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Robert Heinlein's Pre-Internet Fan Mail FAQ

Hugh Pickens writes "Kevin Kelly has an interesting post about a letter he found amongst correspondence from his days editing the Whole Earth Catalog. The letter is Robert Heinlein's own nerdy solution to a problem common to famous authors: to deal with fan mail. In the days before the internet, Heinlein's solution was to create a list of frequently asked questions, answer them, and remove the questions. Then he, or rather his wife Ginny, checked off the appropriate answer(s) and mailed it back. Some of the entries in Heinlein's answer sheet are quite illuminating and amusing. Our personal favorite: 'You say that you have enjoyed my stories for years. Why did you wait until you disliked one story before writing to me?'"

181 comments

  1. Why?! by UnixUnix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why did I wait?! Because I am Lazarus Long and I do things my own way, Bob.

    1. Re:Why?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oops, sorry, modded you troll. Posting to reverse.

    2. Re:Why?! by Dionysus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wow, offtopic when he mentions Lazarus Long in a Heinlein article. People just don't read these days.

      Maybe if you don't know anything about Heinlein, you shouldn't modding

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    3. Re:Why?! by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's got to be a Lazarus Long quote to fit the situation somewhere. Let's see...

      Perhaps the bad mod was an example of "Get a shot off fast. This upsets him long enough to let you make your second shot perfect."

      but this quote probably fits better: "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."

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    4. Re:Why?! by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess the mods didn't grok the joke. Or this one, in all liklihood.

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    5. Re:Why?! by chthon · · Score: 1

      Long time since I seen a /. response containing the word 'grok'. I do have the impression that the general newsfeed is not that interesting anymore, and probably not to the other ./'ers who would use this.

    6. Re:Why?! by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      If the mods are not polite they may find themselves suddenly somewhere else.

    7. Re:Why?! by spaceman375 · · Score: 0, Troll
      From Wikipedia: Lazarus Long is a fictional character featured in a number of science fiction novels by Robert A. Heinlein.

      Perhaos you should read a little more too. Your ignorance is showing.

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    8. Re:Why?! by houghi · · Score: 3, Funny

      People are spoiled because it is free and everybody knows TANSTAAFL

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    9. Re:Why?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe if you don't know anything about Heinlein, you shouldn't modding

      Maybe he accidentally a coca-cola bottle.

    10. Re:Why?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those wondering why this is modded 'funny' - posting anonymously doesn't reverse moderations.

    11. Re:Why?! by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      Bless you.

    12. Re:Why?! by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lazarus Long reminds me of The Simpsons... there is a quote by him relevant to practically any imaginable topic, The Simpsons by dint of its sheer volume and Lazarus Long because of the universality of his quotes.

      "The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning, while those other subjects merely require scholarship."

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    13. Re:Why?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I figure there is an unspoken understanding between me, the customer, and the vendor that I give my money to. You keep making good product, you can have more of my sweet, sweet money. I don't usually call my ISP to let them know my internet is still up, either (although lately, that would make the calls less frequent).

    14. Re:Why?! by default+luser · · Score: 1

      I dunno...

      My sig meshes a Stranger in a Strange Land quote with my own stupidity, and I havn't changed it in five years :)

      I guess in Korea, only old people quote Heinlien.

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    15. Re:Why?! by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1

      actually, it does, so long as you are becoming Anonymous Coward by only checking the "post anonymously" box and not logging out.

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  2. Re:who ? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Informative

    is this idiot ? and why cvant he use a computer ?

    TFA makes it quite clear that it's talking about days before home computing, not the days before the internet.

    Ginny Heinlein said that by 1984, "with the advent of computerization in our household, we no long use the form letter to answer fan mail. I find that it is possible now, with the computer, to write individual letters in reply to fan mail faster than I could check off the answer on the form."

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  3. Re:who ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    is this person who reads the TFA ? and why cant he act like other /.ers ?

  4. Citations? by Naznarreb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone know off hand what the papers and articles he cites are all about? I'm curious to know what questions The Saturday Evening Post, Mark Twain and Who's Who's in America might answer, especially since they were common enough to be included in the FAQ.

    1. Re:Citations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Renshaw reference is regarding "Citizen of the Galaxy": accelerated education using a tachistoscope to provide brief glimpses of material that must be read and or memorized. Using a projector with exposure settings much like a camera, you can learn to recognize things very quickly. I used this when I learned to speed read and it was quite effective.

    2. Re:Citations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that the same kinda of thing Lawnmower...*ring*

      sec my phone's ringing.

    3. Re:Citations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I was taught speed reading the same way. While it worked well, I found an even better use for the speed recognition skill was in debugging code. Doing an electronic search for a particular variable name or command is quick, but when I'm searching for a handful of items at the same time, I can scroll the screen at tremendous speed and stop on the right spot. People looking over my shoulder get sea sick trying to keep up. I was taught this technique in a small private religious elementary school. I have never met anybody else who had learned the same way. How common is this?

    4. Re:Citations? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Samuel Renshaw, psychologist, which leads to this rather interesting read.

    5. Re:Citations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also used in the short story/novella "Gulf".

    6. Re:Citations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone know off hand what the papers and articles he cites are all about? I'm curious to know what questions The Saturday Evening Post, Mark Twain and Who's Who's in America might answer, especially since they were common enough to be included in the FAQ.

      The Who's Who likely contained his biographical information.

    7. Re:Citations? by Sagara+Sozou · · Score: 1

      This is off the Heinlein topic, but I think it's real interesting that you brought up the quick-exposure images. I was going through 10,000 digital documents per day at work, blazing through them via the page down key. I noticed that I read novels much faster now, thaking about half the time.

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    8. Re:Citations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean "Gulf" don't you - I recall that reference in his excellent story about a future organization of genius-level types who prevent fascist governments from taking control - too bad such doesn't exist in America today.

      Sgt_Doom

    9. Re:Citations? by berrysteve · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Renshaw references occur in other books, also. Just from memory, the concept of "Fair Witness" is introduced in Stranger In A Strange Land. Anne, one of Jubal Harshaw's staff of beautiful assistants, was trained in Renshaw techniques. Fair Witnesses were trained to notice and recall every possible detail that they observed during a professional engagement. I have wanted to see this put into practice since reading the book in high school many years ago.

    10. Re:Citations? by sovereign · · Score: 1

      Although mentioned in "Citizen of the Galaxy", more detailed information on Renshawing and the tachistoscope can be found in "Gulf". It also has a discussion on constructed languages and what amounts to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.

  5. Interesting by Aerynvala · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some of the answers were amusing. Good to know that fannish entitlement and the false sense of intimacy are not merely a product of the internet.

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    1. Re:Interesting by CortoMaltese · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some of the answers were amusing.

      The list makes me think that the *unchecked* "Please do not write to me again" and "Your letter was most welcome! ..." answers also work as special reward and punishment, respectively.

    2. Re:Interesting by Aerynvala · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, most definitely. Possibly saved him a little bit of idiot-mail along the way.

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    3. Re:Interesting by RichiH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, a sense of false entitlement was one of the things he hated the most (judging by what he wrote, but I read pretty much all fiction and a good chunk of his non-fiction).

    4. Re:Interesting by Aerynvala · · Score: 1

      That's true. The last book of his I read, and thus the one I most clearly remember, was Starship Troopers with it's meritocractic government.

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    5. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those who haven't read Heinlein's Starship Troopers, it is completely unlike the movie by the same name. Highly recommended.

    6. Re:Interesting by Aerynvala · · Score: 1

      Hah, yeah. The differences were a bit of a shock. I happened to enjoy the movie, but it seemed more an extreme parody of the book.

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    7. Re:Interesting by RichiH · · Score: 1

      Dunno why you refer to Starship Troopers in your reply as I did not specify it in any way. In any case, the movie took the idea of 'elite humans fight against bugs from another world' and chucked the rest. On the plus side, the movie was what introduced me to the book and I loved Heinlein ever since.

    8. Re:Interesting by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1

      Dunno why you refer to Starship Troopers in your reply as I did not specify it in any way.

      The guy who replied to you mentioned it

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    9. Re:Interesting by RichiH · · Score: 1

      The guy who replied to you mentioned it

      Good point, that.

    10. Re:Interesting by RichiH · · Score: 1

      Side note: RAH said his worst mistake ever was that he did not point out that the meritocratic system applied to nurses, waste removal workers etc and not only military personnel. I am not 100% sure, but I think that was in 'Expanded Universe'.

    11. Re:Interesting by RichiH · · Score: 1

      PS: Rereading Starship Troopers just because of this, the above was hidden between the lines. But without the extra info, I would never have guessed. Fun fact: The perceived 'military only' stance was my only gripe about this book.

  6. I'm lazier than Robert by darkonc · · Score: 1

    (with fewer reasons). Please post {descriptions of /links to} the articles, etc. which he lists in his FAQ (Frequently Answered Questions)

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  7. It isn't "better" now, though... by sleeponthemic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Before, they had to write the thing, buy a stamp and send it.

    Now I can send britney my lesbian star trek fan fiction at the click of a mouse. It's got to be wayyyy worse to go through your mail now. (Assuming you have the intention of attempting to appease your fans by answering). Way easier to delete of course.. :)

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    1. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every time I feel like writing fan-mail, I think, "Wait, would I really want to be bothered by this? And is it creepy?" and then I don't send it. I'd love to tell Alastair Reynolds how much I enjoy his work, but then I stop myself because the last thing I want to do is waste his time reading "gosh I sur luv ur books lawl" when he could be spending that time writing more books...

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    2. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is why hate mail makes so much more sense. People like reading their hate mail.

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    3. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by plen246 · · Score: 5, Funny

      My fans are pretty well-behaved. Sometimes they'll say "hi" to me on the street, but they're almost always too shy to tell me that they recognize me from the photos on my blog. Occasionally, my more enthusiastic fans will take time out of their workdays to send me fan mail, often exclaiming that I'm "Super lucky!" or "Pre-qualified!". I do find it a bit creepy when my more ardent fans send me lists of all of the public places I've been in the past few weeks. Although I don't usually notice them when I'm out and about, some of them must get pretty close, as they've been keeping track of my spending habits.

      Come to think of it, rising political stars often take advantage of the boost in self-confidence that comes with their new stature on the national stage to send me personalized greetings in the mail, praising our shared values and beliefs. Somehow, though, we always lose that special connection once they're in office.

    4. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Do it - I emailed Alastair Reynolds regarding his work back when I first picked up the Revelation Space series. It wasn't at all creepy, and we ended up having a decent email conversation about a bunch of things.

    5. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Coraon · · Score: 1

      You just managed to sum up every troll's logic in like 2 sentences, well done.

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    6. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Every time I feel like writing fan-mail, I think, "Wait, would I really want to be bothered by this? And is it creepy?" and then I don't send it.

      One thing that tells you is that your personality profile has an "I" in it instead of an "E", due to the 2 italicized words in the quote. That said, I'm sure almost anyone would appreciate novel, well-thought-out, positive, criticism. That said, I always figure someone has always beaten me to it with a better-thought-out note already, so I don't send it either.

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    7. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Brandee07 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I always figured the best kind of fan mail is the royalty check the author gets each month. For those books I truly love, I buy them again when the old copy wears out/gets left behind on the train/becomes a chew toy for the dog. I've bought the paperback version of Dune four times now (I know, he's beyond getting fan mail or royalty checks now.)

      I have, however, sent fan emails in a few specific cases- with specific inquiries. I've asked a couple authors about making their work available for the Kindle (I have one), and gotten positive and detailed responses, mostly "We'd love to, and are currently negotiating digital rights with our old publisher/the estate of the author/etc."

    8. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Spatial · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well it's true to an extent. I've got fan-mail in the past quite a few times, but I never really knew what to say to it. It makes me feel awkward; just saying "Thanks" isn't really enough, it's too little effort. But I can't think of anything meaningful to say either, because really, what do you say to praise? I draw a blank.

      Hatemail, on the other hand, I can deal with. Sometimes they have a point and it makes you think. Sometimes they're funny. And sometimes it makes you shake your head and want to leap on theirs. All in all though, I find it much easier to respond to.

    9. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Once when I was in the Air Force back in the stone age (some time between 1971 and 1973) I was incredibly drunk, drew a picture of a robotic hand ripped from its arm laying on top of a book titled "Handbook of Robotics" and sent it with a short note to my favorite author, Isaac Asimov.

      Yes, I did a little drinking back then, too. Dover was the most boring place I've ever been.

      He responed via a post card, a very nice reply. I used that post card as a bookmark for years; I lost it some time between then and now.

      I was amazed decades later when I ran the Springfield Fragfest Quake site and had people send ME fan mail. It really boosts your ego! I was ashamed of my drunken self when I sobered up after sending the mail to Dr. Asimov, but after recieving my own fan mail I felt better about it. I wonder if he kept the drawing?

      Sorry for posting this AC, slashdot logged me out yesterday and I have no idea what my password is, and it's been so long since I've used yahoo mail that I couldn't log in there either. I hope I don't have to creat another /. account.

      -mcgrew (sm62704)

    10. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I only respond to authors with blogs. If a person just wants to work and create stuff I like to read, I'm not going to joggle their elbow unless they invite comments and such.

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    11. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

      My fans are mostly well behaved as well. The dogs know how to sit and stay, but the cat never gives me any space or privacy at all - particularly at feeding time...

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      The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
    12. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've written (very) short appreciative emails to Reynolds after finishing his first few books - I just kept it short and to the point, "Just wanted to let you know I enjoyed __ about __, no reply necessary, keep writing". I've always received a reply thanking me, seems a very nice guy.

    13. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Grashnak · · Score: 3, Funny

      I am intrigued by your lesbian star trek fan fiction and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    14. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by John+Bayko · · Score: 1

      To the fan, I don't think it matters much what they get, the attention of someone they admire even for a moment is reward enough.

      Send a joke - on topic or personalised if possible. Or do what the performers do and talk about where the fan is from.

      My mother in law was meeting the band after an Arrogant Worms concert once. She said to the member signing her new CD "You're my favorite", to which he replied "You're my favourite too". Still makes her happy.

    15. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 1

      This is why hate mail makes so much more sense. People like reading their hate mail.

      Well, Slashdot does, anyway (see idle).

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    16. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      INTJ, actually. You've piqued my curiosity. How did my use of italicized words lead you to this conclusion?

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    17. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Also, give them as gifts!

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    18. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My fans are fairly in tune with my life, especially for a predominantly Nigerian group, offering me ideas for my persistent erectile dysfunction, quick money making ideas, and even dates! Yes, being famous does have its occasional rewards besides having to deal with the toadies that consume my product.

    19. Re:It isn't "better" now, though... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      INTJ, actually. You've piqued my curiosity. How did my use of italicized words lead you to this conclusion?

      Sorry to mislead -- I didn't mean to claim any super power. I had italicized your words "I think" to indicate that the thinking before writing made you an I instead of an E. I should have been more verbose, but being an I myself, I over-thought it.

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  8. Makings of a slashdot poll... by keshto · · Score: 1

    What question in a fan's mail will receive the answer: "Please do not write to me again" ?

    1. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      That question would be

      What question in a fan's mail will receive the answer: "Please do not write to me again" ?

    2. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      What question in a fan's mail will receive the answer: "Please do not write to me again" ?

      Writing to say you loved his foundation series.

    3. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by lgw · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Heinlein was very intolerant of anyone who challenged certain of his political views, even driving away life-long friends over very minor issues. He didn't suffer those he saw as fools gladly, and I'm sure he used that check-box often. You can read Spider Robinson's biography and literary reviews of Heinleins work for the sordid details, if you care about that sort of thing. Don't mistake the author for his protagonists.

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    4. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by MRe_nl · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you like what Stanley Kubrick did in the on-screen adaptation of your book?

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    5. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heinlein was very intolerant of anyone who challenged certain of his political views, even driving away life-long friends over very minor issues. He didn't suffer those he saw as fools gladly, and I'm sure he used that check-box often. You can read Spider Robinson's biography and literary reviews of Heinleins work for the sordid details, if you care about that sort of thing. Don't mistake the author for his protagonists.

      He must have had a lot of hangers-on though. Politics is a good excuse to use if you are just bored with somebody.

    6. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      So what? So am I, and good riddance as far as I'm concerned. The less fools in my life the happier I am - and really, who are you to judge? If it bothers you, I'm more than willing to let you have my share idiots. Perhaps you can give them a good home.

    7. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Funny

      You need to maintain a balance. In any room an ideal mixture is half ready to kill you, and half eager to defend you. That's maximum entertainment.

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    8. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by chthon · · Score: 1

      +2 Very Funny

    9. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Come to think of it The Sentinal had a few things in common with Rocketship Galileo.

    10. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Questions that also get the answer added, 'talk to my lawyer about this'.

    11. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by keithltaylor · · Score: 1

      Can't seem to locate the biography you mention - do you have a title for it?

    12. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      What about the same think, only with Paul Verhoeven instead of Kubrick?

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    13. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

      I'm a HUGE fan of Showgirls, will you be doing more scripts for Mr. Verhoeven?

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    14. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by nomadic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heinlein was very intolerant of anyone who challenged certain of his political views, even driving away life-long friends over very minor issues.

      He ended his friendship with Arthur C. Clarke because Clarke had the audacity to express his opinion of SDI.

      You can read Spider Robinson's biography and literary reviews of Heinleins work for the sordid details, if you care about that sort of thing.

      Also Asimov had a section on Heinlein's vicious streak in his biography I, Asimov.

      Don't mistake the author for his protagonists.

      Eh. I know nothing annoys a Heinlein fan more than the theory that Heinlein wrote Lazarus Long as a wish fulfillment fantasy, but I think it has a grain of truth in it. And while not all the political views of his characters line up with his (especially since his changed as he aged), I think enough did to suggest that Heinlein liked to write versions of himself into stories.

    15. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Don't mistake the author for his protagonists."

      Funny. From reading The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, I get the impression that his characters were little more than puppets for his political views. Hugo award, shmoogo award.

    16. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're very daring!

      I'd go for a 60/40 split myself.

    17. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by Thansal · · Score: 1

      This is going to drive me batty.

      I remember seeing the book a while ago, and I could swear the name was TANSTAAFL, and I thought it was written (or at least partially written) by Spider Robinson. Unfortunately, further investigation says I am wrong.

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    18. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by lgw · · Score: 1

      I had a great link a few years ago, and I can't find it now either. I was hoping someone would help us out! Spider wrote a great review of each of heinlein's stories, along with commentary about Heinlein's life and politics at the time of the story. It's online *somewhere*.

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    19. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "..write versions of himself into stories."

      Ya think?

      Actually let me correct that for you:
      "...write versions of himself having sex with other versions himself into stories."

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    20. Re:Makings of a slashdot poll... by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 1

      Can't seem to locate the biography you mention - do you have a title for it?
      I didn't find it. I do know Spider has written stuff about Heinlein - maybe it was an introduction to something?
      Settle for a video?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DHg2b981tM
      Spider, David Crosby of CSN&Y, and some interviewer.
      Don't listen to the last 20 seconds, where Spider sings.

  9. Answer to answer by TheLink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "You say that you have enjoyed my stories for years. Why did you wait until you disliked one story before writing to me?'"

    Because if you're a good writer, you might have pleased millions.

    And if millions of people write to you, it could make the postman unhappy (and other people too).

    There's already a good way to show appreciation - via the writer's bank account.

    That said, do write an appreciation letter if it's for something exceptional (or your letter is going to be something worth reading).

    But millions of letters just saying "I liked your latest book" might get a bit tiresome (or worse think star trek fan vs Shatner ala SNL ).

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    1. Re:Answer to answer by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you've got a better answer than Heinlein, then quit writing it on Slashdot and start a novel.

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    2. Re:Answer to answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because if you're a good writer, you might have pleased millions.

      And if millions of people write to you, it could make the postman unhappy (and other people too

      Likewise with the idiots who call in to a show and say how much they love the show. "Duh, why else would you be listening?"

      Or those who gush, "Thank you for taking my call". Jeez, WTF do you think they name it a "call-in show" for, dumbshit" Quit wasting their time with your filler and spit out your question/comment. If everyone did that, it would leave more time to take other calls.

      By the way, how do we get around to snuffing the guests who have to start every answer with, "That's an good question". Jesus, don't evaluate my question -- I know it's good -- just answer the fucking thing and get on to the next caller!

      In the same vein, what's with these insane pricks who have to use "Absolutely." as the first word in every damned answer? I once watched a guy interviewing someone for five minutes. The interviewee had to start EVERY SINGLE ANSWER with, "Absolutely." -- I am not exaggerating. He used it some twenty to twenty five times during that short interview. Fer Chrissakes -- did I miss the part where they excised from everyone's dictionary the words: Yes; Certainly; Uh-huh; That's true; Yea verily; You bet your sister's ass; Of course -- what the hell are you -- stupid; I agree; No shit, Jack; Fuck yeah; Does the Pope shit in the woods; If it ain't, I'm in really deep shit; Got any other meaningful choices, dumbass; No shit; or any other selection from the plethora of expressions of hearty assent available to the serious user of the English language?

    3. Re:Answer to answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And what is the deal with airline peanuts?"

      Time to switch to decaf.

    4. Re:Answer to answer by nomadic · · Score: 1

      If you've got a better answer than Heinlein, then quit writing it on Slashdot and start a novel.

      Considering how mediocre a lot of Heinlein's works, especially his later works, have been, "better...than Heinlein" still does not necessarily mean "good." We already have enough bad scifi novels out there, don't encourage anymore.

    5. Re:Answer to answer by Nebu · · Score: 1

      If you've got a better answer than Heinlein, then quit writing it on Slashdot and start a novel.

      Perhaps being good at answering questions doesn't necessary imply being good at writing novels.

  10. Good idea by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 4, Funny

    (X)The article
    ( )The intervieuw
    ( )The ramblings
    was
    ( )intresting
    (X)informative
    (X)funny
    ( )bullshit
    and thank you for
    (X)sharing this with us
    ( )informing us of such a very important item.
    ( )wasting our time

    1. Re:Good idea by complete+loony · · Score: 4, Informative

      And of course in a similar vein there is the stock response to spam solutions.

      --
      09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
    2. Re:Good idea by spandex_panda · · Score: 1

      I request that you use this form in the future. If I ever see it again, i will get your address and send you a free copy of ubuntu. (thats a good thing)

      --
      like phosphorescent desert buttons singing one familiar song
    3. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way you misspelled "interview" shows that your native language is dutch. ;)

    4. Re:Good idea by thedonger · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...
      and
      (X)thank
      ( )fuck
      you for ...

      --
      Help fight poverty: Punch a poor person.
    5. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> a free copy of ubuntu

      Is that anything like "death by ru-ru"?

    6. Re:Good idea by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder where the author of this article gets his ideas. I should write him and ask.

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  11. Re:who ? by Garridan · · Score: 1

    Clearly. In the days of the internet, we tend to write the FAQ first.

  12. Re:who ? by paganizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not sure that is an excuse; I'm fairly confident that Robert & Virginia Heinlein were fully capable of producing a computer from parts from a TV, washing machine, and whatever was laying around in the basement, anytime from about 1946 on.
    I bet it was the printer that was the sticking point.

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    Why, yes, I AM a Pagan Libertarian.
  13. Reminds me of this by tmk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stephen Goldin's 23 rules how to act when you meet a pro at an Sci-Fi convention. Not as amusing as Heinlein's, but an interesting read.

    via

    1. Re:Reminds me of this by syousef · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Stephen Goldin's 23 rules

      I count 17 actual rules and 6 "refer to rule X" clauses where the same rule applies to other situations.

      The gist however is don't be an ass, do the right thing at the right event, be generous and buy the bloke a meal or drink. Seems like common sense to me. I guess it's not so common (especially for some of the less socially adept that attend these conventions).

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    2. Re:Reminds me of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know "Always wear a condom" and "cash up front" but what are the other twenty-one? "Make sure it's really a chick?"

    3. Re:Reminds me of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "I count 17 actual rules and 6 "refer to rule X" clauses where the same rule applies to other situations."

      But that's the point. The actual rules are vastly simpler than 23 or so. Most of them can be summarized in only 2 or 3 items, as in "Be polite", "Use common sense", and "Try to consider things from someone else's perspective".

      Unfortunately people often need a solid whack with the clue bat for the simple rules to sink in, or they're too excited and temporarily forget them even if they are familiar. In Goldin's case, he's tried to avoid this problem by doing a specific enumeration of all the circumstances where the elementary rules apply, so that people are sure to find what they are looking for (this falls into the category "most people are too lazy to follow simple rules 1 to 3, because it involves thinking, so here's a list of all of the corollaries derived from them, to save you the time and effort").

      I mean, really, this isn't rocket science. Most people can figure this stuff out, they just don't bother to try most of the time. Also, statistically-speaking, if you are interacting with hundreds or thousands of fans, that means you'll meet a lot of astonishingly clueless people.

      Hmmm... come to think of it, you don't have to be a big star to experience that effect. Work in a fast-food restaurant or other service industry. The customers you face aren't motivated to try to be nice, so the statistics are even worse.

    4. Re:Reminds me of this by Lincolnshire+Poacher · · Score: 1

      From the linked article:

      ``Offering to buy the Pro a drink or a meal is always in order.''

      I disagree with this on the principle that the pro is already being rewarded, perhaps handsomely, for attending the event in return for the expectation that he or she will entertain or inform the audience.

      If a fan were to meet their hero in the street, then by all means buy them a drink in return for their time. But they shouldn't require additional inducements to perform their contracted duties at a convention. As the article continues:

      ``The Pros are here to talk to you.''

      And don't let them away with anything less! They are as dependent on their fans for success as their fans are on them for entertainment.

    5. Re:Reminds me of this by geekoid · · Score: 1

      And rule 21 is wrong.
      If a Pro comes to your party, he is there for a party. Conversation, jokes, etc not to sign.

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  14. Another one by ian_mackereth · · Score: 4, Informative
    Spider Robinson appropriated (with permission) another form of RAH's and used them as thank you cards to subscribers to his Spider on the Web podcast.

    There's a copy here: http://mackereth.net/images/SotW_Thank_You_Card.jpg

  15. Televangelists did it better by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the big-name televanglists (Billy Graham?) had an early computerized system for answering his fan mail. A staff of people read the mail, and used highlighter to mark phrases that contained relevant keywords. Data entry operators keyed in the address and the highlighted phrases. A program used the phrases to select an appropriate canned reply, filled in keywords, added bible citations, and printed out a letter.

    1. Re:Televangelists did it better by plasmacutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One of the big-name televanglists (Billy Graham?) had an early computerized system for answering his fan mail. A staff of people read the mail, and used highlighter to mark phrases that contained relevant keywords. Data entry operators keyed in the address and the highlighted phrases. A program used the phrases to select an appropriate canned reply, filled in keywords, added bible citations, and printed out a letter.

      BAD famous person!

      I once wrote Johnny Isakson about the PDEA (piracy deterrance and enforcement act) which would have turned the p2p wars into the war on drugs, and received a canned reply about the public domain enhancement act.

      Makes me want to pick up my rolled up newspaper and swat him good and proper, then lock him in the garage.

      --
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    2. Re:Televangelists did it better by Asahi+Super+Dry · · Score: 1

      Sounds like an awfully technical solution. I wonder why he didn't just use the power of prayer?

    3. Re:Televangelists did it better by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      I once wrote Wendy's complaining about the lack of vegetarian options on their menu (except for french fries and rabbit food).

      They sent me a reply thanking me for my suggestion to have a water fountain and enclosed a voucher for a free salad!

      - RG>

      --
      Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
  16. Re:who ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm not sure that is an excuse; I'm fairly confident that Robert & Virginia Heinlein were fully capable of producing a computer from parts from a TV, washing machine, and whatever was laying around in the basement, anytime from about 1946 on.

    And it would be a right dinkum thinkum when they were done, too!

  17. Well, check out the last answer on the list : by g253 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " Your letter was most welcome! - loaded with friendliness and with no requests or demands. You suggested that no answer was expected but I must tell you how _much_ it pleased me. I wish you calm seas, following winds, and a happy voyage through life. "

    1. Re:Well, check out the last answer on the list : by Lafeek · · Score: 1

      Should be funny to receive this mail with the last answer NOT checked. Or not.

  18. Actually, he missed on that point by Mathinker · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know that your post is tongue-in-cheek, but the reality is that Heinlein didn't foresee electronic computing and in all of his early works which I am familiar with (e.g., the "Future History") he has human mathematical savants being used for navigation calculations.

    1. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by cthulu_mt · · Score: 5, Informative

      The early stories did have some computers; Heinlein just fell into the same trap as most writers then and thought they would always be huge. "Slipstick" Libby was a special case.

      I personally like Space Cadet; its only one sentence, but the character has a pocket-sized portable telephone. 40 years ahead of the curve on the cellphone.

      --
      Virginia is for lovers. EVE is for griefers.
    2. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by shilly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For me, what's interesting in that is that one of the character says they put their phone in their suitcase so they didn't have to answer it. It's that very human interaction with technology that makes his writing so believable -- even when, as in this example, he didn't predict the exact form of the future (ie the need for a power button).

    3. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The early stories did have some computers; Heinlein just fell into the same trap as most writers then and thought they would always be huge. "Slipstick" Libby was a special case.

      Don't forget Deija Thoris Carter. But by then he was making the point (repeated in Friday) that a computer, no matter how fast, may not be able to beat human intuition.

      Then there is Lazarus's clone sisters Laz and Lor who IIRC had similar talent with numbers. I won't include Dora Long because she started as a computer in the first place.

    4. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by cthulu_mt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Those were the later stories and they suck so hard my bookshelf is surrounded by a cloud of Hawking Radiation.

      --
      Virginia is for lovers. EVE is for griefers.
    5. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      My cell phone "conveniently" wakes up and rings even if I have it turned off......even in "silent" mode the screen still lights up. The only way to go off-grid is to either be out of reception areas (harder and harder these days) or put it in "flight mode" or, as a last resort, take the battery out.

      Stupid electronic leashes.

      Layne

    6. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Mephistro · · Score: 0, Insightful

      In "The door into summer" (1957) Heinlein wrote what I think is the first literary description of a CAD system, plus plotter. Had many details wrong (i.e. using keystrokes instead of a pointing device) and his description of the device's electronics is totally crap, but he had some great insights, imho.

    7. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody knows iphone sucks. Buy a real phone.

    8. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      When an iPhone is off, it really is truly off and won't receive calls.

      You're just a troll.

      Also, you're a troll who uses Steve Jobs' language, which is funny. Steve Jobs acts like you should never call it "an" or "the" or "a" iPhone, but... it's always, "Make calls with iPhone." Replace iPhone with just phone and you can see that the sentence doesn't make sense.

    9. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 1

      In "The door into summer" (1957) Heinlein wrote what I think is the first literary description of a CAD system, plus plotter. Had many details wrong (i.e. using keystrokes instead of a pointing device) and his description of the device's electronics is totally crap, but he had some great insights, imho.

      A great many long-time Autocad users and the like still use at least 50% keystrokes when working. It's much faster at times to define an entity from the keyboard rather than moving the mouse through menus or toolbars.

      That and many times you want the mouse pointer to stay on the focus of a particular point/object/entity so that you can execute the command.

      --

      "Bah!" - Dogbert
    10. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Nebu · · Score: 1

      I personally like Space Cadet; its only one sentence, but the character has a pocket-sized portable telephone. 40 years ahead of the curve on the cellphone.

      Having a very short attention span, I was delighted to hear of a Robert Heinlein story which was only one sentence long. However, upon acquiring Space Cadet, I realized that this story is significantly longer than one sentence.

      Thus, I request that yo

    11. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heinlein didn't foresee electronic computing

      True. In Beyond This Horizon a computer tech explains that the computer operates off of 3-dimensional cams, and says he wishes he could have a 4-dimensional cam (and some 4-dimensional lubricant for it) because he has some functions that are too complicated to encode to just a 3D cam.

      In Methusela's Children the protagonists steal a prototype starship, and the ship's computer is described as being one of the new models with no moving parts. That novel is set in the 22nd century.

      In The Moon is a Harsh Mistress there is one single computer to run the lunar colony; its workings are not described but are presumably electronic. It becomes sentient and goes by the name "Mike"; it generates a video image and says something like "this is taking everything I've got".

      The wildest one might be Starman Jones, where starship navigation is done by hand, on paper, referring to tables of logarithms. There is some kind of primitive calculator to assist but it doesn't help much.

    12. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by cthulu_mt · · Score: 1

      You sir have bested me.

      --
      Virginia is for lovers. EVE is for griefers.
    13. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Naturalis+Philosopho · · Score: 1

      When I read those stories I actually came to the conclusion that he must have been making fun of himself and other writers of the time. Nobody could suck that hard by accident. Taken in that light, they were wonderfully funny tales, if a tad tedious.

      BTW, very amusing expression. I'd mod you funny, but would rather post ;)

    14. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Mathinker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for the backup and the interesting post (I'm not particularly an expert on Heinlein) but I'd like to add the dates the works you mention were (originally) written so that the reader can more easily see what's going on. From Wikipedia:

      Beyond This Horizon - 1942
      Methuselah's Children - 1941
      The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - 1966
      Starman Jones - 1953

      Note that TMiaHM was written quite a bit later, thus the more modern ideas about computing power (if still much less than reality actually achieved).

    15. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Mathinker · · Score: 1

      > But by then he was making the point (repeated in Friday) that a computer,
      > no matter how fast, may not be able to beat human intuition.

      It seems to me that modern experience with game playing AI seem to indicate that Heinlein has a fairly good chance of losing on that idea, also, in the long run, when talking about any specific and narrow field of expertise.

      What still remains to be seen is whether AI will ever achieve the ability to classify its inputs into many fields of knowledge simultaneously and be able to "understand" the connections between all of these fields. I.e., when a go-playing computer program receives its opponent's move, it doesn't have the human player's ability to also say to itself "Wow, my opponent Shigeru seems to have become angry" and simultaneously "That move has caused the board position, when viewed as a graphic, to have nice composition and curious, compelling sub-symmetries".

    16. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by TekPolitik · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Deija Thoris Carter.

      Who could forget a beautiful blonde chick who was into software development, walking around naked, and sex with geeks... and... er... her own father.

      OK, so Heinlein was a dirty old man, but that one book is now the basis for millions of web sites worldwide.

    17. Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was because they were a resistance movement... er, conspiracy, to a roughly standard bloody, brutal, cruel, opressive dictatorship (or Tyranny, as we oldsters were fond of denouncing).

      Resources and technology were in the hands of the dominant villains. The resistance couldn't go mainstream technical, so they had to go "alternative" and secretive. With "secret technology" and "secret hardware". Including ESP-2C.

      AS usual, RAH presents and later denounces the basic toolkit of arguments and means fascism (and the "good guys", also) use to seduce the young, the undeveloped, and the weak - use them as cannon-fodder - and justify intimidation, murder, waste, treachery, corruption, and mere blackmail.

      I suspect he might be trying to get people to consider being more self-reliant regarding searching for answers, thinking for themselves, developing themselves, doubting easy or comfortable answers... etc., vs. the general "culture" of self-indulgence/complacency/gratification, instant gratification.... etc.

      But, whaddoIknow,eh?

      Anyway, "Starship Troopers" (the book) is awesome and deeply engraved on tender parts of my simple soul. But I consider "Space Merchants" to be rather more profound, relevant, abrangent,.... whatever.

      And I wish I could find a decent link to an old space opera paperback called (I think) "Firefox". Pretty fun to read - but with none of Heinlein's deluge of "self-inprovement" dialectics.

      Just rambling, of course. Please, forgive an old codger's senseless muttering. ;-)

  19. Re:who ? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure that is an excuse; I'm fairly confident that Robert & Virginia Heinlein were fully capable of producing a computer from parts from a TV, washing machine, and whatever was laying around in the basement, anytime from about 1946 on. I bet it was the printer that was the sticking point.

    If he had a beautiful daughter he would have had a time machine in his basement as well.

  20. Read "Grumbles from the Grave"... by sirwired · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Grumbles from the Grave" is a (now out-of-print) posthumous collection of letters from Heinlein, mostly between himself, publishers, and other SF Authors. It contains many letters on dealing with Fan Mail, Fans themselves, critics, publishers, etc. Quite an interesting little book.

    SirWired

  21. I have to say by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    ...that RAH is a lot more polite in that letter than I would have expected from his books. A letter bomb wouldn't have surprised me but maybe I am confusing Jubal Harshaw with the Author.

    1. Re:I have to say by demonlapin · · Score: 3, Informative

      a lot more polite in that letter than I would have expected from his books. A letter bomb wouldn't have surprised me

      Ah, but bombs are expensive, and most people aren't worth the money.

    2. Re:I have to say by nomadic · · Score: 1

      ...that RAH is a lot more polite in that letter than I would have expected from his books.

      I found the letter insulting and sarcastic, and calculated to hurt everyone who received one. A simpler, more polite response would be to have each of the checkboxed items by itself on its own page; form letters still, but one that doesn't beat the recipient over the head with "Your letter is completely unimportant to me."

    3. Re:I have to say by Reziac · · Score: 1

      And from all I've heard from people who actually knew RAH... you're right.

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
  22. Good old Robert by Lavene · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even in real life he was way ahead of his time. Look, the letter has underlined links!

    1. Re:Good old Robert by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In space cadet (~1950) a character takes a call on his mobile while standing in a queue for something. He tells the caller he will call back later when he is not in a crowd. Heinlein got the technology of the cellphone absolutely right but it didn't occur to him that in the future people would just keep chatting away, annoying people around them.

    2. Re:Good old Robert by flewp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Heinlein got the technology of the cellphone absolutely right but it didn't occur to him that in the future people would just keep chatting away, annoying people around them.

      Well, there's a reason it's called science FICTION, no?

      --
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    3. Re:Good old Robert by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dick Tracey had a cellphone long before THAT. It was never much of a stretch, even in the early 20th century, to imagine a portable radio that could be used like a telephone.

      I just want to know when we get out powersuits.

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    4. Re:Good old Robert by halcyon1234 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's like the saying goes: a science fiction writer can predict the car, but might not foresee the effect it would have on teenage mating habits.

    5. Re:Good old Robert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, that's just cause it was too noisy... people will indeed stop cell phone conversations when they can't hear the other party. It's not about courtesy, but simple expedience.

    6. Re:Good old Robert by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

    7. Re:Good old Robert by geek2k5 · · Score: 1

      Of course, when he wrote 'Space Cadet', people were a lot more polite. People were actually civil and using profanity was frowned upon, especially by kids.

    8. Re:Good old Robert by geekoid · · Score: 1

      No he didn't.
      Radio phone already existed.
      He used the idea of a portable phone. He didn't discuss 'Cell phones' how they would work, or how you would design it.

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      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    9. Re:Good old Robert by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Actually the character talks about having to give up the phone because it wouldn't have access to the earth bound "relay stations" it relies on.

    10. Re:Good old Robert by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 1

      Heinlein got the technology of the cellphone absolutely right but it didn't occur to him that in the future people would just keep chatting away, annoying people around them.

      It occurred to him. He, or one of his characters, is well known for the expression "an armed society is a polite society."

      --

    11. Re:Good old Robert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recall reading a 50's or 60's short story on the loss of privacy that had cellphones and everything - and everyone constantly badgered by a barrage of ever more meaningless chatter.

      The protagonist freaks out, eventually - and everyone wonders what the hell is the matter with him.

      I'm reminded of that story everytime five or six people in the same bus start yakking on cellphones while stuck somewhere in the rush hour in sweltering heat.

      Was it by the Good Doctor ? Can't really remember anymore.

  23. Interesting by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    That was interesting and amusing, and it made my morning. Thanks slashdot!

    --

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  24. different from his protagonists? by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure. It does seem similar, the radical political statements and not suffering fools gladly. Maybe it's just that what he stood for didn't look as nice in reality as it did in his books. But I don't see him being hypocritical about it, or deceiving himself.

  25. Oblig by rgo · · Score: 2, Funny

    ( ) CowboyNeal

  26. Re:who ? by KGIII · · Score: 3, Funny

    No no... You are confusing him with McGyver.

    --
    "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  27. Insightful rather than funny... by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1
    My psychology supervisor used to keep a whole filing cabinet of hate mail he received after doing a series of radio programmes. He occasionally used to trawl it for offensive phrases to use on some of his less intelligent colleagues, and to reassure himself that his work had in fact had an effect on people.

    And yes, some of it was unintentionally very funny. (I think he was planning to donate it eventually to the Abnormal Psychology people.)

    --
    From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
  28. I think the TV was the sticking point by roystgnr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Read The Door Into Summer: the guy practically designed AutoCAD in 1956, but with the computer interfacing directly with a plotter. The missing piece was the idea of using video rather than the paper itself to visualize intermediate results.

    1. Re:I think the TV was the sticking point by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Other then all the fancy electronics and software necessary, he invented it`

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    2. Re:I think the TV was the sticking point by paganizer · · Score: 1

      so, good enough for a contemporary patent you are saying?

      --
      Why, yes, I AM a Pagan Libertarian.
  29. Because... by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    'You say that you have enjoyed my stories for years. Why did you wait until you disliked one story before writing to me?'

    Because, if I sent you a fan letter after every story I liked you would probably have me arrested for stalking.

    1. Re:Because... by doug · · Score: 1

      'You say that you have enjoyed my stories for years. Why did you wait until you disliked one story before writing to me?'

      Because, if I sent you a fan letter after every story I liked you would probably have me arrested for stalking.

      RAH call the police for a stalker? Sorry, but I don't think that going to the authories was his style. He had an electric fence installed around his property to keep out the hippies who were fans of Stranger in a Strange Land.

  30. shooped! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would appear that Kevin Kelly has erased whichever checks were checked on his copy. No desire to tell the Internet how you pissed off a well-loved legend?

  31. Re:who ? by JosKarith · · Score: 1

    I know you're desperate for a date dude, but seriously you should try looking for one in your own decade.

    --
    'Don't worry' said the trees when they saw the axe coming, 'The handle is one of us.'
  32. Re:who ? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

    Some people will do anything for karma.

  33. Heinlein's Hometown by theverylastperson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am very fortunate to live in Butler Missouri, Robert Heinlein's hometown. Once upon a time Butler was known as 'The Electric City" because it was the first City west of the Mississippi to be fully wired for Electricity. Sadly this little town has lost its technical edge, but Heinlein is still hailed as a local hero.

    I wonder how much of an effect growing up in 'The Electric City" had on him and his writting and what affect he himself had on the community and its total aversion to technology (it's very much 1980 here in Butler).

    In fact when I moved here I felt like a stranger in a strange land...

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    ed duval the very last person
  34. Being polite? by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 1

    Our personal favorite: 'You say that you have enjoyed my stories for years. Why did you wait until you disliked one story before writing to me?'"

    Isn't it obvious? Do you want to flood him with just "good job" letters everyday, eventually wasting all his time? Constructive criticism and empathy (hence the reason they mention they were a "long time reader") can go a longer way to show that you are doing a good job, but have 1 tiny problem with the work.

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    Disclaimer: I am not god.
    We may not be created equal
    But we can be treated equal.
  35. Reminds me of this: by invisiblerhino · · Score: 1

    I can't remember which mathematician told this story, but apparently he received so many attempted proofs of Fermat's last theorem that he got his graduate students to answer with a stock letter: Dear ... Thank you for your proof of Fermat's last theorem. The first mistake appears on page ... The full story is in Marcus du Sautoy's excellent book The Music of the Primes.

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  36. Brilliant. by tamr · · Score: 1

    #2 FTW. I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to say this, or have said it. I almost feel better that this event has been happening for so long, and it isn't just a personal attack!

  37. Moderators by John+Bayko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This poster is allowed to dislike something and say so. Plus it was a clever phrase he used, and I appreciate it. Give him a +1 Funny at least, please.

    1. Re:Moderators by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Please mod the GP up. many people would agree with him. Personally I think RAH just became more experimental in his later years.

  38. The Roads will Roll! by jameskojiro · · Score: 1

    Funny considering Heinlein actually kinda predicted the Internet in the early 1950's.

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    Tsukasa: All I really want, is to be left alone...
  39. Take the Strong Bad approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Sir, I am sorry my last story disappointed you. I will try much harder in the future to accomodate your...***DELETED!!!***

  40. George Bernard Shaw did it too by Piete · · Score: 2, Informative

    We recently cycled to his home shaws corner and on display are the colour coded "FAQ" letters that his secretary would send back to questions about vegetarianism etc.

  41. Re:who ? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    She's fictional but you can't have everything.

    (I know, crossing the streams there, sorry about that).

  42. Re:who ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is this idiot ? and why cvant he use a computer ?

    He's a hell of a lot smarter than you'll ever be.

    and why cvant you use a spellchecker ?

  43. Techniques by IBitOBear · · Score: 1

    I cannot say that I was "taught" any such technique. But I did play around with flash-recognition on my own once I heard what was being taught as speed reading.

    I too can use the page-down key to rapidly scan through documents and a befuddling-to-others rate looking for the section of code, or indeed documentation, that "feels about right" to be the correct section. And it is the correct section, or a relevant passage, a good 98 percent of the time.

    I have found, also, that the other people who have developed this skill all have claimed to be, to some degree, dyslexic.

    I have never before heard someone claim to have been taught a contributing skill (besides reading etc 8-) that lead to that behavior.

    ASIDE: sometimes it is very frustrating for me to help people with their coding problems because they take _forever_ to decide that the page they are looking at is _not_ the page they mean to be looking at. I also have to slow down when I'm driving the keyboard and someone else is trying to follow.

    It's just life I guess.

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    Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
    --"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
  44. Wrong! Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Randym · · Score: 1
    ...the reality is that Heinlein didn't foresee electronic computing...

    Good Lord, Mathinker: have you never read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"??? In case you haven't, it is the story of a libertarian revolt on the Moon, aided and abetted by a self-aware computer named Mycroft (aka "Mike") --- waaay before HAL, Harlie and that nasty one in Ellison's "I have no mouth and I must scream!"

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    DNA is a Turing machine. You, however, being dynamic and emergent, are not.
    1. Re:Wrong! Re:Actually, he missed on that point by Mathinker · · Score: 1

      TMiaHM was written in 1966... I was talking about the stories he wrote before computers actually were around, and people knew about transistors... See the post above, and my reply.

  45. Oblig. by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

    teenage mating? On /.? You must be new here.

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