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Olympic Opening Ceremony Fireworks Were (Partly) Faked

A complete newb writes "London's Telegraph newspaper reports that some of the fireworks which appeared over Beijing during the television broadcast of the Olympic Opening Ceremony were actually computer generated. But — hold on — it's not necessarily as bad as you think. The faked fireworks were actually set-off at the stadium, but because of potential dangers in filming the display live from a helicopter, viewers at home were shown a pre-recorded, computer-generated shot." To me, the reasoning behind the faked display is no consolation or excuse — it seems hard to swallow that NBC was unaware of this televised deception. I'm glad that it was good-naturedly "revealed" this weekend (according to that Telegraph article), but it's disheartening that such a large crowd can watch (in person, and around the world) such a display and have no reason to realize they've been duped. What about when weightier events are at issue? There's also a slightly more detailed story at sky.com.

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  1. Only a small part looked simulated by josecanuc · · Score: 4, Informative

    I watched the opening ceremony on NBC here in the U.S. There was a part of the ceremony called something like 'A walk through Beijing'. It showed a fly-through video of Beijing with "footsteps" made of fireworks popping up along the street/path. Those footstep fireworks looked pretty obviously computer-simulated. All other fireworks shown did not have that simulated appearance.

    It sounds to me like these footsteps part were all that was simulated.

    Does anyone know if the footage we saw on NBC (of the whole ceremony) was from an International common video feed or did NBC have their own cameras there? I ask because at large International events like this, there is often a common video feed and the commentators simple talk about what they see on their screen (which is the same thing we see, minus the fancy NBC info graphics and overlays.)

    (I wrote this looking at the subscriber early-post version. A link to a sky.com article was later added to the summary which answers my question.)

    1. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by AeroMed45N · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And, as I recall, the announcers talked about "computer generated" during that sequence. They were talking about the guy who orchestrated the whole opening ceremony, and his use of computers for this sequence. Admittedly, they did not clearly state "this is not really happening". Would have to go back and re-listen to that on the DVR to get exactly what was said.

    2. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An upside-down flag is a distress signal, not a sign of disrespect.

      Perfectly appropriate considering the kid's city was jut flattened don't you think?

    3. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by SydShamino · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The NBC announcer said something about " virtual flythrough" or somesuch as it was shown, which made my wife and I discuss why they were showing us simulated film. Those steps looked obviously faked up until the few near the stadium.

      I'd get the exact wording, but we've already deleted it from the DVR.

      I don't know why this is news. It was said on air and obvious at the time.

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    4. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by gnick · · Score: 5, Funny

      Libya's flag has been upside down every time I've ever seen it - They must be a very distraught country.

      Japan seems to be pretty panicky too...

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    5. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by deadmantyping · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, I too remember the commentators mentioning the fact that those footsteps were CGI. The last two stories about the Olympics broadcasts seem like they could have been avoided if people had only listened to the commentary on the broadcasts.

    6. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by T-Bone-T · · Score: 4, Informative

      It looked like legs to me, not hydraulics. Add to that the slightly inconsistent motion and it seems like you are just making things up.

    7. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by dtml-try+MyNick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Does it really matter if the fireworks were partially faked or not?

      The main goal of the ceremony is to entertain millions (perhaps billions?) of people and in my very humble opinion they succeded at that pretty damn well.
      Hell, the first 1.5 hrs of the opening was one of the most magnificent shows ever to put on the face of the earth.

      And correct me if I'm wrong, but they could have computer generated a lot more parts of the show and they didn't. The people in the boxes for instance?
      I don't really care what was real or not.. All I know is that I frequently had to pick up my jaw from the ground. And that was the ultimate goal. Period.

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    8. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by Talderas · · Score: 3, Informative

      While I hate to be a "me too", I distinctly remember hearing the announcer talk about how CGI was used during the opening ceremony, and it was discussed during the footsteps. I found it quite clear that the footsteps were "faked", but I think all the uproar over is a bunch of people who didn't pay attention to the announcers, or perhaps I was watching another station with the opening ceremony other than NBC.

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    9. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed. The NBC commentator specifically said, as the footage was being shown, that the event's producers were using a cinematic interlude to convey the concept of the fireworks. The actual firewoks WERE going off at the same time, and in much the same way... but there was simply no way to be sure they could show it well on TV - since it was impossible to predict the weather or other cirumstances. So, they showed a CGI illustration for the people watching TV. The weren't hiding anything, they came right out and SAID what they were doing.

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    10. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by telso · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not only that: I hear that when Poles get distressed, they go to Monaco. Must be the gambling, the cure for all distress (I hear James Bond is actually a Pole).

    11. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by Rokewaju · · Score: 5, Informative

      In reply to whether or not you the footage you saw was from a International Common Feed, the answer is: Yes

      NBC and the other rights holding broadcasters use the feed that is originated by the "Host Broadcaster" in this case Beijing Olympic Broadcasting. NBC and the other rights holding broadcasters can pay to have extra cameras in the stadium/venue. Those cameras are typically used for close ups of dignitaries and athletes from that Broadcaster's country in addition to "Beauty Shots" (scenic shots of landmarks or landscapes that are not covered by the International Feed). However that footage is generally less than 5% of the total footage, the rest of it comes from the International feed. The Host broadcaster will add their own commentary over top the International feed and in some cases their own graphics (or additional graphics specific to that network/broadcaster). The Host Broadcaster originates all the of the TV footage for the Games including the Opening and Closing Ceremonies.

      I worked on the crews of three Olympics (2002, 2004, 2006) with my spouse working for the Host Broadcaster for each of those games.

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    12. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by CthulhuDreamer · · Score: 5, Informative

      The hydraulic pistons were the actor's legs.

      http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5306/peoplebn2.gif

      At the end of the act the tops were removed so the actors could wave to the crowd (or else robotics were really, really advanced).

    13. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by PMuse · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The NBC commentator specifically said, as the footage was being shown, that the event's producers were using a cinematic interlude to convey the concept of the fireworks. The actual firewoks WERE going off at the same time, and in much the same way... but there was simply no way to be sure they could show it well on TV - since . . .

      the notional ground speed of the POV of that FX shot was faster than anything short of military jets.

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    14. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by daemonhunter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But eh, George W. is an idiot and messes up everything American anyway.

      Whom do we petition for "Line Item" Flamebait moderation? I was with you as "Informative," till this point.

    15. Re:Only a small part looked simulated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I could see the hydraulic pistons moving up and down. Especially near the end when the blocks were raised very high and you could see underneath them.

      I would ask, "Do they think we're that stupid", but alas, many folks are willing to ignore facts observed by their own eyes if a credible TV person states something different.

      Anyone who was paying attention during that part of the show could see that it was people inside the boxes. The only "obviously false" thing is the disinformation you're posting here. I just can't figure out what your purpose is in doing so.

  2. Why not ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... just switch to a live video feed from South Ossetia?

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  3. So what... by geeper · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...my wife fakes her fireworks all the time and it doesn't bother me.

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  4. sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hey captain obvious, I vividly remember the NBC announcer stating they were computer generated as it was happening.

    Off your high horse please.

    1. Re:sigh... by Kristoph · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More importantly, the summary makes it seem like some part of the fireworks were 'faked'.

      In fact, what we're talking about is the fireworks view from above. Rather than being a helicopter shot it was CGI matched to the fireworks.

      There were still actual fireworks in place, they just did the CGI to give viewers an idea of what the fireworks looked like from different angles.

      This is such a non story. The MSM is obviously playing it up because of insufficient olimpic drama but really, does Slashdot have to do the same?

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  5. Yeah, no kidding. by eli867 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unaware? obviously weren't listening during th broadcast. The NBC announcers were talking about how some of the effects were computer enhanced. They specifically said there were "digital pyrotechnics" used during the camera shot that zoomed across the city showing fireworks exploding all around.

  6. So what? by orzetto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it's disheartening that such a large crowd can watch (in person, and around the world) such a display and have no reason to realize they've been duped.

    What's the problem? You want a series of impressive images on your screen. What's the issue with having them in CGI instead of real-life fireworks? The end result is the same. I could get your argument if we were talking about some olympic discipline being duped, with doping, corruption or otherwise, but fireworks are just eye candy. How it gets to your retina is quite irrelevant.

    And by the way, doing it in CGI is also more environmentally friendly: compounds used in fireworks are not always of the most benign sort.

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    1. Re:So what? by bughunter · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I tend to agree with orzetto -- it was entertainment and art, from beginning to end. The slippery slope argument in this case is, I'm afraid, a fallacy.

      Now, if the faked images had been associated with real news -- war, human rights, natural disaster, etc. -- then there would be grounds for a scandal. But this? It was a spectacle even without the "digital pyrotechnics."

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    2. Re:So what? by wattrlz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, it's a slippery slope. First they're faking the fireworks, then they're faking the torch run, eventually the gold medal will go with whoever can render the fastest while the athletes relax back at the club.

      It seems to me the OP is mad because he feels lied to. He feels they didn't do enough to say that they were creating the spectacle artificially and thus perpetrated a fraud which sets an unpleasant precedent.

    3. Re:So what? by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not a just slippery slope argument. NBC News has violated an important rule for any news organization. It knowingly presented falsified images as true.

      True, the harm it does to viewers is trivial. The party that is harmed is NBC news. If NBC did not issue a disclaimer while showing the images in question, what it tells us is that NBC News is willing to mislead us if in their opinion the viewers are better off believing the falsehoods.

      So, if NBC doesn't subscribe to the theory that fictionalized representations of the facts ought to bear a disclaimer, then we must wonder exactly what they think the boundaries of their license to tinker with reality are.

      Naturally, I think this is just a stupid gaffe. But if I were in charge of this particular NBC operation, I'd be issuing an apology and promise not to do it again.

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    4. Re:So what? by Stephen+Ma · · Score: 3, Informative
      It knowingly presented falsified images as true.

      False. As others have pointed out here, the NBC announcer did say just before the "footsteps" video that it was computer enhanced.

  7. Slippery slope, fallacy or harbinger of doom? by biryokumaru · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news, last year's Super Bowl was actually two guys playing Madden '08.

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    1. Re:Slippery slope, fallacy or harbinger of doom? by CaptainPatent · · Score: 3, Funny

      In other news, last year's Super Bowl was actually two guys playing Madden '08.

      Yeah, sorry about the Patriots guys...

      My wife wouldn't stop nagging me to "stop playing that stupid game."

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  8. The Olympics are a SHOW by tjstork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok? The idea is for the entire world to be entertained at which should be a truce among the nations of the world bringing its best athletes to the tables. Putting on a good show for the olympics is part of the drill.

    I'm always looking for a good shot at China but I think this time around we should cut these people a break. They've done a good job with the Olympics so far.

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    1. Re:The Olympics are a SHOW by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, didn't work in Georgia, did it?

      Look, clearly the modern Olympics is just silly and pretentious. The idea that is some kind of movement that unites humanity in sport is so bizarre it defies belief anybody could seriously pretend it is true. If that's true, why do athletes march, like troops, behind their national flags? Why is the big triumph standing on the podium and having your national anthem played?

      The ancient Olympiad didn't have any of these kind of national (or city state) trappings. I'm sure that people had their home town favorites, but athletes traveled under the Olympic truce to compete at the games as individuals.

      I think it's great that people look at track and field, archery, judo and badminton etc. every four years. But the shear pretentiousness of the whole enterprise is galling. The drawn out fiasco of the Olympic torch relay was the wages of misty eyed attachment to an absurdity.

      It'd all be just as good, or better, without all the ridiculous hype. I think it's bad that it's a show, that it's become bread and circuses doused with saccharine political symbolism, like a political convention where red and white balloons dropping from the ceiling are supposed to mean something.

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  9. NBC Commentator *stated* part simulated by crepe-boy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slow day on Slashdot? I don't know where the conspiracy nuts get their information - were they actually watching the programme? The NBC commentator stated quite clearly that the 29 displays across Beijing that signified the 29 olympiads were simulated. They didn't got into detail about it but they certainly didn't hide it.

  10. NBC said it was a "cinematic animation" by Blackwulf · · Score: 5, Informative

    I watched the opening ceremonies twice and the commentators did state something to the effect of "They want this ceremony to be cinema in real time, but what you're watching right now is actually cinematic, it's all animation of these footsteps leading to the National Stadium." They did not outright say "hey this is prerendered CG" but they DID state that this was "true cinematics" and that it was animation.

    They were well aware of it and did a poor job of communicating it to viewers. I can tell how most people would have missed it.

  11. The 1992 torch lighting by flaming arrow was faked by kaptain80 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Back in 1992, the Olympic torch in Barcelona was supposed to be lit by an archer shooting a flaming arrow. Yeah... no. He shot it towards the cauldron, but it was set to be lit on its own via pyros. The flaming arrow passed way over the cauldron, safe from setting any of the audience on fire or perforating them, and the torch lit anyway.

    OR MAYBE IT WAS AN OLYMPIC MIRACLE AND HE HIT IT

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  12. It goes to credibility... by BobMcD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...and eventually, this kind of deficit spending will bankrupt the media.

    I do wonder why they keep pushing the edge of the envelope like this, though. The urge to alter reality doesn't really resonate with me. Just show it how it really happened. People are tuning in to experience a real event, not some imagined account of what the fireworks might have looked like.

    If things continue to trend this way, the media will eventually find it far easier to simply fabricate all the news. They'd never have to leave the studio, and could script out events over and over until they got just the right shot. I mean seriously, if they're not going to have 100% journalistic integrity, why have any at all?

  13. How about this by davmoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    To me, the reasoning behind the faked display is no consolation or excuse

    Then next time, Timothy, we'll let you fly the helicopter while fireworks are being shot at it.

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  14. Wait... by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wait. Are we seriously going to complain about this? If this doesn't count as much ado about nothing, I don't know what does. This isn't manipulation of the media - this is simply enhancing the televised broadcast of a ceremony for the opening of the Olympic games. Good gawd, get some perspective.

    1. Re:Wait... by D.McGuiggin · · Score: 3, Informative

      "A standard disclaimer of "this televised broadcast contains elements that are computer generated etc etc" would have been appropriate."

      THEY SAID IT WAS CG SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE BROADCAST.

      "I think it is good for some outrage here."

      Ok then, I'm outraged that so many of you are too stupid to educate yourself about a subject before shooting your mouths off.

  15. Footprints by jamie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DoD producing propaganda for foreign (wink) audiences. Good evidence just came out that the White House forged a war-justification document. Stovepiped intelligence. Hush money to truth-tellers. Known-false public WMD claims. "This isn't about intelligence, it's about regime change." "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out." Facts fixed around the policy. Leaks to "billboard" media to punish truth-tellers' families. Embedded reporters, sent home for publishing actual war photographs. Talking points piped from the White House to the top news corporations, often repeated as directives to the "journalists" who frame each day's news. Seven years of lapdog media pundits laughing along with the right-wingers who call for their assassination while they seriously discuss whether the 60% of Americans who still somehow hold political beliefs at odds with the ruling administration are traitors.

    But the fireworks show China is deceptive.

    1. Re:Footprints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      DoD producing propaganda for foreign (wink) audiences. Good evidence just came out that the White House forged a war-justification document. Stovepiped intelligence. Hush money to truth-tellers. Known-false public WMD claims. "This isn't about intelligence, it's about regime change." "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out." Facts fixed around the policy. Leaks to "billboard" media to punish truth-tellers' families. Embedded reporters, sent home for publishing actual war photographs. Talking points piped from the White House to the top news corporations, often repeated as directives to the "journalists" who frame each day's news. Seven years of lapdog media pundits laughing along with the right-wingers who call for their assassination while they seriously discuss whether the 60% of Americans who still somehow hold political beliefs at odds with the ruling administration are traitors.

      1964, Vietnam War: Gulf of Tonkin incident.

      1917, First World War: Zimmerman telegram.

      1898, Spanish-American War: "Remember the Maine, to hell with Spain!"

      1846, Mexican-American War: The Thornton Affair.

      1774: First Continental Congress: Persistent rumors in Philadephia that the British had burned Boston to the ground.

      Dude, entering a war under false or misleading pretenses is a proud and patriotic American tradition. Get a grip.

  16. They did tell you... by UDGags · · Score: 4, Informative

    The announcers for NBC said there were digital fireworks during the broadcast a couple times.

  17. Opening Ceremony On Steroids... by blcamp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...so friggin' what!

    Just as long as the ATHLETES are NOT on steroids, and the COMPETITION ITSELF is real... that's all I care about.

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  18. So that explains... by jhsiao · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the coziness between China and Iran. China shares advanced missile technology with Iran who reciprocates with advanced computer-generated rocket-launch capability.

  19. Fake? by FooBarWidget · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wah, wah, OMG OMG the fireworks are fake. Cry me a river.

  20. The definition of ironic by Lucas123 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ironic Pronunciation: \-rä-nik also i-rä-\ Function: adjective Date: 1576 1: relating to, containing, or constituting irony 2: given to irony 3: China, the inventor of fireworks, faking fireworks at the opening ceremony of the Olympics

  21. Bad Link by caffiend666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The link to the telegraph article is incorrect. Here's the real link

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  22. Not the first Olympic fake-out by sjonke · · Score: 3, Funny

    The first Olympic fake-out was back at Olympics 776 BC. In 720 BC it was discovered that olympian Ephorus Pausanias was actually wearing "artistically enhanced" tights.

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  23. It can be both.. kindof. by wizzahd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I definitely saw legs, but I also saw some sort of supports. I imagine that the blocks had some kind of contraption to make it easier for the people to lift them up and down with such fluidity. Not to mention that they would all have to be constrained to move up and down; I didn't see them wobble at all.

  24. If Leni Riefenstahl was filimg - by RevWaldo · · Score: 4, Informative

    When she was filming the 1936 Olympics (Olympia) she took aerial photographs by attaching cameras to balloons. The lesson for filmmakers today? If you can't risk flying people, use a drone. (Caveat: a number of the balloons crashed. But I like to think nowadays we could achieve better results.)

  25. Two sides of the same coin by joranbelar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hope all you "left-wing liberal freedom fighters" who are infuriated and want "something done" about this dastardly deception and corruption of our human rights recognize the similarities you share with those "right-wing religious zealots" who have the _exact_ same reaction to harmless nudity, language, or sexual situations on television.

    And, as it usually the case, the "facts" are completely wrong here as well: the CG simulation WAS disclosed and nobody was "duped". This is just more of the up-in-arms reactionary BS coming from people desperately in need of something to get worked up about.

    Maybe if the two sides would see how similar they really are, this kind of idiocy will stop.

    But thanks, Slashdot - this is like the third story today that was either deliberately misleading or completely fabricated. Seems like the only people getting "duped" are those who believe Slashdot story summaries.

  26. Re:If "it doesn't matter," why not disclose it? by onefriedrice · · Score: 3, Informative

    But... it was disclosed, quite obviously, by the NBC reporters and therein lies the rub. Much ado about nothing, in my opinion. This is the short and long of it.

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  27. What Lauer and Costas actually said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I went back and looked at what NBC showed on television in the United States of America.

    The following is exactly what the commentators, Today Show host Matt Lauer and NBC Sports broadcaster Bob Costas, said:

    Matt Lauer: You're looking at a cinematic device employed by Zhang Yimou here. This is actually almost animation. A footstep a second, 29 in all, to signify the 29 Olympiads.

    Bob Costas: We said earlier that aspects of this Opening Ceremony are almost like "cinema in real time", well this is quite literally cinematic.

    At the time, I fully understood that I was watching a movie. It's not "news" to me.

  28. Re:The 1992 torch lighting by flaming arrow was fa by kaptain80 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I shall summon the difference between revisions for the 1992 Summer Olympics article, which shows the text as it looked when I referenced it compared to the text as it was edited roughly an hour later.

    The citation for the Wikipedia article is (was) from the BBC: "Ceremonial hall of shame."

    Barcelona restored dignity four years later with an archer dramatically lighting the Olympic flame with a burning arrow flying through the night sky.

    Billions of people around the globe gasped in admiration as the archer bravely found his target with unerring accuracy.

    Or so it seemed.

    In reality, he had not actually landed the arrow in the middle of the cauldron - he had fired it way outside the stadium as instructed.

    Organisers dared not risk his aim failling short and landing into the grandstand and instead told him to fire it directly over the target area... some pyrotechnics-helpful camera angles would take care of the visual effect.

    There you have it.

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