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Scientists Find Hole In Earth's Magnetic Field

Velorium writes "The Earth's magnetic field has been found to have two large holes that are making Earth's surface vulnerable to solar winds. Despite what scientists originally thought, these holes allow 20 times the normal amount of solar particles through when they are facing away from the sun. This is the opposite of what the scientists had first speculated."

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  1. The price of aluminum will skyrocket... by fucket · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as the demand for tinfoil hats reaches an all-time high.

    1. Re:The price of aluminum will skyrocket... by MarkRose · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Which is somewhat ironic, because the usual way of smelting aluminum generates incredibly big magnetic fields as part of the electrolysis process. I took a tour through a facility once, and there was no limit to the number of paper clips you could stack end-to-end on the tour bus while in the plant. Pretty neat.

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    2. Re:The price of aluminum will skyrocket... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Uhh, shouldn't that be the price of TIN?

    3. Re:The price of aluminum will skyrocket... by x1n933k · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Nay,

      The common household name for Aluminum wrap or foil is 'tinfoil'. Regardless of what it is made of. Blame the baby boomers.

      [J]

    4. Re:The price of aluminum will skyrocket... by SmokeyTheBalrog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Besides, Aluminium is more fun to say. Aluminium.

      In the US, if you go into a store and ask to buy some Aluminium; you might get a visit from Home Land Security.

    5. Re:The price of aluminum will skyrocket... by MarkRose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It was a bit before cell phones became really popular, but it would even fry digital watches according to the guide. They had everyone leave their electronics in the tour office. That's probably why they had a bus from the seventies, too, before vehicles had lots of electronics in them.

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  2. I saw this in "The Core" by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 4, Funny

    A bright shaft of light is going to sneak through the hole in the field and melt the Golden Gate Bridge. Just you wait.

    At least we can be safe at night. ...Probably...

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    1. Re:I saw this in "The Core" by Knave75 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Never fear, scientists have almost perfected the synthesis of "unobtainium"

    2. Re:I saw this in "The Core" by supernova_hq · · Score: 5, Funny

      At least we can be safe at night.

      ...these holes allow 20 times the normal amount of solar particles through when they are facing away from the sun

      Well, so much for being safe at night...

    3. Re:I saw this in "The Core" by julesh · · Score: 2, Funny

      A bright shaft of light is going to sneak through the hole in the field and melt the Golden Gate Bridge. Just you wait.

      It's the attack of the killer pigeons I'm worried about. Everybody should get out of urban areas and stock up on shotgun shells now, just in case.

    4. Re:I saw this in "The Core" by weber · · Score: 4, Funny

      At least we can be safe at night. ...Probably...

      They mostly come at night... mostly...

    5. Re:I saw this in "The Core" by vigour · · Score: 3, Funny

      A bright shaft of light is going to sneak through the hole in the field and melt the Golden Gate Bridge. Just you wait.

      It's the attack of the killer pigeons I'm worried about. Everybody should get out of urban areas and stock up on shotgun shells now, just in case.

      Eeep, I don't know whether you should be modded funny or insightful.

  3. Hmmm.... by CannonballHead · · Score: 2, Funny

    If global warming is presumably caused by SUVs, what are holes in the magnetic field caused by? Too many cell phones?

    1. Re:Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If global warming is presumably caused by SUVs, what are holes in the magnetic field caused by? Too many cell phones?

      The results of a runaway experiment after "Bring your daughter to work day" at Aperture Science?

    2. Re:Hmmm.... by Knave75 · · Score: 3, Funny

      My guess is that the holes are caused by violent video games.

    3. Re:Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      but its ok, they were doing it for the cake

    4. Re:Hmmm.... by Belial6 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shhhhh.... Don't give the anti-cellphone nut jobs any ideas.

    5. Re:Hmmm.... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Physics.

      These aren't unusual, new, or different in any way to what has always happened. Despite the alarmist summary, the point of the article was that more particles sneak through the magnetosphere when the fields of the sun and earth are aligned (opposite to what was believed) and that we had a satellite in the right place to watch this happening.

    6. Re:Hmmm.... by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      If global warming is presumably caused by SUVs, what are holes in the magnetic field caused by? Too many cell phones?

      No; it's from an attempt to create a magnetic field that uses twenty percent less magnetism; they create holes that cover 20% of the field. It's known as the Eco-Magnetic field.

    7. Re:Hmmm.... by Blain · · Score: 4, Funny

      George Bush. Everything is his fault.

      Expect the holes to start closing in about five weeks.

    8. Re:Hmmm.... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      So you mean those are pie holes?

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  4. Earth's Taint by AmigaHeretic · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The Earth's magnetic field has been found to have two large holes that are making Earth's surface vulnerable to solar winds"

    I am wondering what is between the two large holes?

    1. Re:Earth's Taint by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny

      "The Earth's magnetic field has been found to have two large holes that are making Earth's surface vulnerable to solar winds"

      I am wondering what is between the two large holes?

      A region of the earth known as the magnetic perineum.

    2. Re:Earth's Taint by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since they're at opposite poles, the answer is: Earth.

  5. Re:1st Comment! by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Funny

    [citation needed]

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  6. Holes near poles by panoptical2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Um, for years, haven't we known that the earth's magnetosphere was missing near the poles? (the Aurora Borealis, anyone?)

    1. Re:Holes near poles by hydrofix · · Score: 4, Informative

      Exactly. The article subject is totally utterly incorect - we have known that Earth's magnetic field has two holes on each pole for decades. It's the very reason that causes Aurora Borealis or the northen lights. Here in Northern Europe, which is famous for the display of colorful northern lights, it's actually part of the school curriculum to teach children what physically causes this effect, and even my little brother can tell you that Earth's magnetic field has two huge holes around the poles. The NASA article is about the effects these sun wind particles have on Earth's biosphere.

  7. Ah sorry guys by Zwicky · · Score: 4, Funny

    I left my ACME Megalaser of Doom plugged in overnight, on the 'degaussing' setting. Honestly, I thought it was just on 'charge'.

    Awfully sorry. It won't happen again. Promise.

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    1. Re:Ah sorry guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry to go off topic, but did you ever notice how quick ACME's shipping was? As soon as Wiley Coyote or Bugs Bunny dropped a letter in the mail, a truck arrived within seconds with his package. The logistics behind their supply chain management was incredible. Sure, they were A Company that Makes Everything, but I was always impressed on their shipping response time.

  8. There's a hole by Slashdotgirl · · Score: 5, Funny
    There's a hole in the Mag Field, dear Liza, dear Liza,

    There's a hole in the Mag Field dear Liza, a hole.

    So fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
    So fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, FIX IT,

    With what should I fix it, dear Liza dear Liza,
    With what should I fix it, dear Liza with what?

    With a Greenie, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
    With a Greenie, dear Henry, dear Henry, with Greenie's (sigh),

    Regards
    Slashdot Girl

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    1. Re:There's a hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      With what should I fix it, dear Liza dear Liza

      With Henries, of course!

    2. Re:There's a hole by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Informative

      Now that is funny. Guess it went over the moderators' heads. A Henry is a unit of inductance. Grossly oversimplified, inductance is basically the property by which current produces an electromagnetic field....

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  9. Why power grids? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Informative
    Firstly, power grids are controlled by lots of itty bitty electronics.

    Secondly, the induced voltage is proportional to the area times the number of turns times the change in flux density. Since power grids cover huge areas, changes in magnetic flux duensity can cause huge disturbances in network voltages, tripping protection relays and causing other mayhem.

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  10. probably need lead, instead by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hrm... tinfoil might not be good enough... might even be counter productive. The high energy particles that smack into something in the tin foil would probably generate a spray of secondary particles, all of which would be more likely to smack into something in your brain than the original particle (which would be more likely to pass right through your "me-jelly").

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    1. Re:probably need lead, instead by pintpusher · · Score: 3, Funny

      mmmm... me-jelly...

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  11. ironic in the Alanis Morissette sense by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like when you want to post to Slashdot, but all you have is a Nomad.

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  12. Speaking of tin foil by djupedal · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...before the LHC "we see nothing". And now, after the LHC was turned on... "oh, look at the too shiny two holes!" - coincidence?

    1. Re:Speaking of tin foil by julesh · · Score: 4, Funny

      before the LHC "we see nothing". And now, after the LHC was turned on... "oh, look at the too shiny two holes!" - coincidence?

      Before LHC: George W. Bush.
      After LHC: Barack Obama.

      I think we need more high energy physics expirements.

  13. Mayans by IrritableBeing · · Score: 4, Funny

    Were the Mayans correct in predicting the world's end for 2012?

    Quote from TFA:

    "Understanding how these holes form will help them better predict the electrical storms that cause power grid blackouts and the aurora, activity that will peak in 2012 as sunspots hit their maximum level."

    Please God let Diablo III come out before then.

    1. Re:Mayans by postbigbang · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, there's a problem with that theory.

      Sunspots are at a near-historic low. See this NASA graph at http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml for a bit of an understanding. The 11yr sunspot cycle that was supposed to peak around 2012 isn't there. See http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-sunspot-mys.html for speculation.

      The holes may be old Osborne I's, connected via acoustically-coupled modems, that are sucking the life away from the magnetosphere. Adam Osborne would have been proud.

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  14. Large Hadron Collider by kwabbles · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh. You guys thought they took it offline because it had a little glitch.

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    1. Re:Large Hadron Collider by Arimus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Compared to some of the worst case scenarios from certain sections of the media and assorted doom-mongers it was a little glitch. A big glitch would have gone something like:

      Scientist 1: What's that strange glow...

      Scientist 2: I don't know but its getting bigger...

      Diety of choice: Whoops. There goes Eath, time to build another but I'll fit a circuit breaker this time...

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  15. Re:1st Comment! by Megatog615 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apparently the holes let "first post"-ers through as well.

  16. Somebody tore the Earth a second hole... by Trip6 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...there used to be only one but Earth missed a VIG payment.

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  17. Huh? by Merc248 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did the tag just tell me to tap it?

    If Hip-Hop has told me anything, it is to tap any hole that is tappable. I am jealous that the physicists have outdone us again. :(

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  18. Re:Solar power by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Getting them to stay there would be pretty hard. Plus the particles in question are mostly protons and some free electrons. Probably not so good for your solar collector.

  19. Re:So what does this mean? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, we didn't cause it. Yes, it's always been happening, but yes we always knew about it. We just had one of the details backwards - more particles get through when the sun and earth fields are aligned rather than opposite, as was previously believed.

    No, it doesn't affect climate change. The repercussions is that the poles get aurorae (revolutionary, I know, particularly as I grew up under them), and that if we get a really bad solar storm with the right conditions it can be bad for the power grid. As has been dramatically demonstrated several times ever since we started building power grids.

  20. Re:When facing away... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a mediocre article, and a horrendous summary.

    The new finding is that more particles get through when the Earth's field and the Sun's field are aligned in the same direction. It was previously believed that the opposite was true - more particles get through when the fields are oppositely aligned. I assume that's what the summary meant by "facing away from the sun."

  21. Magnetic Poles about the Flip by TheSync · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps the Earth's magnetic poles are about to flip.

    Supposedly it won't kill us all....

  22. that's no holes! by bronney · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are Magneto's sisters!

  23. Bad Summary? by NotmyNick · · Score: 5, Informative

    Despite what scientists originally thought, these holes allow 20 times the normal amount of solar particles through when they are facing away from the sun. This being opposite from what the scientists had originally speculated.

    Apparently submitted by the department of redundancy department apparently, the problem is that's not what the article actually says.

    Scientists once believed that the particles entered when the sun's magnetic field was aligned opposite to that of the Earth's. But findings presented at the meeting show that 20 times more solar particles enter the Earth's magnetic field when it is aligned in the same direction as the sun's magnetic field.

    It the alignment of the fields North-to-South being discussed and nightside effects are not explicitly discussed. Some clarification by a physicist would seem in order.

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  24. Re:News to the scients but not to the Mayans by YttriumOxide · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is NOT the Mayan calendar end of the world, it's just the end of this number of "places" in the recording system. It's designed so that when you run out of places, you can essentially just cycle it around, and you're in the next "age" as it were. See here for a fairly reasonable explanation. Theoretically, you could also just add another counter to it for the "age" that you're in and cycle the rest (like adding one more decimal place as we do when we count from 9999 to 10000 for example). Despite all this, it's still a pretty cool event from the perspective of the Mayan calendar or otherwise (note that they did have a good REASON for this date, which is far more interesting than a boring old end of world prophecy - see the link).

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    1. Re:NOT the first use of that phrase! by macraig · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google the phrase, genius... all I did was to quote from the first relevant page hit. I shared it because I thought it was hilarious and bizarre. Strangely, on that same first results page there was another page hit for the phrase which also dealt with gay sex. Maybe it's some sorta gay code for something else entirely....

      Why would you mod me according to the contents of a Web page I didn't write and merely quoted for the humor of it? Can I mod your comment as "*1 Lacks Perspective" or "*1 Sense of Humor Gone AWOL"?

  26. The sun is at a low point... by mechaman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The variable is that the sun is at a low point in activity right now. I wonder if we'll see a larger failure rate of satellites orbiting the region. I guess it's extra tin-foil for them too. How would you go about shielding something that big from electrical fields that strong?

  27. Re:Okay, what did we do this time? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 3, Informative

    We prefer these orbits because they best serve the equatorial regions we have monopolized.

    I know I should be feeding a troll, but the reason for putting most communications' satellites into equatorial orbits is that these are the only orbits that can be geostationary (satellite stays put relatively to the surface).

    You really prefer to be able to leave your antenna's pointed to the same spot in the sky, rather than having to equip it with a motor that follows the satellite around.

  28. Acme Re:Ah sorry guys by mrmeval · · Score: 3, Funny

    ACMEis a large mulitfaceted industrial and services company that owns both a package delivery conglomerate which includes matter replication and temporal transmission systems. Since they are a large monopoly spanning not only Earth but several thousand inhabited systems in several hundred universes they have access to a wide array of products and services and the ability to deliver them to customers who subjectively observe that delivery occurs nearly instantaneously.

    Their only failing is having some of the parts for that system made in China.

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  29. So, is this something new? by fitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this something that they've just discovered or something that's normal? Just because they just now found it doesn't mean that it's new.

  30. Re:News to the scients but not to the Mayans by YttriumOxide · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most of the site appears to be crap, and the last paragraph of the page I linked to is also crap, but the views of the person writing it in no way reflect on the fact that he did raise perfectly valid, scientific and interesting points. For reference, I have no affiliation with that website and just stumbled across that page with a quick google search for "mayan calendar" 2012 "plane of the ecliptic". It's the astronomical aspect of the occurrence that I'm interested in, not any mystical mumbo-jumbo surrounding it. (unfortunately, it's actually pretty hard to find links that AREN'T full of mystical mumbo-jumbo and I was too lazy to go hunting for them)

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