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Bottom of The Barrel Book Reviews-Confessions of a Recovering Preppie

An anonymous reader writes "Michael de Mare's, Confessions of a Recovering Preppie, has been sitting on my desk a long time, for good reason. They say you can't always judge a book by it's cover but in this case, the unintentionally embarrassing front is perfect. Confessions is a painfully ordinary collection of college stories. Michael seems to have a different definition for the word preppie than the good people at Webster or I do. Even though the author specializes in cryptography, he seems unable to decipher any social situation, himself or the code to writing a book worth reading. Click below to see how confusing it gets. Confessions of a Recovering Preppie author Michael de Mare pages 304 publisher BookSurge Publishing rating 0/10 reviewer Samzenpus ISBN 1419663275 summary Stuff happens in college but not to the author Michael de Mare is to literature what Jeffery Dahmer is to fine dining. At least someone finally stopped Dahmer. To complain about any one part of this Titanic failure is like complaining that you don't like the tilt of your room, as the ship sinks beneath the waves. The back of the book promises, "In this compelling book, he lays bare the instructive stories of romantic adventures, intense studies, fascinating friend-ships, highly ambitious goals, and the wit and wisdom that can only come from the mind of those who are capable of fathoming the black arts of advanced cryptography and computer science." What we get is a book that has no theme to speak of. It reads like a logbook more than a novel. I have managed to group Confessions into three parts. Each part consists of the few common ideas that reappear many times in the book. It also includes the scant instances when Michael has an idea or something noteworthy happens.

The first part lets us in on a few basic facts about Michael and his day to day activities. He hates rap. Indian students cheat. Walking makes Michael's legs hurt. He is scared of his stoner suite mate. CS students are the smartest students on campus. Michael is the smartest among them. He likes Chicken Parmesan, Bill O'Reilly, and shopping at Walmart. In this section Michael becomes aware that his friend likes to drink at parties until he is drunk. He informs us that this is called binge drinking and worries that it might affect his friend's grades. (His friend's grades are slightly better than his in the end.) Then he discovers that college kids pirate music. One of my favorite parts of the book can be found here. Michael tells a story about his second cousin who tried to get him seriously hurt on two separate occasions. The first time, Michael was tricked into riding an unbroken horse. The second, was an incident which involved milking an extremely unfriendly cow. This story allows the reader to understand that the feelings of dread and the overwhelming desire to make Michael de Mare stop are a perfectly normal reaction. It is a feeling that is shared by his family and most likely, anyone who talks to him.

Just when you are wondering what purpose the 300 pages of Confessions serve, the author takes a trip to Montreal. When a customs official is making her way through the train, asking if anyone has anything to declare, we find out the FBI is following Michael. Two FBI agents tell the official loudly that they have guns and that they are following Michael because he works for the NSA. At no point prior was the NSA mentioned and it is never addressed again. I re-read this part several times to make sure that it wasn't a dream sequence or a jump to future events. At this point, I was sure that this book was the best way Michael had of telling his friends and family that he was or planned on being, a spy.

Part two follows a common pattern. Michael hates rap. Indian students cheat. Walking makes Michael's legs hurt. He is scared of his stoner suite mate. CS students are the smartest students on campus. Michael is the smartest among them. He likes Chicken Parmesan, Bill O'Reilly, and shopping at Walmart. He learns that men, in particular, college-aged men, are easily manipulated by pretty girls. He doesn't see his stoner suite mate for a couple days so he reports him missing. (The stoner was visiting home.) This section contains what is easily my favorite part of the book. It also demonstrates how hard it is to read Confessions. Here, Michael is talking to a girl he may have some interest in but is so uncomfortable around, that you're not quite sure.

"Hi Shawna! How are you doing?"
"My circumstances are not good."
"Your circumstances?"
"Yes. They are not good."
Now I was concerned about Shawna's circumstances. They were, as Shawna had pointed out, not good. I didn't know which circumstances she was referring to, but I was sure that they were circumstances that she considered important. For this reason I hoped Shawna's circumstances would improve."


Then it dawned on me. Michael de Mare specializes in cryptography. This whole thing is an elaborate code! The de Mare code! If I could crack this book I could find out where the descendants of Jesus live and who the Illuminati would allow to win the Super Bowl next year. Unfortunately the best anagram of Michael de Mare I could come up with was, A charm I'd eel me. So I tried writing down every other word, then every third. I cut the pages into strips and wrapped them around sticks of different widths. I made a baking soda solution and brushed it over the pages. Finally I exposed it to a UV lamp and then heat from a light bulb. Nothing I did seemed to reveal a new story that someone might want to read, so I continued with the last 100 pages.

The end of the book provides the usual. Mike hates rap music. Indian students cheat. Walking makes Michael's legs hurt. He is scared of his stoner suite mate. CS students are the smartest students on campus. Michael is the smartest among them. He likes Chicken Parmesan, Bill O'Reilly, and shopping at Walmart. Michael doesn't see his binge drinking friend for a few days and somehow resists the urge to report him missing to the police. He explains how the world would have broke out into World War III if George Bush hadn't been elected president. He defends his thesis, graduates and is accepted into a PHD program. The book then ends as quickly and as uninterestingly as it started. I entertained the notion that this was actually a Walmart viral marketing campaign for a few moments. "Walmart, we got everything Michael de Mare needs and most things that normal people need too." Probably not the message the suits in marketing would want to send. Now I'm convinced that Confessions of a Recovering Preppie is actually part of Michael's work at the NSA. This book is part of an "enhanced interrogation" program. Right now a man in a nicely pressed suit and sunglasses is reading Mr. de Mare's device of unusual punishment, for the second time, to a prisoner who begs to just be water-boarded like usual. Confessions of a Recovering Preppie is not the bottom of the barrel it is in a hole five feet below the barrel.

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  1. The joke's on you by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

    Hmmm...could it be another Atlanta Nights?

    The book seems to read like the mindless, self-indulgent chattiness usually only found in Ellen DeGeneres' comedy routines but the joke's on whoever buys the book!

    1. Re:The joke's on you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      More mindless self-indulgent chattiness at "He admire Camel"'s blog:

      http://www.michaeldemare.com/blog/

      This guy needs a rude awakening.

    2. Re:The joke's on you by easyTree · · Score: 1

      After I get home this afternoon, I need to do laundry. I am wearing my last clean penguin shirt. I guess that today is the day that I find out if I really want to be a professor.

      This has to be some kind of elaborate joke.

    3. Re:The joke's on you by Fizzl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh... Wow...
      Damn his writing style is boring. Seems like the most mediocre person ever. Well, I guess that means he excels in mediocrity :P

  2. End This. by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please. No more. These reviews are, truly, the bottom of the barrel.

    The editing is worse.

    -G

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    1. Re:End This. by gnick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was actually entertained... If you don't like time-wasters on Idle, how hard is it to avoid? You know, it actually wastes less of your time if you're able to refrain from clicking in, reading enough to assure yourself that you don't like it, and then posting to complain. Sure, it's a complete waste and a pointless review on a pointless book. But it's pretty easy to skip if you're not in the mood.

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    2. Re:End This. by basscomm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doing a funny review of a bad book is all well and good, but samzenpus's meandering trainwreck of a writing style, combined with his painfully unfunny commentary and his... creative use of punctuation means that he's really not the one to be doing them.

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    3. Re:End This. by MarkvW · · Score: 3, Funny

      The review was hilarious and well-written. Thanks.

    4. Re:End This. by ericrost · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, unfortunately, this is on Books, not Idle.

    5. Re:End This. by theIsovist · · Score: 2, Informative

      it's not the fact that we can avoid it, it just cheapens slashdot. Slashdot stopped the april fools jokes to appear to be a legitimate news organization, so why do we now have to suffer through Idle? At least april fools was once a year.

    6. Re:End This. by gnick · · Score: 5, Insightful

      D'oh!

      I assumed base on the fact that this was a complete waste of time that this was Idle, but didn't actually look.

      You are absolutely right. WTF is this doing anywhere but Idle!?!

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    7. Re:End This. by Tridus · · Score: 1

      Is that why there was no april fools stuff this year?

      Thats just sad. Stuff like omgponies is what gave Slashdot some of its charm.

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    8. Re:End This. by theIsovist · · Score: 1

      agreed. but again, it was a once a year thing, which kept the joke from getting old.

    9. Re:End This. by thedonger · · Score: 1

      If you are referring to the repetition of "he hates rap...," I think that was on purpose to show how bad the book really is.

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    10. Re:End This. by Born2bwire · · Score: 1

      Should Slashdot only give reviews of books they liked? I think it is useful to be given recommendations of books that I should read and should avoid.

    11. Re:End This. by Amouth · · Score: 1

      although if i remember this year they saved up the articals that on any other day you would have asked "is this for real?" and posted them on April 1st.. so everyone was trying to figure out if they where real or jokes because they could go both ways..

      i thought it made the comments qutie funny and enjoyable to read through.. and on a plus site it didn't burn my eyes to look at it like 2007's did

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    12. Re:End This. by tist · · Score: 1

      For heaven's sake, this isn't F----d Company .com. This business of publishing stupid emails or hacking on lousy books does not belong on Slashdot - News for Nerds, Stuff that matters.

    13. Re:End This. by qualidafial · · Score: 1

      Slashdot Idle is shaping up to be the new Mandatory Fun Day.

    14. Re:End This. by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      For one, this was clearly intended to be an idle article, but it ended up in the honest-to-goodness book reviews section.

      Secondly, the subject matter of the book doesn't even pertain to what Slashdot (at least ostensibly) is about. Remember that little tagline? News for nerds? How does this book even remotely fit into that category? Yes, they should review good and bad books. But those books should all be relevant.

      Thirdly, book reviews should go through the normal editing process. Regardless of the skill of Slashdot editors (let's not have that discussion now) they do catch a fair number of errors and mistakes. However, these Idle reviews do not go through that process, it would appear. Just because it was written by an editor does not mean it doesn't need to be reviewed by an editor.

      So, in short form:

      • Idle articles in regular-article space
      • Review concerns irrelevant content
      • Little or no regard for the normal editing process

      -G

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    15. Re:End This. by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Please note: this "review" was posted under book reviews, not under Idle. Which makes it worse, I'd say.

      -G

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    16. Re:End This. by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, except that at least this time, it wasn't white-on-teal, so I guess that's technically an improvement.

      -G

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    17. Re:End This. by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashdot stopped the april fools jokes to appear to be a legitimate news organization [ ... ]

      It did ? I thought they were now just scattered all through the year, one every couple day, to be less obvious.

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    18. Re:End This. by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      You really need to stop hitting that Submit button. And switch to decaf...

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  3. Stuff that matters? by oneiros27 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm all for occasional humor (hell, I used to be an admin on Fark) -- but I'm thinking that if Slashdot is going to be running as much crap as they have with 'idle', crappy book reviews, and criticizing their reader e-mail, that they need to drop the "Stuff that Matters" tag line.

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    1. Re:Stuff that matters? by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Stuff that matters? by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 1

      *sheds tear*

      If only the scoring went above 5.

    3. Re:Stuff that matters? by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 1

      Or just change it to the more accurate "Stuff that's free." The overall quality of the content is in decline, but occasionally there's still some good stuff.

      The code is free. So anyone who thinks they can do a better job (or perhaps just a different job) of sifting the crap from the pile can, in theory, roll their own.

    4. Re:Stuff that matters? by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      "News for 'noids, staff that mutters"

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    5. Re:Stuff that matters? by denmarkw00t · · Score: 1

      Again, as pointed out above, this somehow made it to Books. But, if you're tired of Idle, I'm sure there is a way to stop those stories from crossing your /., no? There are plenty of headlines with substance - stuff that matters - and to some poor soul who really, really couldn't find anything to read, maybe this book matters.

      oh, this just in, I meant to say that "this book is made of [anti?]matter." my bad. I can't actually imagine any sort of target audience for this book, aside from maybe college freshmen whose parents are looking for a quick-fix scare tactic. Glad we avoided WWIII whew!

    6. Re:Stuff that matters? by 0racle · · Score: 1

      Given that you couldn't tell the difference between an Idle article and a book review (I know that the green background is subtle) exactly how many dupe postings on Fark were you responsible for?

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  4. Amazon 5 Stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    At the time of writing, this book has a 5 star rating at Amazon.com

    http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Recovering-Preppie-Michael-Mare/dp/1419663275

    1. Re:Amazon 5 Stars by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At the time of writing, this book has a 5 star rating at Amazon.com

      All but one of the reviews are by one-off reviewers.

      I'm no crypto-genius, so I could be way off, but it smells like just the kind of cack-handed astroturfing our hero might try.

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    2. Re:Amazon 5 Stars by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Look, he needs to keep up the cheating Indians. It's not his fault.

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    3. Re:Amazon 5 Stars by wolf12886 · · Score: 1

      That's what I thought, until I realized that in making such a claim we'd have to assume that he has the writing ability to pull it off, which seams unlikely, based on the summary.

    4. Re:Amazon 5 Stars by MidoriKid · · Score: 1

      The number two "key phrase" listed by Amazon for this book is "chicken parm"

  5. Is it really that surprising? by cwAllenPoole · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless someone has a VERY good ghost writer or something extraordinary happened to that individual, a biography is necessarily going to be terrible. Why? Because the average life is rather boring (which is why "Reality Television" is generally very highly edited).

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    1. Re:Is it really that surprising? by electricbern · · Score: 1

      Chapter 5: The day I had diarrhea

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    2. Re:Is it really that surprising? by cwAllenPoole · · Score: 1

      uuuhhhhgggg.....

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    3. Re:Is it really that surprising? by hurfy · · Score: 1

      lol, and even then reality TV needs 6 people or more, plus artificial events, plus a bunch of time to produce 1 hour of entertainment.

      The first couple pages did sound like an 8th grade what-I-did report at best all right.

    4. Re:Is it really that surprising? by cwAllenPoole · · Score: 1

      In high school they made us read a book called "Be True to Your School". It was a journal that some famous reporter wrote (or something like that. I didn't care then, and I care less now). It is the single most boring book I've ever experienced. And I enjoy reading technical manuals and in-depth analysis of ancient mythology and its implications to modern language... Nothing happens in it. It is ordinary and so, uninteresting. There is no suspense, no drama, just some high-school bore who happens to do something later which is notable enough to get the book sold. At least when I read about the ancient world I can expect to find a war break out...

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    5. Re:Is it really that surprising? by optikSmoke · · Score: 1

      Sorry.

      Was that chapter 5, or your reaction to chapter 5?

      Please advise.

    6. Re:Is it really that surprising? by j-pimp · · Score: 1

      lol, and even then reality TV needs 6 people or more, plus artificial events, plus a bunch of time to produce 1 hour of entertainment.

      The first couple pages did sound like an 8th grade what-I-did report at best all right.

      In other words all the cheap union labor (relatively,) and none of the primma donna actors?

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    7. Re:Is it really that surprising? by neonsignal · · Score: 1

      Maybe people don't want to read the unedited autobiographies of boring fascists. After all, there are plenty of interesting fascists out there.

  6. Correction by Quasar1999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Indian students cheat?

    ALL students cheat! Perhaps he meant that Indian students that cheat are caught more frequently?

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    1. Re:Correction by nomadic · · Score: 1

      ALL students cheat!

      I never cheated in college. Not that I'm especially noble, but I figured while my self-respect may have a price, it certainly wouldn't be a letter on a report card that in the grand scheme of my life wouldn't be especially important.

    2. Re:Correction by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      OTOH, there are some cultures where cheating is institutionalized.

      Dunno if Indians fall into this category but other countries do.

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    3. Re:Correction by bigredradio · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Most likely the Indian students have better study habits. Based on the review, the author probably assumes that they MUST cheat because they get better grades. This is speculation since I have not read the book, but I have heard that rhetoric before.

    4. Re:Correction by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Funny

      Examples please. I already have a very good idea but I'd like to have a second opinion. Post as AC because you don't want those cheating bastards who cheated to earn mod points to use said mod points against you.

    5. Re:Correction by fmobus · · Score: 1

      I can understand cheating in elementary and high school, but cheating in college/university, where exams are supposedly on stuff you like and have willfully chosen as career does not make sense.

    6. Re:Correction by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      I didn't cheat either, but the GP's comment would be correct if he had said "all cultures have members who cheat".

      It's scary thinking that my surgeon might have cheated his way through college.

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    7. Re:Correction by lastchance_000 · · Score: 1

      Not every course in university applies directly to your career. Some are just for background/general knowledge. Some people just want the paper at the end. I personally think it's self-defeating, but I can understand that there are people who would do it.

    8. Re:Correction by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      I don't cheat. Why would I cheat?

    9. Re:Correction by aevan · · Score: 1

      At mine, they (the Chinese students) didn't cheat so much as play the 'language card'. When the going got hard, they 'lost' grasp of English and sometimes managed extensions. Not all did this, but a good percentage would. Also only the foreign ones, not the second-gens.

      The real cheating was pretty much evenly distributed amongst all races/cultures, and seemed more dependent on the prof (the worse the course and/or lax the supervision the more there was), and in one instance 'group' (ironically the Justice students cheated insanely in tech courses, enough that an entire class got tossed when caught).

    10. Re:Correction by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      I never cheated in college.

      In some places, gaining knowledge from any sources other than the textbook and/or the instructor is considered cheating, including and especially talking to your fellow students about the coursework. Even reading ahead in the textbook can be considered cheating.

      And don't get me started on the prohibitions on reading the instructor's mind! Two of my classmates were accused of witchcraft and were drowned in the school swimming pool for not admitting it. A third was burned at the stake at Homecoming for admitting it. (Or was it for failing to drown? I forget.)

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    11. Re:Correction by optikSmoke · · Score: 1

      I never cheated in college.

      Are you Indian?

      QED

    12. Re:Correction by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Its only scary if not cheating would have improved his surgical skills. You are assuming facts not in evidence.

    13. Re:Correction by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 1

      ALL students cheat!

      No. Not all students cheat. Those who do certainly like to tell themselves that, though.

    14. Re:Correction by burroughsj1 · · Score: 1

      Its only scary if not cheating would have improved his surgical skills

      Or if not cheating would have revealed his poor surgical skills and thus prevented a career in medicine. The fear results, quite naturally, from a lack of any level of certainty that the surgeon is competent.

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    15. Re:Correction by scyllacat · · Score: 1

      This is not relevant: The only time anyone ever, that I know of, cheated off me, it was an Indian student. I felt sorry for her, because I WAS the smartest kid in my school, and they knew right away she cheated, because we both got a perfect score on the one section of the test. It was a sad day.

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    16. Re:Correction by bigredradio · · Score: 1

      LOL, that was damn funny.

  7. Good use for a rambling piece of crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Start a religion based on it. It worked for L Ron Hu88ard.

  8. Anagram by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 2, Funny

    He admire Camel? Mice heed alarm? Am media lecher?

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    1. Re:Anagram by Intron · · Score: 1

      each lime dream

      maybe we want one in French, tho:

      michael a merde

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  9. Please stop by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please stop putting links to "idle" on the front page.

    1. Re:Please stop by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Informative

      This isn't even Idle, though, this is just a plain Books post. The author can write a snarky review of some awful book he received if he wants, but who the hell decided that Slashdot's readership was interested?

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    2. Re:Please stop by philspear · · Score: 2, Funny

      I come to read about interesting stuff, not technology. Yes, that's right, we have taken over your nerd board. Slashdot will now be about bad books!

    3. Re:Please stop by MooseMuffin · · Score: 1

      More importantly, categorize the posts correctly. I have my homepage set to never display idle content but this slips in anyway under the guise of a book review.

  10. Book Surge by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 5, Informative

    The publisher, Book Surge, is Amazon's self-publishing/publish on demand branch. Likely, no one other than the author ever read this book prior to printing and it's likely that /.'s review copy was author-provided as well.

    1. Re:Book Surge by Otter · · Score: 1, Insightful

      This "review" seems like another outlet for the "Let's make fun of the mentally ill!" comedy of the "reader mail" posts...

  11. Re:Review? by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 3, Funny

    Scathing words. Why is the reviewer anonymous?

    The reviewer is Samzenpus.

    Why are you anonymous, your words are utterly inconsequential?

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  12. woo by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

    The first part lets us in on a few basic facts about Michael and his day to day activities. He hates rap. Indian students cheat. Walking makes Michael's legs hurt. He is scared of his stoner suite mate. CS students are the smartest students on campus. Michael is the smartest among them.

    Get this man a slashdot id!

    1. Re:woo by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

      He has one. It's got only 3 digits.

  13. Why is there a review of a vanity press title? by sirwired · · Score: 4, Insightful

    BookSurge is an Amazon-owned vanity press. Since when does anybody, including Slashdot, waste time reviewing self-published books? Even in the "Idle" section this is stupid.

    Maybe this is a thinly veiled review by the author to get a few people to buy this thing to experience its awfulness.

    SirWired

    1. Re:Why is there a review of a vanity press title? by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

      It's not unprecedented. But Commodork was actually good.

  14. Well, I like the review. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    /. gets books to review and some of them are awful. Nothing wrong with putting that on the front page. So please stop can people stop whinging about idle on the front page.

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    1. Re:Well, I like the review. by codemaster2b · · Score: 1

      Hm... whining about whining... this could get recursive...

      I do agree with you. I liked the review.

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    2. Re:Well, I like the review. by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

      Might I offer a counter argument? The reason that I get annoyed with this idle stuff is that it truly is worthless to me. With every article, there's some knowledge that can be gleaned from it. I don't like apple, but I read apple stories because they're trend-setters in the market, and it's worthwhile to know what they're doing. I'm not a hardware man, but it's interesting to read about the different video cards coming out. I like book reviews because I learn about what books and authors are worth reading.

      Idle brings me none of this. I would never have bought this mans book, and mocking it on the front page wastes space and time that I would rather devote to something else. Not only that, but putting it under book reviews instead of idle means that I can't filter these lame reviews out. Whether slashdot does them or not is their decision, but they should know that they're negatively impacting my use of the site, and judging by the comments, a lot of people feel this way. Slashdot hits a niche where they get serious people who are highly skilled talking about technical things; where in that niche does humor fall?

    3. Re:Well, I like the review. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You may offer me a counter argument. Allow me to couynter with a counter counter argument...

      If you don't like the idle stuff, then why did you enter this thread?

      Back more to your point, not all the slashdot articles are useful. Quite a lot are very speculative, and the ones on basic science, while very entertaining, are not really useful to me, beyond entertainment. Oh, and the threads are often a complete waste of time (Someone in ther internet is wrong!--Randall Munroe), but an entertaining waste of time, so I still post.

      To conclude that somewhat rambling point, I assert that the main purpose of slashdot is entertainment. So the question becomes, is idle entertaining?

      Personally, I find that the hit rate for idle is about as high as any of the other sections.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    4. Re:Well, I like the review. by ericrost · · Score: 1

      This article (and thread) is in the Books section, not the Idle section, so the points are even more valid.

    5. Re:Well, I like the review. by pz · · Score: 1

      /. gets books to review and some of them are awful. Nothing wrong with putting that on the front page. So please stop can people stop whinging about idle on the front page.

      No. Wrong. There are a gazillion and a half books published every year. You want a bad one? Go and buy almost any arbitrary selection since, like almost everything else, 90% of them are crap.

      A book / movie / game / etc. reviewer's job is to (a) weed out the awful stuff and tell you about the gems, and (b) tell you when something you would expect to be good is not.

      This review (by an AC, no less) is of self-published drivel. If it were Linus's self-published drivel, it would make it newsworthy, but it isn't. It's by and about someone who went to second-rate universities with commensurate experiences. Someone that before reading this review, I'd never heard of, at all. If it were self-published drivel by Rivest, Shamir or Adelman (to pick examples closer to home for Mr. de Mare), good or bad, the review would be newsworthy. Similarly, we hear about Neal Stephenson's every publication, good or bad, because there is an expectation that they might well be enjoyable, and that Slashdot readers might well purchase copies.

      This is not such stuff. This is not material suitable for front page promotion. This is part of the 90% that should not be reviewed, not be reported, and allowed to die a quiet death in obscurity.

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      Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
  15. Re:Really that bad? by sammyF70 · · Score: 2, Informative

    even more strangely, three of the four reviewers never reviewed anything but this book, and the fourth had only three reviews, one of which was about shoes. Oh .. and it was writen by an someone with an indian name ... cheat?!

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    "DRM is like the Ford Pinto: it's a smooth ride, right up the point at which it explodes and ruins your day."-C.Doctorow
  16. That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    screwed up the definition of preppie.

    Michael seems to have a different definition for the word preppie than the good people at Webster or I do.

    You and me both. When I went to high school (early 80s), preppies were the kids who were taking college prep classes - hence "preppie". They were the ones who studied, dressed neatly, participated in sports, band, chorus, etc... and generally got good grades. They were usually from middle class families whose parents understood the value of an education. Everyone in that group wanted to be: doctors, lawyers, engineers, computer specialists, or any other white collar professional career you can think of. Preppies were usually decent kids. Yeah, there were some rich kids who had the nice cars and coasted through life, but they were the rich kids and weren't part of the preppie crowd. They were the ones who got in Ivy League schools because they were legacies or what ever.

    It was NOT someone who tried to get away with conning other kids and teachers, doing little work, and just coasting through life.

    1. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by Otter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When I went to high school (early 80s), preppies were the kids who were taking college prep classes - hence "preppie"...Yeah, there were some rich kids who had the nice cars and coasted through life, but they were the rich kids and weren't part of the preppie crowd. They were the ones who got in Ivy League schools because they were legacies or what ever.

      "Preppie" comes from "prep school", not "college prep classes" and the usage in your high school had nothing to do with the usual meaning of the term. Your community was probably so unfamiliar with real preppies that the word was repurposed for someone completely different.

    2. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by RingDev · · Score: 1

      In my high school, Preppies were usually middle to upper class family kids who's parents had gone to college and were expecting to get accepted to a college based on little more than their average grades, extra circular activities, and mediocrim of motivation. They were white, their parents had money, and they felt they were entitled to a college education. Not to say that they were hateful racists, but they had the expectations that white kids with >C averages all got to go to college. That feeling of entitlement definitely made for some tension between them and the less financially well off students, those who's parents had not graduated from college, and those of us who were heading for the military.

      The students you described, we had as well, but they were usually labeled as geeks and brainy kids. Socially, they didn't have the tension with the preppies that others did, but they weren't exactly invited out for reindeer games.

      There were exceptions to all social classes in high school, heck there were even a couple of jocks who were actually good guys. But by and large, the preppies of my experience were the ones most likely to consider themselves 'above' the others as part of their entitled position in society.

      -Rick

      --
      "Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
    3. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      "It was NOT someone who tried to get away with conning other kids and teachers, doing little work, and just coasting through life."

      That sounds a lot like the college I want to (err...to which I went).

    4. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      Said the slashdot troll, ironically.

    5. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

      My town is listed in the Preppie Handbook, so I speak with some authority in agreeing you are correct.

      George W. Bush is a preppie. Barack Obama is also a preppie.

      It's that simple.

    6. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      How articulate. You must be a very intelligent individual, with many important things to spend his time on.

      A quick note on style: "said the faggot who is a loser who spends his time ..." is an awkward sentence. Next time, try "said the faggot loser who spends his time ..." -- your writing will flow much better from the reader's perspective when you don't unnecessarily repeat your verbs.

    7. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by cyberwave · · Score: 1

      It was a stylistic choice; in a way, by being a tad tedious (alliteration, bitch), I not only mock your own tediousness, but I also allow "faggot" and "loser" to really sink in. "Faggot loser" goes by too quickly. You are not only a faggot but also a loser. Seriously though, I nailed you with the burn--you know that you are out of shape and never get laid. Why don't you respond to those accusations than criticize my writing.

    8. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      Why don't you respond to those accusations than criticize my writing.

      Because they are childish insults from an anonymous internet person. Why would I waste time disproving baseless accusations, when they already make you look stupid on their own? That would be playing right into your immature little game.

      More editing: "Why don't you respond to those accusations than criticize my writing" isn't just stylistically bad, it's grammatically incorrect. What you wanted to say was either, "Why don't you respond to those accusations instead of criticizing my writing?" or "Why don't you respond to those accusations, then criticize my writing?"

      Your writing is literally so bad that I can't tell what sentence you were even aiming for.

    9. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by scyllacat · · Score: 1

      Looks about the same from either side to me: I'd guess that since preparatory schools and college preparatory classes have the same sorts of goals, the "preppie" look was the middle class aspiring to the "prep school" status. Some schools had "preppies" in my town, but my school was redneck. My mom wanted me to be a preppie, but at my school, I was the nerd.

      --
      "If you weren't mad, you wouldn't have come here." --The Cheshire Cat
    10. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by cyberwave · · Score: 1

      "rather than" is what I meant to say. anyway, I'm pretty sure I rest my case that you are a faggot whose life is literally so bad that you never get laid.

    11. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      Typically speaking, one usually presents evidence to support their case before resting it.

    12. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by cyberwave · · Score: 1

      My evidence was that you're still talking to me on this thread. You are a dip-shit for not seeing that.

    13. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      You are a dip-shit for not realizing that your evidence makes no sense. You're also a dip-shit for not realizing that I was pointing that out in my previous post.

      This is why we can't have nice things.

    14. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by cyberwave · · Score: 1

      said the faggot who is a loser who spends his time reprimanding slashdot trolls, and is therefore even more pathetic than the troll, who is doing this for temporary fun, and will be long gone when justinlee37 is still on slashdot, still out of shape and not getting laid ever..

    15. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      The thing that surprises me is that you don't realize just how childish you really are.

    16. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by cyberwave · · Score: 1

      The thing that surprises me is that you don't realize just how niggardly you really are.

    17. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      I think you realize that you don't even make sense, you just strive to get a rise out of people by repeating silly things.

    18. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by cyberwave · · Score: 1

      Your post contains a blatant comma-splice. Wow, you really ARE fucking retarded. lol.

    19. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      At the end of the day, you're still just an angry anonymous asshole with nothing important to do.

    20. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by cyberwave · · Score: 1

      At the end of the day, you are out of shape and never get laid, and apparently have even less to do than I.

    21. Re:That "Saved by the Bell" show ... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      You really are stupid. Why don't you stick with insults that you can actually back up with some evidence, instead of just shooting wildly in the dark and hitting nothing?

      Better yet, why don't you just stop trolling? Oh right, you're like 12.

  17. Is it just me? by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or has it seemed lately that everytime I've thought, "damn, slashdot is going down the shitter", I look up at who approved the story, and it's been the name samzenpus, nearly every single time?

    Given that knowledge, I think it's obvious what should be done.

    1. Re:Is it just me? by loftwyr · · Score: 1

      You should go to your preferences and deselect samzenpus from your list of editors?

    2. Re:Is it just me? by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 1

      Exactly!

  18. Purpose of these book reviews? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    Reviewing a popular book and commenting in this way would be useful and funny to all of us, since popular books and authors already get a lot of positive press, and the negative comments can be viewed as a roast in most cases.

    However, in the case of a truly bad book, these effects of a bad review are reversed. For example, if the purpose of this review was to get people to laugh at a bad author, it's unfortunate that the humor has to come at his expense because the book apparently truly is bad. There are bad books and authors, and producing negative comments about a bad book seems to me like writing a dissertation on how annoying it is that annoying people are in fact, really annoying.

    Additionally, if the purpose of this review was to get people to not read the book, again I believe this review probably got this guy more press in one day than he ever would have received in his lifetime. Now he will likely sell many copies of the book he never would have sold, so there again I'm not sure about the purpose of the review.

    The moral: This comment is or isn't funny to the /. audience for the same reason that the review is or isn't funny to the /. audience.

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    1. Re:Purpose of these book reviews? by loftwyr · · Score: 1

      go to this books Amazon page and read the sample provided. It is written slightly below the 8th grade "what I did for my summer vacation" level.

      I think buying a copy is the least you could do for someone suffering from that level of illiteracy.

  19. Please NO MORE by owlnation · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Listen Editors, listen Taco, please listen hard...

    I KNOW what the url to DIGG is. If I wanted braindead lolcat crap I'd go there.

    You are seriously destroying the integrity of Slashdot with Idle, the reader's mail garbage, and now this book review drivel.

    Is it driving up your hits? Perhaps it is, perhaps it is also making you more money. Are you so greedy that you are willing to cheapen yourselves in this way? Why not just get into the spam industry if that's the case?

    There is no value in this. It detracts from otherwise good content. You can see perfectly well that there are already many complaining. Do you not care about this site any more?

    Enough is enough

    1. Re:Please NO MORE by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 1

      welcome to the internet, if you don't like it skip it!

    2. Re:Please NO MORE by owlnation · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's ridiculous and patronizing. It's also symptomatic of the reason why the Internet is the way it is -- people like you just shrugging their shoulders and not trying to make things better. So fine, live smeared in crap if you wish. I don't want to.

      Slashdot used to be a relatively safe haven from the mass stupidity of the Internet. But recently that has changed -- that's the point. Something, presumably greed and retarded marketing droids (same thing really) has caused this change on Slashdot.

      Now we have the Idiocracy of Idle, dear Taco, and reviews that are just juvenile ways of insulting people. It doesn't need to be this way. The whole world is dumbing down, but it's reasonable to expect Slashdot to have standards -- based on 10 years of seemingly having them.

    3. Re:Please NO MORE by hairykrishna · · Score: 1

      To me the 'readers mail' has been the worst addition. Slashdot attracts intelligent people; story comments are worth reading because people who know what they're talking about pass on information. Drive away these people and this place will go down the tubes.

      --
      "Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation." -R. Feynman
    4. Re:Please NO MORE by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 1

      welcome to the internet, if you don't like it skip it!

      No. There comes a point when it takes so much time to skip the crap that anything of value that you manage to find just isn't worth it.

      When articles are properly categorized so that the fluff is denoted as fluff, and I can choose to never view the "fluff" section, it's not so bad. When the fluff is displayed as genuine content, it dilutes the site.

      Picture a grocery store with every aisle half-filled with candy corn, despite the aisle's label. Sure, you don't have to get the candy corn, but it makes finding the real food harder.

  20. Get Harlan Ellison to do a review, then. by argent · · Score: 1

    /. gets books to review and some of them are awful.

    So does every newspaper, magazine, blog, and publisher.

    I can count the number of times I've seen any of the above publish a review of a book from their slushpile on the fingers of one hand.

    I can count the number of times I've seen any of the above do it twice on the fingers of one foot.

    I can vaguely recall seeing one that was worth reading, once, but it was probably by someone like Harlan Ellison.

    Tell you what, get someone at Ellison's level to do the next review like this. Or... don't do it.

    1. Re:Get Harlan Ellison to do a review, then. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, slashdot is more informal than most newspapers. Also, you could simply not read the reviews. That would work too. But, I think a better point is that in some way, they are entertaining you, because here you are, debating with me the marits (or not) of having these reviews. Is that entertainment? If not, why are you here?

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    2. Re:Get Harlan Ellison to do a review, then. by argent · · Score: 1

      Well, slashdot is more informal than most newspapers.

      What part of "or blog" is hard to understand.

      Also, you could simply not read the reviews.

      If I can't depend on slashdot actually restricting the front page to stuff that at least *someone* thinks "matters" (it's clear that not even the reviewer did) then it's less useful.

      I think a better point is that in some way, they are entertaining you

      In your dreams. I'm here because I had hoped that after a few cycles of this crap they'd quit posting it, but it's obvious that I gave Taco too much credit and ignoring it won't make it go away.

    3. Re:Get Harlan Ellison to do a review, then. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I can't depend on slashdot actually restricting the front page to stuff that at least *someone* thinks "matters" (it's clear that not even the reviewer did) then it's less useful.

      Does it matter how old the miniture lego man is? Or what the latest apple rumour (to the nth degree) is? Or that article about 1Pb databases which kind of falls in to the "duh" category if you've been following Moore's law for any time at all.

      In your dreams. I'm here because I had hoped that after a few cycles of this crap they'd quit posting it, but it's obvious that I gave Taco too much credit and ignoring it won't make it go away.

      Honestly, I don't dream about whether or not you are entertained. But you are still here posting (and quite annoyed by me if your tone is anything to go by). A post like your last reply will go nowhere towards making Taco stop posting these things, since it's such a deeply nested reply. So, you muse be getting some entertainment since you took the effort to make that post.

      Or you're doing something you don't enjoy for reasons you don't fully understand. But here's the rub, now you either have to let my claim stand, or post a reply.

      Now *that's* entertainment!

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
  21. How to get rid of Idle by sjonke · · Score: 1

    I had to undo the change so I could post this message here, but for those complaining, it's easy enough to get rid of idle: Click "Customize" in the top bar. Then click "Sections". Then for "Idle" choose the circle-slash option. Click "Save" at the bottom. *Poof* - no more (atrocious) "Idle".

    Think of "Idle" as a "Roach Motel". Do you really want these "Idle" writers involved in the main articles? Better that they are stuck here. Now I'm going back to that setting....

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    --- What?
    1. Re:How to get rid of Idle by Moebius+Loop · · Score: 1

      I had to undo the change so I could post this message here, but for those complaining, it's easy enough to get rid of idle: Click "Customize" in the top bar. Then click "Sections". Then for "Idle" choose the circle-slash option. Click "Save" at the bottom. *Poof* - no more (atrocious) "Idle".

      Think of "Idle" as a "Roach Motel". Do you really want these "Idle" writers involved in the main articles? Better that they are stuck here. Now I'm going back to that setting....

      You sure about that? This is in books, not idle. That's the problem.

      OTOH, as others have mentioned, it seems the biggest problem is samzenpus. I believe there's an option to filter all his stuff, though...

      -phil

      --
      have you been seen on slash?
    2. Re:How to get rid of Idle by sjonke · · Score: 1

      Oops. Well, it certainly should have been in Idle!

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      --- What?
  22. Bottom of the barrel posts fit the name. by someguy · · Score: 1

    Is Slashdot trying to get more of the Something Awful audience?

    If the books are so awful, just toss them. Don't subject us to these crap reviews. It's almost as bad as having Jon Katz back..

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    A planet where apes evolved from men? Long live the apes.
  23. CS students by philspear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Soon to get modded down as offtopic or troll, but why exactly is it that CS students think they're the smartest? What is it about knowing how to use a computer that makes for elitism? It's not like many CS students go on to cancer research with their computer skills. A few yes, but most of those were double majors in biology or were biology students taking a few computer classes.

    1. Re:CS students by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 1

      CS has very little to do with knowing how to use a computer. CS is a major in math/logic, where you learn to create and analyze efficient algorithms. Often, the college also teaches programming, just as Chemistry majors are taught how to effectively use a Bunson burner.

      As for why we think we're the smartest, I can't quite say, as I would lose this air of superiority around me.

    2. Re:CS students by philspear · · Score: 1

      I think there are problems with the analogy of computers are to math and logic as a bunsen burner is to chemistry skills (don't let your pharmacist hear that, for one thing) but I get what you're saying.

      Still, it's hard for me to belive that CS has little do do with computers. Does CS not stand for COMPUTER science?

    3. Re:CS students by neuromanc3r · · Score: 1

      1) My experience is that most students tend to think of themselves as the smartest ones. That includes artsy types as much as CS and maths students

      2) CS is not about knowing how to use a computer.

    4. Re:CS students by nintendo_is_a_cereal · · Score: 1

      Simple, we have to take Operating Systems. At my school this was easily the most demanding class for under grads.

      That being said I started as Aerospace and I think average AE kid was far smarter than the average CS kid. They also had a far higher attrition rate.

    5. Re:CS students by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      why exactly is it that CS students think they're the smartest? What is it about knowing how to use a computer that makes for elitism?

      You've got it backwards. Difficulty with noticing or dealing with the real world makes computers a fine domain to study.

      For what it's worth, I don't mean that in a particularly negative way. I spent a lot of middle and high school in my parents' basement hacking away, and I don't regret it a bit. But in the years since, I've come to appreciate how big and rich the world is. There are a lot of ways to understand the world, and my the uber-analytical way of me and my fellow dorks is just one of them.

    6. Re:CS students by AnyoneEB · · Score: 1

      Computer science is a field of mathematics which lays the basis for computers and algorithms. It is older than computers themselves. The actual applications tend to involve using a computer, but there is a lot of theory to learn and work with without actually touching one.

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    7. Re:CS students by AnyoneEB · · Score: 1

      Soon to get modded down as offtopic or troll, but why exactly is it that CS students think they're the smartest? What is it about knowing how to use a computer that makes for elitism? It's not like many CS students go on to cancer research with their computer skills. A few yes, but most of those were double majors in biology or were biology students taking a few computer classes.

      I suspect it is a mix of its visibility and the type of mind that is good at computer science.

      With the rise of the internet computers and people who have been successful with them have been very visible to the general population. The pervasive idea that no one except for a small minority has any idea how computers work while nearly everyone uses them may make those who are skilled with them feel elite and/or special.

      Also, in relation to the theory of multiple intelligences, often people talking about intelligence only mean the Logical-Mathematical category, which is the one most closely related to computer science. Looking at that list, you may notice that several of those categories of intelligence are areas that computer geeks are stereotypically bad at.

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      Centralization breaks the internet.
    8. Re:CS students by penguinbroker · · Score: 1

      I don't agree that CS majors are the smartest but I do understand why some of us think we are. It's partially due to the reactions we get from our non-CS colleagues. You don't have to be an economics major to understand the supply-and-demand curve, most people took physics in high school, everyone can read and write english... but no non-CS major has a clue how to write a compiler (or what that even is) and while everyone uses an operating system they wouldn't even know where to start in building one. This I hear a lot: "I wouldn't even know where to start". Designing a cpu? Forget about it. It might as well be magic.

      I think it was Neal Stephenson who said people view computer scientists similar to how Jedi were viewed in the empire. Everyone depends on them (MS), scared to death by them (hackers) and cannot relate in any way to what they do, thereby creating a feeling of mysticism that an egomaniac like De Mare (I mean he published a book about himself) would probably take the wrong way.

    9. Re:CS students by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      Soon to get modded down as offtopic or troll, but why exactly is it that CS students think they're the smartest? What is it about knowing how to use a computer that makes for elitism?

      I'm not saying I agree with this, but perhaps it is that:

      A. They are young and haven't had a lot of years to gain wisdom.
      B. Observe that so-called "smart" people, such as doctors, lawyers, and engineers often have trouble operating computers.
      C. Observe that they are more talented at operating computers than so-called "smart" people.
      D. Therefore they must be smarter than those so-called "smart" people.

      I don't think this is a good thing, but it's easy to see how CS students might make that mistake. Hell, I might have made the same mistake a few times myself, when I was a younger and less wise CS student.

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      "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal." - Richard M. Nixon
    10. Re:CS students by philspear · · Score: 1

      Well, society at large is clueless when it comes to any expertise by definition. I'm neither an economics expert nor a CS expert, but I'm not sure being able to write a compiler is AS basic to CS as knowing supply and demand is to economics. That might be the equivalent of long division for computer science, which everyone does know.

      There are other fields that are also as poorly understood to the general public as computer science, if not more so. Cell biology for one. Quantum physics for another.

      So I don't think it's the reaction people get from their colleagues. Or rather, that's not the whole reason. It could easily be that CS types tend to take it as proof that everyone else is an idiot because they don't understand. Physical scientists tend to take that ignorance as a cue to try to explain until the victim's eyes glaze over. Maybe we're just more optimistic. Maybe computer science types take that as a cue that everyone else is scum?

      To test this, I'm going to find the nearest computer guy and see if I can make him feel stupid for not knowing the basics of molecular biology.

      On second thought, that wouldn't test anything. Okay, well then just for fun.

    11. Re:CS students by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 1

      Soon to get modded down as offtopic or troll, but why exactly is it that CS students think they're the smartest? What is it about knowing how to use a computer that makes for elitism?

      Why do you think it's mostly CS? I think I see more physics and biology students with that attitude than CS majors.

      Also, "knowing how to use a computer" isn't CS... It isn't even a simplification of CS. Did you have a nasty run-in with an IT guy or something?

    12. Re:CS students by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 1

      Does CS not stand for COMPUTER science?

      Yes, and geometry translates as "the measurement of the earth". The name's largely a relic. Unfortunately, this relic is in English, so people often take it at face value.

      Bigwigs in CS occasionally complain about the inaccuracy of the name and the confusion it causes. Plus, it causes CS departments get hit with a lot of incoming freshmen who really should be in CIS or IT.

    13. Re:CS students by philspear · · Score: 1

      I would argue that "Geo" is a much older term than "computer," and has had much more time to be co-opted than computer has, so it's much more reasonable to assume that computer science refers to computers than geometry refers to earth measuring. But I do get the point. Also if I were to go back to undergrad, I would definitely measure in earth measuring.

    14. Re:CS students by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Engineers know their field is the best because they can build anything.

      Physicists know their field is the best because their science encompasses everything.

      Music majors know their field is the best because music is the metaphysical force that holds the universe in balance.

      Computer science majors know they are the best because they could have done any of that if they had just felt like it.

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      Qxe4
    15. Re:CS students by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 1

      The word "compute", however, is pretty damn old, and is closer to what CS consists of. I actually think Computer Science deserves a different name, though I have no suggestions, really.

    16. Re:CS students by philspear · · Score: 1

      When did I say bio research was harder than CS research, and how would that even matter?

      As far as the computer equation, numerous other people have pointed out the two are not the same. Again, I'm sorry I had that extremely common misconception.

  24. Have you seen the Amazon reviews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There were several *rave* reviews on Amazon's websites for this book, and since the reviewers used Amazon's 'RealName' system to identify themselves, they *must* be actual people, right?

    Wrong. By entering a credit card into your account with a valid number but fake name, you can get a 'RealName' that says anything (I just tried it). I strongly believe that the author has written these reviews himself:
    "Michael de Mare's deadpan humor makes it a quick, entertaining read. One example of his style: his friend "Lincoln" decides he wants to run for an undergraduate political office. The author thinks to himself: "I wonder what would be the first thing he'd do if elected - maybe free the slaves?" - By Valeda Zaage
    I mean, seriously? And that name? That has got to have some hidden meaning.

    1. Re:Have you seen the Amazon reviews? by fabs64 · · Score: 1

      "Michael de Mare's deadpan humor makes it a quick, entertaining read. One example of his style: his friend "Lincoln" decides he wants to run for an undergraduate political office. The author thinks to himself: "I wonder what would be the first thing he'd do if elected - maybe free the slaves?" - By Valeda Zaage

      ...

      *shudders*

  25. Slashdot by martinw89 · · Score: 1

    Slashdot has jumped the shark with Idle leaving beta. It lost too much of it's original appeal when goofy humour lost it's spontaneity and "Stuff that Matters" began to apply to only a portion of the main content.

    Of course, this is just my opinion with no reasonable backup.

  26. Pulled out of idle? by residieu · · Score: 1

    Wasn't the last one of these in idle? I took idle off my front page because of the last one. Did slashdot decide it was so important for us to see these Bottom of the Barrel Reviews that they pulled it into the books section?

    1. Re:Pulled out of idle? by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      There's a much more reliable way to get rid of "articles" like this: just filter out samzenpus.

  27. Mixed blessing by isomeme · · Score: 1

    Dear /.,

    I'm sorry I complained about the white-on-teal scheme originally used for body text in this department. That scheme made it impossible for me to read these reviews.

    Please restore that scheme as quickly as possible.

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    1. Re:Mixed blessing by ericrost · · Score: 1

      That would be because this wasn't posted in idle, it was posted in books. God save us all.

  28. Review is worth reading by olddotter · · Score: 1

    The book might disappoint. But the review has made me laugh more than anything else all day...

    1. Re:Review is worth reading by Cyclon · · Score: 1

      My God that's sad...

  29. Book review by Summer Glau by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1
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    rediculous.
  30. Re:Really that bad? by electricbern · · Score: 1

    And it was not reviewed by rappers. Oh the bias!

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  31. As of now by ericrost · · Score: 1

    I have filtered both Idle and samzenpus off of my front page since just idle wouldn't have filtered this crap, but samzenpus is responsible for I think every infraction of it. Please Slashdot, get some sense and don't present this face to the outside world. Remember that the first time you visit, you don't have an account. Remember that Slashdot isn't digg, reddit, fark, or anything else, its Slashdot.

    As every idle story posted gets tagged: pleasestop!

  32. Can't believe this is news.. by Greyor · · Score: 1

    ...but yes, the review did crack me up! I actually followed this up with a search on Amazon, and reading their excerpt, it confirmed how abjectly terrible this book must be. Strangely enough, four out of six billion people found this book entertaining and worthy of five stars, which puzzles me to no end. This is more like a blog that became a book, and makes me wary of trying to publish such a thing myself. I suppose that's a good thing though, for my sake. If his pedantic and repetitive prose (just from the excerpt at least) doesn't convince you to stay away, his idiotic fucking face on the front and back covers should say it all, heh.

    1. Re:Can't believe this is news.. by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 1

      The dipshit likes Bill O'Reilly, what did you expect?

      Fine, mod me Flamebait. I get all I need to know from Stephen Colbert anyway.

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    2. Re:Can't believe this is news.. by dedazo · · Score: 1

      This review is pure comedy and absolutely balls. The part where he tries to figure out the code is bloody brilliant. I have to thank Slashdot for putting this up. It's hit and miss in the "idle" section, but this was fantastic.

      So even if it's not "news", I say give us more AC book reviews for god's sake!

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  33. Question by bucky0 · · Score: 1

    Why do the pleasestop tags keep getting nuked?

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  34. All indian students cheat. by ksd1337 · · Score: 1

    Netcraft confirms it!

    (Disclaimer: I'm Indian, so please don't mod me troll for poking fun.)

  35. OT: Section by zerOnIne · · Score: 1

    It was the last "bottom of the barrel" review that made me put the Idle section into "always collapsed" mode on my homepage, but now idle content is showing up in other sections. Is there no end?

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  36. If You Want To Read About *Real* Preppies... by saudadelinux · · Score: 1

    ...check out Robert Bingham's short story collection, Pure Slaughter Value,

    http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Slaughter-Value-Robert-Bingham/dp/038548867X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219692771&sr=8-1

    or his novel, Lightning on the Sun

    http://www.amazon.com/Pure-Slaughter-Value-Robert-Bingham/dp/038548867X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219692771&sr=8-1.

    He was from that world, and knew what he was talking about.

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  37. Apparently by dbc23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdot is now somethingawful.

  38. It's an inside joke...get it? by That_Chubby_Kid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am a slashdot lurker. I am not a geek. I read this site for the humorous comments. I laughed because I imagined that any hard core slashdot guys' biography would sound like this one. I just thought it was supposed to be a joke in that way...like all the other inside jokes here. All the "this stuff makes slashdot irrelevant" posts just make it funnier.

    1. Re:It's an inside joke...get it? by dogeatery · · Score: 1

      I am a slashdot lurker. I am not a geek. I read this site for the humorous comments.

      Now I know what it sounds like when doves cry!

  39. HEY! by Tirs · · Score: 1

    Where is the white-on-teal text to prevent me from reading this cr*p?

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  40. Making of a "preppie" [sic] by ryan.onsrc · · Score: 1

    What if instead of ...

    >He likes Chicken Parmesan, Bill O'Reilly, and
    >shopping at Walmart.

    We could say ...

    He likes Tofu Feta, Al Franken, and shopping at Whole Foods.

    What then?

  41. Look inside the book on Amazon. by wonkavader · · Score: 1

    I got lucky on a page which showed an amazing command of very simple sentences.

    I suspect that this bad review will get him more sales today than he's had in total since the day he put it on Amazon.

    1. Re:Look inside the book on Amazon. by colourmyeyes · · Score: 1

      "Are you new here?" she asked.
      "Yes, I am here to get my masters [sic] degree."
      "I am a freshman."

      This is fantastic.

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  42. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

    If you liked this book and want to read more, don't forget to check out de Mare's blog.

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  43. C'mon in, the water's warm. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    You are seriously destroying the integrity of Slashdot with Idle, the reader's mail garbage, and now this book review drivel.

    You missed the Jon Katz years, didn't you?

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  44. wow, egotistical much? by colourmyeyes · · Score: 1
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  45. wagers by headonfire · · Score: 1

    Are we placing bets on if this "anonymous" is samzenpus trying to foist off another of his crappy book reviews?

    Sorry, but they're awful - probably far worse than the books (which have, after all, survived some sort of actual editorial process) that're being skewered. Please stop. Don't even put them on idle. Just... stop. Thanks.

    You can try again when you've levelled up a couple times.

  46. Thank you by lennier · · Score: 1

    For reminding me to remove 'Idle' from my sections list.

    First time I've needed to do it. You might be interested to know for future reference. Consider this an exit interview.

    Reasons: These book reviews, and that horrible green header.

    Bye and good luck. And my sympathies for having to read the slush pile.

    (Yeah, I know this is filed in Books, not Idle. But the last one was correctly filed and was just as bad. Don't make me delist Books too, okay?)

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  47. Whoa. by junkh3ap · · Score: 1

    "Even though the author specializes in cryptography, he seems unable to decipher any social situation...."

    When was the last time you met a Cryptography CS student that could decipher social situations or wasn't awkward around girls?