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Stephen Hawking Going To Canada

thepacketmaster writes "A previous Slashdot article I posted mentioned the possibility of Stephen Hawking coming to Canada. The Toronto Star now reports that he has accepted the position. Hawking will hold the title of distinguished research chair at the prestigious Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics."

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  1. Canada? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Never heard of it.

    1. Re:Canada? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Never heard of it.

      That's pretty common, anyone can miss Canada ... all tucked away down there ...

    2. Re:Canada? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on mods. I laughed. ;)

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    3. Re:Canada? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1, Funny

      all tucked away down there

      In your pants? Is that what you call it?

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    4. Re:Canada? by dontmakemethink · · Score: 1, Funny

      Mod -1 flamebait, mod +1 impossible to retort without being modded -1 flamebait.

      Hoser.

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    5. Re:Canada? by dafradu · · Score: 1

      You haven't? Thats where all dark matter comes from!

    6. Re:Canada? by Dretep · · Score: 1

      Don't forget about all the lumber Canada exported to allow the US to build their crumbling economy, eh?

  2. Distinguished research chair? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good, he's probably due for an upgrade.

    1. Re:Distinguished research chair? by owlnation · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if they can change his voice synthesizer to pronounce "out" and "about" as "oot" and aboot," and of course add in a few random eh's for good measure.

    2. Re:Distinguished research chair? by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

      Maybe he'll finally meet his soulmate? I heard Davros had moved to Canada as well to get away from Dr. Who. :)

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    3. Re:Distinguished research chair? by Ostsol · · Score: 1

      The only time I ever heard someone pronounce it "aboot" (here in Edmonton) was from a first aid instructor from Nova Scotia.

    4. Re:Distinguished research chair? by compro01 · · Score: 1

      It's called Canadian raising and if you speak in that manner, you don't notice it.

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    5. Re:Distinguished research chair? by Zwicky · · Score: 1

      Canadian pronunciation of 'about' is noticeably different but it's definitely not the same as the Scottish 'aboot'. As parent says Irish is different still.

      Hoots man, there's joose loose aboot this hoose.

      And here's a man who throws his opinions into the ring. He's wearing a hat. He knows what he's talking aboot^H^Hut.

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    6. Re:Distinguished research chair? by Internalist · · Score: 2, Informative

      *grumble*

      <disgruntled linguist>
      Moreover...

      (1) "oot and aboot" is NOT what Canadian Raising sounds like (nor "oat in a boat")...the vowel in "oot" is high and back, whereas the vowel in Canadian Raised "out" is (well, technically starts, since it's a diphthong) mid-high and central (like the vowel in "cut")

      (2) Most Canadians don't speak that way

      (3) A fair chunk of people in the US speak that way

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    7. Re:Distinguished research chair? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      It is a typo, of course. It should have read "distinguished research wheelchair".* He still has a bright future, he might even become their wheelchairman! That is, unless they elect a wheelchairwoman. (* I respect him greatly, and I am sure he would not be offended by this silly joke, he is too intelligent for that.)

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    8. Re:Distinguished research chair? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 5, Informative

      That is very true. You have to move away for a while to hear it. I moved to the mid-west for close to eight years and was teased about the 'aboot' until the local accent wore it away. When I moved back to Canada I realized what I was being teased about when I could hear it all around me. I also thought the 'yaw yaw' (yes yes) in the movie 'Fargo' was an over the top caricature of the accent in northern Minnesota until I visited southern Manitoba again a while ago and heard two waitresses in my hotel talking and saying "yaw yaw, I know wot chya mean." Having lived there for a while too, I'm sure I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't left. I do have to say that the thing that kind of pissed me off is when Americans found out I'm from Canada they would insist on saying, "so you're from Canada AY!" No-one could say "eh" at the end of the sentence correctly [big grin]. Come on guys, you force it too hard... it has to just roll off at the end matter of factly... you can't force it. Now, if you get to Missouri take a drive down highway Farty Far. ha!

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    9. Re:Distinguished research chair? by jasonh1234 · · Score: 1

      No they just take out the "Y'all" from his dictionary.

    10. Re:Distinguished research chair? by rubypossum · · Score: 1

      I'm from Missouri (and happen to speak the St. Louis variation of the Bostonian dialect) and we don't say farty far, you insensitive clod! It sounds more like "forty far". Which you drive down to get your warsher, from tha super Wal-Marts. Of course, you can listen to the dialect yourself.

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    11. Re:Distinguished research chair? by Ostsol · · Score: 1

      I don't speak like that and no one around me does, either -- unless they're joking around. I may pronounce some words in the manner indicated by that article, but at the very least I do not include the infamous "aboot". It's a regional thing and Canada is a very large "region" to try and apply it to.
      Y'all understand me? :p

    12. Re:Distinguished research chair? by yabos · · Score: 1

      Maybe on the east coast but that's a relatively small number of Canadians. Here in Ontario we say it like normal.

    13. Re:Distinguished research chair? by danieltdp · · Score: 1

      Thas not necessary. After a couple o years, Hawking will pick up the accent by himself.

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    14. Re:Distinguished research chair? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they can change his voice synthesizer to pronounce "out" and "about" as "oot" and aboot," and of course add in a few random eh's for good measure.

      I realize you're joking, but you do realize you're talking about regional pronunciation, right?

      I mean, we don't judge the US based on how people from Maine or Wisconsin speak -- Maine and New England, for instance, seem to have an aversion to enunciating the letter R, "Bah Hahbah" is how Bar Harbour sounds to anyone from not in Maine.

      I've noticed different ways of speaking from the vast majority of regions in the states.

      Besides, "about" is rarely "aboot", but more like "a-boat" for most people.

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    15. Re:Distinguished research chair? by canajin56 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe on the east coast but that's a relatively small number of Canadians. Here in Ontario we say it like normal.

      What part of Ontario are you from? Because I say "about" like about, not like normal!

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    16. Re:Distinguished research chair? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      and we don't say farty far

      LOL... yeah... I usually heard that accent more from guys from the east side. All said, I'd rather be in Saint Louis! ;)

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    17. Re:Distinguished research chair? by Gorshkov · · Score: 1

      Maybe on the east coast but that's a relatively small number of Canadians. Here in Ontario we say it like normal.

      Family from Newfoundland (fodder's a townie from Mundy Pond, mudder's a bayman from Grand Bank), and I grew up in Labrador - and I have NEVER heard anybody in my life say 'aboot' And if a Newfie is unfamiliar with a particular mangling of the english language, then it just doesn't exist.

  3. Great news. by liquidMONKEY · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least if he ever gives lectures and they start to fall asleep, he can shoot lasers out of his eyeballs.

    1. Re:Great news. by rhyder128k · · Score: 1, Troll

      That's a myth about disabled people.

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    2. Re:Great news. by iced_773 · · Score: 1

      It's only a myth?! But...but...I have a disability and I WANT FRICKIN' LASERS, DAMMIT.

    3. Re:Great news. by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      I didn't know he could do that...

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  4. Congratulations by Philomathie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish him all the best, and hope he can still make more great contributions to theoretical physics. He is an example for us all.

    1. Re:Congratulations by popmaker · · Score: 1

      Yes it IS insightful. It's a counterpoint to all the stupid comments above. I wish him good luck too. He deserves it for being a great phycisist.

  5. sacred cow killing! by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

    I seem to recall that he did a lot of research into black holes. Maybe he's done studying now and is leaving the country so he can get outside the event horizon to publish his findings.

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    1. Re:sacred cow killing! by VirusEqualsVeryYes · · Score: 5, Funny

      I seem to recall that he did a lot of research into black holes. Maybe he's done studying now and is leaving the country so he can get outside the event horizon to publish his findings.

      Yes, perhaps he could teach you a thing or two about them. ;)

    2. Re:sacred cow killing! by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, Hawking did suggest that anything at the event horizon would generate anti-matter of an equivalent mass... So the real Hawking could emerge, but not without sending an anti-hawking back. We can test this theory by waiting for the anti-Hawking to run for public office.

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    3. Re:sacred cow killing! by mybecq · · Score: 4, Funny

      I seem to recall that he did a lot of research into black holes. Maybe he's done studying now and is leaving the country so he can get outside the event horizon to publish his findings.

      Yes, perhaps he could teach you a thing or two about them. ;)

      I heard that he has some special technique for getting out ...

    4. Re:sacred cow killing! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is the first proof that the Hawking radiation actually exists. Perhaps it will not be long before Britain starts radiating Hawkings into every country! We could surely use one or two here.

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    5. Re:sacred cow killing! by jimicus · · Score: 1

      We can test this theory by waiting for the anti-Hawking to run for public office.

      Events since 20 January 2001 suggest this has already happened.

    6. Re:sacred cow killing! by dontmakemethink · · Score: 1

      We can test this theory by waiting for the anti-Hawking to run for public office.

      Events since 20 January 2001 suggest this has already happened.

      Such Hawking/Anti-Hawking paradoxes are bound to have temporal and spacial offsets. Word around the campfire is that the ghost of Newton did the Florida recount personally.

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    7. Re:sacred cow killing! by struberg · · Score: 1

      black hole remindes me... http://nichtlustig.de/toondb/081110.html

      (translation: yes I know, I should have informed officials before it eats all our universe, but it's so convenient - don't need to carry down our trash anymore.)

    8. Re:sacred cow killing! by Trillan · · Score: 1

      Anti-Hawking! I shudder at the thought.

      Say, does the theory allow for the Anti-Hawking to have fallen back in before Hawking emerged?

      Just wondering if he's finishing his second term now.

  6. Someone sent us up the brain! by HRbnjR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's kind of ironic in that Canada has historically had a problem with what we call the "brain drain", where students graduate and leave for the US or overseas for higher paying jobs. Nice to see us on the other end of that for once!

    1. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's apparently a bit of a myth. There is (or was) a slight tendency for recent, young graduates to run off to the US lured by promises of the big bucks. Most of them (plus others) come back though, after they start to add up what educating their kids and keeping themselves healthy will cost. Those two factors tend to wipe out any tax advantages there might be.

    2. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by compro01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to mention at the high end of the income spectrum (~350k+), US taxes can (depending on which states/provinces and municipalities we're comparing) actually be higher than they are in Canada, in addition to the not-provided-by-the-government stuff you mention.

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    3. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by MrMista_B · · Score: 1

      Yeah... but, uh, Stephen Hawking isn't *quite* exactly a 'student leaving overseas for a higher paying job', per se.

    4. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by j-beda · · Score: 2
      Where did you find that? This place http://www.investmentexecutive.com/client/en/News/DetailNews.asp?id=46992&IdSection=3&cat=3&BImageCI=1 seems to indicate that Canada's rate is a bit higher than the US for high income people.

      According to http://www.aurorainternational.net/Maximum_Personal_Marginal_Income_Tax_Rates.htm the top federal rate is 29% plus the provincial rate giving a range of 39% (Alberta) to 53% in Quebec. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_bracket indicates the top federal rate in the USA is 35% with up to about 5% for some state income taxes as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_income_tax, so it looks like they are within spitting distance of each other only in the case of Alberta - all the others are a bit higher in Canada.

      This says nothing about sales taxes, of which there is a federal 5% GST in Canada, plus about 8% in most provinces (excepting Alberta) for a total of about 13% - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada.

      In comparison, it looks like most places in the US have lower sales taxes that Canada, but some are pretty close - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States

    5. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Alomex · · Score: 4, Informative

      The tax rate is way higher in California than in Canada. Sure, when you look at percentages alone it seems to be the other way around, but for a few measly more points Canadians get free health care, decent and safe free public schools, much higher welfare and unemployment insurance benefits, lower tuition fees at the University level and public infrastructure that isn't crumbling.

      The way I see it, Californians are getting royally screwed.

    6. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by incognito84 · · Score: 1
      I am Canadian. I live and work in South Korea. The country that used to be one of the poorest in the world is paying me more and treating me better than my home country.

      Canada needs to learn how to not be two-faced. On the one side, Canada is a diverse, safe country with arms wide open to the world. At the same time, if you are born and raised in Canada and go to a Canadian University (say, to obtain a PhD in Physics or even Business Administration), you'll be lucky if you can land anything above minimum wage.

      Nice to hear that we stole Hawking, though.

    7. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by bh_doc · · Score: 1

      Not to mention at the high end of the income spectrum (~350k+)

      An amount which every reasonable young scientist can expect to achieve.

    8. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Tyr_7BE · · Score: 1

      Generally you see people straight out of university duck down to the states, make a quick fortune working their asses off at a high paying job while they're young and healthy and have no kids, and then come home after a few years with a nice chunk of cash saved up. As another poster said, long term the costs of no social services can outweigh the benefits, but when you're young and single you can make a mint.

    9. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Medgur · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We don't spend nearly as much on military.

    10. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by udowish · · Score: 1

      what a complete pile of BS first mistake was getting a phd and then saying hey, I am employable. NOT stay in academia. My 'measly' B.Sc in Engineering is paying me in the 250K range and I am not teaching English in Korea!

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    11. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by celtic_hackr · · Score: 3, Funny

      The way I see it is Canadians have a very severe lack of easily available guns. I think we should deport the Michigan Militia to Canada, so they can bring their public schools up to American standards.

      Alas, until the Californians put an Austrian in the Governor's chair, college was free in California. Still, if Palin get elected in 2012, I'm heading for Canada.

    12. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by incognito84 · · Score: 1

      I don't have a PhD :P Nor am I teaching English here. Also, if you make $250,000 a year at a job in CANADA with a BSc. in Engineering, then you are not a representative sample. The average graduate with a BSc. degree in Canada is not pulling in that much dough. 95% of them are probably working in jobs that aren't in their field, and I'd venture that a large porportion of that 95% are making barely enough to survive. You got lucky, sir. Does your father own the company or something?

    13. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by abigor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, guns are very available in Canada. I believe we even have a per capita gun ownership that exceeds that of the US, though I'm not positive on that. Regardless, there's just some cultural difference that prevents us from killing each other the way you guys do, although there are gun deaths, don't get me wrong.

    14. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by abigor · · Score: 1

      95% of them are probably working in jobs that aren't in their field, and I'd venture that a large porportion of that 95% are making barely enough to survive.

      Needs citation. Until then, I call bullshit, sorry. You sound like a bitter person.

    15. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by tony1343 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_countries_by_gun_ownership. Per 100 people, the United States has 90 guns. Canada has 31.5. All I can say to that is, "weak." France and Finland are beating you (which I wouldn't have expected). Switzerland up there doesn't surprise me though.

      Not sure why the U.S. is so ridiculously high. I guess a better statistic would be the percentage of people who own guns. I'm pretty sure a lot of people who buys guns buy a lot of them.

      Now check out fire-arm related deaths at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate. Man, the U.S. is awesome. I've never felt more proud to be an American.

    16. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by pablodiazgutierrez · · Score: 1

      College wasn't free in California when I came in 2001.

    17. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Vexorg_q · · Score: 3, Informative

      The taxes may be higher in Canada, and it is true that healthcare and education costs are lower. However, as an American who goes to university (McGill) in Canada, I can tell you that its far from being a socialist paradise.

      You say that infrastructure is crumbling in California, and I think you are probably right (I've only been to California a couple of times). But on the other hand, it is too in Quebec, which has had a spate of lethal collapses in the last couple of years (this being the most recent). Last year a bridge collapsed and killed a person on a busy highway, and the same thing happened several years before that. This spring, a major elevated concrete highway interchange in Montreal (the Turcot Interchange) was closed after the authorities discovered a 1m (!!) deep pothole IN THE BRIDGE. Canadians like to blame the weather, but having grown up in New England, where we get all the same weather, I can assure you that our bridges are not collapsing.

      Sure the healthcare is free, and everyone has access, but I'll tell you, having to wait 4 hours to see a doctor (as I have done many times) really sucks.

      The public high schools are sufficient, but are not by any means greatly superior to americans. 50% dropout rates are commonplace in many places and years of price freezes on tuition has greatly hindered the ability of universities to fund their students (everything from research to maintenance of buildings has been cut for the last 5 years at my university). Many of the cuts would be unheard of at an American university. My first year undergrad chemistry class was 1500 students.

      To be fair, Canada does a lot of things better than the United States. And we do things better than Canada, although I think we could both learn from each other, and I don't mean to repudiate social democracy or universal healthcare. These are certainly things we could use in the US. But to say that Californians are "royally screwed" is uninformed - Canadians are plenty screwed in other ways (that you take for granted in the states).

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    18. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by YourExperiment · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not sure what this says about Taiwan, but the figures seem to suggest that almost as many people die there as a result of accidents with guns as are killed in firearm-related homicides.

      Of course, their total firearm homicide per capita rate is less than 1/20th of that in the United States, so perhaps the figures just show that no-one in Taiwan is quite sure how to use a gun.

    19. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      This is true, but Quebec is a pathological case within Canada: highest taxes in the country, crumbling infrastructure and lowest level of funding to their universities over the last fifteen years. The 50% dropout rate is a myth, though. The true rate is 12%.

      The reason? the premier of the province said it during last week's debate: while the economy crumbles all political parties talk about is whether to reopen the constitution or not.

    20. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Malc · · Score: 1

      Haven't heard that term since really since the dot-com bomb. Nobody really seems to be worry about it these days it seems.

    21. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Malc · · Score: 1

      The fire-arm related deaths page doesn't list the UK, although it does list the province of N. Ireland in the developing countries list! Most of the numbers are old and would be interesting to see where they are now.

    22. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by udowish · · Score: 1

      no, my parents are dead I work for a paycheck. But I also didn't take basket weaving in school. ALL the Engineers I know are well into the 6 figure salaries. Sorry, degrees in History won't get you the gravy train.

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    23. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by Bearhouse · · Score: 2, Informative

      Somewhat offtopic, but the Swiss have lots of guns because most adult males are obliged - as part of military sevice - to have one at home.
      Unlike the US, when they misuse them, it's to kill themselves, not other people.

    24. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by chromeshadow · · Score: 1

      When I went to Montreal, I got the impression that every piece of infrastructure in the city had been built, simultaneously, in a hurry, from the same concrete, in time for the Olympics, and now it's all crumbling simultaneously. (As opposed to most cities, where things are built at different times from different materials, so crumble over time.)

    25. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by j-beda · · Score: 1
      You are leaving out payroll taxes, which in the US are 15.3% of almost everyone's pay.

      Good point, but Canada does also have have the Canada Pension plan and employment insurance and maybe some provincial programs too? - and in any case we were talking about the highest tax rates, where most of these payroll taxes no longer apply - doesn't social security only apply to the first X number of dollars? I think the Canadian equivalents do too.

      Of course while it is in principle to at least figure out where one pays the most in taxes, it is much more of a challenge to decide which one provides better value for that outlay. I would argue that currently Canada seems to be doing a better job of this (balanced budgets, medical coverage, war fiascoes, etc.) but depending on one's outlook it is quite possible to feel the other way.

    26. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      As an American going to McGill, you need to understand one thing. Quebec is notorious for having brutal infrastructure, as Quebec seems to prefer to spend their tax money on other things (like suppressing the English language). The roads in Quebec are among the worst in North America. On road trips from NB to Ontario, the first indicator that you were close to home, was the roads became drivable.

      Quebec infrastructure is indeed some of the worst I've seen; the contrast between Ottawa (Ontario) and Gatineau/Hull (Quebec) is startling, and they're right across the river from each other.

      However, a friend who's lived in Montreal and Gatineau (so she knows just how bad those roads are) drove through Michigan last year, and claims the roads there are even worse!

    27. Re:Someone sent us up the brain! by nodrogluap · · Score: 1

      It's somewhat unfair to compare countries. As people have pointed out, there are lots of taxes that depend on your jurisdiction. Alberta and Quebec are polar opposites within Canada w.r.t. provincial taxes. The amount of property tax can vary wildly throughout the States, etc., etc.. Any comparison should be done on a state-vs-province or city-vs-city basis. I agree with you on the parental leave though, that's national. In Canada there's enough time that you can split it between the parents if you like.

  7. He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneously by techmuse · · Score: 1

    Two versions of Hawking will come into existence. One will go one way, and will stay in England. The other will go the other way (unless it crosses an event horizon), and will move to Canada.

  8. Re:Too bad.. by Emperor+Zombie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just hope its not to kill him. But that's the word on the street.

    The word on what street? Crazy Street?

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  9. Hawking radiation by Veggiesama · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's probably moving there to study the event horizon surrounding a certain black hole, otherwise known as the US financial market.

    We poured over $700 billion into it, and I doubt even he will discover Hawking radiation leaking out. Maybe a few nickels, but that's it.

    1. Re:Hawking radiation by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

      We poured over $700 billion into it, and I doubt even he will discover Hawking radiation leaking out. Maybe a few nickels, but that's it.

      That's because the black hole is surrounded by a large cloud of Administratium, which absorbs any spare change that might escape.

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  10. Re:He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneou by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I see a flaw in your logic... See, crossing the US/Canada border *is* the event horizon. At that point hawking will split into a finite number of hawkings will cross the event horizon, while an equal number of anti-hawkings will stay inside. I'm guessing they'll head to Ohio as soon as they figure out their better halves are sitting down for tea.

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  11. Meh by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Funny

    We don't need him in the U.S.A. The world ends in four years and a month anyway.

    1. Re:Meh by stephenhawking · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would never move to America anyway, too many creationists.

    2. Re:Meh by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is that due to the Mayan Calendar, or the Palin Presidency?

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  12. A new chair by clarkkent09 · · Score: 5, Funny

    distinguished research chair at the prestigious Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics.

    I don't know, a research chair sounds a bit dangerous, however distinguished it may be. I think he better stick with his current chair until this new one is at least in beta testing...

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    1. Re:A new chair by g2devi · · Score: 4, Funny

      More dangerous than you think.

      Microsoft has traditionally hired heavily from Waterloo, (e.g. http://blogs.pulver.com/jarnold/archives/2005/11/google_gets_ano.html ).

      What do you think when Steve "the chair tosser" Ballmer meets up with Stephen Hawking in his new position as Research Chair?

    2. Re:A new chair by Zwicky · · Score: 1

      Steve "the chair tosser" Ballmer

      As that joke is showing its age these days I'm afraid I'm going to have to mentally redact the word 'chair'.

      Much better.

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    3. Re:A new chair by MR.Mic · · Score: 1

      Free, clean transportation?

  13. Re:Too bad.. by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Our plan is to give him free health care and poutine, and see which one wins.

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  14. Thankful... by ilsa · · Score: 1

    I am so glad I am not in charge of moving him and his stuff! What daunting logistics.

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  15. Re:He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Note to the geographically cgalenged: It is possible to go from England to Canada without crossing the US/Canada border. In fact it is the most direct route.

  16. $speak_text = $speak_text.' eh?'; by mcalwell · · Score: 3, Funny

    $speak_text = $speak_text.' eh?';

    1. Re:$speak_text = $speak_text.' eh?'; by Nerftoe · · Score: 1

      +1 funny. I would have given you real mod points, but I have not had the privilege since I was blacklisted in '00.

    2. Re:$speak_text = $speak_text.' eh?'; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "when i was in 'nam . .."

    3. Re:$speak_text = $speak_text.' eh?'; by Wyck · · Score: 1

      speak_text.replace( "science", "hockey" )
      speak_text.replace( "collision", "body-check" )
      speak_text.replace( "universe", "Tim Horton's" )
      speak_text.replace( "God", "Gretzky" )
      speak_text.replace( "million", "813,000" )

  17. He's still not moving to Canada by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to the article - it's a 'visiting Chair', and he will make regular visits to Waterloo, ON.

    In other words, he's getting a big paycheque for attaching his name to the institute and will make the minimal number of personal appearances to make it look legit.

    1. Re:He's still not moving to Canada by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe future Blackberries will start talking to you in an interesting new voice.

    2. Re:He's still not moving to Canada by Xest · · Score: 1

      That makes sense, it did seem a bit odd to me that he'd move full time.

      The amount of research materials he must have at Cambridge and the relationship with other physicists and mathematicians there is a lot to throw away as well as being so close to CERN over in Switzerland. To throw all that away would undoubtedly set his research back a few years and I'm sure he's aware at his age and in his condition he probably realises he doesn't have even a single year to just throw away wastefully.

      Sure stuff like his research materials could be moved over, he could visit CERN and his colleagues but it's still going to be nowhere near as productive as sticking with the environment he knows and has managed to work in so well all these years.

    3. Re:He's still not moving to Canada by lxs · · Score: 1

      So it's just his chair that's visiting Canada then?
      I hope he has a spare to use in the meantime.

    4. Re:He's still not moving to Canada by Wyck · · Score: 1

      That's too bad. I work right next to the Perimeter Institute and was hoping Stephen would be able to start going to lunch with us.

  18. Serious question by NinthAgendaDotCom · · Score: 1

    This guy has been around for awhile, and obviously he's still productive. How is that possible with his degenerative disorder? Don't those diseases usually get bad enough that the body fails, e.g. muscles too weak to move the lungs?

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    1. Re:Serious question by Shados · · Score: 4, Informative

      He's actually starting to have trouble communicating, as the movements he used for it back then (blinking I think?) are starting to become harder. He's still productive, but not as much as he used to, and probably not for very long.

    2. Re:Serious question by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Never underestimate the disabled. While his body fails, his brain is in tip top shape. He is brave for continuing on with a disease that tears his body apart.

      He still has a good 10 to 20 years.

      I myself am disabled, and people underestimate me as well. I have physical and mental illnesses that are tearing apart my body and mind, but I continue on myself. I understand a bit of what Hawking is going through. But not all of it. I am not as advanced in my disease as Hawking is in his. I use computers to communicate with the world, because I lack proper social skills and communication skills and cannot speak them verbally, but I am better using a computer to communicate for me.

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    3. Re:Serious question by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The question isn't a slam on the disabled - it's my understanding (not refreshed with a recent Googling or a Wikipedia visit) that it's extremely unusual to live far into your thirties when you have motor neuron disease.

      Of course, those lifespan estimates have probably been climbing due to improved medicine since his original diagnosis regardless of anything unique to Stephen Hawking's particular progression.

    4. Re:Serious question by g0at · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unfitter, unhappier, less productive?

    5. Re:Serious question by Zwicky · · Score: 1

      I think there was a technology shown on the Gadget Show a couple of seasons ago which allowed hands-free input by staring at a letter in a grid and the computer would select it (or something very similar to this, details are hazy for me; it may have been a proof of concept).

      I know Hawking is often reluctant to upgrade his input mechanisms and it took a significant amount of time for him to move to his current method. However, given that soon he will probably lose movement in his cheek, something like this might be the only method left available to him if he is reduced to eye movement alone.

      He's awesome in my opinion and I know he doesn't let his condition get him down, saying he's very lucky in other ways, but it's still sad to see him (or anyone) in that way.

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    6. Re:Serious question by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Keep on truckin', dude.

    7. Re:Serious question by ortholattice · · Score: 1

      He's actually starting to have trouble communicating, as the movements he used for it back then (blinking I think?) are starting to become harder.

      Perhaps the next step would be to monitor his brain waves. I don't know what the progress is in passive external electrodes, but fMRI has achieved some amazing things, like like Voice recognition software reads your brain waves . This article is about decoding what people are listening to or looking at - maybe because it's easier to correlate experimentally - rather than what they want to communicate, but perhaps looking at other regions of the brain might achieve the latter. I think I've read something about being able to detect whether a person is telling the truth (kind of eerie). There's also the problem of the huge size of the machines, although there's some work on handheld fMRI (from 2005, not sure of the current state of the art).

    8. Re:Serious question by canajin56 · · Score: 2, Informative

      When he was diagnosed in 1963, he was given 2 to 3 years to live.

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    9. Re:Serious question by Raiden30 · · Score: 1

      Quoted from wiki

      During a visit to the research centre CERN in Geneva in 1985, Hawking contracted pneumonia, which in his condition was life-threatening as it further restricted his already limited respiratory capacity. He had an emergency tracheotomy, and as a result lost what remained of his ability to speak. He has since used an electronic voice synthesizer to communicate. The DECtalk DTC01 voice synthesizer he uses, which has an American accent, is no longer being produced. Asked why he has still kept it after so many years, Hawking mentioned that he has not heard a voice he likes better and that he identifies with it. Hawking is said to be looking for a replacement since, aside from being obsolete, the synthesizer is both large and fragile by modern standards. However, as of present, finding a workable software alternative has been difficult. In Hawking's many media appearances he appears to speak fluently through his synthesizer but, in reality, creating the text is a tedious drawn-out process. Hawking's setup uses a predictive text entry system, which only requires the first few characters in order to auto-complete the word, but as he is only able to use his cheek for data entry, constructing complete sentences takes time.

    10. Re:Serious question by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      The next stage is someone inserting probes directly into his brain/nerves. Fifty years from now, his brain will still be ticking away, communicating, and inventing new problems to solve.

      Let's just hope his new employer has a good health plan and a good Neuro-Surgery research department.

    11. Re:Serious question by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

      At the rate he is degenerating at, I read a report that stated he had 10 to 20 years left before it gets so bad he will have even more serious problems. Advances in medicine have helped, and he is better than most people think he is at a certain level.

      If he has made it this far, it logically stands to reason he has another decade or two left in him. He beat the odds when he was 31, so he can still beat the odds.

      I was supposed to die when I was 40, and I just passed that mark. By June I'll be 41, and if still alive it will either be God or medicine or a strong will to live that keeps me alive. The same, I expect, for Hawking.

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  19. Re:Great news. - Free Genie by fireheadca · · Score: 1

    Done.

    (But you have to figure out how to use it. )

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  20. Re:He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneou by JanneM · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...a finite number of hawkings will cross the event horizon, while an equal number of anti-hawkings will stay inside."

    And they'll be easily distinguishable as the anti-Hawkings are all evil and have goatees.

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  21. Re:Just before World War II, Einstein left.. by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is something that happened 60+ years ago an ominous sign today?
    Not especially, unless you're peddling paranoia.

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  22. A few quotes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "In conclusion, I understand nothing about the anomaly, even after cashing the huge check I got for writing a book about it."
    - Stephen Hawking, Futurama

    "We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."
    - Stephen Hawking

    More funny and insightful quotes here:
    http://www.quoteaddict.com/

  23. Watch Out, Canada! by sk999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hawking has a wicked sense of humor and will pull practical jokes. Many years ago I watched him skewer Caltech professor Kip Thorne just as he (KT) was about to begin a seminar. It was one of those "you had to be there to appreciate it" moments, but it was hilarious - the whole audience was laughing. Not bad for someone who, even then, could do little more than activate his motorized wheelchair. A sense of timing does wonders.

    1. Re:Watch Out, Canada! by Prodigy+Savant · · Score: 2, Insightful

      more details on the practical joke, please!

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  24. my alma mater by Potor · · Score: 1

    UW 91, baby

  25. Celebrity news by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

    I don't want to hear any of you complaining about a Brittany Spears piece ever again.

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  26. Kidnapping Stephen Hawkings by plone · · Score: 1

    Yeah, my name's Josh Beltash. I've been in a wheelchair for just over three years. I get by. I make quite a lot of inventions for myself. I made a little pantograph lift that'll take me up and down for the right level for the sink, but I think that this has got to be the best. That wheelchair will do best part of seventy mile an hour. More into seventy-two, we clocked it on the bypass, Gabriel timed me and, er, I reckon we could do eighty on a good day. But I'm not really a speed king myself, you know, so I'm going to give it away to Stephen Hawking, 'cause he's coming to London on June the second to do a talk, and Gabriel and me have got backstage passes. So when Hawking comes out into the car park for a piss, like he normally does before he gives his speech, we're going to jump him. Gabriel is going to bundle him in the van; we're going to drive up to an old airfield in Bedford and we're going to give the little fucker the ride of his life!

    I've always seen him as a bit of a Brandoesque kind of a figure, so Gabe's going to thread him in the van. I reckon with a fair wind we could probably get him to do a hundred. We're going to film it on video. I'm not going to all that trouble just to see it once! And that will also help us shut him up, 'cause we're going to film him with his cock out, so if he ever does get any ideas about talking to anybody about it, he knows what we're going to do with the pictures. Fucking jumped up little spider!

    (Thank you Chris Morris)

  27. Stepen Hawkings on SGA by ninken · · Score: 1

    I knew this weeks ago, did you see the SGA episode?

  28. Re:He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneou by eriksarcade · · Score: 1

    > See, crossing the US/Canada border *is* the event horizon.

    exactly, Detroit IS a black hole.

  29. Re:Maybe is Obama by EndoplasmicRidiculus · · Score: 1

    1. Stephen Hawking is British, not American. 2. What is the likelihood of a McCain voter moving to Canada of all places?

  30. Re:He is both coming to Canada and not simultaneou by notnAP · · Score: 1

    The institute he's en route to is called Perimeter, is it not? Surely we can work that name into the whole Hawking Radiation posts flying about.

  31. Anyone up for his old job? by Macblaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A vacancy has just opened up. Apply by December 15.

  32. About 'About' by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    Canadians don't typically say, "aboot", they say, "a boat". Americans often pronounce the word as, "a bow t" (with the 'bow' part drawn-out and sounding like the front of of a ship or 'take a bow' as one might do if being applauded).

    Gnome sane, yaaall?

  33. Brain drain? by Dryesias · · Score: 1

    Is the United States experiencing a brain drain? More and more scientists and people with technical skills seem to be leaving to do their research, teaching, and work elsewhere, though mostly to Asian countries. Historically the the drain has always been from Canada to the United States, but perhaps this is shifting.

    1. Re:Brain drain? by prayag · · Score: 1

      Instead of focusing on who gets which talent why don't we allow the brilliant brains to mix freely.

      In these days, an advancement in Technology/Science benefits everyone. Let's not get territorial about it. For ages, India has got its talent drained to USA. But it has helped everyone including India. How do you think we became a technology super-power ?

  34. Re:Maybe is Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    High with our current Prime Minister.

  35. Perimeter = RIM? by That.7O's.Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Q: What's a synonym for Perimeter?
    A: Rim, or more appropriately, RIM (Research In Motion)

    Not sure if it's already mentioned in the comments, but the Perimeter Institute was founded, and is primarily funded, by Mike Lazaridus, Co-CEO of RIM and Chancellor of the University of Waterloo.

    I wonder if Dr. Hawking will be getting a free Blackberry? (I guess he'll have to design an interface as his first task at Perimeter.)

  36. One Upside To This Situation by Revotron · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, at least now the phrase "Slower than Steven Hawking in a snowstorm" might actually have some basis in fact.

  37. Re:Celebrity culture by Sepiraph · · Score: 1

    You are missing the point, science needs funding and the only way to do that is to raise public awareness and perception. Without funding, how you plan to pay the next generation of scientists. Almost any airtime science can get is good given the state of our society.

  38. Somebody had to say it by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nima Arkadi-Hamed, who currently occupies the chair previously held by Hawking

    Do you mean the University post, or the one with wheels and an electric motor?

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  39. Rifles != Pistols by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a HUGE difference between a hunting rifle and an automatic pistol. Try to conceal one.

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    1. Re:Rifles != Pistols by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hence the obligatory, "is that hunting rifle in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?"

  40. I'd look in the mirror by Spotticus · · Score: 1

    All of my Canadian Comp-Sci and Engineering friends (myself included) are happly employed in the fields we studied making 6 figures. Sounds like your problem is looking right back at you in the mirror. I will admit though that one of my med school friends recently decided to take a pay cut and move to Boston (They just couldn't pay him enough to stay in Thunder Bay)

  41. As a UW Student.... by mcgee_11 · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a UW Student in their Faculty of Mathematics, I would like to just say that I think it's wondering that UW is attracting such well known people. We have many ties with a variety of people and establishments around the world! This is just an example of how to bring the top people in the field together to help each other out and reap some very large benefits. I do not think this is a bad thing at all. Hawking is the first of 40 people that PI wishes to invite over to the Waterloo area. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081127.whawking1127/BNStory/National/home?cid=al_gam_mostview

  42. Re:Too bad.. by legojenn · · Score: 1

    For poutine, he'd have to consider McGill instead of Waterloo.

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  43. Re:Too bad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    He is living in England primarily so he already has the use of UK free health care system.

  44. Re:Hawkin's Taking Off To Canada, eh by itsybitsy · · Score: 1

    Flamebait???? What the heck??? It was humour you goof! Yes, that's the Canadian spelling of humour too. Man you've got to get a sense of humour oh flamebait anything moderator!

  45. Perimeter Institute - Cool Stuff Going On -Eh by gpronger · · Score: 1

    Don't know if the Canadians are working on making a name for themselves in Theoretical Physics, but PI certainly is doing it for them. Attracting Hawking fits what they've been up to.

    They also have a strong public outreach with public lectures; and if you're not close enough to attend you can view the past lectures at:

    http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/Outreach/Public_Lectures/View_Past_Public_Lectures/

    Greg

  46. Color me Dumb by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 1

    ...but why did he leave Cambridge and the Newton Chair? No troll, I honestly want to know.

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  47. Disabilities act? by koafc2 · · Score: 1

    I hope he's able, you know, to get around ok since there's no Americans w/ Disabilities Act (ADA) in Canada. Best of luck to him!

    1. Re:Disabilities act? by mcgee_11 · · Score: 1

      While the University of Waterloo was mostly built during a time where many disabled people were not taken into consideration, I can assure you that UW has added things like wheel chair accessibility entrances, elevators, and more to their buildings. I think he will be able to get around just fine.

  48. Stephen Hawking by ErkDemon · · Score: 1
    Actually, Hawking was responsible for pushing though one of the largest theoretical gear-changes of the late Twentieth Century, Hawking radiation.

    Before Hawking, people had used general relativity to prove conclusively that information couldn't travel outwards through a gravitational horizon. It was geometrically impossible. Hawking's own "area-addition theorem" was responsible for closing one of the last potential logical loopholes that might have allowed information-escape.

    If you talked to relativists, the "perfect blackness" of a black hole was supposed to be one of the purest and most perfect results in the history of human thought. It was a bit like general relativity's equivalent of the result under special relativity that you couldn't accelerate through the speed of light.

    But what Hawking then said was that all this perfect logical proof was irrelevant, because another logical system, quantum mechanics, gave a different answer. Since QM was based on more abstract general principles than general relativity, QM really couldn't be wrong. We had two perfect logical systems GR and QM, and neither system's results seemed to be negotiable, and yet, when we applied both systems to the same scenario to try to find out what happened, they both gave qualitatively different answers.

    Something fundamental at the core of C20th physics was broken, or misconstructed, or was at the very least missing a critical piece of the puzzle.

    Where Hawking scored over his contemporaries was that he recognised the conflict, and went public. Lesser scientists who'd noticed an apparent mismatch had probably thought that they'd done something wrong, and dropped the matter, or were reluctant to go public with such an obviously wrong answer. Hawking's contemporaries thought he'd gone mad, and one well-known black hole populariser, John Taylor, famously stood up and walked out of Hawking's first talk on the subject part-way through, declaring "I'm sorry, Stephen, this is complete ___ * "
    * (accounts vary as to what the word used actually was)

    So Hawking stood up against pretty much the entire expert community and made a declaration that everyone knew was wrong, and he turned out to be right. Nobody else had the clarity, and the guts, and the sheer don't-give-a-damn attitude to see the problem for what it was, and stand up in a room of theoretical physicists and say so (and to hell with the consequences).

    When it comes to "deep" theoretical physics, I rate Hawking as one of the most critically-important theoreticians of the last half century. He's not always right, but he's usually interesting. You can read his research work and see that there's a real human intelligence at work, which isn't always the case with the papers of some of his more mathematically-inclined colleagues.

    I agree that some of Hawking's popular books aren't as good as they might have been (unsurprisingly, given that the guy can't sit down and draw diagrams and layouts), and I agree that his public image is probably partly based on his situation rather than on the public actually understanding what it is that he achieved ... but his record stands.

    I think that there are probably a lot of mathematical physicists out there who think that they're techically better than Hawking, but if you ask them when's the last time they overturned a major foundation-stone of of theoretical physics, or what physical effects have been named after them, you're going to get an awkward silence. If they think that Hawking's a bad communicator, ask them when's the last time they published a popular book on their speciality subject.

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    I tend to agree with your criticism of Richard Dawkins, though - I think that RD's arguments are often clumsy and crude, and often don't do credit to the POV he's trying to present - I find it difficult to watch RD on television, because of the wince factor at some of the dumb things he comes out with. Dawkins is enthusuastic, but he's too emotional, and he's not really a logician.

    Hawking, though, is the real deal. Hyped, yes ... but still the genuine article.