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Citrix To Bring Millions of Windows Apps To iPhone
Anonymous writes "Citrix is putting out word that it's developing an iPhone receiver that could make 'millions' of Windows applications work on Apple's handset. (Something Citrix is calling 'Project Braeburn.')
Aside from Flash and a few other apps, is anyone pining for Windows-based apps on the iPhone? (Exchange on the iPhone seems to be successful, but so does Apple's App store, which has done pretty well without Windows.)"
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Citrix is thinking of releasing an ICA client for the iPhone. Wow. That is really "Bring[ing] millions of Windows apps to iPhone." Right. ICA is arguably superior(and certainly more common in business type scenarios); but VNC on iPhone is old news and does pretty much the same thing. Hell, it looks like an RDP client is also available.
I'm sure that a lot of people will find this quite useful(I know the iPhone-carrying; but otherwise MS-headed network manager at my workplace will be all over it); but this is neither surprising nor especially interesting, and far from groundbreaking. Citrix will(assuming they manage to beat x11 support out the door) be the third graphical remote protocol to make it to the iPhone. Useful for people in environments that use citrix; but hardly novel.
The only thing Windows-related I've ever needed on my phone was RDP. And on my Fuze (Windows Mobile 6), it crashes every time I use it. I'm starting to wonder if the iPhone would have been a better choice.
When I hear this I worry about seeing Windows CE style applications being pushed to the iPhone. Then again I imagine if the applications don't fit the user experience guidelines Apple will simply prevent them from coming to the store.
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Working in IT, one of the problems I have with my blackberry is that the ability to RDP into my work enviroment is not possible on a free scale, therefore work is not persuing the opportunity. With citrix available on an iPhone, all of a sudden, my ability to work has increased exponentially. Now if it works properly, that's a whole other story... And I can just see our remote desktop support going "You're logging into work how now?". "You think we're going to support this?"
Just a little over a week ago my boss brought this up:
He was referring to an article that he forgot to link to and I got the URL from an IM. It seems some "journalist" had an article due and the iPhone is hot and top 10 lists are easy to write. The #6 slot was dedicated to the enterprise shortfall of the iPhone by not including native support for editing MS-Office documents.
My boss doesn't even have a PDA. However, the other executives with PDAs have bought into the marketing line that needing to edit office documents on your phone is a sign of importance. That strokes their ego a lot more than pointing out it's more a sign of the need for a collaboration platform that can operate without duplicating and shuttling large binaries.
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This is NOT "bringing Windows apps to the iPhone."
This is allowing the iPhone to connect to a Citrix server (which your company needs to buy and set up). You can then run apps directly on the server, or open a remote desktop session to a PC on the network.
The iPhone isn't RUNNING anything other than the client. And unless you run your own Citrix server (signs point to "no"), you don't have access to "millions of apps" except in theory. You have access to the apps that your company decides to put on the server, or (IF they decide to enable remote desktop) the apps they let you install on your company PC.
In other words, you're not playing Fallout on this.
And, since TFP seems unclear about this--no, this will NOT get you Flash in your web browser. And, no, Flash is NOT a Windows app.
Actually the protocol citrix uses kicks microsoft rdp protocols ass. But citirx is not very reliable.
Well for that Wine could be ported more easily than C&C. Why? Wine already runs on OSX (which the iPhone supposedly runs). Releasing it bundled with C&C would be simple. C&C already runs perfectly in Wine, so there is nothing to fear.
The iPhone uses an ARM processor. Unless you have a C&C binary compiled for Win32/ARM, WINE won't do jack shit for you.
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For those who don't eat fruit, Braeburn is a kind of apple.
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You do know that Citrix is a Remote Desktop (Terminal Services) add-on that displays applications in their own window instead of an entire desktop? Applications run on the server, not on the iPhone. Unless the Citrix client itself is filled with holes, there is nothing that can infect the iPhone, just the Windows Server hosting Citrix and the application.
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While there was an attempt back in the PowerPC days to add support for CPU emulation to WINE, by integrating the QEmu project, when Apple ditched the PowerPC series for ix86, that development effort pretty much ended.
So at this stage, WINE needs to run on an ix86 CPU to work effectively. The iPhone uses an ARM CPU, which does not support the ix86 instruction set. Even if Apple allowed WINE to run on an iPhone (currently it would violate the rules unless bundled with a closed app that works as the entry point for the WINE app and doesn't result in anything outside of the WINE libraries and application itself from being executed), it would not be effective as a way to run Windows apps on the iPhone platform.
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Well, this is actually an answer to a question asked by the Fortune 500. Even if they intended to write native clients for their custom apps, this sort of things gives them flexibility.
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Not entirely true, the Citrix client has the capability of local file access, hardware access such as audio, local printer access, and a few other goodies. There are plenty of hooks into the client, if you opt to enable them.
While they're claiming the apps will actually run on the iPhone, they run on a back end server and are displayed on the phone. If you're familiar with Unix, think X server, but with security and compression.
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An ARM would choke emulating an x86 anyway. In fact even if you recompiled the x86 binaries to run on Arm it would still suck because desktop class x86s like Core2 have a higher clock rate, are out of order, have big caches and fast SDRAM.
An iPhone apparently has a ARM1176JZF running at ~400Mhz. The fastest ARM a QCT Snapdragon ARM at 1Ghz will most likely be slower than the slowest netbook class x86, an Intel Atom at 1.6Ghz.
Of course ARM uses much less power, but for single thread integer performance ARM is in a completely different class from x86.
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You mean ssh -CX, which everyone is using? You sound as if security and compression were unavailable for X, and the opposite is true.
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