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Scientists Find Hole In Earth's Magnetic Field
Velorium writes "The Earth's magnetic field has been found to have two large holes that are making Earth's surface vulnerable to solar winds. Despite what scientists originally thought, these holes allow 20 times the normal amount of solar particles through when they are facing away from the sun. This is the opposite of what the scientists had first speculated."
...as the demand for tinfoil hats reaches an all-time high.
A bright shaft of light is going to sneak through the hole in the field and melt the Golden Gate Bridge. Just you wait.
At least we can be safe at night. ...Probably...
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If global warming is presumably caused by SUVs, what are holes in the magnetic field caused by? Too many cell phones?
"The Earth's magnetic field has been found to have two large holes that are making Earth's surface vulnerable to solar winds"
I am wondering what is between the two large holes?
[citation needed]
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These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Um, for years, haven't we known that the earth's magnetosphere was missing near the poles? (the Aurora Borealis, anyone?)
Screw you guys. Two of my friends died there.
One in each hole.
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There's a hole in the Mag Field dear Liza, a hole.
So fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
So fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, FIX IT,
With what should I fix it, dear Liza dear Liza,
With what should I fix it, dear Liza with what?
With a Greenie, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
With a Greenie, dear Henry, dear Henry, with Greenie's (sigh),
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The language of the /. article compared with the Reuters post seem confusing. It looks like when the fields align (say when you take two magnets and align them -++-) then holes are ripped open at the poles, which can't both be facing away from the sun.
As a side note, how do these storms disrupt power grids? It seems to make sense that bombarding the delicate electronics in satellites with solar radiation would cause damage, but why power transmission?
Sorry. I farted.
i wonder if it would be viable to put large solar arrays in these areas. sounds like a good opportunity for free energy. assuming we don't find a way to fix it (assuming we want to).
Secondly, the induced voltage is proportional to the area times the number of turns times the change in flux density. Since power grids cover huge areas, changes in magnetic flux duensity can cause huge disturbances in network voltages, tripping protection relays and causing other mayhem.
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Hrm... tinfoil might not be good enough... might even be counter productive. The high energy particles that smack into something in the tin foil would probably generate a spray of secondary particles, all of which would be more likely to smack into something in your brain than the original particle (which would be more likely to pass right through your "me-jelly").
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...before the LHC "we see nothing". And now, after the LHC was turned on... "oh, look at the too shiny two holes!" - coincidence?
Were the Mayans correct in predicting the world's end for 2012?
Quote from TFA:
"Understanding how these holes form will help them better predict the electrical storms that cause power grid blackouts and the aurora, activity that will peak in 2012 as sunspots hit their maximum level."
Please God let Diablo III come out before then.
I read TFA however I am not quite sure what this means.
Did we cause it? Or has this been happening and we just didn't know about it?
Does this affect climate change?
What are the repercussions of these holes?
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After watching the scifi channel yesterday, it now seems that we should start looking for the crystal skulls to patch up the field.
Heh. You guys thought they took it offline because it had a little glitch.
Just disrupt the deflector shield with a tachyon burst.
Apparently the holes let "first post"-ers through as well.
Holes in Magnetosphere's will conceal your location from Romulan Warbirds.
I hope.
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Did the tag just tell me to tap it?
If Hip-Hop has told me anything, it is to tap any hole that is tappable. I am jealous that the physicists have outdone us again. :(
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Despite what scientists originally thought, these holes allow 20 times the normal amount of solar particles through when they are facing away from the sun. This being opposite from what the scientists had originally speculated.
So I guess scientists originally thought that the holes shot 20 times the normal amount of solar radiation into space when they faced away from the sun?
Perhaps the Earth's magnetic poles are about to flip.
Supposedly it won't kill us all....
They are Magneto's sisters!
Apparently submitted by the department of redundancy department apparently, the problem is that's not what the article actually says.
It the alignment of the fields North-to-South being discussed and nightside effects are not explicitly discussed. Some clarification by a physicist would seem in order.
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It is NOT the Mayan calendar end of the world, it's just the end of this number of "places" in the recording system. It's designed so that when you run out of places, you can essentially just cycle it around, and you're in the next "age" as it were. See here for a fairly reasonable explanation. Theoretically, you could also just add another counter to it for the "age" that you're in and cycle the rest (like adding one more decimal place as we do when we count from 9999 to 10000 for example). Despite all this, it's still a pretty cool event from the perspective of the Mayan calendar or otherwise (note that they did have a good REASON for this date, which is far more interesting than a boring old end of world prophecy - see the link).
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The variable is that the sun is at a low point in activity right now. I wonder if we'll see a larger failure rate of satellites orbiting the region. I guess it's extra tin-foil for them too. How would you go about shielding something that big from electrical fields that strong?
...activity that will peak in 2012 as sunspots hit their maximum level.
Could this be what the Mayan's were on about?
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We prefer these orbits because they best serve the equatorial regions we have monopolized.
I know I should be feeding a troll, but the reason for putting most communications' satellites into equatorial orbits is that these are the only orbits that can be geostationary (satellite stays put relatively to the surface).
You really prefer to be able to leave your antenna's pointed to the same spot in the sky, rather than having to equip it with a motor that follows the satellite around.
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Is this something that they've just discovered or something that's normal? Just because they just now found it doesn't mean that it's new.
Can we somehow turn the extra energy coming through that hole into electricity? If so, can regular solar panels do it?
And not a single goatse.x reference? You're losing it, guys. I was expecting the article to be friggin' tagged 'goatse'.
Release of greenhouse gasses already has a movement founded upon it.
Or, wait...
I think you're on to something. Instead of creating a new man-made catastrophe for this we can just shove it under the Global Warming, uh, Cooling, uh, Climate Change umbrella. It already has widespread political support and is already designed to unjustly enrich third-world countries at the expense of more successful ones. Why create a new way man is destroying the Earth when we can use the current one?
You're a genius.
Extra energy entering the atmosphere, not previously accounted for. Time to recalibrate all those global warming models.
Hey, maybe this is what's causing the climate to warm.
Seriously we could nuke the comet to blanket the earth with anti radiation particles for when the earth's core 'stops'. The Golden Gate Bridge will of course have to be melted.
You insensitive clod!
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Generally tells you that there is probably a valid point to the post that was labeled as troll because the rater disagreed with it.
Most of the site appears to be crap, and the last paragraph of the page I linked to is also crap, but the views of the person writing it in no way reflect on the fact that he did raise perfectly valid, scientific and interesting points. For reference, I have no affiliation with that website and just stumbled across that page with a quick google search for "mayan calendar" 2012 "plane of the ecliptic". It's the astronomical aspect of the occurrence that I'm interested in, not any mystical mumbo-jumbo surrounding it. (unfortunately, it's actually pretty hard to find links that AREN'T full of mystical mumbo-jumbo and I was too lazy to go hunting for them)
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No he didn't.
Look, amazing stuff is happening ALL the time.
You can pick any day and year and find some amazing thing that are going to happen, astronomical.
It's just falling into the sharp shooter fallacy.
Shoot a hole in the wall and draw a target around it.
SInce people were around 26000 years ago, I don't think this 'event' will do anything.
13.0.0.0.0. is the natural rollover for the level of accuracy they chose, based on their number system.
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Interesting coincidence. Next Indiana Jones movie?
I think the correct course of action is to rotate Earth's Field Harmonics.
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Who should we expire next?
I don't think this 'event' will do anything either and if someone tried to convince me it was the end of the world or even that it would be anything other than an unremarkable day, I'd probably tell them they're a loony. But it IS an event that happens only once every 26000 years (or a bit under, but who's counting). And, from an astronomical perspective, it's utterly irrelevant, but from the perspective of Earth, it's quite interesting (even though it will have absolutely no effect on anything). I'm not talking about the Mayan calendar rollover - that's just a system that the Mayans came up with that happens to track the cycle fairly nicely (certainly deliberately, otherwise the coincidence would be too much to believe). In case you didn't read the link (or Google it yourself for a less "kooky" link), I'm talking about the fact that we shall again cross through the plane of the ecliptic. Earth doesn't get such interesting things happening all the time. I contest the call of sharp shooter fallacy on these grounds, in that while there are always fairly amazing things going on in the universe, our Solar System tends to be a pretty dull place (which is good for us in general). This particular event is sort of a "birthday" for our solar system (nothing related to its birth, just that it's a periodic event that's worth noting and thankfully is totally without the kind of violence that most "interesting" astronomical events are made of), and I for one will definitely be having a beer and saying, "good on you for making it another cycle!" to the solar system in general.
I do apologise if my posts were not clear on this point.
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No, they wer clear.
I didn't want to imply I thought the Mayan Calendar was a coincidence, no it a pretty precise timekeeper, just that that is all it is.
I don't think the universe is dull at all. Just very big so a lot of stuff is happening all the time just very far apart from each other.
The sharp shooter fallacy is in regards to looking at the Mayan calendar , then seeing what else happens at the rollover, then using that to determine some relationship between the two events.
I ahve actually read a lot about the Mayan Calendar. Mostly grounded in what we know, but also read up on some woo. Just so when someone goes on about there personal 'belief' of what it means I can point out the errors.
Hey, I'm not trying to be a troll or flamebait, just enjoying the conversation.
"(or a bit under, but who's counting). "
some people think the Mayans were!
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Ahhh... so what you're saying is that you don't think the crossing of plane of the ecliptic and the Mayan calendar have anything to do with each other... sorry, I thought you were arguing against my point that crossing the plane of the ecliptic is an interesting event... I was basically completely ignoring the Mayan calendar side of it, and attempting to argue in favour of the astronomical event being interesting.
Most things I've seen about the Mayan calendar do seem to point to the relationship being pretty strong though, especially since the event is pretty clearly easy to work out if you're mathematically inclined and watch the stars for a couple of years/decades. Also, their "start date" for the "age" seems a little odd if there's no actual correlation there (it's so many years before their civilisation even began, and seems to hold no other significance other than it matches this astronomical event really quite well (although, as stated, not perfectly)), so I would appreciate if you could point me at some reading that shows otherwise.
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... a happy ending?
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What we need is a hydroelectric magnetosphere regulator...