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Al-Qaeda Web Sites Go Offline
thefickler writes "Four out of the five Al-Qaeda online forums have disappeared. The terrorist group used these forums to relay messages to its supporters. The four that have gone missing seem to have taken a hit back on September 10, the day before the annual video marking the 9/11 attacks was due to be disseminated. No one knows who is responsible for the sites' disappearance."
but you know it means they're doing something else now.
I suspect it's how Sarah Palin jokes are strung together that is the new medium. they're ubiquitous and cannot be stopped by any force known to mankind.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
I wonder as to the real value of posting something like this; Who says that they have not devised some more secure method of communication. Sounds like false hope to me.
Evolution - Est. 4500000000 B.C. Don't piss in the gene pool.
Yes, really. Apparently.
In one of the most transparently stupid "LOOK! TERRORISTS!" stories to date, The Times has "exclusively" published a report claiming terrorists are hiding their secret terrorist messages inside child pornography. Because, y'know, obviously you're going to hide your messages somewhere already illegal rather than in wedding photos or LOLcats.
I'm pleased to say that the commenters on the article - and UK newspaper online comments are one of the purest sources of raw stupid on the planet - are already condemning this as obvious Home Office press-release ware.
The Times has been spotted running press releases for the Home Office before with jawdroppingly stupid scare stories. Coincidentally, the Home Office's call for the police to be able to hold people 42 days without charge just got rejected. Obviously not linked.
I wrote a blog post on it, but I'm not sure it's obviously a parody of a stupid thing that someone actually tried to seriously push.
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The sites were no longer needed -- they decided that Facebook was finally good enough for their purposes. Here's A BIG BEAR HUGG!! RAWRRR!
...when the drums stop.
rj
I think I speak for all of us when I say: Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
ZZ Top issued a take down notive under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act...
US military Cyber Warfare project starts up again, and suddenly Osama's MySpace gets ruined. Coincidence?
She's built like a steak house, but she handles like a bistro....
holy crap - who told you?
this sounds just like my weekends.
JFK? Is that you?
It's very scary to see people like you get brainwashed this way.
Dude, YHBT. The troll here is not at face value, hes trying to get you to believe that he believes that.
Everything goes underground then.
"For al-Qaeda, "these sites are the equivalent of pentagon.mil, whitehouse.gov, att.com," said Evan F. Kohlmann, an expert on online al-Qaeda operations..."
Apparently he's not an expert on American communications - who get any information from the three sites he called out?
Disagreeing with me does not mean you get to mod me troll.
Isn't it obvious? Al Qaeda have simply moved all their secret servers to IPv6.
(Meant as a joke, but probably not that bad for security through obscurity considering the current IPv6 adoption rates...)
"A" is often a short prefix for "anti" or "un". So, athiest (A-Theist) means just an anti-theist, or one who is not a theist. It's the same construction as "atypical" for "not typical" or "asymmetric" for "not symmetric".
"No one knows" -- Uh, yeah someone knows. The Washington post doesn't know.
Ergo "The Washington Post" == "No one"
It also looks like they've hired high school editors. "The sites' disappearance" is incorrect. Sites don't own anything. Proper phrasing: "The disappearance of the sites". Of course that's not correct in Internet parlance. A real Editor would write "The inability to reach the content of the sites..."
The Washington Post is to a real newspaper like real people who don't give bailouts are to our elected "representatives".
Ehud
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I think I speak for all of us when I say: Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
No, you are just speaking for people with really high UIDs.
That post was a cut-n-paste of a tired, old troll posting with the slight up date of using Obama instead of some random jock twink type.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
It doesn't matter. When a thing like that has been said, it needs a response.
US gov is installing root kits on them spyware also.
Some much for net-neutrality.
Bite me
this thread is now about Al Gore
we don't want them shut down
let them communicate openly. then track the fuckers. now their communication is more hidden, and thus our knowledge of what's going on
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
The classic site was Voice of Jihad, but that's been more or less dead for a while. Back in August, it was apparently taken over by some McCain supporter. Now it's a misconfigured shared-IP site on Dreamhost.
bin Laden's annual video didn't get much press this year. He's released his 2008 video, and it's 87 minutes long, but it's hard to find. Reuters has a summary..
I suspect that the main reason there's pressure to suppress his videos is that he always has something tellingly negative to say about Bush. This year, bin Laden's sound bite is "And in fact, the subject of the Mujahideen has become an inseparable part of the speech of your leader and the effects and signs are not hidden."
It's worth remembering that the bin Laden family supported Bush's first presidential campaign. In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden, founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas. Sometimes one wonders if the plan was to get an incompetent into the US presidency, then apply enough pressure to make him overreact. A pre 9-11 bio of bin Laden, "The Man who Declared War on America", has quotes from him indicating that he felt America needed to be corrupted before it could be taken down, and outlined what needed to be done to make that happen. All the family had to do was to get someone in office who thought tax cuts would fix anything, get him to overspend on the wrong war, and wait for the US economy to collapse.
We may yet see a "Mission Accomplished" from bin Laden.
Sheesh, I mean if the journalists know about them, I know I'd try to use something else...
Let alone waiting for the journalists to write public articles about it...
If these sites are down, how will Al-Qaeda make its pre-election rant against the Republican candidate like they did four years ago? If they once again want the Republicans to win (more likely in their view to create the clash of civilizations that they're dreaming of) how will they pull that off this time?
We know that Hamas has endorsed Obama. Maybe bin Laden will do the same just to make sure that McCain is elected and the US can more easily be painted as the Great Satan.
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you don't understand what motivates them
religious bigotry is bottomless pit of slime which constantly renews
all you need is arrogance and a feeling of superiority
and then "god" gives you the right to kill subhumans
subhumans are anyone who doesn't believe as you do
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Perhaps Anonymous did something good and remains anonymous instead of taking credit for things like they normally would.
The game.
The same responsible for getting it up... They're constantly moving their networks...
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I just think that is really scary how Palin followers usually DON'T know how to write in proper English. It is ATHEIST and not ATHIEST. Try to get an English evening class, Joe the Plumber...
What's scary is that you actually read through the old troll posting and this troll posting to notice the difference -- I always stop somewhere around "A couple weeks ago, while browsing around the library downtown" now (the first time I did read to "I had to take a piss" before it was obviously a troll).
We see the world not as IT is, but as WE are...
A very small fraction of you will know that something else happened on september 10th involving the fall of a forum of a very different kind, quite unrelated to terrorism....yet, with hindsight, it's almost too close to be a coincidence. It too, went curiously unreported by official sources, despite being what most would consider a major victory.
Do law enforcement agencies have a habit of launching all cybercrime-related raids on a single day?
Just look for the hamachi or openvpn dark network instead. They probably just setup link inside the old web site with connectivity information.
Or they've setup a torrent tracking site with images of mosques and have embedded the message text inside them.
Or they just use GPG email.
They killed F'ckedcompany.com forums again?
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I don't consider my UID to be "really high". I still go Whiskey Tango Foxtrot when I see those trolls, even though I recognize them.
It means we're winning.
It's slashdotted?
Allah did it.
Though to be fair, god, the easter bunny and Batman helped.
...the legion of Anon!
Damn! I'll just have to try an contain my disappointment!
Remember, "bin Laden wants Obama to win". He wouldn't sanction something that will cause McCain to win.
Amahad just HAD to implement IPv6, didn't he?
Dude. it says "Barack Obama" on the FIRST LINE.
Clearly it didn't used to say that.
You may not have a predisposition to elitism
When I see large domains as yahoo brought down by a worm (few yrs ago) and when I see the /. effect, I do not understand why such websites are allowed to function. I have also heard of al-Qa'idah advocates (calls herself a media activist) from EU; those should be detained. Here in the middle east nothing has changed as far as fundamentalism and funding religious organizations, activities, and schools (similar to those in Pakistan). It is a long battle and they are probably getting more funding from the extra Oil revenues.
That's what happens.
Remember the guy that paid for Microsoft's domain renewal many year back?
har-de-har-har
Marginally disrupting enemy communications ? Or eavesdropping on said communications. If this was the US military, it only means that they have devised another way to eavesdrop. Perhaps they have figured out that they will now use SMS and have devised a way to geographically locate such SMS transmissions. Pure conjecture of course.
maybe Obama was the jock twink.
Don't feed the trolls. It was safely moderated into oblivion, so hardly anyone bothered to read it anyway.
How could my gardener shut down al Qaida's web sites?
Have gnu, will travel.
If they hate the west so much then why do they use the internet.
People would be more likely to take you seriously if you posted under your real screen name instead of Anonymous Coward.
Huh? Is that some kind of joke whose punchline went over my head?
Joe Biden is perhaps the dumbest candidate we've ever had for VP.
"Stand up, Chuck so every one can see you ... oh wait"
We're talking about the same Dan Quayle right? The one who is the sole reason that George W. Bush isn't the dumbest politician America has ever seen?
Biden is dumber.
If that's the way y'all deal with 'em then y'all are doing it wrong. Burning a Christian alive stinks up the whole neighborhood for a week! The best way is to feed 'em feet first through an industrial chipper/shredder because then you get free mulch!
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Don't forget pagans, too! We're even more evil than the atheists.
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Ha. That's one of the funniest things I've heard all day. (no sarcasm)
Property is theft.
Yeah, does anyone know the actual origin of that story? It sounds to me like something that was originally written seriously - that it really was the author's fantasy.
Property is theft.
It's just cuntpaste.
Does anybody know where to *find* these sites? Even Wikipedia won't supply links.
Property is theft.
96666? that's awesome luck, dude.
Underground communications between people who don't even know each other is harder than you would think. And when they do, that means there is more likely to be physical trails between point A and B, allowing you to follow your way to the anthill. So either they can't communicate, or they leave a better trail. This is win-win.
The Bush administration forgot to renew their domain names... tee-hee!
-Billco, Fnarg.com
I'm getting sick and tired of the sites in question not being linked to. It is absolutely ridiculous to take someone's word and assume the sites have been taken off line. I'm not saying that they haven't, however, we have NO way to even attempt to review the status of the sites. I don't even understand the counter argument, site promotion? I'm sorry, but the fact that you're reporting on and classifying sites as "terrorist" sites should not be taken lightly.
How many more of these sites will be censored from us in the future in order to 'protect' the public while we just sit back and take the word of a reporter or the government that we're now safer? I'm not buying it.
I never get that far into the first line
Jayne: "These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me."
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the #1 victim of murderous islamic fundamentalists is, always was, and always will be, other muslims
other muslims who don't tow the ultrastrict line. a moderate muslim is worse than an infidel, as they should know better. and so they are job number one for murder. this is why the middle east can't modernize, can't moderate its thought. anyone who tries to do so, its instant open season for assassination
the west only seems to notice or care when these fundamentalist muslim assholes victimize the west. so the truth is, there really has been no drop in their avarice as you suggest. their avarice has simply been confined to their usual nurdering grounds: their own neighborhood
however, there is something the west should take note of: the usa is about to elect a president who is the son of an apostate. obama's father had once been a muslim. amongst the zealots, there is no greater evil than to renounce your muslim faith. worse than an infidel: an apostate. you, or your father, doesn't matter. your entire family must be murdered
certain dimwitted americans believe obama is a sort of muslim mole, like a really bad movie script. however, the truth is more twisted: muslim fundamentalists would much rather have a "crusader" as a president of the usa than an apostate. a "crusader" is an old familiar enemy, they are ready and familiar with that. but an apostate stokes their rage like no other can. they can never understand why anyone would want to abandon their creed... even though, of course, al qaeda doesn't actually represent its creed, islam. just like people who bomb abortion clinics do not represent christianity, no matter what these fundamentalist muslim and christian asshole wackjobs believe, in truth, they are pretty much the definition of evil on this planet
that islam is not represented by al qaeda is the greatest tragedy of all: to lots of people in the west, the insane ramblings and actions of al qaeda is the face of islam. its not. but its not actually the fault of the west that this is all they see of islam. the whole point of terrorism is to buy front page headlines. its very effective in this way. so moderate muslims really do need to be more vocal, to do more to defeat the fungal growth in their midst. and until moderate muslims fight al qaeda more effectively, they will only see more death and destruction... not at the hands of the west, but at the hands of those responsible for the most muslim deaths in this world: al qaeda
even with 10 more neocon american administrations invading 10 more muslim countries, al qaeda would still claim the lions share of dead muslims in this world. this doesn't jive with their recruting propaganda, but its true. a deranged young muslim, angry at the actions of the west and recruited by al qaeda, will most likely have his or her first (and last) suicide bombing job to be: murder fellow muslims. sad and true. all in the name of keeping the moderate muslim cowed and fearful and weak and in line
people really need to understand the nature of this cancer and how difficult it is to extinguish. and if not al qaeda, we will be hearing about death and destruction from religious zealots for a long time to come
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
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Informative? C'mon. Now, you ARE correct that the last video was intended to influence the election (even the government said that), but the rest isn't right.
Forgetting exactly when TV was invented isn't quite the same as saying "all of them" (with no examples) when asked what magazines you read, or saying that you'll "get back to them" for some examples on a policy issue. Or all that other stuff. They're feeding on her because she only reads from teleprompters these days and after those interview disasters has finally ONCE taken a few questions from reporters.
And Palin is criticized for her pro-life views, which McCain has endorsed as well. This is perhaps the only thing I agree with them on at this point. Obama is a bit wishy-washy about the subject, but has generally been pro-choice. And he was harshly criticized over Wright at the time, but people have moved on like they always do.
Anyhow, if the video comes out, I doubt they can very well ignore it. One analysis said that the reason Obama was trying to make a "roadblock" for a half hour on national TV about 4 days before the election was to preempt any last surprises like that.
Recently a Yahoo employee in India arrested for abetting terrorist activities.
Slashdot = Sarcasm
A- means lack of. Anti- means opposition. An antitheist would believe in an antigod, or be against theism. An atheist just thinks there is no god.
Freenet has distributed (by its nature), anonymous, uncensorable forum software. I wonder if they will go/have gone that route.
It's as though he was here beside me, reading it. *cries*
But I tell you, wicked sinner, that Pastor Manning has eclipsed Pastor Deacon Fred of Satan; Pastor Manning is a one of those Christian radicals that not even Fred could overcome. It makes me sick thinking about how sincere people think Pastor Manning behaves, when he's only a whiny tard with an offering bag, with and a message about Obama's "White Trash Mother" and "pathetic Drunk" of a Father
OBAMMA 2009!
If that gets modded funny, it will no longer be ironic, and will cease to be funny. How ironic.
obviously you're going to hide your messages somewhere already illegal rather than in wedding photos or LOLcats.
I propose precautory detention for distributors of wedding photos and LOLcats.
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There are hundreds like this on sex story websites like http://www.asstr.org/. I believe most of them are genuine fantasies (not mine). The authors post for free because they want everyone to tell them what great hidden artists they are.
I was skimming through all these comments in hope of coming across one of a regular in those alleged forums, but sadly no one finds those sites interesting enough to check out, or we're just plain too scared to.
All I could confirm was the http://www.alarabiya.net/ going offline with a number of other 'non-terrorist' sites on Friday, 10th of this month.
Your point is solid, because what's relevant is whether that's been true recently--let's say, the last hundred years. It is, however, factually false. The religious views of all the founding fathers and early presidents are not all known, and they are certainly not all the same, but the common theme is Deism. (There are good articles on the subject but I'm reluctant to link one without checking it; you can easily search for "founding fathers" "deism" and evaluate the claims for yourself, if you wish.)
if you ever have the need to say or write "Bear with me", you are far better off not writing nor saying anything at that moment in time
"Bear with me" is code words for "pure unadulterated horseshit"
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Shoeshine boys of the military industrial complex.
"A group called Ghoroub XP, based in the United Arab Emirates, asserted responsibility. Its claim has not been publicly confirmed by any authorities."
Even they have the sense not to downgrade to Ghoroub Vista!
They are just on the telephone to Yahoo! customer service, trying to get their data back.
Those sites are where al-Qaeda pays their phone bills?
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If a post has been marked by sufficient number of mods as troll, it should be deleted.
At least it should be skipped by keyboard navigation.
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
In concluding the interview, Dr. Wilson said "I have diligently perused every line that Washington ever gave to the public, and I do not find one expression in which he pledges him self as a believer in Christianity. I think anyone who will candidly do as I have done, will come to the conclusion that he was a Deist and nothing more" (Remsberg, pp. 121-122, emphasis added).
In February 1800, after Washington's death, Thomas Jefferson wrote this statement in his personal journal
the supposed adherents rarely live up to the ideals. The 9/11 bombers who supposedly were islamic through and through were known to visit strip clubs and the like.
Considering that some web traffic analysis shows large pornographic viewing in the middle east I wonder if it is our perception of what they consider wrong. Then again they might not think twice about female nudity.
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Who the FUCK moderated this shit insightful? Three times? Jesus fucking christ, people. You probably watch your television in black and white, too.
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Are you seriously bragging about recognizing poo-eating stories?
Perhaps Osama wants Obama in office and becoming silent would make sure no fuel is added to the McCain campaign????
5 MB Ghotse is just like saying I've hidden here something, please CIA, do not investigate this photo. (sorry, it was funnier in my head).
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Instead of stealing his company's data or damaging a server, he put his professional training to use and suicide bombed their colo.
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I'm not a US citizen, but I had assumed it had something to do with Bush stepping down...
Perhaps the servers were being hosted by the Bush Administration?
96666? that's awesome luck, dude.
Have you noticed how all UID:s between 95678 and 96665 are totally unsed?
Why does the kernel go through stable and then unstable forks? Can't it always be a stable build, like with Windows?
But extra points for trying to work in an anti-American jab.
Maxim: People cannot follow directions.
Increases in truth directly with the length of time spent explaining them
if you have a human conscience
people make it there concern, because they care about the state of their world. this is the noble path, and the only one with any moral or intellectual integrity
sure, there's plenty of tribal people in the world, such as yourself, only concerned with your little fiefdom. well then, be honest with your pov and simply stop commenting on that which you have chosen not to concern yourself with. but you will not convince other people to stop caring
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
the west went through world war i and world war ii and saw what blind egotism and bigotry creates. its nothing about islam. the insanity of fundamentalist islam is pretty much the same xenophobia and ethnocentric fascism as nazism in 1930s germany. fundamentalst islam rather than nationalistic racism simply serves as the template that these maggots to congeal around this time. its really the same, the same xenophobia and feeling of superiority, based on arbitrary things like tribe, or race, or nation, or religious creed
unfortunately, i think the islamic world needs to shed some blood before it is humbled by the rotten fruits of its own fury. unfortunate but true. the passions hard at work in the middle east right now will not fade away of their own accord. what will happen is some sort of hitler will rise in the middle east, consolidate all that has inspired him, and wage holy war against all neighbors. after much death, and defeat, what rises from the ashes will have learned what bigotry reaps. too many in the islamic world right now do not realize what religious bigotry really reaps: your own downfall. the same downfall arrogance, egotism, racism, ultranationalism, tribalism reaps
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
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intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it