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Milky Way Heavier Than Thought, and Spinning Faster

An anonymous reader writes "The Milky Way is spinning much faster and has 50 per cent more mass than previously believed. This means the Milky Way is equivalent in size to our neighbor Andromeda — instead of being the little sister in the local galaxy group, as had been believed. One implication of this new finding is that we may collide with Andromeda sooner than we had thought, in 2 or 3 billion years instead of 5."

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  1. The good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least now we don't have to worry about our sun going nova, we'll all die in an intergalactic traffic accident first.

    1. Re:The good news by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny

      At least now we don't have to worry about our sun going nova, we'll all die in an intergalactic traffic accident first. Probably not. Even when galaxies collide, the odds of something hitting the solar system are remote.

      But the night sky will look even prettier for the future cockroach decedents, if they have evolved enough to "look up" by then.

      Personally, I plan on being dead in a time span that measures in decades, not billions of years.

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    2. Re:The good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I know you're trying to be funny but when the two galaxies do meet, the odds are no stars will collide.

    3. Re:The good news by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hope we're insured. Imagine if the other guy sues!

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    4. Re:The good news by Deadstick · · Score: 5, Informative

      the future cockroach decedents

      They'll be the descendants. We'll be the decedents.

      rj

    5. Re:The good news by click2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was hoping to win a Darwin Award in a few billion years for 'collided with another galaxy'

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    6. Re:The good news by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Funny

      English is wonderfully ambiguous, at times (no pun intended).

      Given billions of years, either word could work, and neither will be relevant :-)

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  2. I'll be counting the days by Kohath · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..on my Zune

  3. Reassuring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    For a while there I was worried it had dropped down to 1 billion years.

    1. Re:Reassuring by digitalunity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No can do.

      However, we may be able to dupe this tomorrow and then again a few years from now when its on Digg.

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  4. Science by maz2331 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One thing that is great about science is that it does have a way of eventually finding errors and correcting them in the face of new evidence.

    As far as galactic collisions are concerned, we are in no immediate danger. 2-3 Gy vs 5 is an academic exercise, as the Sun will most likely increase its output sufficiently by then to boil off the Earth's oceans anyway,

    Besides, the density of a galaxy (outside of the core) is so low that the chance of a stellar or planetary collision is negligable anyway.

    Or, by then, we would have the technology to detect it and either deflect it or GTFO of the way anyhow.

    Still, it is nice to know we're not in the pipsqueak galaxy. Hoorah!?!?

    1. Re:Science by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Still, it is nice to know we're not in the pipsqueak galaxy. Hoorah!?!?

      The Miiilky Waaay... Fuck, yeah!

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    2. Re:Science by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Besides, the density of a galaxy (outside of the core) is so low that the chance of a stellar or planetary collision is negligable anyway.

      I've read that a bigger risk is that of a nearby super-nova. The collision will likely trigger extreme star formation due to the stirring up of interstellar gas. Thus, it will be quite a fire-works show for a while.
           

  5. Declaration of inter-galactic hostilities by dfsmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, that'll show those Andromedans not to attack "smaller" galaxies. Now who's laughing! We will plunder their mass (while watching colateral ejected mass fly out).

    1. Re:Declaration of inter-galactic hostilities by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, that'll show those Andromedans not to attack "smaller" galaxies. Now who's laughing! We will plunder their mass...

      So your saying that in the final climactic battle between forces beyond human comprehension - I'm stuck on the pirate side? Dammit!!

      Ninjdromeda's gonna kick our ass...physics be damned!

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  6. last chance for backup! by somewhere+in+AU · · Score: 5, Funny

    oh well.. still leaves plenty of time to debate which is the most robust backup method after all then?

  7. I for one... by alexborges · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thought I was drunk.

    Good to know it was the milky way spinning all too fast.

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  8. They've already filmed it... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting
  9. Way Heavier Than Thought, and Spinning Faster by bobdotorg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ugh. Sounds like scientists just discovered my last blind date.

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  10. Re:I haven't read the paper, but... by boot_img · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually the orbital velocity is (surprisingly) close to constant, as in most spiral galaxies. In fact, it is these "flat" (i.e. constant as a function of galactocentric radius) rotation curves that were some of the earliest evidence for dark matter.

    That having been said, my guess is that the velocities quoted in the press release refer to the Sun's (or more accurately the Local Standard of Rest's) velocity around the Galactic center.

    Couldn't find the paper on arxiv.org ...

     

  11. Re:Good news everybody! by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tell that to the fat guy who got shot with a rifle round. He has a 600,000% weight advantage, yet he's still in ICU on a respirator.

    Fat man 0, Remington 1.

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  12. Re:From TFA by thomasferraro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "...the galaxy is rotating at a speed of 965,600 km/h, compared to previous estimates of 804,672 km/h, the astronomers report."

    Anyone else think it odd that the previous estimate had six significant digits, yet was apparently off by ~20%?

  13. Re:From TFA by Quinapalus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think my chemistry teacher would have taken off points for that one.

  14. Re:From TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The odd thing is not the estimate (500,000 mph has one significant digit) but its conversion to km/h.

  15. Ahah! by sleeponthemic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Twice as heavy! Talk about getting it wrong.

    It's only a matter of time before the earth's age is readjusted to 6000 years!

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  16. Heavy thoughts??? by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do you mean there is a problem with gravity in the future?

  17. Re:From TFA by thomasferraro · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thank you, makes much more sense now. Agence France-Presse strikes again. They converted mph to km/hr VERY precisely.

    965,600 km/h = 600,000 mph
    804,672 km/h = 500,000 mph

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  18. Re:From TFA: by aXis100 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The visble arms of our galaxy's spiral aren't a fixed buch of stars clustered togther, it's a density wave that travels around the disk. Our solar system will pass in and out of various arms (eventually) as the density wave is travelling at a different speed to the actual rotation.

  19. Re:hello... by 12WTF$ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can we all just agree that it's Way Milkier?

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  20. Re:hello... by l3v1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, mass will only have weight in a gravitational field, where indeed more mass means more weight. Otherwise, more mass only means more inertia.

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