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Bill Joy For New National CTO Post?

jddeluxe writes "In an article in today's NY Times, John Doerr of Kleiner-Perkins proffered up Bill Joy's name when queried by Barack Obama for a recommendation for the position of Chief Technology Officer of the Unites States which Obama has promised to create and that the country is overdue to have. I think that's a brilliant idea, and while you're at it, have the FCC report to him as well, why don't you?" If Bill is unavailable, I'll throw my hat in the ring, although I'm holding out for Secretary of Tubes.

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  1. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While Stallman would make an excellent adviser to the National CTO, he's too much of a "Throw the baby out with the bathwater" kind of guy. While I agree with RMS most of the time, that kind of personality doesn't last long in US politics.

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  2. Bill Joy's terrorist connection by pHatidic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the Republicans went crazy over Obama's friendship with Bill Ayers, just wait until they find out what Bill Joy said about Ted Kaczynski (the unibomber) in Wired.

    1. Re:Bill Joy's terrorist connection by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're assuming that the context will be presented, or matter. Clearly, you've not paid attention the last few years.

  3. About time by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't it time we had someone in charge of evaluating new technologies who actually KNOWS how computers work, rather than having to refer to the opinions of out of touch people who still struggle with their VCR flashing 12:00 over and over since 1986?

    1. Re:About time by Bearhouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, a lot of the younger politicos would probably struggle with VCRs, since all they ever knew was iPod or TIVO. Makes them smart rather than dumb, in my opinion, (VCRs used to be a bitch to program).

      Do we really need people who know how things work 'under the hood' to make smart tech decisions? Or do we need smart people with vision, who then consult with or employ the right people? Not sure that Kennedy knew how the rockets worked, but he got people to the moon just the same.

      Now get off my lawn.

    2. Re:About time by Xtravar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Anyone who can't program a VCR probably can't program much else, nor follows instructions very well. I agree with the OP.

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    3. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The simple answer is BOTH. We've got 300 million people, surely we can find a few who have a reasonable amount of both technical competency and vision. One without the other to balance it is worse than useless.

  4. No need by Kohath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We don't need a national CTO. We can make our own technology decisions without the government telling us what to do.

    1. Re:No need by Deton8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Amen, brother. How about a national "Chief Keep the Fucking Government the Hell Out of our Way Officer"?

    2. Re:No need by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, because that approach has worked so well with the financial industry.

    3. Re:No need by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You dolt.

      The government has millions of computers, and you don't want someone to set policy? Look at what the mindless, out of control, dead in a ditch projects have cost us.

      They're not setting policy FOR YOU, nitwit-- for the government. DO what you want. Let someone put reason into executive branch decision making in government IT!!

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    4. Re:No need by visualight · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Paying attention? The unregulated market brought us the Great Depression 70 years ago and until Bush the markets stayed regulated. The _recent_ deregulation is why we're in the mess we're in now.

      There's no way you don't already realize this, I'm not sure why you posted what you did.

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    5. Re:No need by visualight · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bullshit. The people making these qualified loans knew full well that they were likely to default, they didn't care because they also knew the loans would be bundled and sold.

      NO ONE and NO LAW forced these people to make those loans.

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  5. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This thread points out the problem of anointing one person as CTO. Hate to say it but this is one of those things that might do better with a board, not a leader. That is to say that while there may be a judge, it's the jury that counts. Using one man is not enough, even the SCOTUS has nine. When it's important enough to do something, it's important enough to do it right. RMS should probably be on the jury, along with other notable technology evangelists.

  6. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think RMS would even take it. Being in government requires adherence to a set of principles that many people end up finding reduces their ability to be principled. As an example, RMS would be required to back, in public, copyright law policies that he in private would vehemently disagree with. I just don't see RMS doing that, he's too much of a man of principle.

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  7. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Alomex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just don't see RMS doing that, he's too much of a man of principle.

    It goes beyond that. Certain people define themselves as opposition, as being not-the-man, and as such are uncomfortable in any position of authority, even if their principles were in no way being challenged.

    These people serve a valuable role in society, but it is not within the corridors of power.

  8. Re:While we're at it by orclevegam · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bruce Schneier perhaps?

    Nah, put him in charge of Homeland Security... then in 6 months when he dissolves it as "redundant and ineffectual" transfer him to the NSA working on crypto and shoring up our technology infrastructure. Could also put him in charge of the TSA for a bit to help streamline that down to something sane like it used to be and eliminate all the security theater.

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  9. Re:I'd rather see someone involved in Free Softwar by Jeff+Hornby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know how to break this to you but the position of National CTO isn't quite as important as the role of SCOTUS. Upholding the laws and constitutional freedoms of the citizenry is much more important than what IM client government employees wil be allowed to use.

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  10. Re:What the CTO needs... by MosesJones · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the first things that should be done is to mandate equal consideration for .NET and LAMP because Java has way too much of a fanboi following in the federal government.

    Of course the fact that the federal government has done research that finds that reducing the number of languages reduces costs has nothing to do with them preferring to pick a single standards based, multi-vendor approach. Nope its because they are "Fanboys" and that stuff in the military drones would be better done in LAMP than in Java...

    Federal Government uses LOADS of different technologies most of them are in the heavy lifting space rather than being about LAMP type areas (LAMP for Air Traffic Control?).

    Ah but you are just talking about websites, which is a single part of the estate and are of course not thinking at all about support and maintenance across thousands of sites and the advantage of having a limited set of technologies would bring in enabling more cross government sharing.

    Nope you just want to see your favourite technology being used.

    Personally I'd like to see the CTO take a machete to the costs of IT in federal government, OSS would be part of that but consistency would be the major element.

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  11. Re:vi by pottymouth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes it's funny but it's funny because of the hint of truth. Which is exactly why you do not want a CTO at a government level. How easy is it to corrupt government officials? How many of them are idiots (ever heard Nancy Pelosi speak, wow... just, wow...)? Sure Bill Joy would be great but what if next election you get Bill Gates? Or Steve F'in Balmer? How about MS Windows being mandated for all government work because of ? How about letting the free market (no, not an MS monopoly that is, despite stories to the contrary, slowly slipping away...) decide what works best rather than some government appointee with an agenda (or a greedy streak).

    At worst deal with it at the state level so you can at least move if you don't like the way things are going.

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