and that their "reunion" tours and public appearances always coinciding with declining sales of their Spencer's merchandising.
After all those years between then and now, I finally watched that show a few months back that follows him and his family. Seeing how he is in real life, her conversations in dealing with him become so much more indicative of the type of person he is. This guy, since the early days of the band, is only in it for the money, hands down. The comments from him in TFA are zero-surprise for me.
To counter someone's claim with a Wikipedia entry is just about as "wrong".
EXACTLY! It's not like junk e-mail, where it's a nuisance but relatively harmless. I'm getting sent shit that actively is a danger to my financial self. And there's no viable way to stop it.
I live in a city...what's to stop someone from just plucking the unopened offer from my house-attached mailbox? Total Bullshit, these mailings.
But see, this is where the absolute bullshit lies in these credit card companies marketing deparments. We just bought a shredder, in able to take care of the 5-15 Credit Card solicitations we get EACH WEEK at our household. PEOPLE, this is crazy how much each -month- the same companies are spending to market to me, week after week. To top it off, I then have to take time out of my day to make sure these are absolutely destroyed so that my identity is not stolen. I had about 2 months worth of old "shredworthy" mail saved up before i bought the shredder. It filled the trashcan and overheated the shredder twice before i was done. 2 months worth of Credit Card offers ALONE filled an 11 gallon trashbag packed TIGHT in just 2months!!!
Dear CapitalOne,
Sending me an application with some craptastically crafted offer letter and fake plastic card that gums up the shredderbot9000 EVERY 5 DAYS is just not gonna work. Also, each and every one of those mailings serves as a potential liability to my financial livelihood. Thanks for costing me time, money and worry.
40 Movies and 14 Gigs of Mp3s? You would almost need a WHOLE ipod Video just to hold all that stuff! And what IT worker has 14 gigs at his disposal?
Sheesh, next he'll want more than 640KB of RAM.
Hundreds of blank DVD's? Oh wow, that's absolutely insane, considering they only sell them in spools of 50-100. I mean, i wouldn't even know where to put 2 or 3 WHOLE spools of DVD'rs, let alone hide them from satellite imagery.
He's the right-wing radical Christian lawyer version of Gary Busey. That's all.
"The operating system doesn't merely fall apart - it's broken apart by the equivalent of roaming street thugs."
I strongly agree with this. I'm not pro or anti-MS, I just happen to be a SysAdmin that uses their stuff every day, and manages 120 desktops. It's just a fact that there are a lot of shady monkeys that are trying 24/7 to find exploits, holes, and other crap for nefarious deeds.
Call it civic duty, but once a week I spend an hour going thru my spam-logs, and pick a couple (that are obviously being sent from 0wn3d boxen), trace their IP, look up which provider owns the range. I then call their NOC (Which is almost always listed in their WhoIs record), and report the IP (if they're a U.S. provider).
I honestly get a call-back one out of every three times from a provider, saying they've found the hostile traffic coming from that address, and they temporarily block access, or alerted the sysadmin managing the address.
It may be little, but it's sorta civic duty to do something about this from time to time. Kudos to Cavalier and Verizon especially for following up on my calls.
Agreed, And especially with the addition of a 9550 with 32MB, now we can once again never think of playing any modern game, or have full Core-Image support. Seriously. A 9550. At 32MB. What, did ATI have some lying around from 2003 and decided to cut apple a deal on a few truckfulls of the chipset? I would LOVE to see how the marketing department sat around brainstorming the copy for this hardware upgrade/addition. Also, although it's been said before, why oh why does the 14" STILL have only a 1024 screen?
Well, I am freshly back from the AMD tech tour event in East Brunswick last night, and this specific question came during the Q and A with "TEH EXPERT5" - The question of DDR2 support.
The actual engineer on staff at the event answered it, and stated flat out that there was no performance gain until at least DDR2-667, and that alone "was only about 5% or so faster than DDR400 running in dual channel mode". He even went so far as to say that "DDR2-533, with it's increased latency over DDR400, has a negative impact of OVER 5%", and makes no sense to jump to. This was because of the efficiency already inherent in the HyperTransport bus, according to him.
He talked for about 5 minutes on the issue, and the gist of it was that until DDR2-667 specifically started to become more affordable, the incremental speed boost didn't make any sense for anyone, including and users and AMD Proc Support.
Incidentally, he also mentioned that DDR2 would (of course) require significant redesign in the built-in memory controller of the 939 chips, unless registered memory was used. This sorta implies in a friday morning-drove-all-night-from-NJ way that the current 939's would not support DDR2 if there were to be 939 mobo's with DDR2 support.
The Mac Mini, however, is positioned differently, and -dare it be said-, does not really need to be considered for a speed bump at this time. The lower-power consumption G4 in there dissipates very little heat, and serves the needs of most users it is marketed for. I purchased one the day of release at the local Apple Store, getting one of 50 that Delaware received. It has been an absolute perfect replacement for my grandparent's Performa 6200. Without an optical spinning, it is really damn quiet, and hooked up to my UPS, it reported the power draw under 50 watts under load! Faster procs mean more power usage, and speed that the average user of a mini will not use. 1.25ghz G4 is hella plenty for Surfing, digiphoto organizing, email, and burning their audio disks. It really is the gateway/Entry level mac digital appliance for the masses.
Any other company, you'd scream for their heads? Are you crazy? for what? I totally agree with the above 2 replies, and am totally befuddled for your comment of "holding apple accountable for their actions". What actions? Oh, the spyware Gator link you had that was dated a year ago? Even if it was the real Apple, chances strongly are that it was a media buy done by one of their many ad agencies, without their knowledge. Oh, and let's behead apple because they want to find out where sensitive (NDA-CLASS!) leaks are originating from within their company. Finally, as an extremely minor stockholder in Apple, who has tripled his once-3digit value in 1 year...on behalf of the Board of Directors of Apple Computer, We for one, welcome your non-support of us.
Nasa now has their new cash crop...if only they can get it back to earth. Seriously, this sounds like a bad sci-fi reality show. So i say, let the NASA Survivor begin.... 16 Engineers....One Space Station....450 Amazing X10 cameras throughout....Who will be left at the end of the season to take the single-seat escape pod to earth, which has presumably NOT become a secret micro-eggsack lair of the Happy Fun Ball. Tune in next week for Guest Star/Guest Victim Paul Reiser....
Kudos to Kyle for standing up to the bullying tactics that seem to become more and more pervasive each year. Also, it is just absolutely astounding that IL would go after a site that caters news to a potential customer base easily in the tens of thousands for them. Guess they weren't planning on succeeding with their vaporous Phantom in the first place. ....unless it was to be the ultimate platform for the ultimate vapor-sequel, Duke Nukem....
Thank god, nothing says "brand-loyalty" like SCO. Please if someone in a large advertising firm is watching this, call them up and pitch them a nice 4-minute commercial during the superbowl.
By then Skynet will be in control, let it be the "Machines" problem.