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Gameplay Videos Released For Fallout 3
Today Bethesda released walkthrough videos for their upcoming action RPG, Fallout 3. Joystiq has posted the trailers, which contain gameplay footage from the starting area and the city "Megaton," as well as combat scenarios and other features. One fight showcases the targeting system, which they demonstrate by targeting and then shooting off an enemy's arm. Another shows off the ability to create and use improvised weapons. Also shown are the lock picking and computer hacking mini-games, pickpocketing (or depositing something nasty in somebody's pocket), and general nuclear mayhem. Further detail is available at Shacknews.
*drools*
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More seriously, Fallout was one of the truly great RPGs, particularly in the level of freedom it afforded you. I spent the better part of a summer break playing Fallout 2, over and over, in different permutations. I know I still missed maybe 5% of the missions, including an enormous conspiracy tying New Reno, NCR and Vault City together which my friend found and I only saw the edges of. I'm simultaneously excited about the release, while dreading the possibility that Bethesda screwed it up.
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it felt like a movie in a couple places. I'm not sure how I feel about the transition to FP (as in first person). Fuck it looks nice.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
They mostly want to show the graphics and the combat. They are reviewing that everywhere but I don't care. I'm awaiting this game for its intelligent side. You can actually play it without having to shoot first and ask questions later. This is rare nowadays...
A game that also rewards intelligent actions? Count me in Bethesda! And I hope other games like that will follow.
You're just playing the part of Dogmeat.
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?
To me, that just looked like Oblivion with different skins and maps?
This is nothing more than another crappy FPS. This is not Fallout. They just stole the branding.
I am incredibly disappointed. They took one of the cleverest CRPGs ever made and turned it into yet another urban combat FPS (of which the market is obviously lacking). Great. Now they have made it impossible for any other real Fallout game to ever be developed.
Sorry I don't have an account.. so AC.
Anyhow I watched all the vids and the game looks like a nice bioshock/oblivion cross. Doesn't much look or feel much like fallout. Have to play it to see, but in fallout a fight with 3 equally armed and skilled people was hard... this looks like its just a FPS where you knock out thousands if not millions of enemies for no reason at all.
Also not sure how you can do it all without killing people when its just mini dungeons linked all together (like oblivion) that you have to kill * in etc.. just like oblivion..
In fact it looks like its a dumbed down version of oblivion.
Sigh.. hate seing the best strategy games in the world turn into FPS nightmares. Even if it mkaes for a great FPS game.. its sure as shit no turn based strategy game anymore.
(I would kill 5 children and eat 3 live skunks for one of those).
Wow. Just wow.
Very few games themselves have ever triggered me to do much hardware purchasing. Sure, after playing through _all_ of Doom 3, I got a new video card. But this, this is just amazing. If it runs under Cedega, I'm all over that. If not, fuck.. It'll be the first time.. First time this century.. that I'll slap Windows on my personal home system.
I think a lot of FPS players are going to be tricked into buying this ("Wow! Look at those graphics/setting/review score/whatever"), and be very distraught once they learn that it is not an FPS. Sure, there will be those who will like the fact that your shooting skills/power are based upon your stats, but I can see those who are used to guns doing a set amount of damage with a set amount of accuracy being very turned off by this game.
Regardless, I think it looks fantastic, and moves a classic series in the right direction (the isometric viewpoint no longer feels right for this series, IMO). Hopefully it can shake off the "Oblivion with guns" moniker - and properly execute the setting. The new viewpoint/gameplay coupled with the classic Fallout setting/themes (very dark, lots of black humor) looks really promising. There's a lot of ways to mess this one up (especially with regards to the setting!), but it looks like Bethesda did their homework. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
This is nothing more than another crappy FPS. This is not Fallout. They just stole the branding.
I am incredibly disappointed. They took one of the cleverest CRPGs ever made and turned it into yet another urban combat FPS (of which the market is obviously lacking). Great. Now they have made it impossible for any other real Fallout game to ever be developed.
I totally agree with you. I held out my criticism in hopes that this wouldn't be a Elder Scrolls clone. But the FPS play of the game makes it feel and look like Elder Scrolls. I know the game play mechanics are very different but it looks soooo much like Oblivion. Bethesda could have hit such a homerun if they would have went with the isometric RPG that the original Fallout was. There are no games like that anymore and I think it would have gone over well....and worked on the consoles. But oh well, thats all so much trash now.
You mean like RPG players were tricked into buying Oblivion with talk of a "living world" and "revolutionary AI", only to get a first-person combat game with auto-levelling enemies, quests designed for 8 year olds with ADD and an interface designed for the Xbox?
I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect that, with Fallout 3, the FPS gamers "tricked" into buying it will turn out to be the ones that weren't tricked at all.
The demos show a cross between Oblivion and Half Life 2 with a hint of Max Payne. Might be fun to play, and doesn't look bad (then again, there are better-looking games out now), but it's definitely not looking like an RPG (and that has nothing to do with the POV; many milestone RPGs had a 1st person perspective - Dungeon Master, Ultima Underworld, etc.).
Hopefully this time Bethesda will at least have the game properly playtested (Oblivion was only tested internally), and catch the most obvious design / gameplay bugs.
It's not technically possible to dumb down Oblivion.
For making the 4th (3rd if you don't count Fallout Tactics: BOS) installment in one of my favorite game series completely unplayable on my box! Seriously i know Bethesda makes good games (Elder Scrolls), but they just had to go and make Fallout 3 into an FPS. A huge hog of an FPS, i would add.
"Oh, no, it's an FPS, it's not Fallout!"
"Durr, it's a tactical shooter now!"
"This game sucks because it looks pretty!"
"Additional generic fanboy 'they castrated it' comment"
Whatever. First of all, the game hasn't even been released yet. All we have is a gameplay video (which actually shows that you can go third-person, as well), teasers and screenshots to work with. To immediately discount the game because it's first-person (or third-person) instead of isometric is simply moronic, and completely disregards any semblance of intelligence that many people believe the game lacks simply because of its first person perspective. Even more silly is the concept that the graphics look good, and therefore the gameplay must be shit. What the hell? Does it have to be isometric sprite-based 256 colour graphics for it to be a good game? For it to be Fallout?
Stupidity. Wait for the game to be released and make your decisions then - Don't knock it based on a couple-minute long video that shows the very beginning of the game (wherein you have no interaction with anything but a vending machine and whatever you decide to randomly shoot). From what I've seen so far, the level system and the perks system looks more or less identical to the old Fallout games, and the general motif definitely seems in tune. I see nothing that immediately jumps out at me as "non-Fallout", and so until I've seen the game in action, I won't say it is or isn't. But, it certainly does look like Fallout.
Screw the rules, I have green hair!
The things that are making me most sad about these trailers are that Fallout was famous for its gore, sex, and ingenuity. So far all I can see is a pretty bog standard looking gibs system that looks like it might have been revolutionary on soldier of fortune 1. You can take note that when he steals armor everyone is stripped to family friendly bethesda standard full tshirt and underwear, which leaves me thinking as raunchy as this game will get is going to be some full clothed pole dancers. Even things like planting explosives in some ones pack no longer involve any thought to work out, you place the grenade, it automatically arms and the NPC automatically realises it has been placed so that it can play a funny animation scene. Sure I'm a sick **** for wanting savage violence, prostitution and sadism in a video game, but that was what made the old fallouts something else. they were games by adults for adults.
+10.
I watched videos and second: this is not Fallout. There is ZERO ZILCH NADA of what made Fallout such great, long lasting experience.
All hope abandon ye who enter here.
Considering that Bethesda already had a homerun with Oblivion, wasn't it smart they based Fallout 3 on it. You have to remember, that although the original Fallout was well regarded, it didn't actually sell all that well. Which is why that are no games like that anymore.
But it probably has lots of what made Oblivion such a great long-lasting experience.
See, Bethesda wants to actually "make lots of money". Turn based games are niche games and don't "make lots of money" It's 2008, do you really want it to be exactly like 1997's Fallout 1 which didn't really sell well?
Your thinking is limited, instead of thinking that Fallout must equal 2D isometric 1990's style RPG, think of Fallout as a "universe" that supports many different styles of gameplay. Like Square-Enix's Ivalice (FF Tactics, FFXI), or TSR's Forgotten Realms, or SOE's Tunaria.
Except the look and feel, the PIP, the monsters, the environment, the gore, the soundtrack, the senseless violence.
There are a bunch of complaints talking crap about the first person view and that you could shoot stuff in real-time, but what's the problem? Fallout as an RPG wasn't a very good one. Fallout was a great game because of the different choices in ways to solve missions, the character development, but most of all the story and art direction. This looks like it's heading in the right way in terms of story and art direction so why is everyone bitching about the first person nature? First Person is more immersive than a top-down isometric view which is exactly what Fallout needs to drive the story and plot to higher levels. So who cares if the fighting system doesn't have the little move points per round? As far as I remember, that was the part of the game that was panned by the critics.
Don't trust a bull's horn, a doberman's tooth, a runaway horse or me.
Yes. We, well I at least, want it to be similar to the old Fallouts but nothing like Fallout Tactics. This looks like Fallout FPS. I'll still be buying it.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
I see all your posts lauding Oblivion, and I'm wondering if we played the same game. Oblivion was complete garbage compared to Morrowind. Pretty, excessively bloom-riden garbage, but garbage none-the-less.
Excessive bloom? Are you talking about the PC version, because the PS3 version uses a toned down version HDR. It's a fine game, though I can see why the graybearded RPG grognards don't much care for it.
There are no games like that anymore and I think it would have gone over well....
Yeah, because there is no reason why people don't make those styles of games anymore. They are in the business to make money. Pure and simple.
Why don't you go support the mod communities that are trying to make new stories with the fallout engines and quit complaining about what Bethesda does? That would help you and them out a lot more instead of whining "This isn't fallout!!!"