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Researchers Pave Way For Compressor-Free Refrigeration
Hugh Pickens brings news that scientists from Penn State have developed a new method for heat-transfer that may replace the common compressor-based system used in household appliances. Quoting:
"Zhang's approach uses the change from disorganized to organized that occurs in some polarpolymers when placed in an electric field. The natural state of these materials is disorganized with the various molecules randomly positioned. When electricity is applied, the molecules become highly ordered and the material gives off heat and becomes colder. When the electricity is turned off, the material reverts to its disordered state and absorbs heat. The researchers report a change in temperature for the material of about 22.6 degrees Fahrenheit... Repeated randomizing and ordering of the material combined with an appropriate heat exchanger could provide a wide range of heating and cooling temperatures."
a "reverse" microwave?
What?
Unless this is more efficient than at least Peltier it won't become commercially viable.
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I'll say, that's an interesting use of entropy.
Man o man, how many times I've thought to myself "How can I get rid the compressor that powers my refrigerator?" Oh technology, what can't you do?
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wasn't there a compressionless sound wave-based cooling developed a few years back? i remember ben or jerry from ben-and-jerry's championing the efforts.
'cool'
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So the same place both exhausts the heat and gets cool? Sounds like a problem. At least with a compressor refrigerator the cold and hot spots are separate (much easier to insulate that way).
Congratulations on not even reading the whole fucking summary.
Perhaps they can work in series to achieve greater temperature differences.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
So, will this pave the way for a new style of super-cooling for the home computer overclocking enthusiast? ...
... cuz if not, I'm not really interested.
Wait, the fridge keeps my red-bull cold...
Hmm... I expect some readers to ignore the article and take the summary for granted, but did you even read the summary in total? "Repeated randomizing and ordering of the material combined with an appropriate heat exchanger could provide a wide range of heating and cooling temperatures." They will easily be able to get to normal refridgeration temperatures. Whether they can do this more efficiently than current technologies is another question entirely. It would have a great environmental impact if they could, as I assume this would also affect AC units and other temp-control devices in controlled environments within buildings.
How is this different from a Peltier cooler?
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Delta 22.6F is pretty meager. Peltier coolers hit Delta 40C, about 4x the differential.
This could feasibly be used to make a practical air conditioner by having a segmented disk shape block that allows air to pass through.
Outside air would pass through one half of the disk that is currently energised (the electric field orders the polymer and thus releases heat).
The inside air would pass through the other half that is currently not energised (the relaxation of the electric field allows the material to absorb heat).
The disk rotates with segments shifting between the outside / inside halves, the electric field is applied by a simple electric comutation.
This is not a true "no moving parts" system but it has the potential to be an order of magnitude quieter than the current air conditioning units.
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These polarpolymers include poly(vinylidene fluoride-trifluoroethylene) and poly(vinylidene fluoride-trifluoroethylene)-chlorofluoroethylene, ...
I'd like one of those poly-pola-try-viyl, er, I mean fluoro-frikkin-flora,.....
Ah, screw it. Gimme a fridge with a compressor.
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This is just one of those tons of press releases Universities put out to show themselves off. And researchers have to make this stuff to show NSF or whoever is funding that what they do is relevant to society.
Look at the website of almost any university and you know what I mean. You may come across my piece of FUD as well. Revolutionary break through in quantum coherence....? anyone?
The free market has no motivation to implement any more new technology. This is the exact same problem we have with Oil companies. Technology will not change until government forces step in and start providing incentives for new technologies. We still have the same home appliances we did 50 years ago, and that is not likely to change in the next 100 years. At the rate we are going we will most likely destroy ourselves before we see the technology of a refrigerator change.
What happened to the other compressorless methods? There was a method using sound a few years back that was supposed to be the next best thing...
Or Adsorption! Those fridges are very common where silent operation is needed: hotel mini-bars, offices. They're just not efficient.
The article is useless without mentioning efficiency. Inefficient alternatives are nothing new.
Being solid-state, one can hope this tech is silent. The buzz of our fridge-freezer is a pain.
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When a thing is giving off heat, we say it is "hotter": it has a higher temperature. When a thing is absorbing heat, we say it is "colder": it has a lower temperature.
You know, the sort of stuff they showed you in Primary School!!!!
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"...change from disorganized to organized..."
This sounds like it's forgetting some important law of physics, like, say, the second law of thermodynamics that states that the entropy of all real systems always increases.
But, hey, if you can breach that rule then you can also ignore the efficiency limits of a Carnot engine (which is really crappy) and you are home free to making the world a cooler place for a lot less effort.
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A compressor on a refrigerator lasts a very long time too, 20 to 30 years or more. One of the most reliable things out there. The biggest problem with refrigerators is the hinges and door seals wearing out.
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I am not a physicist, so feel free to flame me if my question is stupid. But the article mentions a design concept that would hook multiple devices up in a sequence or series, in order to continuously move a temperature in either direction. This concept would make sense if the principle of the phenomenon is based upon a relative temperature range, instead of an absolute range. But if that was true, that this phenomenon could alter an oven at 330 up to 350, or a refrigerator at 50 down to 30 freezing, and I can't imagine it being efficient without it also being magic. So, is it based upon a relative range of temperature, or an absolute one?
If your current fridge is too loud, then I suggest shopping for a new one. Many of the newer units feature far quieter compressors.
While you're at it, I'd suggest looking for an energy star one.
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http://www.eurekalert.org/features/doe/2001-11/dl-mrs062802.php
Maybe I didn't understand tfa well but it is my impression that it is talking about a solid material. As the material moves between ordered and disordered states there should be some kind of material fatigue, similar to what you get when you bend a piece of metal back and forth. It sounds to me like it will wear out quickly.
The problem you run into here is still efficiency.
Having to go with multiple stages, especially if they're not incredibly efficient, is a token for inefficiency.
Let's say they're 200% efficient. For every unit of energy spent, they move 2 units of heat.
We're going to need 2 units for a fridge, 3 units for a freezer. (80-46=34, good for fridge, not good for freezer).
Trouble - We spend 1 unit of electricity, move 2 units of heat to hot side. Due to the efficiency loses, 3 units of heat end up on the hot side.
So the second stage needs to be 50% larger, use 50% more energy, to finish the job. 1.5 units of energy move 3 units of heat, to exhaust 4.5 units of heat out of whatever radiator system exists.
We end up spending 2.5 units of electricity to move 2 units of heat out of the refrigerator.
Meanwhile compressor refrigerators are capable of doing this in one stage, while being capable of moving 2, even 3 units of heat per unit of electricity.
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You can freeze and melt water quite a few times before it wears out.
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It sound like they have essentially developed a solid refrigerant. That has got to be far less useful than a liquid refrigerant that can me moved around to where it is needed. Not to mention since there is no phase change involved you need a buttload more of this fancy polymer to get the same heat capacity.
Nah. This will never be economically competitive.
I could be wrong, but it sounds to me that without the compressor machinery, this could enable smaller, quieter cooling units and lead to products like battery-powered thermoses or air-conditioned clothing. Do any engineers have a take on this?
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My impression, backed by no solid information in tfa, was that the material stayed solid. In any event, it didn't mention a phase change.
"change from disorganized to organized"
Why can't they just say negative change in entropy? That way if anyone cared about what it meant, they could be on the Wikipedia article in seconds. How would I learn more about this phenomena if I did not know to look up entropy? There isn't even a publication attached.
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Oh, oh, oh! I have an idea. Let's combine this idea with a stirling engine and see what kind of synergies come out.
Polymer on each end of the engine, alternating current synchronized with the displacer, etc. etc. etc.
Whaddya think?
When Iowa State University was recruiting me out of high school I went to a Material Science demo there, where they had a working refridgeration unit based on this exact principle.
The problem then was simple efficiency, as in not efficient enough to be practical.
Going by the rough description in TFA, it sounds like electricity's effect on the ferropolymer causes its bonds to strengthen, or perhaps to magnetically align, increasing rigidity, reducing the material's potential for containing kinetic energy.
If the material's new state caps the amount of kinetic energy it can store, it has to move on - first law of thermodynamics and all.
This may be the next interesting bit in applying their discovery - finding a compatible heat conductor, and also learning the optimal frequency, voltage, current etc. at which to apply voltage.
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On a serious note, a 23 degree F differential is nice for things like keeping my drink at 55F in a 75F office, cooling a house from 90F to 75F, and it might aid compressor-based systems, but it won't work well alone in those parts of the world where daytime highs get much above 100F or in cars that get baked to 130F in the hot summer sun. Still, assuming my car battery is fully charged, being able to partially turn on my all-electric no-compressor car air conditioning 10 minutes before I get in can turn 130F to 110F or perhaps even down to 20F below the outside-air temperature, which is a big help. Also, having a self-chilling seat and steering wheel to keep them below scalding would be a godsend on those hot summer days.
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...weird, you'd only expect the weatherman to do that (or the yellow press trying to inflate a figure).
Tribute to Lord Kelvin, anyone?
Reminds me of something I learned about low-temp cryocooling way back in P.Chem:
Adiabatic Demagnetization.
sigfault (core dumped)
I'm not sure how close they come to reverse Carnot in a modern "fridge", but they are very durable. It seems like we had two refridgerators the whole time I was growing up, and the only reason we got the 2nd one was because we were in a different house. It's not exactly like they were being fixed all the time either. In fact, aside from the fact that the fridge we had when I was a kid required manual defrost, I don't think they ever required maintenance. The HVAC unit in my old condo had to be pulled. This was in 2006. When the tech opened it up, we discovered it was build in 1979. These units are essentially refrigerators too, with compressors. Now, that was a good old USA unit, with a steel housing and everything. I'm not sure if the cheapo plastic jobs they installed will hold up as well, but that's an implementation issue, not a problem inherent with the underlying tech.
The point is, can this new technology be as efficient as a compressor, as cheap as a compressor and as DURABLE as a compressor?
That said, perhaps it will find applications outside of keeping your OJ cool and your brow dry. If it does, great; but the current tech is pretty good. I wish they were silent, but even at that, a modern fridge is pretty quiet too.
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Please. You can do this with a rubber band. Stretch it and it becomes more "ordered" and hot. Release it and it gets cold. (Use your lips as a thermometer.) Not that *anything* like this makes a practical heat pump. For efficiency you need a *phase change*, and this principle just does not supply that.
I mean hot, no wait, nevermind. . .
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Researchers Pave Way For Compressor-Free Refrigeration
Actually, we've had usable refrigeration without a compressor for most of the last century. It's the gas absorption refrigerator and they are in RVs, dorm rooms and offices all over the world. In fact most small (as opposed to tiny) fridges don't have a compressor.
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Then we have a whole new Thermocouple technology the question is would it be any more efficient than existing thermocouples.
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There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about how a fridge based on these materials would work. Compare it with existing refrigeration systems: -
1) Compressor based systems. Here a working fluid (freon, etc) is pumped around a sealed circuit. At one point in this circuit it undergoes a state change (i.e. is compressed) and releases heat to the environment (via the radiator on the back of your fridge). At another point in the circuit it undergoes a different state change (i.e. pressure drop) and it's temperature drops as a result (taking in heat from the environment). Note that this is a working fluid we are talking about here.
2) Thermoelectic devices. These rely on devices with the property that when a voltage is applied to them a temperature gradient is created directly. Quite elegant, but not very efficient with currently available materials (although there have been recent developments in this area which may make them as efficient as compressor based systems in the medium term).
3) Polarpolymer based devices. In this case the working material is a solid with the property that when you apply a voltage it undergoes a state change causing its temperature to rise by 22degrees. The heat released would then have to be removed to the environment (for example by blowing air over it and venting this to the environment). When the voltage is subsequently removed, the material returns to its original state (22 degrees F colder). You would then need to circulate air from the inside of your refrigerator over this material. Some of the heat in the (inside) air would transfer to this material, warming it up. A drop of more than 22 deg could be created by daisy-chaining several devices together in series to create an arbitrarily large drop.
So a polarpolymer based refrigerator would probably require a quite different design to a traditional fridge because the working material is a solid rather than a fluid, and it does not directly create a temperature gradient across the material.
It probably wouldn't be suitable for small scale applications such as gloves, or for cooling clothing - unless your application just wants a one-time temperature rise/drop and the reverse step takes place away from the wearer of the clothing.
sounds like the Szilard/Einstein refrigerator of the 20s, which used a ferrous-based refrigerant moved with magnets.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
The units of dT are Fahrenheit/Celsius degrees, not degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius.
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When you're storing wine for a long time sediment settles out and a compressor will stir it up. Not good for the taste.
So now you have a material that can cool on command by an electrical signal. Nice.
So now you make it touch your fridge, and tell it to go to the "cool state". Next it absorbs heat (that leaked through the walls of the fridge), and you need to expell that heat. So now you turn it to the "warm" state, Now it's heating your fridge? No you need to make it insulated from the fridge, and thermally connected to the outside to pump the heat out. How are you going to do that?
The easiest way would be to have two of those electro-thermal-active-plastics built as a heat exchanger. One of them (the one in the "hot" state) circulates an appropriate fluid with the heat exchanger on the back. The other circulates the fluid with the heat exchanger inside the fridge.
So, how about we get rid of those nasty ozone-layer-affecting CFKs? Nice try, but no go! These ARE CFKs we're talking about. Maybe easier to contain than CFK gasses, but CFKs notheless.
Next, when your element is exchanging heat with the fridge, and it has come to an equilibirium.... Then you change it to the "warm" state. Now it becomes 12.5 degrees centigrade warmer! So my fridge is 4 degrees, and the element becomes 16.5 But in the summer my home is warmer than that (actually in the winter as well!). It has to become warmer than the environment to expell heat. So we're going to need a two-step heatpump.
So instead of a fridge with one pump, two heat exchangers, and a replacement for the CFKs for the old days, we might go to a frige with three pumps, two valves, and four CFK -containing active essential elements!
I predict that everyone will have one of these in their house in 5 years! Not!
This is way over the top. Even assuming this was the refidgeration assembly in your refridgerator and HVAC both, and it was made 100% of PVC, it would still have way less PVC than in other parts of your house. All the wiring in your house is PVC. It makes up the screen of your television. It makes up the casing of your laptop, your CD / DVD player, and pretty much every other piece of electronics in your house. All that vinyl siding on your house, PVC.
Sounds like you are living in a death trap! Get out while you can!
"These polarpolymers include poly(vinylidene fluoride-trifluoroethylene) and poly(vinylidene fluoride-trifluoroethylene)-chlorofluoroethylene, however there are other polarpolymers that exhibit the same effect."
It doesn't say what the "others" are, but perhaps there's something that can be used that would be more tolerant of high heat (or less toxic). Alternately, perhaps it could be used in a heatsink type scenario wherein the sink is cooled as it absorbs heat, but doesn't become superheated itself.
i worked on a project at nasa that used this technique to cool (and temperature-control) some delicate detectors to below what cryogenic gas/liquid could offer - by charging a superconducting magnet, bleeding off the heat, opening the "heat switch", then slowly discharging the magnet while in thermal contact with the instruments, we were able to maintain 65 millikelvin +/1 1 microkelvin for a couple hours, before repeating the charge/dissipate-heat/discharge cycle.
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I never could find the compressor in my gas refrigerator.
Was it stolen?
Zhang's approach uses the change form disorganized to organized that occurs in some polarpolymers when placed in an electric field
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There are a lot of issues that need to be known before this could be considered useful technology.
1. Price. Is the initial outlay too expensive?
2. Lifetime. Will it last as long as a current unit.
3. Efficiency. Does it require more or less power than current units.
4. Cooling. Can it freeze ice cubes in 80 degree weather?
5. Size. Will it fit into the same space?
All the article says it that it is quieter. People live with a noisy AC turned on for many hours a day, and a fridge is much quieter than that, so noise isn't that much of a factor.
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wasn't there a compressionless sound wave-based cooling developed a few years back?
It's called "thermoacoustics". It involves "motors" that turn temperature gradients into sound and "refrigerators" that use sound to pump heat across temperature gradients.
It's been around for perhaps a century, and is in its third generation of development. (It's a prime example of patents retarding technological development, as the current generation of development started after the patents on the second generation expired.)
This generation is on a solid theoretical footing, with mathematical models close enough to the real behavior to perform engineering and computer simulations that can run on your laptop. Lots of cute gadgets are coming out of it.
Example: A two-story hunk of plumbing with a gas burner. Haul it to an oil field in some out-of-the-way location where the gas is being flared off because it's too expensive to liquefy it for shipping. Hook the well gas to the input pipe, the output pipe to a storage tank, and light the burner. It sits there humming away internally, burning part of the gas and liquefying the rest.
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