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How To Supplement Election Coverage?

An anonymous reader asks "What information sources and social networking sites will you be using to supplement the election coverage on TV next Tuesday? I am ready with a big HDTV with Comcast, a Mac mini, and and an Xbox 360. I also have two laptops (one good for websites and one for streaming video), an old-school Blackberry, a 'regular' cell phone, a Nokia N810, a Squeezebox, and finally Sirius Satellite Radio. Which websites should I watch for live county results? I already know about the Twitter Vote Report for tracking and reporting voting issues and I already watch 'CNN Reporters' on Friendfeed for the national flair. What other Twitter accounts should I follow? Which urgent ones should I send to my phones? Which YouTube accounts or keywords I should subscribe to in Miro? What are the most popular sites for posting 'on-scene' videos — iReport, Flickr, something else? I know most local Fox affiliates are great about streaming, but is there a page that lists all of the streams, in case I need to quickly focus on one city or area? Basically, how would you configure all those gadgets?" This reader might find some guidance in what to focus on from a video produced by reader (and data modeler) Bruce Nash that lays out a predicted timeline for when the media will call each state, depending on when the polls close and how tight each race is expected to be.

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  1. So really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How covered do you really have to be?

    1. Re:So really... by killproc · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Might I recommend Xanax? It sounds like you're a bit wound up there, big fella...

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    2. Re:So really... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      LOL...funny.

      Myself? I'll likely be watching the mini-marathon of Family Guy they usually have on TBS.

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    3. Re:So really... by narcberry · · Score: 1

      Seeing that people get paid to do this nonsense for you, why don't you just watch one channel and let them do the work?

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    4. Re:So really... by jimdread · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also, check the Sunday newspaper next week. They often put stories about important events from the week in the Sunday newspaper. Take a look around page seven, if it's a really big event, it might be on page five or even page three. If you can't find any news stories about it in the Sunday newspaper, check the classified ads. There might be an ad in there congratulating the victors.

      Other information sources you might like to try are: wait for the 2009 Webster's Encyclopedia to be printed. It should have the 2008 election results in it. (You could try the new-fangled "online encyclopedia called Wikipedia, but it is known to be unreliable.) Or try casually standing around a water cooler in an office building. Somebody is likely to turn up for a drink of water and say "How about them Patriots, eh?" or whatever team it is you're supporting. Then you'll know.

    5. Re:So really... by narcberry · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh I forgot we're supposed to have an irrational hatred for anyone that says anything possibly construed as positive about the media. Need my "nerd badge"?

      Whether he grabs a thousand news feeds, or some "news" network does it, he's going to end up with an identical set of information. So they can do it *for* him.

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    6. Re:So really... by Darby · · Score: 1

      Oh I forgot we're supposed to have an irrational hatred for anyone that says anything possibly construed as positive about the media.

      No, you're supposed to have an entirely rational distrust of the media and recognize what they are.

      Pretending that they are anything except your enemy is entirely irrational. That is their business plan, look it up.

    7. Re:So really... by narcberry · · Score: 1

      But we're not talking about the trustworthiness of the media, only you are. We're talking about streaming lots and lots of media sources.

      Stop making an ass out of yourself.

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    8. Re:So really... by cleatsupkeep · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well that's not really fair to the left. There are loonies on both sides. That'd be like saying someone like Limbaugh is giving us "high-brow, thoughtful political discourse that the intellects from the __right__ are so famous for". Don't get me wrong, it was a terrible post, but don't judge the either side by a few morons.

    9. Re:So really... by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Fair enough.

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    10. Re:So really... by cicatrix1 · · Score: 1

      Unless one of said loony morons is a Vice Presidential candidate.

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    11. Re:So really... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Pull your head out of your ass and learn to think.. It's called being a citizen

      Unless the media is going to change the results of the election overnight, it doesn't really matter what they say on Tuesday. Wednesday AM will be soon enough to find out, and the morning paper is a perfectly adequate source for discovering the identity of the next president.

      Watching election coverage on Tuesday is a job for OCD types.

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    12. Re:So really... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      Frankly, since either candidate is gonna fuck this country up beyond repair, I'm paying zero attention to anything further during this "election cycle"....
      I've already voted for the lesser of two evils.. you can probably tell from my sig... We have early voting here.. Voted two weeks ago...

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    13. Re:So really... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      I see the current media in the US as the "US Dept Of Propaganda"... I suspect Hitler's propaganda minister would be smiling up from his little hole in Hell at what the media has become....

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    14. Re:So really... by recharged95 · · Score: 1
      Wouldn't be easiest to wait until Wednesday morning?

      Instead of a $xxxx dollar HDTV, broadband, Mac Mini, laptop, XBox, cable subscription, etc... All you've need to spend is enough for a cheap $5 transistor radio turned to NPR at 9am Wednesday.

      .

      I just saved you $1200 likely (and maybe 15% on car insurance).

      .

      By then, you'll have all the information you need--and it will be condensed, summarized and optimized into a 30sec sound bite. It's not like you'll miss something in a 12hr time period (from 9pm EST Tues to 9am EST), well unless it's to paRtyee.

      .

      (to the author) Just take your prozac, have a drink and relax until Wednesday morning. The world isn't going to change overnight and you'll get more precise information if you wait a little. (of course, unless it's to paRtyee)

    15. Re:So really... by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Why even watch the election coverage on Tuesday or wait until Wednesday morning?

      Everyone knows McTard is going to win.

  2. whoa there.... by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "What information sources and social networking sites will you be using to supplement the election coverage on TV next Tuesday? I am ready with a big HDTV with Comcast, a Mac mini, and and an Xbox 360. I also have two laptops (one good for websites and one for streaming video), an old-school Blackberry, a 'regular' cell phone, a Nokia N810, a Squeezebox, and finally Sirius Satellite Radio. Which websites should I watch for live county results? I already know about the Twitter Vote Report for tracking and reporting voting issues and I already watch 'CNN Reporters' on Friendfeed for the national flair. What other Twitter accounts should I follow? Which urgent ones should I send to my phones? Which YouTube accounts or keywords I should subscribe to in Miro? What are the most popular sites for posting 'on-scene' videos â" iReport, Flickr, something else? I know most local Fox affiliates are great about streaming, but is there a page that lists all of the streams, in case I need to quickly focus on one city or area? Basically, how would you configure all those gadgets?"

    ........... Ummmm...... my suggestion to you is to vote, then leave all the gadgets behind. Go outside. Breathe some air. Find someone to throw a baseball back and forth to for a couple of hours. The election will turn out the way it will turn out regardless of how many feeds you keep.

    I voted a couple of weeks ago, so plan on biking to work as usual, working then coming home, eating dinner with my wife, watching a few minutes of election coverage, then am going to bed. When I wake up on Wednesday morning, my fervent hopes are that this election is a blowout and will not have to be decided again by the courts.

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    1. Re:whoa there.... by Sasayaki · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Doesn't matter. Diebold decides the results, not the courts...

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    2. Re:whoa there.... by Zadaz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Agreed.

      Though it's probably too late for this election, next time if you really want to be immersed in the electoral process you should become a volunteer at a nearby polling place. Rather than just drinking from the fire hose in a vain effort to feel connected, you could become an actual part of the process. You'll learn a lot more than you ever could at the sphincter end of a twitter feed.

    3. Re:whoa there.... by philspear · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Surely someone isn't just marking this thread down because the idea that you SHOULDN'T be following the news up-to-the-second is so offensive to them? I suspect hacking on the part of CNN.com.

      What possible use could you have for being THAT up to date? Even the media itself could really benefit from cooling down on the refresh rate, so to speak. Remember way back when they called the election for Bush, then had to take it back, then called it again, then took it back, then the supreme court decided? I remember watching CNN as the supreme court was ruling, they literally had reporters on the steps skipping around in the ruling, trying to figure out who won. ON LIVE TV. They looked like idiots.

      "Uh... so it says here... uh... Well justice... uh... scalia says 'the decision in this case came down to whether or not the evi'... no wait, that's not it. Um... well Mark, as you can see, we have not had time to read the ruling in depth. I hear my colleagues from the Fox news network cheering so that would indicate a Bush victory. No, I'm sorry, that was actually a fraternity from Georgetown drinking from what appear to be brown bags... Ooh, maybe the last page has a summary... no, I don't know what those words mean.... We're going to have to get back to you..."

      On live TV. I and most of america really wanted to know what the ruling was, but we could have waited 5 minutes for you to skim it and get the gist of it before fumbling around live.

      And it's not just because journalists often have egg on their faces when they report on things before they know what it is they're reporting on. The important points in a news story get lost in the chaos, cutting from story to story, cutting from a speech by someone who might know something to go live to something that's "breaking" only to find out, no, wait, that McCain supporter wasn't actually attacked by an Obama supporter who carved a B into her face, she did that herself.

      Sure it's breaking news, but ultimately, whatever they cut away from to cover that, was likely of much greater importance.

      If you're watching the race that closely, you're going to get all the unimportant fluff crap and miss understanding the larger picture.

    4. Re:whoa there.... by kent_eh · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wait for the newspaper to come out in the morning. They're always right.

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    5. Re:whoa there.... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'll learn a lot more than you ever could at the sphincter end of a twitter feed.

      Is there any other end to a Twitter feed?

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    6. Re:whoa there.... by philspear · · Score: 1

      Aw man, I thought of that and meant to mention it, then forgot! I'd have to point out that there were some other flaws going on there. The polling stopped a week before the election if I'm not mistaken, because of poor polling methods it was assumed that Dewey had it sewn up, the newspaper jumped the gun based on that partly. I wouldn't say that's a reason to stay up to the minute though, look at the 2000 election again, even WITH instant reporting, they called that one early.

    7. Re:whoa there.... by Alegery · · Score: 1

      He has a hobby. It's politics. It's not your hobby. Whoop-de-doo. Why does that give you justification to mock him? You'd think someone on slashdot could relate to having unconventional hobbies. Actually no, I would not think that because a complete lack of self-awareness is entirely typical.

    8. Re:whoa there.... by Cambriaman99 · · Score: 1

      What lack of a life do some of our earth creatures have? I have done all I could do to affect the result and what is done is done! I will forget the crash and bang of media reporting and wake up Wednesday to read my print media and find out if I need to emigrate.

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    9. Re:whoa there.... by theeddie55 · · Score: 1

      yes... the end where all the dribble comes out.

    10. Re:whoa there.... by tdashton · · Score: 1

      For the love of a small child! When reading this summary I wanted to throw up, and then the poster just mentioned some other sort of way to follow the election. What to do - Vote. Heed the prevalent advice here. Oy vay!

    11. Re:whoa there.... by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

      Five to Four. The Supreme Court decided the last one Five to Four.

  3. Eh? by Warll · · Score: 4, Funny

    "What other Twitter accounts should I follow?" Lol.... You actually want to hear what twitter has to say?

    1. Re:Eh? by Warll · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thats why its funny.... You may want to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pun

    2. Re:Eh? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hey, when you get screwed, the least you could ask for is a little entertainment and laughter.

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  4. "How To Supplement Election Coverage? "? by Nyckname · · Score: 1

    A fifth of whatever hard stuff you prefer.

    1. Re:"How To Supplement Election Coverage? "? by truthsearch · · Score: 2, Funny

      I could stop at one-fifth if one ticket wins, but I'll need to finish the bottle if the other major ticket wins.

    2. Re:"How To Supplement Election Coverage? "? by Threni · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm going to need at least an eigthth.

    3. Re:"How To Supplement Election Coverage? "? by paulthomas · · Score: 1

      Dubya, is that you?

    4. Re:"How To Supplement Election Coverage? "? by Threni · · Score: 1

      Whoosh.

    5. Re:"How To Supplement Election Coverage? "? by paulthomas · · Score: 3, Funny

      Whoosh.

      There are at least two contexts in which that is funny.

    6. Re:"How To Supplement Election Coverage? "? by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      Have you ever serious considered what would happen if, say 60-70% of voters either voted neither of above, or voted for a third party candidate?? Yes.. Yes.. I know.. it'll NEVER happen... But just suppose.. Dont you think the media would try to cover that up? Of course, as the counts came in, the non-traditional media would pick it up and run with it... What do you want to bet the Powers-That-Be would mightily to stop that info from getting out.... But what are they gonna do, shut down the internet??

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  5. My plan... by subreality · · Score: 1

    ... Is to go about my life, and check the web the next morning to see the results of all the issues I care about. I think treating the whole thing as a giant spectator sport is part of what creates the whole us-vs-them mentality that makes politics so divisive in this country.

    If you're just *itching* to know the results, though, why not set up a program to scrape results from CNN, and email your phone when they get called? Everything else on the news in between is just useless prattle.

  6. Quantity, not quality by tobyp · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You seem to think the more screens you watch the election results on, the better informed you will be. Actually, if you shut down all your electronic gadgets and read a good book (The Prince or Primary Colors spring to mind) you will wake up the next morning a better educated and wiser person. And whoever wins will still have won.

    Toby Poynder
    London, UK

    1. Re:Quantity, not quality by socsoc · · Score: 2, Funny

      You seem to think the more screens you watch the election results on, the better informed you will be.

      If you have multiple screens, you'll multiple sources of information. Thus, better informed as results come in and the media does their speculation. While I don't plan on turning on my gaming consoles or giving a damn about twitter, I will have at least two news channels on TV (split pip) and multiple laptops around loaded with different news websites. I will also be drinking with friends and causing a general ruckus.

      It will be interesting watching MSNBC vs FOX, etc... Maybe even your precious BBC, who knows?

      The submitter's question isn't that unique, just odd that he mentioned so many damn devices.

    2. Re:Quantity, not quality by Iron+Condor · · Score: 1

      Actually I plan to have two million news sources streaming to my monitor, each of them occupying exactly one pixel of screen real estate. It is my hope that the totality of all this political coverage will merge into a big porn movie.

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  7. I'll be doing *my own* coverage by Roblimo · · Score: 1

    I plan to spend Tuesday evening going from one "victory party" to another in Sarasota and Manatee Counties (Florida) with my Canon XH-A1 video camera, then to send all my videos to Channel 10 (local CBS outlet), then post them @ my own site, http://roblimo.com./

    You can do the same thing yourself, even if you don't have a hook-up with a local TV station or pro-quality video gear. Grab your cell phone with built-in vidcam, your Flip Video cam, your 1-CCD camcorder -- whatever you have -- and upload your videos to YouTube or other video sites.

    You might also want to do your own exit polls. As long as you're on public property, no one has the right to keep you from shooting video.

    Nowadays there is no reason to be a passive video consumer instead of a media creator.

    Get out there and BE the media instead of sitting on your ass watching people who are no smarter than you TELL YOU what's going on.

    - Robin

     

    1. Re:I'll be doing *my own* coverage by gclef · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You might also want to do your own exit polls. As long as you're on public property, no one has the right to keep you from shooting video.

      This is very bad advice.

      While a school may be public property, if it's being used as a polling place you most certainly do not have the right to shoot video or poll people inside. If you want to do either of these things in or near a polling place, please (please, please, please) check with the poll workers at the polling place first. They will know what rules there are and what limits there are to video and exit polling. (There are procedures for what the media can & can't do in a polling place, but the most important one is: if the chief judge says "no", then you're not filming...and you need to ask first.)

      I have volunteered as a poll worker this cycle, and I'm really worried about getting into fights with people about the "Video the Vote" campaign. Video or photography inside the polling place is illegal in my state (I suspect it's illegal in all states, but I only know my state's law for sure). I don't want to get into these fights, but the Video the Vote folks have buried their CYA "please ask the poll workers" stuff in the middle of huge blocks of text that no one's likely to read, so I'm not optimistic.

      (By the way, the whole soft-shoeing of the need to check with the election judges by "Video the Vote" really pisses me off...the poll workers are going to have a tough enough time this cycle with the expected huge turnout. The last thing we're going to need is some zealot screaming voter suppression when we try to enforce the "no filming" law in the polling area.)

      </rant>

      In short, if you want to be the media creator, that's fine...you just need to play by the rules.

    2. Re:I'll be doing *my own* coverage by Roblimo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The idea of an "exit poll" is to talk to voters outside the polling place after they've voted, not to intrude on the sanctity of the polling place itself.

      In other words, be on the sidewalk or other 100% public property.

      My polling place in Bradenton, Florida, is in the rec room of a large mobile home park, which is private property. Many other polling places around here are on property that belongs to various churches.

      As long as you stay on true public property -- that is, places to which the public has unimpeded access, you can film.

      One way to tell if you're in a legal spot as opposed to intruding on a polling place is to look at the placement of candidates' signs. There is typically a minimum allowable distance from the polling place for them. Use them as your guide to the "safe" distance. Beyond that, as long as you are on public property and not impeding traffic, neither an election judge nor a police officer has the right to stop you from filming.

      (I, too, have been an election judge.)

    3. Re:I'll be doing *my own* coverage by Darby · · Score: 1

      As long as you're on public property, no one has the right to keep you from shooting video.

      That's a very irresponsible statement, Roblimo.

      No one has the right, but they do have the power and you could well be beaten and thrown into jail for it. Hell that could happen even if you're in your own home. That is the reality we now live in. I encourage you to go ahead with it, but don't delude yourself that you have any rights in America. Live like you will, but understand that there are consequences and that you have no rights at all that haven't already been publicly trumped by police brutality and ignored by the public at large. I encourage you to arm yourself well and if a police officer approaches you, shoot them in the face first thing. It might be your only chance to get the message out. This is the world we live in.

      Again, very irresponsible of you to leave out the reality of the situation which we've already seen at the Republican convention.

    4. Re:I'll be doing *my own* coverage by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      As long as you stay on true public property -- that is, places to which the public has unimpeded access, you can film.

      I'm really not so sure about that. I don't know the specific law (hence the not-sure)... but in my state (California), polling places have signage out in front that says you're basically not allowed to talk about election issues within XX number of feet of the polling place. It may sound like an infringement of personal liberties, but it seems like a good thing to me.

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    5. Re:I'll be doing *my own* coverage by gclef · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. My concern was that the words "public property" can be interpreted to mean things like school grounds, libraries, etc, which are often used as polling places themselves...so I wanted to make it clear about talking to the election judges first in those places.

    6. Re:I'll be doing *my own* coverage by apathy+maybe · · Score: 1
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  8. it is like watching the Super Bowl by 10e6Steve · · Score: 1

    ...but with a hundred different feeds. I guess you can always Tivo certain TV stations so you can watch replays of McCain fumbles later.

  9. overkill? by Tom · · Score: 1

    I am ready with a big HDTV with Comcast, a Mac mini, and and an Xbox 360. I also have two laptops (one good for websites and one for streaming video), an old-school Blackberry, a 'regular' cell phone, a Nokia N810, a Squeezebox, and finally Sirius Satellite Radio. Which websites should I watch for live county results?

    And why, exactly, do you want all this information overload?

    You ask a question, but you omit the most important piece of information: Goal or purpose.

    The election results and any interesting details will be plastered all over the media. It'll be hard to miss anything important. So why go to any effort at all to increase information input? What are you processing the info for?

    Not that I don't agree the election result is important. It absolutely is. But "more information" does not equal better information.

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    1. Re:overkill? by narcberry · · Score: 1

      Considering the media just pillages each other for information, I don't think it's going to be an information overload; rather an information echo echo echo echo.

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  10. If you put this much effort into hacking the vote by Cordath · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...you wouldn't need to check the results!

  11. Re:Dude.... by eln · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously...the guy's had two solid years of coverage of this damn election, and he hasn't had enough? I think he should just start beating his head against the wall repeatedly, it's a much more efficient means of self torture.

  12. fellow human beings? by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, get out of the house. How about going to a party, or hosting one? Instead of sitiing on your duff, you can drink, discuss, and celebrate/commiserate as the results come in. Much more interesting than trying to consume a dozen newsfeeds at the same time, whatever good that might do.

    1. Re:fellow human beings? by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When given the choice of sitting on or drinking your duff, always drink it.

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  13. Medication by tshetter · · Score: 1

    With all that data you are going to over load your brain and freak out. You will require valium or xanax to deal with the constant swings in exit polls and the declarations of who won what states.

    Get some beer or a bottle of your favorite poison a few good war movies and contemplate how you will defend off the crazies from your opposing party, should they win.

    Or just pawn all those fancy electorics, get some hookers and blow from the seedy part of town and party like the world is ending.


    After all, it really is all gonna end one day.

  14. High Definition!! by Pilois · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I am ready with a big HDTV"

    I dunno about you all but I am PSYCHED about seeing EVERY PORE on John McCain's face during his concession speech. I mean, election coverage without picture-perfect high definition quality is just not acceptable.

    1. Re:High Definition!! by maz2331 · · Score: 1

      Or the HDTV shots of the riots when Obama loses?

    2. Re:High Definition!! by socsoc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know HD is usually more realistic than real life, but why not just join the riots?

  15. Bruce Nash by Bruce_Nash · · Score: 1

    Since my site is now thoroughly slashdotted (thanks everyone!), you might want to check out the video at blip.tv: http://brucenash.blip.tv/#1425102 Bruce

  16. Outcome or Action by nlawalker · · Score: 1

    What is it you're trying to see: the outcome of the elections, or the action (or lack thereof)?

    1. Re:Outcome or Action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I want to see voting issues being reported before the major media gets hold of them and spins the hell out of them (hence twittervotereport.com). I want to see "man on the street" pictures from all across the country -- iReport, I guess -- I want to see pictures of voting lines, short video clips posted by people in line to go in or right after they come out of the polling place, so long as the pictures or video are taken from legal locations (50 feet away or something). I want to see people recording themselves on their cellphones talking about their voting experience while its still fresh in their minds, especially if they are first time voters.

      I will probably have Miro configured to automatically download new YouTube videos with the keyword "election" or "voting" for the night unless some other keyword can be agreed upon, but I don't know which sites I should be pointing to that publish valid RSS video feeds. I also don't think Miro can scrape iReport yet, as I'm afraid that is becoming quite the popular place to post news-oriented user-generated content. I really just want to watch Election Day unfold for about 8-12 hours, as daylight spreads from east to west.

      It may seem like I'm addicted to big media, but I hope its clear that I really want to tap into the raw experience of it all. Not only am I interested in individual stories and experiences, but I also want to see big stories unfold before they hit the national networks. I got pissed off when I saw CNN posting their own voter issue hotline because that makes it very difficult for the rest of us to keep tabs on what they're hearing and looking into.

  17. Mod parent up by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

    I completely agree. Sitting there glued to your TV on election night, watching as each vote gets counted, is hardly a productive use of your time. Cast your vote, go to sleep, and see the aftermath when you wake up the next day. Really, this election will not be decided Tuesday night, it will be very close and involve a lot of lawyers; in fact, both parties have already hired lawyers in Ohio, ready to contest what is likely to be an extremely close race.

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  18. Uh.... by RyoShin · · Score: 1

    My plan is to watch the Daily Show/Colbert Report live hour-long special, then either watch CNN or turn off the TV and just wait for results in the morning, as I wish most news outlets would do.

    I will be browsing various sites through all this, but only a few of them will have ongoing political discussions, then there's Slashdot.

    It sounds like you're setting yourself up for information overload. Dear heavens, why?

  19. Wrong question by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

    How about "How do I get the fuck away from Election Coverage?" I can't believe how the media is buying into the historically-bankrupt notion that this is the "most important election ever". No, wait, WTF was I thinking, the media will say anything that sounds cool.

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    1. Re:Wrong question by east+coast · · Score: 1

      No, the media has an agenda and will twist whatever facts it has to in order to fulfill it's own desires.

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    2. Re:Wrong question by chromatic · · Score: 1

      I can't believe how the media is buying into the historically-bankrupt notion....

      Really? For me, it was three things. First, during the X-Files Series Finale, a local newsbimbo said "Now that the X-Files are ending, we'll hear what the show taught us about real aliens, next at 10". Second, newspaper coverage of an event I attended had precious few facts in common with what actually happened. Third, I refuse to get breathless and hyperventilately every time a newsbimbo (of any gender) says with a straight face, "This is a historical event." No kidding? How many presidential elections don't make it into the historical record?

    3. Re:Wrong question by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Of course it's the most important election ever. Just like the new shampoo is the most conditioning one ever, the new detergent is the best washing ever and the new coke is the best tasting ever.

      C'mon, how long have you been subject to advertizing? You think anyone would care or buy into it if they told the truth, that everything's pretty much pointless anyway? If anything, this election is one of the lest important of all times.

      Neither candidate will have a lot of leeway. Neither candidate will be able to do what he wants to do. The economic problems force them to do what they have to do. And either will have to do that, wanting it or not.

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    4. Re:Wrong question by Mjec · · Score: 1

      How many presidential elections don't make it into the historical record?

      Well there was Cthulu in 2000 (BC)...

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    5. Re:Wrong question by jibjibjib · · Score: 1
      You mean 2001 BC.

      Since there was no year 0, if the current four-year cycle were to be extended into the past indefinitely, elections would be held in AD 8, AD 4, 1 BC, 5 BC, etc.

    6. Re:Wrong question by Mjec · · Score: 1

      Well, you're forgetting the offset caused by JFK's assassination...

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  20. Get Direct TV 8 feeds on one screen in HD by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2, Informative

    DIRECTV Customers Count On Mix Channel For Election Night Coverage

    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=3640094

  21. I'm going to... by Greg_D · · Score: 1

    ... take the gf out to dinner, then go see a movie, then pick up some dessert on the way back. I figure whoever was elected on Tuesday will still be the President-elect on Wednesday, and the crowds should be smaller than usual to boot.

    1. Re:I'm going to... by JimFive · · Score: 1

      figure whoever was elected on Tuesday will still be the President-elect on Wednesday

      Not really, he won't be President-elect until 12/15 when the Electoral College votes. /pedant

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  22. Something you didn't account for by cj1127 · · Score: 1

    Maybe four extra pairs of hands and six extra pairs of eyes?

    1. Re:Something you didn't account for by maz2331 · · Score: 1

      Gee - wouldn't that be more useful for the pr0n awards?

  23. Best listening in UK? by Jabes · · Score: 1

    For some reason I am REALLY engergised by these US elections. I am UK resident and full time worker.

    I'd like to listen to as much as I can without compromising too much of my work week

    Which UK radio can I listen to at which times are going to keep me informed? And what UK time can I expect to keep my eyes opened for key results?

    1. Re:Best listening in UK? by AdamHaun · · Score: 1

      Unless you're a night owl, the polls will close too late for you to follow along in the UK. Here's a list of times in the Eastern Standard time zone (GMT-5). The earliest states won't officially stop voting until midnight GMT, and many might stay open later to let more people vote. It'll take a few hours to finish counting the votes after that. In the event of a total Obama blowout, you might get a result by 2:00am GMT, but you're really better off waiting until the next morning. McCain is way behind in the polls and likely to stay that way, so the real question is how big of a mandate Obama gets and how many Senate seats the Democrats will take over, not who wins. The Senate may be more important since if the Democrats get 60 seats (a long shot) they'll be able to override filibusters.

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    2. Re:Best listening in UK? by Darby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For some reason I am REALLY engergised by these US elections. I am UK resident and full time worker.

      Well, then you're an idiot. It's a choice between the Nazi traitor McCain and the other traitor who also voted for the "let the government spy on everyone, constitution be damned" act.

      Either way, fascism wins and America pisses on the graves of all of our WW2 vets. The sick part is some of them are still alive knowing they'll be resting in the piss of their nation in a big fuck you to their sacrifice.

    3. Re:Best listening in UK? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      You're really loopy. Did you know that? Will you be here all week? Should I try the fish?

    4. Re:Best listening in UK? by Darby · · Score: 1

      Oh, no actual factual rebuttals, merely ad hominems completely divorced from reality. Fair enough.

      Have fun in the death camps!

    5. Re:Best listening in UK? by xaxa · · Score: 1

      BBC Radio 4 have coverage from 0:00 to 5:20
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/pip/52l2g/

      I don't own a radio, so the only radio I listen to is on DVB-T (digital TV, freeview). I don't know of any other decent stations than Radio 4 for news and current affairs.

    6. Re:Best listening in UK? by Darby · · Score: 1

      You're complaining about ad hominems when you called McCain a "Nazi traitor"? Christ, politics brings out the idiots.

      Was there something in particular about that that you object to? He voted for the telecom immunity bill making him a traitor. He's a Republican, hence a Nazi. You do know they were gung ho Hitler supporters in WW2, right? You do know Nazism is characterized by rabid anti-leftism and since WW2 the Republicans have defined themselves the same way, right?

      So, yes, Nazi traitor is a completely accurate and objective description of McCain.

  24. viral marketing by owlnation · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This article is the 4th in 5 days that has been posted purely as viral marketing for twitter. The jerks that own that site must be running out of cash (hopefully). Editors, please STOP the twitter slashvertisments.

    1. Re:viral marketing by game+kid · · Score: 1

      The jerks that own that site must be running out of cash (hopefully).

      Not really. Those important updates are brought to you by Linden Lab.

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    2. Re:viral marketing by sdickert · · Score: 1

      Guys - this is not for twitter - this is about helping average Americans report on the state of the polls - instead of simply listening to CNN/FauxNews and the like. AND - you can use SMS, IVRU and plain ol voice. Go to twittervotereport.com and find out how.

    3. Re:viral marketing by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wait. Everybody knows you ... so you have to stay on the QT? Doesn't one usually "stay on the QT" when one is doing something sort of crooked? If you're not advertising, as you claim, what exactly is your motive?

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    4. Re:viral marketing by coaxial · · Score: 1

      What makes you think that this is viral marketting? Twitter has many true believer users. Some of which read /. .

      Either produce some proof, or shut the hell up.

  25. Supplement, hell. I'll be glued to FOX by smchris · · Score: 1

    If they steal a third one, I can watch them unfold the story line.

    Otherwise, I can undoubtedly watch the most volatile melange of Freudian neurotic mechanisms seen in one place since Hilter's last days in the bunker.
     

  26. Shut up about the elections by Daimanta · · Score: 1

    Seriously. I live abroad and for the last year it has annoyed me GREATLY that every week there was at least one topic about the US election. And it has been progressively getting worse. I feel sorry for people in the US for probably having to suffer through this hell times ten because the coverage is total overkill. Just hold the elections. Tomorrow for all I care and then STOP with the coverage. I have had enough of Joe the Plumber and Sarah "you betcha" Palin and Obama's cousin twice-removed. Just stop. Show us the other things that are happening in the world please, like an indepth topic about the situation in Congo.

    But it's heresy that I want to talk about a big conflict in a large country where thousands of people are dead and even more are on the run. Let's switch over to Obama's mailman from 3 decades ago, because we all know that there is no thing that is more important than trivial matters in an election.

    Get it over with and shut up.

    This message not brought by the Obama campaign nor the McCain campaign.

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    1. Re:Shut up about the elections by opencity · · Score: 1

      Who forces you to consume this news? It's the internet for $%#@ sake, google some tech stuff.

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    2. Re:Shut up about the elections by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should click on the main page and then click on the "Politics" link. If you look at the top, near the /. logo, you should see and be able to identify the flag behind it. It is an American site, finding news about American politics in the news section of an American site should probably be expected this close to the election.`

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    3. Re:Shut up about the elections by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Most of the politics stories this year have been posted to the 'news' section of Slashdot.

      (Shouldn't this one be in Ask Slashdot anyway?)

    4. Re:Shut up about the elections by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Ah. If you want to complain about the placement of some of the articles then I'm pretty sure that's a legit complaint. Personally, I have given up on paying attention to where the articles end up.

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  27. None at all! by schnikies79 · · Score: 1

    I've already voted (absentee) since I will be out of the area.

    I'm going media free election day. No internet, no television, no radio. Is my being glued the tv/web going to change anything except my stress level?

    Wednesday, I will know.

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    1. Re:None at all! by Kineel · · Score: 1

      I may wait until the weekend to find out. I work from home. I can avoid all news outlets for that long. The better to get drunk when I find out. Celebrating or commiserating, isn't it great that alcohol goes with both?

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  28. The only site you need to check out the next morn by /dev/trash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is the SCOTUS web site

  29. summary of the Nash presentation by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Informative

    For anyone who doesn't want to sit through the entire (long) Flash presentation by Bruce Nash, here's a micro-summary. Basically, he predicts that it will be around 8 pm Pacific time that they call Virginia and Pennsylvania for Obama, at which point it will be clear that Obama has won.

  30. ha by nomadic · · Score: 1

    Who has time, I get to spend 12 hours outside in the Florida sun being a poll watcher.

  31. Need a pill by gsgriffin · · Score: 1

    With a setup like that, you just need the blue pill. Just the suppliment you appear to need.

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  32. Don't forget your BATHROOM!! by AmigaHeretic · · Score: 1

    Bestbuy has a pretty good deal on an LCD HDTV for under $300. Might want to get one for the bathroom incase you have to 'poop' as they're about to announce the winner. Just sayin'...

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8987475&type=product&id=1218006548849

    .

  33. wget the Internet by spintriae · · Score: 1

    You'll never be able to keep up. Just wget the Internet on Nov 4. I'll be too busy to myself, so if it wouldn't be too much trouble to email a copy in a zip file, that would be great.

  34. Slashdot article mentions current fad!?! Outrage! by Talisein · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The twitter advertisements aren't so bad as the more prevalent "blog" advertisements. Nearly every /. article mentions some blog or another. The jerks that own blogs must be running out of cash (hopefully).

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  35. dear god by Deadplant · · Score: 1

    "This reader might find some guidance in what to focus on, when, in a video produced by reader (and data modeler) Bruce Nash that lays out a predicted timeline for when the media will call each state, depending on when the polls close and how tight each race is expected to be. "

    Kdawson your english teacher is spinning in his or her grave.
    That paragraph sized sentence is a crime against humanity.

    1. Re:dear god by maxume · · Score: 1

      I think his English teacher is working in a factory in China.

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  36. Updating automatically every 60 seconds... by Statecraftsman · · Score: 1

    you can do a search on Tweet Scan like this:

    http://tweetscan.com/index.php?s=obama+OR+biden+palin+mccain

  37. "Reader"? by mqduck · · Score: 2, Funny

    This reader might find some guidance in what to focus on, when, in a video[...]

    Isn't it a bit presumptions to assume that, just because he posts on Slashdot, he's actually a reader?

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    1. Re:"Reader"? by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Come to think of it, calling that person "he" was also presumptuous.

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    2. Re:"Reader"? by maxume · · Score: 1

      What if it is a dog!?

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  38. Fox News is all you need. by bedroll · · Score: 4, Funny

    What better way to spend election night than to watch with elation as the Fox people have to call state after state for Obama? Grab a beer and tune in to Fox. Maybe every now and then tune in to another organization to see if they've already called states for Obama that Fox is waiting to call because they just can't stand it.

    1. Re:Fox News is all you need. by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean like in 2000 when the rest of the media declared gore the winner in FL an hour before the polls closed due to time zone problems? (i.e. an apparently institutional inability to .. subtract...)

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    2. Re:Fox News is all you need. by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd like to have a webcam in your home, so I could see you swallow your tongue if he doesn't win.

      Sure, he may, and it seems like he's ahead in the polls. But the smugness of the Left is fairly sickening. I don't recall the whacky Right being that smug last election when Bush won somewhat comfortably.

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    3. Re:Fox News is all you need. by spintriae · · Score: 1

      Well at this time four years ago, Kerry was ahead in the polls, so why would Republican'ts be smug about that? http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Nov01.html

    4. Re:Fox News is all you need. by Ardeaem · · Score: 1

      I don't recall the whacky Right being that smug last election when Bush won somewhat comfortably.

      Are you kidding? Didn't you see all the "W. Still the President" stickers? They were all over the place. You can still buy them, as a matter of fact, in many places.

    5. Re:Fox News is all you need. by apathy+maybe · · Score: 1

      Speaking of someone "on the Left", I hope they all lose. Fuck electoral politics, how about a bit of democracy for a change?

      Tell me how a single person (the president), elected by an electoral college (as opposed to directly by the people), with no requirments to follow what he (in almost all cases it's "he") said during the campaign is "representative"? Is this one person supposed to represent all of "America" (impossible to do), just the people who voted for him (what including the small l liberals, and the crazy religious freaks in the case of McCain?) (who will also only end up being between 25 and 35 percent of the population anyway, due to people not voting), or maybe just the corporations that funded him?

      Yeah, democracy, "rule of the people", great idea, wish we could get some of that.

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  39. Well, according to the ads on Slashdot... by writermike · · Score: 1

    Perhaps you could watch CNN HD on Dish Network. After all, they have "MORE HD FOR LESS MONEY." Clearly this is a win/win! ;-)

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  40. Enhance?!? by Kineel · · Score: 1

    I still want to figure out how to ignore the fracking campaign.

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  41. Re:Text Message Results? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    although I'm not supposed to have any media within the polls

    Then don't. Give no excuse for anyone to question that polling places results. Whoever wins, will still win whether you know about it instantly or not.

  42. Old school by lucm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Miro? Laptops? Blackberry? Xbox? You probably have a bigger electromagnetic footprint than the power lines in my backyard...

    Do you really need all that Inspector Gadget weaponry? Why don't you coze up with an old AM radio, a bottle of gin and a beat-up deck of cards which has the perfect texture to play Solitaire in a dimly lighted living room? And a simple sheet where you strike or circle states as they are being called officially?

    Do you really see any value in being the first to send a twitter to your pals about such or such result, while everybody on Earth and beyond will be completely aware of the information in a matter of minutes or hours? There is no scoop on election night, only an annoying chase to be first to know.

    You want a real scoop? Here is one: while Obama is way up in polls, McCain will be the next president. Because the people that were supposed to vote for Obama were too busy subscribing to RSS feeds and setting up gamma on their webcam so they would be ready to upload their comments on youtube, and they neglected to go on and vote. While the good ol' God fearing folks were first in line at the booth and spent the election night sipping gin and playing Solitaire. That's exactly how Le Pen got so far in the French elections a few years back - not enough people casting their vote because the polls were on their side.

    There is just too much gadgets people. Time to pull a few plugs and get in touch with reality, where elections are won by people who get the most votes, not people who get the most Digg or website hits.

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  43. Re:Text Message Results? by cashman73 · · Score: 1

    It shouldn't be a problem for you. No state election returns will be released when the polls are open. And with Florida in the east coast, you probably won't miss anything.

  44. Bravo! Very sensible advice! by rts008 · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the reading suggestions, I will have to check them out.

    Here in my home state(Oklahoma, USA), third party/independents have to get a minimum number of signatures on a petition (IIRC 50,000) to be included on the ballot-write-ins not allowed, as they are marked invalid*, or not counted*.

    This presidential election, we (in Oklahoma) only have two choices for casting votes for the President...Republican(McCain/Palin) vs. Democrat(Barrack/Biden), or choose not to vote.

    IMHO, that sucks. My personal choices this election is to either vote for the lesser of two evils, or abstain from voting on the presidential race. I would much rather have a third option of writing in a 'valid'** candidate to vote for. I guess I need to work on getting this changed....

    *Only for that 'line item' of the ballot, not the whole ballot.

    **Excluding such nonsense as: Mickey Mouse, Richard M. Nixon, George Washington, etc., but actual 'real' people.(I also understand why it is this way- it does reduce the 'noise in the signal', so to speak, but there should be/needs to be a middle ground here).
    Sorry about the awkwardly worded sentence above!

    Yes, the 'lesser of two evils' phrase used above does imply my political bias in this election, but I still think my rant/opinion may be valid overall.

    Sorry if this sounds pedantic, I just wanted to be clear.

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  45. an Xbox 360? by cashman73 · · Score: 1

    Umm, seriously? How exactly is that going to help you find election results?

    1. Re:an Xbox 360? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      With new "Vote Hero". It doesn't matter if you know the issues, or even know how to vote. All you have to do is click the big blue and red buttons at the right time.

      Recently released on the Diebold platform!!

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  46. Talk About Overkill by coaxial · · Score: 1

    Let me tell you how the campaigns do it.

    They watch TV.

    That's it. You pick a channel (or two) and you go with it. If you care about state and local elections, then pick a broadcast network, since CNN isn't going to cover San Francisco's Proposition R. You want some fine grain coverage, or fine grain coverage outside of your media market? Secretary of State websites.

    Youre done.

    Twitter? HA! And double HA! Those losers watch TV. Twitter doesn't break a damn thing.

  47. Just vote, worry about the data later. by surferx0 · · Score: 1

    The only thing that affects the outcome is you voting, there is no reason to be watching vote by vote results as they come in one a second by second basis. Nobody cares that you are watching besides the TV sponsors, the same outcome will happen regardless of how much attention you give to it.

    If you want to know all the data concerning what areas voted for what, it will all be available to you after the election is over, and it will be complete and useful information should you care to access it unlike incomplete live results.

  48. Whoah!!! (head asplodes) by rts008 · · Score: 1

    *News for Nerds-Stuff that matters*

    (no sarcasm intended!)
    Novel Concept(tm)! Good idea!
    I may be slow catching on, but to me, that is a cool idea, and a constructive reply to the article poster!

    Well done, sir! (stuff like this keeps me on /. after I think it may have 'jumped the shark'. Re-birth of 'faith in a failed humanity' delusion on my part, I suspect.)

    However....

    Keep in mind that gclef (96311) has a very informative and VERY valid reply that needs to be taken into account.(needs modded up to the top)

    I shall take both pieces of advice this election, and at least be entertained and engaged!

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  49. Yea... So... by Dunega · · Score: 1

    I'm going to get up on Wednesday and listen to the news on the local morning show.. and since we can't have an election without weeks in court I'm sure I'll find out nothing. Then I'll proceed to not care about the 5000 hours of "media" coverage while they do that. Then finally by thanksgiving hopefully we'll actually know who won.

  50. My plan by Medieval_Thinker · · Score: 1

    1. Drink tequila until I pass out after voting all my ACORN ballots.
    2. Check the paper to see results in the morning while nursing a hangover.
    3. Take money from shorting Lehman Brothers and buy unregistered handguns.
    4. In six weeks hear on NPR that the last vote count has been validated by the courts.
    5. Wait for civil unrest and start selling handguns.
    5. Profit

  51. I could care less... by Dunega · · Score: 1

    ...as long as I don't have to hear the words "It's George Bush's fault" ever again.

    1. Re:I could care less... by Darby · · Score: 1

      ...as long as I don't have to hear the words "It's George Bush's fault" ever again.

      Kill yourself now then. We're still paying Reagan's debts and fighting the terrorists he trained armed and funded through selling crack. Bush's legacy hasn't even begun.

       

    2. Re:I could care less... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You honestly think either candidate will willingly take the blame for the train wreck economy we're about to face? I'm fairly sure you'll hear that a LOT of times in the next few years.

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    3. Re:I could care less... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Well, if McCain wins, then you will hear "It's McCains fault", so that is what you should hope for. Because if Obama wins, then when he starts screwing things up, they will just say it is lagging from when Bush was president.

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  52. Text to OBAMA (62262) by BBCWatcher · · Score: 1

    The Obama campaign will almost certainly send out text message updates with election results from their point of view. Details (and other text commands) are at http://www.barackobama.com/mobile. If you want lots of updates text FOLLOW BARACKOBAMA to 40404 or use Twitter. (I can't find anything similar from the McCain campaign.) Or better yet you can get a life and volunteer now through Election Day (and even a little beyond) for your preferred candidate running at any level. It's far more enjoyable and interesting than sitting next to a bunch of buzzing electronics.

  53. What You Need by NewbieV · · Score: 3, Informative

    Keep one window open to fivethirtyeight.com; one window for The Huffington Post, and one for Swampland.
    For TV, I'd go with MSNBC (Chuck Todd ftw), CNN and Fox, just to watch and see if their heads asplode :)

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    1. Re:What You Need by bobobobo · · Score: 1

      Who says there's no left-wing bias on slashdot!

    2. Re:What You Need by ab0mb88 · · Score: 1

      This is a concept that needs to be kept in check. Reality/Facts do not have a bias. The concept that they do is what causes examples such as evolution vs intelligent design. If facts can have a bias than that opens the door for the opposition to counterbalance with bias that isn't based in reality.

    3. Re:What You Need by bobobobo · · Score: 1

      I guess we'll find out on Tuesday night shant we? Incidentally, I'll be watching msnbc also. Can't miss television's first on-air stroke by Olbermann, when Mccain wins it in a land slide.

    4. Re:What You Need by NewbieV · · Score: 1

      bobobobo, how did that TV watching work out for you?

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  54. Hints by S-100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hints:

    Once the live coverage starts, look for clues from the "pundits", especially a change in attitude while the polls are open. The newsrooms have access to the incoming exit polls, but they do not share that with the audience while the polls are still open. That's how they can call a state immediately after the polls have closed - they had the info long before but withheld it.

    But, the pundits want to look good, so their "predictions" before the polls close will be strongly biased by the incoming exit poll information. That said, exit polls have been wildly inaccurate in the past two national elections and in some of the primaries this year.

    Also look at the mood of insiders that have access to the internal polling, such as Karl Rove. They will still be spinning, but they are unlikely to say anything that is directly contradictory to the polling data.

    When the race narrows down to a few states, find the web site for the state that posts the raw data. You'll get the counts there minutes before it's updated on the news networks.

    Then check in often on new sites like Drudge Report. Drudge as a policy ignores news embargoes, so you can often read a breaking story there first. Forget about the blog sites for fresh information, but they will be the nursery for the conspiracy theories to be launched by the losing side. This year, there's plenty to go around.

    1. Re:Hints by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That said, exit polls have been wildly inaccurate in the past two national elections and in some of the primaries this year.

      Its interesting how exit polling is so well-developed that significant divergence in actual results from exit polling is evidence of election fraud when discovered in monitored elections, but when it happens in US elections, it is assumed that there is something wrong with the polling, not the election itself.

  55. Nah by maz2331 · · Score: 1

    Let the National Guard handle those... if they happen. *

    Besides, why not just do it in 3D for really good realism? **

    * Please let no riots happen!
    ** 3D is really cool

    (Disclaimer: I like 3D so much, I built a camera.)

    1. Re:Nah by nomadic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let the National Guard handle those... if they happen. *

      Too bad they're all in Iraq.

      * Please let no riots happen!

      There shouldn't be riots if Obama wins, or if McCain wins fairly. If there's another 2000 situation and McCain wins a crooked election, then there probably SHOULD be riots. When you take away the fundamental right to vote then there aren't that many other alternatives.

    2. Re:Nah by dpilot · · Score: 1

      No mod points, flagging with a response, instead.

      Incidentally, as for fraud, there is relatively little evidence of "excess" voters. There have been fraudulent registrations in this cycle, but those were flagged as fraudulent in by Acorn themselves, who are legally obliged to turn in ALL registrations. But there appear to be decent mechanisms in place to protect the vote, itself. These findings on voter fraud were reported by a Republican appointee, by the way. (One of the 8 Federal attorneys fired.)

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    3. Re:Nah by JonDorian88 · · Score: 1

      When you take away the fundamental right to vote then there aren't that many other alternatives.

      Yes, because rioting and political upheaval has worked wonders for the French; and Detroit.

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    4. Re:Nah by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Yes, because rioting and political upheaval has worked wonders for the French

      Ask Louis XIV.

  56. Masturbate by kaufmanmoore · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fire up your favorite porno and fire one off, seems appropriate for an instance where we will get screwed either way.

  57. A completely unbiased recommendation by RevWaldo · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.democracynow.org/pages/election2008

    Democracy Now! will be doing a special five-hour broadcast on November 4th from 07:00PM - 12:00AM ET to bring you the 2008 election results as they come in.
    The program will include live coverage of the results as the polls close, on-the-ground reports from across the country, reactions from across the globe, and running in-depth analysis and commentary from a wide range of guests you won't get anywhere else.
    On November 5th, the morning after, Democracy Now! expands to a two-hour broadcast from 08:00AM - 10:00AM ET to provide complete coverage of the election outcome.
    Please contact your local radio or TV station for local listings. There will also be a live video and audio stream of the show on our homepage at democracynow.org.

    1. Re:A completely unbiased recommendation by Boawk · · Score: 1

      Re:A completely unbiased recommendation

      This should be marked "Funny", not "Interesting":
      bash$ whois democracynow.org
      ...
      Registrant Name:Amy Goodman

      (google the name...third link:)
      Amy Goodman, one of four journalists arrested at an anti-RNC...

  58. Re:WGAS! by name*censored* · · Score: 1

    Punch '08! Don't vote Judy, she'll let terrorist criminal communists attack your babies, and will further destroy the economy! She even OPPOSES scub!

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  59. Get a life by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    No matter how the election turns out, you need a life. Washington D.C. is certainly NOT the center of the universe. A couple of feeds on your iGoogle page is all anyone should need...... Go to bed early, so that the day AFTER voting closes, you can get up early with a fresh mind to see how things stand.

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    "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
  60. knock yourself out by opencity · · Score: 1

    Ignore the posts telling you to 'get a life' etc ...
    Why not hook up all the gadgets? It's once every 4 years. If you like politics this is the world cup, only people will really live and die because of the outcome. Info overload can be fun.

    I'll have PBS on in the background while I get some work done. Unless there's gunfire in Ohio in which case I'll rush out to buy emergency supplies (read: bottle of Jameson)

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    Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.
  61. I'll be doing much the same by treebeard77 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'll admit I'm a bleeding heart liberal political junkie.

    on TV I'll be mostly MSNBC & PBS along with Daily Show/Colbert Report, CNN, and Current ( Al Gore's news channel )

    on the net:

    try DIGG's US Elections 2008 tabs both popular and upcoming.

    pollster.com - http://www.pollster.com/ - is a good aggregater of polls it's what the TV guys use

    Hufington post updates/changes frequently and has lots of videos http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

    a news tab on igoogle with lots of feeds is good to have in another of your firefox tabs ( BBC, newspapers, TV channel websites, tec. )

    I like Salon http://www.salon.com/?source=refresh ( I have a long time premium account ) - it updates a lot, but not as fast as huffington

    This is a major, important election, I'll be watching on the HD big screen with friends. laptop atop my lap. I'll probably redo my "favotires" settings for the night.

  62. You Need to Get Out More by eyendall · · Score: 1

    I strongly urge you to get out more. Meet people. Get a date.

  63. glass houses, stones, and all that by misanthrope101 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But the smugness of the Left is fairly sickening. I don't recall the whacky Right being that smug last election when Bush won somewhat comfortably.

    Then you have selective memory. I'm not blaming you, per se, nor am I saying that this is a right-wing phenomenon. People seem to have an inability to see their own faults, or those of those in their group, compared to faults of those who are less like them. To see right-wingers who consider themselves the only REAL patriots, the only REAL Christians, and the only REAL Republicans accuse others of smugness and hubris always serves to raise my eyebrows a bit. I see this stuff every single day, and I'm not all that leftish. If you don't think that Coulter and Limbaugh count as smug, you might want to have your meter re-calibrated.

    The problem is, in any population of any size, you're going to have idiots, jerks, charlatans, attention whores, etc. This applies to all factions, groups, subcultures, religions, political groups, everything. Human frailty and evil runs pretty evenly across the gamut. But we have a tendency to take these normal outliers to be the norm when it comes to groups to which we don't belong, while we're blind to the same types of individuals in our own group. It's a pretty sad phenomenon.

    1. Re:glass houses, stones, and all that by Neoprofin · · Score: 1

      No, I voted for Obama and I still think the left is being a bunch of smug pricks about the whole thing, and have been since early in the primaries. I've gone so far as to say that I'd feel even better voting for him if so many self righteous liberals weren't.

      I voted for him because I think he's a better candidate not, as it seems like in many cases, to feel special about myself.

  64. Suggestion... by denzacar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't want to get into these fights, but the Video the Vote folks have buried their CYA "please ask the poll workers" stuff in the middle of huge blocks of text that no one's likely to read, so I'm not optimistic.

    - Go to http://videothevote.org/resources and get the .pdf or .html version of the "Guidelines for Election Day Conduct" text.
    - Print it out like you would a poster-flyer on a single sheet of paper, with "Video the Vote" clearly visible.
    - Then take the sections 3 (Get Permission before You Film) and 8 (Enter Polls with Authorization), enlarge them (a photocopy machine and some cutting/pasting tools should do) and stick them right next to the full text.
    - Copy the entire set (both texts) on colored paper (you can do the red-white-blue version if you feel like it) and place them at the locations where they are easily noticeable.
    - Also, have a printout of the law you mentioned earlier, that regulates filming/photo rules at the poles.

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  65. Here's an idea by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

    How about just vote, then forget about it until later in the evening or the following day when the winners are announced. Unless you're working the polling places or on voter turnout initiatives there's nothing you can do but vote to affect the outcome, so why obsess about it?

  66. Real-time election results for busy people? by elronxenu · · Score: 1

    Is there any kind of minimalist election result feed which will inform of only the states as they're officially called and the final result? For example twitter or IM.

    I don't want to spend hours watching it on TV, but I do want to know the results as they're called.

  67. Read the news on November 5th by tarogue · · Score: 1

    And then blow up parliament.

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  68. A cry for help by AlpineR · · Score: 1

    The submitter is in a mentally precarious state. If he is sincerely this interested in a flood of realtime election coverage, then I pity the state he will be in when the election is over. Maybe we should be advising him on how to break his election news addiction. Or lead him to a safe alternative so he can continue to fixate on something else when it's over.

    Or, here are two alternative interpretations of his question: 1) He's a reporter for some news outlet and wants to be the second to break any big story. 2) He's a daytrader in Asia and getting the scoop a few minutes early could be worth a lot of money.

  69. What we need by jav1231 · · Score: 1

    What we need are tips to AVOIDING election coverage. This year is going to suck either way. I'm thinking drunken stupor!

  70. Ugly responses by Stiletto · · Score: 1

    Jeez, people! So many negative responses. "Ha! Ha! Get a life and go outside!!" Real constructive, real classy, guys.

    The article submitter is clearly passionate about the election, probably has gathered lots of feeds already, and wants to know if anyone has any he/she hasn't thought of. This person has probably been following the election headline by headline for the past several months, and is very excited about it. Way to rain on his/her parade!

    Just because you're passionate about something different, or, likely not passionate about anything at all, doesn't give you the right to shit all over someone who is.

    1. Re:Ugly responses by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Way to rain on his/her parade!

      Some parades were meant to be rained on. Do you really believe that every parade should have sunny skies and record attendance? Even those of Illinois Nazis?

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  71. don't forget viagra and lube by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

    Everytime they announce a state in the Obama column, I'm going to jack it. And, of course, I'll be jacking it during his victory speech. He'll probably win 45 or 46 states (2012 will be a 50 state blowout), so that's a lot of masturbating!

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    These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

  72. In 2004, we didn't vote for Bush gladly... by Xenographic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > I don't recall the whacky Right being that smug last election when Bush won somewhat comfortably.

    Actually, I was on the other side of the fence in 2004 and there was nothing to cheer about. Nobody was happy about Bush, they were just glad he wasn't Kerry. Though damn, I wish I had that vote back. He was elected to fix his own mess, not make more of them.

    Anyhow, with Obama, I'm *glad* to vote for him. I've supported him since the primaries. True, I've gone from thinking that McCain would be an okay president to being eager to campaign against McCain in 2010 (I live in AZ), but that's not why I support Obama.

    Look, I voted for Bush. Twice. It was a mistake. But I've never once been so eager to see my own party lose. And I want to see them lose in the worst possible way. So yeah. Maybe I'll watch Fox. Because I know the Republican party is out of control and needs to be put out of its misery.

    I may be a Republican, but after what they've done to this country, I'm going to be first in line to dance on the Republican party's grave.

  73. offline on election night - no tv, no internet... by hucke · · Score: 1

    I'll be at Grant Park next Tuesday night, so I expect to learn the election results direct from Senator Obama's mouth to my ears (albeit through a series of loudspeakers mounted above the stage, most likely).

    The mood of the crowd will be an indicator of how things are going early in the process, with cheers for each state where Democrats are victorious, and sadness whenever a state goes red.

  74. Erris, Gnutoo, Mactrope, Westbake by tepples · · Score: 1

    This article is the 4th in 5 days that has been posted purely as viral marketing for twitter.

    Would you rather have 4 stories in 5 days posted purely as viral marketing for the other side?

  75. Re:Bravo! Very sensible advice! by VJ42 · · Score: 1

    Here in my home state(Oklahoma, USA), third party/independents have to get a minimum number of signatures on a petition (IIRC 50,000) to be included on the ballot-write-ins not allowed, as they are marked invalid*, or not counted*.

    It works like this here in the UK, basically anyone* (the form only needs the signature of 10 (ten) eligible voters from your constituency) who can afford the £500 deposit can stand for election to the commons. It's even easier to stand at local elections (IIRC no deposit is needed)

    *British Citizens over 18, and not in one of these categories.

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  76. Re:Dude.... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    I think he should just start beating his head against the wall repeatedly, it's a much more efficient means of self torture.
    Plus it feels so good when you stop.

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    If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
  77. That's a best case scenario by WindShadow · · Score: 1

    When I wake up on Wednesday morning, my fervent hopes are that this election is a blowout and will not have to be decided again by the courts.

    Actually there's worse case, imagine Bob Barr and Ralph Nader getting just a few votes, and Maine splitting, so each major candidate get less than 270. That throws the election into the House of Representatives. Biggest circus since they closed the Colosseum!

  78. Advice to the anonymous reader by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    Chill. What will you do if you get vote-by-vote coverage of every precinct of every county in every state? Your head will explode. I will probably watch CNN and tune to FOX News every so often, and maybe check a few websites if I get bored, until I get tired and decide to go to bed. Seriously, I am not a CNN fanboy, but they do a pretty good job of reporting (whether or not you think they are biased). The TV networks will be all over this election, so this is one event for which we probably won't have to look too hard to find every bit of information we desire, and more. Three of my four computers and my Palm Treo will basically be resting this time, and I think your electronic goodies will forgive you if you enjoy the suspense from the couch too.

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    1. Re:Advice to the anonymous reader by uncledrax · · Score: 1

      I concur.

      Why don't people just mind their business for a night or two and wake up and find out who the president is?

      What good is there to watch the play by play on the election? Every time I've done it's resulted in network news "predicting" election outcomes; in Florida this is significant because part of the state is in another time zone (thus polls close in the majority of the state before they close in the rest). Sure, it may or may not affect the ballots cast by the other part of the state; but my point is that I'm getting fed up with news networks 'predicting' people winning.

      The last 2 presidential elections really really catered to the craziness that happens because of this.

      And even if you do hear about someone twittering that they didn't get a sharp No2 pencil to vote with, why do you care, and what are you going to do about it?
      If people were really concerned about 'election day fairness' maybe they should become poll workers themselves?

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  79. I'll be watching MSNBC by bobobobo · · Score: 1

    And watching Olbermann give us television's first on air stroke, when Mccain wins by landslide.