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Stephen Hawking Going To Canada

thepacketmaster writes "A previous Slashdot article I posted mentioned the possibility of Stephen Hawking coming to Canada. The Toronto Star now reports that he has accepted the position. Hawking will hold the title of distinguished research chair at the prestigious Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics."

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  1. Canada? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Never heard of it.

  2. Distinguished research chair? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good, he's probably due for an upgrade.

    1. Re:Distinguished research chair? by owlnation · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if they can change his voice synthesizer to pronounce "out" and "about" as "oot" and aboot," and of course add in a few random eh's for good measure.

    2. Re:Distinguished research chair? by Internalist · · Score: 2, Informative

      *grumble*

      <disgruntled linguist>
      Moreover...

      (1) "oot and aboot" is NOT what Canadian Raising sounds like (nor "oat in a boat")...the vowel in "oot" is high and back, whereas the vowel in Canadian Raised "out" is (well, technically starts, since it's a diphthong) mid-high and central (like the vowel in "cut")

      (2) Most Canadians don't speak that way

      (3) A fair chunk of people in the US speak that way

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    3. Re:Distinguished research chair? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 5, Informative

      That is very true. You have to move away for a while to hear it. I moved to the mid-west for close to eight years and was teased about the 'aboot' until the local accent wore it away. When I moved back to Canada I realized what I was being teased about when I could hear it all around me. I also thought the 'yaw yaw' (yes yes) in the movie 'Fargo' was an over the top caricature of the accent in northern Minnesota until I visited southern Manitoba again a while ago and heard two waitresses in my hotel talking and saying "yaw yaw, I know wot chya mean." Having lived there for a while too, I'm sure I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't left. I do have to say that the thing that kind of pissed me off is when Americans found out I'm from Canada they would insist on saying, "so you're from Canada AY!" No-one could say "eh" at the end of the sentence correctly [big grin]. Come on guys, you force it too hard... it has to just roll off at the end matter of factly... you can't force it. Now, if you get to Missouri take a drive down highway Farty Far. ha!

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    4. Re:Distinguished research chair? by canajin56 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe on the east coast but that's a relatively small number of Canadians. Here in Ontario we say it like normal.

      What part of Ontario are you from? Because I say "about" like about, not like normal!

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  3. Great news. by liquidMONKEY · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least if he ever gives lectures and they start to fall asleep, he can shoot lasers out of his eyeballs.

  4. Congratulations by Philomathie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish him all the best, and hope he can still make more great contributions to theoretical physics. He is an example for us all.

  5. sacred cow killing! by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

    I seem to recall that he did a lot of research into black holes. Maybe he's done studying now and is leaving the country so he can get outside the event horizon to publish his findings.

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    1. Re:sacred cow killing! by VirusEqualsVeryYes · · Score: 5, Funny

      I seem to recall that he did a lot of research into black holes. Maybe he's done studying now and is leaving the country so he can get outside the event horizon to publish his findings.

      Yes, perhaps he could teach you a thing or two about them. ;)

    2. Re:sacred cow killing! by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, Hawking did suggest that anything at the event horizon would generate anti-matter of an equivalent mass... So the real Hawking could emerge, but not without sending an anti-hawking back. We can test this theory by waiting for the anti-Hawking to run for public office.

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    3. Re:sacred cow killing! by mybecq · · Score: 4, Funny

      I seem to recall that he did a lot of research into black holes. Maybe he's done studying now and is leaving the country so he can get outside the event horizon to publish his findings.

      Yes, perhaps he could teach you a thing or two about them. ;)

      I heard that he has some special technique for getting out ...

    4. Re:sacred cow killing! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is the first proof that the Hawking radiation actually exists. Perhaps it will not be long before Britain starts radiating Hawkings into every country! We could surely use one or two here.

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  6. Someone sent us up the brain! by HRbnjR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's kind of ironic in that Canada has historically had a problem with what we call the "brain drain", where students graduate and leave for the US or overseas for higher paying jobs. Nice to see us on the other end of that for once!

    1. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's apparently a bit of a myth. There is (or was) a slight tendency for recent, young graduates to run off to the US lured by promises of the big bucks. Most of them (plus others) come back though, after they start to add up what educating their kids and keeping themselves healthy will cost. Those two factors tend to wipe out any tax advantages there might be.

    2. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by compro01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to mention at the high end of the income spectrum (~350k+), US taxes can (depending on which states/provinces and municipalities we're comparing) actually be higher than they are in Canada, in addition to the not-provided-by-the-government stuff you mention.

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    3. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by j-beda · · Score: 2
      Where did you find that? This place http://www.investmentexecutive.com/client/en/News/DetailNews.asp?id=46992&IdSection=3&cat=3&BImageCI=1 seems to indicate that Canada's rate is a bit higher than the US for high income people.

      According to http://www.aurorainternational.net/Maximum_Personal_Marginal_Income_Tax_Rates.htm the top federal rate is 29% plus the provincial rate giving a range of 39% (Alberta) to 53% in Quebec. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_bracket indicates the top federal rate in the USA is 35% with up to about 5% for some state income taxes as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_income_tax, so it looks like they are within spitting distance of each other only in the case of Alberta - all the others are a bit higher in Canada.

      This says nothing about sales taxes, of which there is a federal 5% GST in Canada, plus about 8% in most provinces (excepting Alberta) for a total of about 13% - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada.

      In comparison, it looks like most places in the US have lower sales taxes that Canada, but some are pretty close - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States

    4. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Alomex · · Score: 4, Informative

      The tax rate is way higher in California than in Canada. Sure, when you look at percentages alone it seems to be the other way around, but for a few measly more points Canadians get free health care, decent and safe free public schools, much higher welfare and unemployment insurance benefits, lower tuition fees at the University level and public infrastructure that isn't crumbling.

      The way I see it, Californians are getting royally screwed.

    5. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Medgur · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We don't spend nearly as much on military.

    6. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by celtic_hackr · · Score: 3, Funny

      The way I see it is Canadians have a very severe lack of easily available guns. I think we should deport the Michigan Militia to Canada, so they can bring their public schools up to American standards.

      Alas, until the Californians put an Austrian in the Governor's chair, college was free in California. Still, if Palin get elected in 2012, I'm heading for Canada.

    7. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by abigor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, guns are very available in Canada. I believe we even have a per capita gun ownership that exceeds that of the US, though I'm not positive on that. Regardless, there's just some cultural difference that prevents us from killing each other the way you guys do, although there are gun deaths, don't get me wrong.

    8. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by tony1343 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_countries_by_gun_ownership. Per 100 people, the United States has 90 guns. Canada has 31.5. All I can say to that is, "weak." France and Finland are beating you (which I wouldn't have expected). Switzerland up there doesn't surprise me though.

      Not sure why the U.S. is so ridiculously high. I guess a better statistic would be the percentage of people who own guns. I'm pretty sure a lot of people who buys guns buy a lot of them.

      Now check out fire-arm related deaths at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate. Man, the U.S. is awesome. I've never felt more proud to be an American.

    9. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Vexorg_q · · Score: 3, Informative

      The taxes may be higher in Canada, and it is true that healthcare and education costs are lower. However, as an American who goes to university (McGill) in Canada, I can tell you that its far from being a socialist paradise.

      You say that infrastructure is crumbling in California, and I think you are probably right (I've only been to California a couple of times). But on the other hand, it is too in Quebec, which has had a spate of lethal collapses in the last couple of years (this being the most recent). Last year a bridge collapsed and killed a person on a busy highway, and the same thing happened several years before that. This spring, a major elevated concrete highway interchange in Montreal (the Turcot Interchange) was closed after the authorities discovered a 1m (!!) deep pothole IN THE BRIDGE. Canadians like to blame the weather, but having grown up in New England, where we get all the same weather, I can assure you that our bridges are not collapsing.

      Sure the healthcare is free, and everyone has access, but I'll tell you, having to wait 4 hours to see a doctor (as I have done many times) really sucks.

      The public high schools are sufficient, but are not by any means greatly superior to americans. 50% dropout rates are commonplace in many places and years of price freezes on tuition has greatly hindered the ability of universities to fund their students (everything from research to maintenance of buildings has been cut for the last 5 years at my university). Many of the cuts would be unheard of at an American university. My first year undergrad chemistry class was 1500 students.

      To be fair, Canada does a lot of things better than the United States. And we do things better than Canada, although I think we could both learn from each other, and I don't mean to repudiate social democracy or universal healthcare. These are certainly things we could use in the US. But to say that Californians are "royally screwed" is uninformed - Canadians are plenty screwed in other ways (that you take for granted in the states).

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    10. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by YourExperiment · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not sure what this says about Taiwan, but the figures seem to suggest that almost as many people die there as a result of accidents with guns as are killed in firearm-related homicides.

      Of course, their total firearm homicide per capita rate is less than 1/20th of that in the United States, so perhaps the figures just show that no-one in Taiwan is quite sure how to use a gun.

    11. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Bearhouse · · Score: 2, Informative

      Somewhat offtopic, but the Swiss have lots of guns because most adult males are obliged - as part of military sevice - to have one at home.
      Unlike the US, when they misuse them, it's to kill themselves, not other people.

  7. Re:Too bad.. by Emperor+Zombie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just hope its not to kill him. But that's the word on the street.

    The word on what street? Crazy Street?

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  8. Hawking radiation by Veggiesama · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's probably moving there to study the event horizon surrounding a certain black hole, otherwise known as the US financial market.

    We poured over $700 billion into it, and I doubt even he will discover Hawking radiation leaking out. Maybe a few nickels, but that's it.

    1. Re:Hawking radiation by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

      We poured over $700 billion into it, and I doubt even he will discover Hawking radiation leaking out. Maybe a few nickels, but that's it.

      That's because the black hole is surrounded by a large cloud of Administratium, which absorbs any spare change that might escape.

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    2. Re:Hawking radiation by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Funny
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  9. Re:He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneou by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I see a flaw in your logic... See, crossing the US/Canada border *is* the event horizon. At that point hawking will split into a finite number of hawkings will cross the event horizon, while an equal number of anti-hawkings will stay inside. I'm guessing they'll head to Ohio as soon as they figure out their better halves are sitting down for tea.

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  10. Meh by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Funny

    We don't need him in the U.S.A. The world ends in four years and a month anyway.

    1. Re:Meh by stephenhawking · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would never move to America anyway, too many creationists.

    2. Re:Meh by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is that due to the Mayan Calendar, or the Palin Presidency?

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  11. A new chair by clarkkent09 · · Score: 5, Funny

    distinguished research chair at the prestigious Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics.

    I don't know, a research chair sounds a bit dangerous, however distinguished it may be. I think he better stick with his current chair until this new one is at least in beta testing...

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    1. Re:A new chair by g2devi · · Score: 4, Funny

      More dangerous than you think.

      Microsoft has traditionally hired heavily from Waterloo, (e.g. http://blogs.pulver.com/jarnold/archives/2005/11/google_gets_ano.html ).

      What do you think when Steve "the chair tosser" Ballmer meets up with Stephen Hawking in his new position as Research Chair?

  12. Re:Too bad.. by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Our plan is to give him free health care and poutine, and see which one wins.

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  13. $speak_text = $speak_text.' eh?'; by mcalwell · · Score: 3, Funny

    $speak_text = $speak_text.' eh?';

  14. He's still not moving to Canada by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to the article - it's a 'visiting Chair', and he will make regular visits to Waterloo, ON.

    In other words, he's getting a big paycheque for attaching his name to the institute and will make the minimal number of personal appearances to make it look legit.

    1. Re:He's still not moving to Canada by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe future Blackberries will start talking to you in an interesting new voice.

  15. Re:Serious question by Shados · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's actually starting to have trouble communicating, as the movements he used for it back then (blinking I think?) are starting to become harder. He's still productive, but not as much as he used to, and probably not for very long.

  16. Re:He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneou by JanneM · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...a finite number of hawkings will cross the event horizon, while an equal number of anti-hawkings will stay inside."

    And they'll be easily distinguishable as the anti-Hawkings are all evil and have goatees.

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  17. Re:Serious question by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Never underestimate the disabled. While his body fails, his brain is in tip top shape. He is brave for continuing on with a disease that tears his body apart.

    He still has a good 10 to 20 years.

    I myself am disabled, and people underestimate me as well. I have physical and mental illnesses that are tearing apart my body and mind, but I continue on myself. I understand a bit of what Hawking is going through. But not all of it. I am not as advanced in my disease as Hawking is in his. I use computers to communicate with the world, because I lack proper social skills and communication skills and cannot speak them verbally, but I am better using a computer to communicate for me.

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  18. Re:Just before World War II, Einstein left.. by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is something that happened 60+ years ago an ominous sign today?
    Not especially, unless you're peddling paranoia.

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  19. A few quotes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "In conclusion, I understand nothing about the anomaly, even after cashing the huge check I got for writing a book about it."
    - Stephen Hawking, Futurama

    "We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."
    - Stephen Hawking

    More funny and insightful quotes here:
    http://www.quoteaddict.com/

  20. Re:Serious question by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The question isn't a slam on the disabled - it's my understanding (not refreshed with a recent Googling or a Wikipedia visit) that it's extremely unusual to live far into your thirties when you have motor neuron disease.

    Of course, those lifespan estimates have probably been climbing due to improved medicine since his original diagnosis regardless of anything unique to Stephen Hawking's particular progression.

  21. Watch Out, Canada! by sk999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hawking has a wicked sense of humor and will pull practical jokes. Many years ago I watched him skewer Caltech professor Kip Thorne just as he (KT) was about to begin a seminar. It was one of those "you had to be there to appreciate it" moments, but it was hilarious - the whole audience was laughing. Not bad for someone who, even then, could do little more than activate his motorized wheelchair. A sense of timing does wonders.

    1. Re:Watch Out, Canada! by Prodigy+Savant · · Score: 2, Insightful

      more details on the practical joke, please!

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  22. Re:Serious question by g0at · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unfitter, unhappier, less productive?

  23. Anyone up for his old job? by Macblaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A vacancy has just opened up. Apply by December 15.

  24. Perimeter = RIM? by That.7O's.Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Q: What's a synonym for Perimeter?
    A: Rim, or more appropriately, RIM (Research In Motion)

    Not sure if it's already mentioned in the comments, but the Perimeter Institute was founded, and is primarily funded, by Mike Lazaridus, Co-CEO of RIM and Chancellor of the University of Waterloo.

    I wonder if Dr. Hawking will be getting a free Blackberry? (I guess he'll have to design an interface as his first task at Perimeter.)

  25. One Upside To This Situation by Revotron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, at least now the phrase "Slower than Steven Hawking in a snowstorm" might actually have some basis in fact.

  26. Somebody had to say it by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nima Arkadi-Hamed, who currently occupies the chair previously held by Hawking

    Do you mean the University post, or the one with wheels and an electric motor?

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  27. Rifles != Pistols by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a HUGE difference between a hunting rifle and an automatic pistol. Try to conceal one.

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  28. As a UW Student.... by mcgee_11 · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a UW Student in their Faculty of Mathematics, I would like to just say that I think it's wondering that UW is attracting such well known people. We have many ties with a variety of people and establishments around the world! This is just an example of how to bring the top people in the field together to help each other out and reap some very large benefits. I do not think this is a bad thing at all. Hawking is the first of 40 people that PI wishes to invite over to the Waterloo area. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081127.whawking1127/BNStory/National/home?cid=al_gam_mostview

  29. Re:Serious question by canajin56 · · Score: 2, Informative

    When he was diagnosed in 1963, he was given 2 to 3 years to live.

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