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Rare Venomous Mammal Filmed

Smivs writes "The BBC are reporting that footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists. Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew. It can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite. Dr Sam Turvey, a ZSL (Zoological Society of London) researcher involved with the program, told BBC News: 'It is an amazing creature — it is one of the most evolutionary distinct mammals in the world.' Along with the other species of solenodon, which is found in Cuba (Solenodon cubanus), it is the only living mammal that can actually inject venom into their prey through specialized teeth. Little is known about the creature, which is found in the Caribbean, but it is under threat from deforestation, hunting and introduced species. Researchers say conservation efforts are now needed. The mammal was filmed in the summer of 2008 during a month-long expedition to the Dominican Republic — one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found (the other is Haiti). The researchers from the Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust and the Ornithological Society of Hispaniola were able to take measurements and DNA from the creature before it was released."

233 comments

  1. Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The footage came from the District of Columbia.

    1. Re:Let me guess... by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Wow. Now Microsoft is responsible for venomous mammals too. What a shocker!

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    2. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a shocker!

      That's what she said.

  2. Wow by ciaohound · · Score: 5, Funny

    The BBC are reporting that footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists.

    What will slashdot be without Cowboy Neal?

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    1. Re:Wow by Shagg · · Score: 4, Funny

      The BBC are reporting that footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists.

      A Slashdot member with a girlfriend?

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    2. Re:Wow by tritonman · · Score: 0, Troll

      Do we really need to conserve a species that can kill us and obviously isn't needed in the food chain?

    3. Re:Wow by Reziac · · Score: 2, Funny

      And if I were that ugly, I'd *welcome* extinction!!

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    4. Re:Wow by Talderas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The mammal was filmed in the summer of 2008 during a month-long expedition to the Dominican Republic â" one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found (the other is Haiti).

      I'd be a little perplexed if Haiti didn't have the animal in it, IT SHARES THE SAME GOD DAMN ISLAND with the Dominican Republic.

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    5. Re:Wow by Thiez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can it even kill us? I couldn't find any information about how dangerous the venom was. Even if a bite could kill a human, that wouldn't make these creatures more dangerous that many types of insects, spiders, and snakes, and these poor critters are extremely rare and both variants of solenodons live on islands.

      Anyway, you can kill people too and you as an individual are (obviously) not needed in the food chain, nor is your family. If I were you I'd hope others hold life in a higher regard than you do.

    6. Re:Wow by Tim+Doran · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is slashdot - that little animal is considered quite a looker!

    7. Re:Wow by ichthyoboy · · Score: 1

      Do we really need to conserve a species that can kill us

      From TFS

      one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found

      Unless you're a large beetle, I don't think you have much to worry about...

      and obviously isn't needed in the food chain

      but with that attitude, maybe I spoke too soon....

    8. Re:Wow by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, I did have that thought.. but I'm an *aging* geek, and over time I've developed higher standards. Gotta be pretty as a hedgehog at the very least.

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    9. Re:Wow by khallow · · Score: 1

      Do we really need to conserve a species that can kill us and obviously isn't needed in the food chain?

      No, I like humans.

    10. Re:Wow by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      Wow, /. mating standards have really dropped. What happened to gerbils? And when you put a hedgehog in your ass, you'd better hope that he turns around before he tries to shimmy back out!

    11. Re:Wow by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd be a little perplexed if Haiti didn't have the animal in it, IT SHARES THE SAME GOD DAMN ISLAND with the Dominican Republic.

      Yeah, but if they had said it was native to Hispaniola most of us Americans wouldn't have a clue what they were talking about ;)

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    12. Re:Wow by interploy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed. This thing makes an opossum looks like a sexy beast.

    13. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anyway, you can kill people too and you as an individual are (obviously) not needed in the food chain, nor is your family. If I were you I'd hope others hold life in a higher regard than you do.

      While I'm not in favor of wanton destruction of animal life, and conservation is a goal we should strive toward, but your analogy is specious. A human life is superior to an animal's life.

      And if you disagree, you best think twice before you swat a fly, eat a hamburger, or enjoy produce or goods that were harvested, in part, by the forced labor of animals.

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    14. Re:Wow by mattkime · · Score: 1

      >>I'd be a little perplexed if Haiti didn't have the animal in it, IT SHARES THE SAME GOD DAMN ISLAND with the Dominican Republic.

      Despite sharing the same GOD DAMN ISLAND, economic and environmental conditions are extremely different.

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    15. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Do we really need to conserve a species that can kill us and obviously isn't needed in the food chain?"

      How dare you talk about Apple computers that way!

    16. Re:Wow by UncleTogie · · Score: 0

      A human life is superior to an animal's life.

      Why?

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    17. Re:Wow by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Or maybe his girlfriend.

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    18. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A human life is superior to an animal's life.

      Why?

      Depends who you ask. I content we are because we are capable of intelligent thought and self-awareness. Douglas Hofstadter would tell you it's because we have a larger "soul" than animals (see this interview). More religious folk might tell you it's because God created us in his image and made the animals for our service.

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life. How could they justify eating meat, that would be tantamount to eating a fellow human's flesh. How could they justify hitting an animal while driving, and continuing on their way. That would be equivalent to hitting and injuring or killing another person and just driving along on your way. How would they defend eating crops plowed by cows - that would be akin to slave labor. (Granted, that's not much of a concern in today's mechanized farms.)

      So I ask you: why isn't a human's life superior to an animal's?

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    19. Re:Wow by Jason+Levine · · Score: 0

      If a Slashdot member with a girlfriend is rare, what does that make me? I'm a Slashdot member with a wife and two sons.

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    20. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it is thrown at you at a very high speed that could probably be leathal.

    21. Re:Wow by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 4, Funny

      A lie?

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    22. Re:Wow by Thiez · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > A human life is superior to an animal's life.

      Fair enough, but is a single human life superior to a complete species of mammals? I can't say I'd care much if tritonman killed a solenodon. But let's go WAAAAAY offtopic and consider a hypothetical situation wherin he is able and willing to destroy ALL solenodon and the only way to stop him is to kill him (he is standing next to his custom built solenodon doomsday device and about to press 'on', you have a chance to take him out with your sniper rifle)? What if he wasn't exterminating solenodon but cows?

    23. Re:Wow by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I was under the impression that a hedgehog was a one-way trip (which probably explains why they're so much pricier than gerbils). Of course, I imagine how well the trip, uh, comes out depends on which way it starts...

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    24. Re:Wow by UncleTogie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let me start out by saying that I'm playing devil's advocate here. I wear leather and love a good steak.

      Depends who you ask. I content we are because we are capable of intelligent thought and self-awareness.

      Dolphins, elephants, and other animals have demonstrated the same. While it may be at a lower level, it may not be that far off in OUR evolutionary history, either. Do they count?

      More religious folk might tell you it's because God created us in his image and made the animals for our service.

      If you read those biblical passages closely, you might notice that we were called to have dominion over the animal kingdom. Can't have dominion over something if you've hunted it into nonexistance.

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life. How could they justify eating meat, that would be tantamount to eating a fellow human's flesh.

      While it may not be superior, it wouldn't be inferior, either. I'd point at Native Americans for a good example of respect for nature, while not starving.

      Just another point of view to ponder...

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    25. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 1

      Fair enough, but is a single human life superior to a complete species of mammals?

      The answer is still that the human life is superior to the animal (or animals, as the case may be). The question as to whether we need to stop mass killing is still phrased in terms of human impact. I would say we need to stop someone from killing all cows, but not because I feel empathy for the cows that would die but b/c their mass slaughter would gravely impact humans around the world.

      And I'd encourage the authorities to stop the mass extinctor by means that do not lead to his death.

      I'm not pro-killing animals. I don't think it's right to torture animals or kill them wantonly. But I don't think it's wrong to put animals to work or to kill them humanely for our benefit, and I certainly hold the life of a human in higher regard than an animal, or many animals.

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    26. Re:Wow by Reziac · · Score: 1

      True... in fact I'm wondering if there's an uglier mammal anywhere!

      [looking around]

      I meant *outside* of slashdot, you insensitive clods!!

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    27. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can it even kill us? I couldn't find any information about how dangerous the venom was.

      Deadly? No. Probably hurts like hell, though. It is certainly not as dangerous as the copperheads and rattlesnakes that are abundant near my house, and I'm not worried that one of those is going to kill me even if I actually get bitten.

      I also have venomous short-tailed shrews in my back yard, but they are tiny and probably can't hurt anything bigger than a wolf spider. They definitely aren't any match for the cat.

    28. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wouldn't be so worried about eating another human's flesh. I would rather eat a non-human's flesh, but, cherishing the nutrition providing by the body of one of my brethren is still laudable (see Stranger in a Strange Land). If an animal was hungry and ate me, I wouldn't be particularly upset. I would think, "This really sucks, there are still things I wanted to do in my life," but I would *not* think, "This is despicable! This is a lower life form DESECRATING a holy man created in God's own image!"

      I'll eat hamburgers, but if a lion tried to eat me, I would defend myself as any hunted animal does. If I succeeded, I would be grateful. If I failed, I would not blame the lion for being hungry and getting food.

      If I hit an animal while driving, I *do* feel bad. If at all possible, I stop, and see if the animal is okay. If it might not be okay, I take any action I can. If an animal trampled me inadvertently, then I, similarly, would not be much upset. If I can't stop nearby, I still find a safe place to stop and make a phone call to the police, department of transportation, or an animal hospital or rescue society, which are obviously very similar to what I would do if I had hit a human and could not safely stop nearby.

      As for slave labor, many, many species toil for the sake of another (ofter inadvertently, but sometimes for symbiosis). I feel really bad about man abusing animals, and I think that if a man needs the help of an animal, he should go far, far out of his way to recompensate the animal (treating it with respect, taking care of all of its needs, etc).

      Maybe I'm different than most?

      -os

    29. Re:Wow by Shagg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mythical?

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    30. Re:Wow by spinlight · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, if you RTFA, there is a picture and a caption indicating that a population was found in Haiti... This isn't even speculative. ;-)

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    31. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      That makes you a "candidate for further research"

    32. Re:Wow by Shagg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Despite sharing the same GOD DAMN ISLAND, economic and environmental conditions are extremely different.

      Good point. These critters wouldn't want to stay if they couldn't get a decent job.

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    33. Re:Wow by SmlFreshwaterBuffalo · · Score: 2, Funny

      If a Slashdot member with a girlfriend is rare, what does that make me? I'm a Slashdot member with a wife and two sons.

      You're clearly schizophrenic. Get help.

    34. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I hit an animal while driving, I *do* feel bad. If at all possible, I stop, and see if the animal is okay. If it might not be okay, I take any action I can. If an animal trampled me inadvertently, then I, similarly, would not be much upset. If I can't stop nearby, I still find a safe place to stop and make a phone call to the police, department of transportation, or an animal hospital or rescue society, which are obviously very similar to what I would do if I had hit a human and could not safely stop nearby.

      Those smears on your windshield aren't cloud farts. If you're stopping "every time you hit an animal," then you must not get very far when you drive. Unless you mean you stop whenever you hit a cute / fuzzy sort of animal?

    35. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here.

    36. Re:Wow by jahudabudy · · Score: 1

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life. How could they justify eating meat, that would be tantamount to eating a fellow human's flesh.

      How about: human life is not superior to animal life, but my life is superior to all other life? Perfectly morally consistent. Not admirable, but consistent.

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    37. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sure, same island. Of course, Haiti has essentially no trees...

    38. Re:Wow by theodicey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd be a little perplexed if Haiti didn't have the animal in it, IT SHARES THE SAME GOD DAMN ISLAND with the Dominican Republic.

      Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it were completely extinct in Haiti but hanging on in the Dominican Republic, considering the stark difference in the condition of the native forests.

    39. Re:Wow by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

      The snout looks like it's not really part of the animal. I'd say burn it, but we better ask Sir Bedevere to be sure.

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    40. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 1

      How about: human life is not superior to animal life, but my life is superior to all other life? Perfectly morally consistent. Not admirable, but consistent.

      That is even harder to live a morally consistent life by, unless you're an utter sociopath. If human life is not superior to animal life (except for yours) then you should feel the same emotions when you eat a human vs. eat a cow, you would feel the same level of remorse when striking a raccoon with your car as you would running over a toddler.

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    41. Re:Wow by gameboyhippo · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you missed the joke. I have a wife and a daughter as well, but I thought it was funny.

    42. Re:Wow by Warshadow · · Score: 1

      A sucker? ;)

    43. Re:Wow by camperdave · · Score: 1

      I'm Paul McCarney, you insensitive clod!

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    44. Re:Wow by Zerth · · Score: 1

      Do we really need to conserve a species that can kill us and obviously isn't needed in the food chain?

      .

      No, I like humans.

      .

      Especially in a cream sauce.

    45. Re:Wow by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Dang keyboard... McCartney. With a "t".... Crap! Can I get a do-over?

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    46. Re:Wow by fugue · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hard sayin'. You haven't told us whether you have a girlfriend.

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    47. Re:Wow by Guido+von+Guido · · Score: 1

      If a Slashdot member with a girlfriend is rare, what does that make me? I'm a Slashdot member with a wife and two sons.

      You, sir, are an affront to an old and tired Slashdot joke. Did I say tired? I meant cherished. Old and cherished. But definitely old.

    48. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WOW, what a stupid, fucking fag! LOL you just pwnd yourself, n00b. Go back to Loserville, population YUO!

    49. Re:Wow by TimSSG · · Score: 1

      While it may not be superior, it wouldn't be inferior, either. I'd point at Native Americans for a good example of respect for nature, while not starving.

      The Native Americans sure "respected" the Woolly Mammoths; till they killed them all off. Tim S

    50. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what does that make me?

      far too impressed with yourself for following your biological imperatives

    51. Re:Wow by rubah · · Score: 1

      But the rest of us were perplexed at this inelegant way to state the obvious!

    52. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While it may not be superior, it wouldn't be inferior, either.

      Superior: >
      Equal: =
      Inferior: <

      If it's not superior, and it's not inferior, then it's equal, which is what the parent is arguing against. Math, it works bitches.

    53. Re:Wow by khallow · · Score: 1

      Especially in a cream sauce.

      Well, it does move them into the food chain.

    54. Re:Wow by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

      mmmmmm... cream sauce. aaaaaaaagghhhh

    55. Re:Wow by Kingrames · · Score: 1

      I suppose he's referring to what kinds of jobs there are. namely if the snipe hunter trade is booming in one country but not the other, for example.

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    56. Re:Wow by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      Check the porn store, in the inflatable section.

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    57. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're very confused about what human superiority, or the lack thereof, means.

      It's possible to believe that humans are not superior to animals while still recognizing their differences. For instance, cows like to eat grass. It's what they do. You seem to be saying that, if I don't believe humans are superior, then I should advocate for animals to be treated as humans in ALL ways. For obvious reasons, that's not true.

      It seems likely (though impossible to verify) that sentience is not a binary condition and that we have a more elevated version of it than most animals. However, the only value system where that matters is your arbitrarily constructed one. A human life isn't superior to an animal life because superiority is impossible. There is no scale. The universe doesn't give a damn how smart you are.

    58. Re:Wow by jahudabudy · · Score: 1

      I was going to mention kuru in response to your implied assumption that moral repugnance is the motivating impulse behind the human revulsion towards cannibalism (which I agree with you on, I was just feeling contrary) when I remembered Mad Cow, which completely invalidates that point. However, I was reminded of cultures that practice endocannibalism, which is an interesting concept when discussing the moral implications of cannibalism.

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    59. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to Loserville, population YUO!

      I guess you mean population:two.

    60. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 1

      However, I was reminded of cultures that practice endocannibalism, which is an interesting concept when discussing the moral implications of cannibalism.

      I think things like endocannibalism strengthens my point. I'm not saying that cannibalism is wrong, but rather that in order for one to hold humans and animals lives on the same plane, then the emotions one feels when eating a human should be synonymous to those when eating a cow. While I've not met anyone who practices endocannibalism, I think it's safe to say that the experience is not akin to eating a hamburger. Rather, (I assume) consuming part of the remains of your lost relative is a solemn, moving, grieving, emotional experience, whereas eating a hamburger is just lunch.

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    61. Re:Wow by jackspenn · · Score: 1

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life.

      I think the idea that animal and human life are equal is insane, but this post got me thinking. If you do believe that all life is equal, meaning an ant is equal to a dog is equal to a person, are your morally required to can out all predatory animals? If you believe people are bad for killing animals, do you also view dolphins (big time killers) as bad? Do you consider how bad killing is based on lives lost or on volume? I mean if you go by lives lost then Whales and fish that eat krill are way worst then people, course same is true if you go by volume, so are you anti-whale? Would people who eat dozens of chicken a year be worse then people who eat one or two cows? See by placing human life above animals I don't have these moral problems, I can eat my meat and laugh at vegans too.

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    62. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stingrays were non-lethal, until the beloved risk taker Mr. Irwin got too close. Really it's not too likely, though IANA Biologist but I think most species have specialised venoms for their prey and only coincidentally affect us. Assuming we're not their prey that is. Most venoms will be toxic and do bad shit to you, but aren't necessaryly lethal.

    63. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No - the girlfriend lies along the imaginary axis

    64. Re:Wow by RadioElectric · · Score: 1

      "You have found a scroll of genocide!" "What class of monsters do you wish to genocide?"

    65. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trolls.

    66. Re:Wow by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      If you read those biblical passages closely, you might notice that we were called to have dominion over the animal kingdom. Can't have dominion over something if you've hunted it into nonexistance.

      "Domain" over the animals implies that we act responsibly towards them, just as kings who have domain over their subjects must act responsibly.

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life. How could they justify eating meat, that would be tantamount to eating a fellow human's flesh.

      That is why God gave us dietary laws, Hadid (Muslims) and Kashrut (Jews). I do not understand why the Christians do not obey the dietary laws.

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    67. Re:Wow by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it were completely extinct in Haiti but hanging on in the Dominican Republic, considering the stark difference in the condition of the native forests.

      Lots of political borders look like that. Look at the Israeli / Egyptian border for a really exaggerated version:
      http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=31.052934,34.332275&spn=7.403502,9.041748&t=h&z=7

      Guess who waters their crops (between rockets falling, of course!).

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    68. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope... you're not alone in that general viewpoint. I guess I'm similar, however probably on the "not so nice" side of things as yourself.

      I don't consider humans "in general" to be any more valued than any other creature. But that's primarily because I don't view any particular creature as being significant or interesting. I've got good friends that are humans, and good friends that are cats. I'd be equally upset if a member of either group were to die. I'd be completely nonplussed if a human being that I didn't know (and had no effect on my life) died, and equally nonplussed if a cat that I didn't know (and had no effect on my life) died.

      I'm aware that society and the law doesn't look at it the same way that I do though, and thus if I hit a human being on the road, I will behave differently than if I hit an animal. It's not because I actually care any more about the human, just that there's a greater chance of it having a negative impact on my life ("fleeing an accident scene", "manslaughter" etc are much worse charges than not reporting you ran over a dog).

    69. Re:Wow by YttriumOxide · · Score: 1

      Since I generally play as a Wizard, I'll go for "a" if I'm low level (DIE Soldier Ants!) or "h" if I'm higher to get rid of the Mind Flayers (don't care about the dwarves of course, they're just "casualties of war")

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    70. Re:Wow by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 1

      >> that would be tantamount to eating a fellow human's flesh.

      it only seems weird the first couple times.

    71. Re:Wow by Urkki · · Score: 1

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life.

      Hardly. For example it would be perfectly consistent to consider any individual human more valuable than any individual other animal, while still thinking that a population of animals is more valuable than an individual human, and/or thinking that a species of animals is more valuable than a population of humans.

      With moral values something like this, if there was a choice between extinction of a species, and moving almost all humans out of an area to be made a nature preserve, then it's a no-brainer that humans need to move, if that will prevent an entire species from going extinct.

      Now you're free disagree with this, but that doesn't make it inconsistent.

    72. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 1

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life.

      Hardly. For example it would be perfectly consistent to consider any individual human more valuable than any individual other animal, while still thinking that a population of animals is more valuable than an individual human, and/or thinking that a species of animals is more valuable than a population of humans.

      There are farmers who raise a population of chickens for eggs and meat for no one but themselves, an individual. If your moral code values a population of animals greater than an individual human, how can you sit there and not do something to put a stop to such injustices?

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      I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.

    73. Re:Wow by Urkki · · Score: 1

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life.

      Hardly. For example it would be perfectly consistent to consider any individual human more valuable than any individual other animal, while still thinking that a population of animals is more valuable than an individual human, and/or thinking that a species of animals is more valuable than a population of humans.

      There are farmers who raise a population of chickens for eggs and meat for no one but themselves, an individual. If your moral code values a population of animals greater than an individual human, how can you sit there and not do something to put a stop to such injustices?

      What are you talking about? The farmer is keeping those chickens alive, isn't he? If he stops maintaining them, all of them die... So assuming "cruelty to animals" stuff is in order and chickens aren't essentially tortured, I'd say that's rather a sweet deal for that group of chickens... Then they're much better off than any wild birds, who will be hungry much of the time, are plagued by parasites, and are likely to die in some nasty, excruciatingly painful way.

      (Not to mention, a farm-full of domesticated chickens is not a distinct population as far as I can see.)

    74. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 1

      It would be hard for one who has the moral conviction that human life is not superior to animal life to live a morally consistent life.

      Hardly. For example it would be perfectly consistent to consider any individual human more valuable than any individual other animal, while still thinking that a population of animals is more valuable than an individual human, and/or thinking that a species of animals is more valuable than a population of humans.

      There are farmers who raise a population of chickens for eggs and meat for no one but themselves, an individual. If your moral code values a population of animals greater than an individual human, how can you sit there and not do something to put a stop to such injustices?

      What are you talking about? The farmer is keeping those chickens alive, isn't he? If he stops maintaining them, all of them die... So assuming "cruelty to animals" stuff is in order and chickens aren't essentially tortured, I'd say that's rather a sweet deal for that group of chickens... Then they're much better off than any wild birds, who will be hungry much of the time, are plagued by parasites, and are likely to die in some nasty, excruciatingly painful way.

      There are a lot of poor, starving folk in third-world nations who, in their current conditions, suffer from famine, disease, warfare, and other natural and social ills. How about we put them in a facility where they would be fed and have their other essential needs met. The only conditions is that scientists could extract fertilized eggs of the females for experiment and, when the adults reached a certain age they could be slaughtered and eaten. Also, when new children were born, they might be sold or sent to other facilities, separated from their parents at birth.

      Such a notion seems absurd when put in the context of humans, but you argue that it's perfectly OK for chickens. Why is that? Clearly there is a moral difference in the eyes of humans between humans and animals. It's there in each and every one of us. And those who claim otherwise are either lying to themselves or are living a morally inconsistent life.

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    75. Re:Wow by Urkki · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? The farmer is keeping those chickens alive, isn't he? If he stops maintaining them, all of them die... So assuming "cruelty to animals" stuff is in order and chickens aren't essentially tortured, I'd say that's rather a sweet deal for that group of chickens... Then they're much better off than any wild birds, who will be hungry much of the time, are plagued by parasites, and are likely to die in some nasty, excruciatingly painful way.

      There are a lot of poor, starving folk in third-world nations who, in their current conditions, suffer from famine, disease, warfare, and other natural and social ills. How about we put them in a facility where they would be fed and have their other essential needs met. The only conditions is that scientists could extract fertilized eggs of the females for experiment and, when the adults reached a certain age they could be slaughtered and eaten. Also, when new children were born, they might be sold or sent to other facilities, separated from their parents at birth.

      Ok, you seem to be arguing against something I've never said. I've never said people and other animals are equal. I've just said that in my opinion there are situations where needs of some other animals should be given preference over needs of some people. You seem to think that all humans are unconditionally superior to any animals, and this I disagree with.

      Also, this is not a one-dimensional issue. I think you agree that it's completely ok to severely restrict freedom of a child, even punish the child if they try to do what they're not allowed. Ie. adult is superior to a child and has almost absolute power over their own children. Yet many adults would risk their life to save life of a child (especially but not limited to their own child), ie. life of a child is superior to life of an adult. You probably see this as a contradiction? I don't.

      Such a notion seems absurd when put in the context of humans, but you argue that it's perfectly OK for chickens. Why is that? Clearly there is a moral difference in the eyes of humans between humans and animals. It's there in each and every one of us. And those who claim otherwise are either lying to themselves or are living a morally inconsistent life.

      Why do you think it's clearly a moral difference? What if it is just a biological or ecological or social or cultural difference between chicken and people, and that makes it ok or not ok?

      But of course there's a difference between humans and other animals. There's also a difference between, say, elephants and other animals (including humans). I don't see either difference as a moral difference.

    76. Re:Wow by Skim123 · · Score: 1

      Ok, you seem to be arguing against something I've never said. I've never said people and other animals are equal. I've just said that in my opinion there are situations where needs of some other animals should be given preference over needs of some people. You seem to think that all humans are unconditionally superior to any animals, and this I disagree with.

      My involvement in this discussion started when Thiez said: "Anyway, you can kill people too and you as an individual are (obviously) not needed in the food chain, nor is your family. If I were you I'd hope others hold life in a higher regard than you do."

      If you read my direct reply to Thiez I said: "While I'm not in favor of wanton destruction of animal life, and conservation is a goal we should strive toward, but your analogy is specious. A human life is superior to an animal's life." That has been my argument this entire discussion, not that humans are always superior to animals in every single way, but rather that human life is superior to animal life.

      People then replied and tried to construct counter-examples. But my point was that it's very difficult to have a counter-example - namely, a person that thinks that human life is not superior to animal life - and have that hypothetical person be morally consistent. Do you disagree?

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    77. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a Slashdot member with a girlfriend. But, to be fair, she is a computer geek too (and was the official technology expert for her family whilst whe was married).

    78. Re:Wow by pacinpm · · Score: 1

      (...) Native Americans (...)

      They are called Indians.

  3. Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by PK+Tech+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously they never met my ex-girlfriend...

    1. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by Leafheart · · Score: 1

      And let the woman jokes begin. Anyone can please pass me the coconut, this shall be a fun ride.

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    2. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by neonux · · Score: 1

      A girlfriend?? You must be new..

      oh wait.. ex

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    3. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by zappepcs · · Score: 1

      I kind of feel sorry for these scientists. I'm guessing these scientists are not familiar with the dating scene?

      'It is an amazing creature â" it is one of the most evolutionary distinct mammals in the world.' .... it is the only living mammal that can actually inject venom into their prey...

      Yep, in the movie 'Species' when they are explaining to Madson why the alien is a female... he replies "you don't get out much, do you?"

    4. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by Diamon · · Score: 2, Funny

      You dated a platypus?

    5. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      Obviously they never met my ex-girlfriend...

      If your girlfriend was the one injecting stuff then you should have started a website to cash in ;)

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    6. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      Kill her with fire!!!

    7. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by johanwanderer · · Score: 1

      Obviously they never met my ex-girlfriend...

      Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew

    8. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by ozbird · · Score: 2, Funny

      You dated a male platypus?

    9. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How should I pass you the coconut? By an African or European swallow?

    10. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

      An African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow.

  4. snipe hunting by skydude_20 · · Score: 4, Funny

    i told you it was real

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    1. Re:snipe hunting by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      Except in Communist Cuba, snipe hunts you!

  5. So cute! by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    and yet, so deadly.

    WARNING: Do not pet the Hispaniolan for it's cuteness can kill!!!

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  6. Rare Venomous Mammal by Chabo · · Score: 1

    Rare Venomous Mammal

    Is it a Klingon who keeps the venom in a sac on the side of his jaw, and goes after amphibian women?

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    1. Re:Rare Venomous Mammal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for making me remember the worst TNG episode ever. :(

    2. Re:Rare Venomous Mammal by Chabo · · Score: 1

      Not true, there are plenty of other episodes that were far worse.

      Hell, the episode directly before that one was terrible, IMO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Beholder_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

      And just about any episode with Troi's mother, but here's my least favorite even among those: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_Living_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

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    3. Re:Rare Venomous Mammal by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      Gotta disagree here. I've never seen any other character that was able to steamroll over Picard, Worf, Riker, Deanna Troi, AND Q with the ease that Lwaxana did. That was half the fun!

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    4. Re:Rare Venomous Mammal by Chabo · · Score: 1

      I don't mind her, but even if you like the character, her episodes were usually bad.

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    5. Re:Rare Venomous Mammal by dprovine · · Score: 1

      As bad as those were, TNG Genesis is worse because it's factually stupid.

      We don't know about Klingon emotional development, or about whether psychics can absorb energy from warp engines, since none of that stuff exists.

      But anyone with even a vague understanding of cladistics knows that Barclay has NO genetic material for the distinctive features of a spider. (See this video on cladistics.)

      The episode contained evolutionary rubbish of the worst kind. If "humans could de-evolve into spider-things" is what people think of Darwinian teaching, it's no wonder so many people are Creationists.

      TNG's "Genesis" makes people who see it stupider, and that's reason enough to rank it all the way down with Voyager's "Threshhold".

    6. Re:Rare Venomous Mammal by Chabo · · Score: 1

      I'd rather be entertained by bad science than bored by bad drama.

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    7. Re:Rare Venomous Mammal by Hatta · · Score: 1

      If you're looking for accurate science, look somewhere else. Genesis was well directed and entertaining, despite the flaws with the writing.

      Voyager's Threshold, on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities whatever.

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  7. Another venemous mammal by nobodyman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew.

    Hey, do we really need to resort to these petty ad hominem attacks when referring to Ann Coulter?

    1. Re:Another venemous mammal by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Wrong animal. You're thinking of the 'Thin, and with a long, large snout' creature, which spews venom somewhat randomly. I say somewhat, because she probably hasn't read this thread yet. Ann Coulter a /.'r? *shudder*

      How appropriate that my captcha for this post is 'danger'...

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    2. Re:Another venemous mammal by ccady · · Score: 1

      Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew.

      Hey, do we really need to resort to these petty ad hominem attacks when referring to Ann Coulter?

      Ad feminem you pedantic, insensitive clod!

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    3. Re:Another venemous mammal by Thaelon · · Score: 1

      Hey, do we really need to resort to these petty ad hominem attacks when referring to Ann Coulter?

      Hey, do we really need to resort to these petty ad hominem attacks when referring to shrews?

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    4. Re:Another venemous mammal by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew.

      Hey, do we really need to resort to these petty ad hominem attacks when referring to Ann Coulter?

      Not in the least. She may be venomous but she's not a mammal.

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    5. Re:Another venemous mammal by xs650 · · Score: 1

      What makes you think that she's a she?

    6. Re:Another venemous mammal by internic · · Score: 1

      "Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew."

      Hey, do we really need to resort to these petty ad hominem attacks when referring to Ann Coulter?

      This can't properly refer to Coulter; One of the defining characteristics of mammals is that they are warm blooded.

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    7. Re:Another venemous mammal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha! And Al Franken looks like a hippo and is a master of election fraud!

      Oh, wait. It's only funny when you're making fun of conservatives. Jerks.

    8. Re:Another venemous mammal by Liberal+Mafia · · Score: 1

      Or solenodons? Come on, they deserve more respect than that.

    9. Re:Another venemous mammal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm, that's not so true. I for once have no problem making fun of the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy. Ann Coulter deserves her own ring of hell though.

    10. Re:Another venemous mammal by rasputin465 · · Score: 1

      she probably hasn't read this thread yet. Ann Coulter a /.'r? *shudder*

      As strange as that would be, it's even stranger that she used to attend Grateful Dead concerts, and still considers herself a fan.

  8. must be pretty small teeth by Luxifer · · Score: 1
    Hmm..

    It can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite

    and later

    this nocturnal, insect-eating animal

    must be pretty small teeth to be able to inject insects with a poison.

    1. Re:must be pretty small teeth by Jabbrwokk · · Score: 1

      I had the same thought. Maybe it's an evolutionary dead end or something.

      From TFA:

      "The fossil record shows that some other now-extinct mammal groups also had so-called dental venom delivery systems. So this might have been a more general ancient mammalian characteristic that has been lost in most modern mammals, and is only retained in a couple of very ancient lineages."

    2. Re:must be pretty small teeth by pseudonymphetamine · · Score: 1

      um, read again. It is the 'Solenodon cubanus which is the only living mammal that can actually inject venom into their prey through specialized teeth.' Whereas, it is the 'Solenodon paradoxus which is the nocturnal, insect-eating mammal.'

  9. I told you all!!! by 2names · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vermicious Knids are real!

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    1. Re:I told you all!!! by curmudgeous · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think it's really a chupacabra.

  10. Cue the ex-wife jokes in... by qw0ntum · · Score: 1

    3... 2... 1...

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  11. The sequel by Killer+Orca · · Score: 3, Funny

    Solenodons On a Plane! Hmmm, doesn't have quite the same ring.

    1. Re:The sequel by CaptainPatent · · Score: 1

      Solenodons On a Plane! Hmmm, doesn't have quite the same ring.

      Meh, just get Samuel L. Jackson to yell it and the rest of the film will work itself out.

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    2. Re:The sequel by ahoehn · · Score: 1

      doesn't have quite the same ring.

      That's because you forgot to add "Motherfucking Solenodons On a Motherfucking Plane!!!!!"

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  12. But it eats only insects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I find it bizarre that this thing needs to inject venom into a little insect. Usually venomous land animals eat prey that is at least their own size or larger. That's what the venom is for, it gives an advantage so the predator can take on large or otherwise dangerous prey.

    1. Re:But it eats only insects? by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      a little insect

      You obviously haven't seen how big insects can get.

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    2. Re:But it eats only insects? by Taibhsear · · Score: 1

      It can also be for defense. If a predator doesn't survive the attack it benefits the other individuals of your species.

      I'm also curious if they are positive this is actually venomous and not like the komodo dragon bite which is just from bacteria and not an actual venom.

    3. Re:But it eats only insects? by AltGrendel · · Score: 1
      If they are as different as the article indicates, it may be that it's a defense mechanism.

      Just a though.

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    4. Re:But it eats only insects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm also curious if they are positive this is actually venomous and not like the komodo dragon bite which is just from bacteria and not an actual venom.

      From TFA:

      Along with the other species of solenodon [...] it is the only living mammal that can actually inject venom into their prey through specialised teeth.

      Emphasis (why is there no <em> tag allowed here?!) mine.

      Hollow teeth don't prove there's real venom flowing through them, but it's highly indicating of it. ;)

    5. Re:But it eats only insects? by Comboman · · Score: 1

      Emphasis (why is there no <em> tag allowed here?!) mine.

      <em> seems to work fine for me (most browsers render <em> as italics).

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    6. Re:But it eats only insects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the droppings we gathered, it seemed to eat only a few species of invertebrates, like centipedes, all relatively small. The argument about the poison is that it take a lot to immobilise insects. We would say it was used for defence only, but shrews are venomous in exactly the same way, although on a smaller scale, as the Solenodon can weigh up to three pounds and they certainly use their venom for predation. Actually, neither injecst it, it is just present in the saliva all the time.

    7. Re:But it eats only insects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to wikipedia, and a discovery channel special I saw, Komodo dragons and several of their relatives actually do have venom.

      The symptoms caused by a bite are indicative of venom. Rapid swelling and immediate shooting pain after a bite would indicate venom, as bacterial infections tend to take much longer to take effect.

    8. Re:But it eats only insects? by Taibhsear · · Score: 1

      Its saliva is frequently blood-tinged, because its teeth are almost completely covered by gingival tissue that is naturally lacerated during feeding. This creates an ideal culture for the virulent bacteria that live in its mouth....Komodo dragons also possess virulent bacteria in their saliva, of which more than 28 Gram-negative and 29 Gram-positive strains have been isolated. These bacteria cause septicemia in their victim; if an initial bite does not kill the prey animal and it escapes, it will commonly succumb within a week to the resulting infection.

      From the wiki page for komodo dragons. Every show I have seen that mentioned the bacteria in the dragons' mouths have attributed the venomous nature of their bite to toxins produced by the bacteria (as opposed to the bacteria growing and dividing). Perhaps new research shows otherwise or a combination of venom and bacterial septicemia but I have not heard about or read any with such results.

    9. Re:But it eats only insects? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Emphasis (why is there no <em> tag allowed here?!) mine.

      <em> seems to work fine for me

      Well, thanks; now that I try it, it works, indeed.

      Oooops. As far as I remember, <em> was missing from the "Allowed HTML" list (I've checked before writing my above comment again). I did never understand why it was missing. Perhaps I should leave my mother's basement for a walk outside ...

      (most browsers render <em> as italics)

      And its meaning is emphasis (instead of strong emphasis), so it's the one you usually need to just add some emphasis to text.

      Sorry for being blind.

      PS: In the preview I see the typeface is regular inside quotes (disable CSS or view the source--<em> is there). Maybe this fact also contributed to my belief it was filtered.

  13. So Ann Coulter is apparently back on tv... by ecolossal · · Score: 1, Redundant

    oh boy...

  14. Well, you know how it's like. by zig007 · · Score: 1

    Passing prey with venom-loaded fangs?
    I guess I'll just have to, for one, be welcoming our new, elusive, venomous, overlords.
    Or wives.

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  15. Of course, it's endangered by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...it is under threat from deforestation, hunting and introduced species.

    They have no clue how many of these things there are, (other than there is more than one but fewer than enough to pave the whole island), but if course they're automatically "endangered" or "under threat" or whatever.

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    1. Re:Of course, it's endangered by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They have no clue how many of these things there are, (other than there is more than one but fewer than enough to pave the whole island), but if course they're automatically "endangered" or "under threat" or whatever

      Hispaniola is not a very large island in terms of area. Considering this critter doesn't seem to be running through the cities, and the cities are expanding, it doesn't seem to be a very large leap to declare it endangered.

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    2. Re:Of course, it's endangered by Muad'Dave · · Score: 0

      Are rats, mice, seagulls, Canadian Geese and pidgeons "endangered"? Cities have only helped them survive. This thing looks 'scavengy' to me - I bet it'll do fine eating sewer rats and other city gunk.

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    3. Re:Of course, it's endangered by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that was the first thing that caught my eye. In one sentence they're basically saying "we know next to nothing about these things, and have only managed to capture one" and then a couple sentences later they're telling us that not only are these creatures endangered, but we know exactly why.

      Right.

      In other news, I've figured out why alien abductions are on the decrease: clearly our excessive CO2 output is impacting the ability of space-aliens to exist in our atmosphere. I'd provide evidence, but I don't want to exceed the BBC's standards for news coverage.

    4. Re:Of course, it's endangered by evanbd · · Score: 2, Informative

      It looks scavengy to you? How nice. Did you read the bit where the people studying it say it eats live prey, and is very specially adapted to doing just that?

    5. Re:Of course, it's endangered by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1
      Actually it seems to be adapted to injecting poison into and eating insects, which is bewildering given its size. It could probably live well on cockroaches instead of mammalian vermin such as mice.

      NB - I watched a documentary on HD Theater the other day that showed a six inch praying mantises attacking a 10 inch corn snake and doing some serious 'much-a-hole-in-your-side' damage to it before the mantis lost its grip. Also, it showed n African variety snatch up a mouse and eat it, as well as a variety that eats hummingbirds. Insect's revenge!

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    6. Re:Of course, it's endangered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Knowing next to nothing in scientific terms would still allow you to write one PhD or two... In the case of the Solenodon, we know almost everything about its biology but they haven't been observed much in the wild and, so far, die in captivity so behaviour is little known. We can guess there are only a few because they are so difficult to find and the purpose of the ZSL-Durrell - SOH study is to try to put a number on the population of at least two separate areas. Having caught only one in one month doesn't help calculate statistics so we need more money to go back and spend more time on the problem. Once we do know how many there are, we can tell from the known human predation and habitat loss how endangered they really are. Again, our guess is, very.

  16. Origin of Species? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Odds are this thing evolved from the legendary The Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka ...

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  17. Vampires by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always thought vampire myths came from Rabies.

    But if the fine article is correct about venemous teeth being an ancient trait of mammals that we evolved out of -- would that mean that ancient humans or apes may have had venomous teeth as well?

    Maybe there's a chupacabra out there riding Nessie around the Loch Ness...

  18. Nerdy Animals by writerjosh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Solenodon paradoxus collects food by digging extensive tunnel systems under the ground, then foraging for insects and other invertebrates from the surrounding soil.

    Foods eaten include: millipedes (Iulides), ground beetles (Carabidae), various orthopteran insects (Gryllidae, Tettigoniidae, Blattidae), earthworms (Lumbricidae) and various types of snails."

    Strange that an animal loaded with venom doesn't go after small mammals or something.

    "Solenodon paradoxus is described as a 'slow mover' and a 'clumsy runner with no agility in avoiding enemies and a poor means of defense'"

    So what you're saying is, Solenodon paradoxus is the nerd of the jungle.

    more interesting facts: http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Solenodon_paradoxus.html

    1. Re:Nerdy Animals by avandesande · · Score: 1

      More venomous mammal info for nerds-

      Another mammal with venom is the Platypus, it has spines in it's armpits that when injected causes unbelievably severe pain.

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    2. Re:Nerdy Animals by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Strange that an animal loaded with venom doesn't go after small mammals or something.

      One might even say it was paradoxical...

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  19. Looks like a possum by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

    Looks like a possum...probably tastes like one, too.

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    1. Re:Looks like a possum by theredshoes · · Score: 1

      It is like a possum and pinocchio had a love child.

  20. Terror of the Fire Swamp by Linux_ho · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rodents of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.

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    1. Re:Terror of the Fire Swamp by MiharuSenaKanaka · · Score: 1

      Sure they do. Most people just use the word "politicians" instead.

    2. Re:Terror of the Fire Swamp by Natetheinfamous · · Score: 1

      Heh... That was totally my first reaction too, It looks exactly like an RUS.

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    3. Re:Terror of the Fire Swamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me help you out here:

      Princess: But what about the R.O.U.S.'s?

      Wesly: Rodents of unusual size? I don't believe they exi...Blaahhhhhaeeughhhh.

  21. From wiki by arugulatarsus · · Score: 1

    As well as having a venomous bite, a solenodon has glands in the armpits and in the groin which allegedly give off a goat-like smell. It readily defends itself against one of its own kind and is apparently not immune to its own venom since animals have been seen to die after fighting and sustaining minor wounds. It also probably attacks other animals savagely judging from the way a captive solenodon was reported to have attacked a young chicken and torn it to pieces with its strong claws, before eating it. In moments of excitement it may grunt like a pig or give bird-like cries, but when pursued it stays motionless and hides its head, making it easy to capture.

    This animal does sound kind of odd. It can rip apart a chicken like a bear, grunt like a pig and smell like a man. I wonder if it's threatened by global warming?

  22. How is it threatened by hunting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they only now found one, how the heck is it threatened by hunting?

  23. ROUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone else getting the R.O.U.S. feeling?

    1. Re:ROUS by sarhjinian · · Score: 1

      I don't think they exist...

      (followed by screaming)

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    2. Re:ROUS by quangdog · · Score: 1

      Yeah, looks just like the Rodents Of Unusual Size from Princess Bride. Freaky.

      Any fireswamps in Haiti?

  24. Poor platypus by argent · · Score: 1

    And all this time I thought the platypus was the only venomous mammal. You learn something new every day.

    1. Re:Poor platypus by shot151 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I didn't know this either, decided to look it up. There are a few more out there... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venomous_mammals

  25. Which is it? by wirehead_rick · · Score: 1

    Large, and with a long, thin snout ... It can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite.

    ... one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found ...

    OK. Large venom injecting animal probably doesn't need venom to eat insects.

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    1. Re:Which is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And humans don't need atomic bombs to gather fruits and berries. Perhaps the venom is to protect itself from predators?

    2. Re:Which is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Article said "Prey". So NOW which is it? Defense against predators or tool for subjugating prey (those rascaly insects are tough to get)?

  26. Mammal poison vs. affection by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    a more general ancient mammalian characteristic that has been lost in most modern mammals, and is only retained in a couple of very ancient lineages.

    How does this work, I wonder? Are the mammals in question actually immune to the poison, or are they just built not to bite themselves somehow? Seems the most likely explanation.

    If the latter though, I wonder if this is related to mammalian affection at all? Lots of mammals seem to be affectionate enough to lick their young/mates, nuzzle, groom peers, playfight, etc...

    1. Re:Mammal poison vs. affection by Jabbrwokk · · Score: 1

      Good point... maybe there's something else that triggers the venom release? Like some kind of "hunting mode" brain chemical? Unfortunately this animal is so elusive they know very little about it.

    2. Re:Mammal poison vs. affection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      How does this work, I wonder? Are the mammals in question actually immune to the poison, or are they just built not to bite themselves somehow?

      Of course--like most mammals--they'd rather not to bite themselves. ;)

      Seriously, venomous animals don't need to be immune to their poison, but they can have other mechanisms to protect themselves, too:

      • The venom usually is only venomous after injection into the bloodstream. This is because either it targets cells other than skin cells ;), or it is injected in an inactive form and only gets activated after being mixed with blood (e. g., it is cleaved by an enzyme, or it reacts to changed pH).
      • The animals retain the venom in specialized glands which don't let the stuff diffuse out into the bloodstream (and, obviously, the cells building the inner lining of these glands must be either resistant to the venom, or they must cover themselves with a protective layer of glycoproteins, special pH and whatnot).
      • The digestive tract (including the mouth) can contain venom-inhibiting substances.

      If the latter though, I wonder if this is related to mammalian affection at all? Lots of mammals seem to be affectionate enough to lick their young/mates, nuzzle, groom peers, playfight, etc...

      Well, the venom usually is only secreted while biting, not while licking. ;) Excretion is controlled by timed contraction of the glands.

      Disclaimer: IANAB (biologist), but IAAMB (molecular biologist); therefore, my talk is just about general principles of how venomous animals can handle their venom. A real biologist could have nice examples of real animals at hand. ;)

    3. Re:Mammal poison vs. affection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the way you self-identify. Most molecular biologists I know get pissed off when I tell them they're not real biologists...

    4. Re:Mammal poison vs. affection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the way you self-identify. Most molecular biologists I know get pissed off when I tell them they're not real biologists...

      Well, thanks ... of course I like molecular biology much more than real biology, especially because I like chemistry so much and most real biologists haven't a clue about chemistry. I like the interdisciplinary flair of it. But still, I know where my field of expertise ends. Everybody should know about their capabilities, but most ... well, ask Socrates about this.

      Biologists who think they're somewhat better than me because they are "the real ones" are as stupid as molecular biologists who think they better because they are more at the root of life. Presumptuous. It's just different and overlapping fields of expertise.

      The same goes for other fields of expertise--craftsmen (like carpenters, electricians, and Joe the Plumber) or even cooks have their field of expertise. Of course, I have a much deeper understanding of physics than most of them, but they have practical experience, and sometimes they know some physics law (or a spice ;)) I forgot long time ago. So, while these people initially are skeptical when first talking to me ("Oh, just another arrogant scientist!), they soon realize that they can exchange knowledge with me. That's fun.

  27. First thought that comes to mind by Catiline · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just from reading this article, I feel like it's the lead in to a Monty Python sketch.

    "And in this cage," (displays empty cage), "we can see the rare Caribbean poisonous shrew, which jumps out and injects its' prey with venom. Bites are instantly fatal, so we have to use extreme..."
    [A brown blur crosses the screen and attacks the speaker's face] "AAAAAAARRRRRRRGH!"

  28. Theme song by chandoni · · Score: 1

    Killer Shrew!
    Killer Shrew!
    Don't know the difference 'tween me and you!
    He comes out at night,
    To give you a fright!
    Don't look now
    But he's gonna take a bite!
    (Down-da-da-down-da-da-down-da-da-down)
    Killer Shrew!
    Killer Shrew!
    K-I-Double L-E-R Shrew
    He's scary and tough!
    If that ain't enough,
    He's augmented with
    Bat mites and stuff!

    --MST3K ode to the Killer Shrews

  29. Invasion of privacy by RKenshin1 · · Score: 1

    How did they get footage of my wife???

  30. Eats insects, but needs venom? by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    If it eats insects, why would it need venomous teeth? It looks like the kind of thing that runs away from bigger animals, so I can't imagine it used in defense. And insects could be swallowed whole.

    Although, I don't know what insects are look in the Dominican Republic... I've seen desert cockroaches bigger than a human hand.

    1. Re:Eats insects, but needs venom? by Trent+Hawkins · · Score: 1

      If it eats insects, why would it need venomous teeth? It looks like the kind of thing that runs away from bigger animals, so I can't imagine it used in defense. And insects could be swallowed whole.

      It eats insects but it hunts humans for sport.

    2. Re:Eats insects, but needs venom? by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

      It could be that we're catching it in between evolutionary leaps. Maybe at one point, the species hunted small or larger mammals, but lately due to resource scarcity, it's been relying on insects and grubs, using it's venom for more defensive purposes.

  31. venomous mammal indeed by big_strick · · Score: 1

    As seen in the image linked in my post at http://www.stricklyjottings.com/node/22

  32. Odd Creature by ilikebees · · Score: 1

    Check out the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispaniolan_Solenodon "Females, even though they have an irregular estrus period that is apparently unrelated to seasonal changes, may have two litters of 1-3 young per year. Usually, only 2 of the offspring (weighing 40 to 55 grams) survive, because the female only has two teats, which are found in a most unusual place: near the buttocks of the animal." "As well as having a venomous bite, a solenodon has glands in the armpits and in the groin which allegedly give off a goat-like smell." "When they do come out, they run on their toes with a stiff ungainly waddle, following an erratic almost zigzag course. The local people claim that solenodons never run in a straight line. Moreover, when a solenodon is alarmed and tries to put on speed it is as likely as not to trip over its own toes or even tumble head-over-heels."

  33. ROUS? by URADingus2 · · Score: 1

    Until I saw the video, I thought maybe they had footage of a real ROUS

  34. Hmm... by sesshomaru · · Score: 1

    Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew. It can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite.

    Good, old-fashioned, nightmare fuel.

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  35. doubtful transition by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    I bet it'll do fine eating sewer rats and other city gunk.

    The article mentions that this critter subsists on a diet of insects. It would be a rather significant step to go from eating invertebrates to eating other mammals.

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    1. Re:doubtful transition by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I mentioned that oversight in another post. I suggested cockroaches would probably do nicely for it. Any maybe those nasty camelback crickets.

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    2. Re:doubtful transition by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      I suggested cockroaches would probably do nicely for it

      Have you ever tried to catch a cockroach? They have survived for hundreds of millions of years because they can avoid predators like almost nothing else. Granted, maybe this mammal is better than most, but I would be surprised if it was indeed capable of eating enough cockroaches to sustain itself.

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    3. Re:doubtful transition by Americano · · Score: 1
      From the wikipedia entry on the Hispaniolan Solenodon:

      Solenodons eat a wide variety of animals, like arthropods, worms and snails, as well as small reptiles; they may also feed on roots, fruits and foliage (however, a study found that solenodons refused all forms of vegetation).

      It also probably attacks other animals savagely judging from the way a captive solenodon was reported to have attacked a young chicken and torn it to pieces with its strong claws, before eating it.

      Doesn't sound like it discriminates *all* that much in terms of what it eats, from the studies they've done of it. So not that much of a significant step, really. The endangered status (again from the wikipedia article) is most likely due to small, infrequent litter sizes (2 litters of 1-3 offspring per year), and predation due to the introduction of cats, dogs, and the Small Asian Mongoose to Hispaniola.

    4. Re:doubtful transition by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      Good point, but this page on Solenodon paradoxus says it eats "various orthopteran insects (Gryllidae, Tettigoniidae, Blattidae)", and Blattidae are a family of roaches. They got that from fecal analysis.

  36. DiFi, Pelosi & Hillary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Or... the Dianne Feinstein / Nancy Pelosi / Hillary Clinton jokes.

    The three Gorgon sisters of politics... and venemous as hell itself... all three of them.

  37. Mammals are different by RudeIota · · Score: 2, Funny

    As we all know, mammals respect political borders.

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    1. Re:Mammals are different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like manatees are very ethical writers.

  38. Fangs by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We discovered a River Otter living in our pond. I was suddenly glad the little guy wasn't poisonous. He was enjoying one of my bluegill for breakfast this am. If he starts eating my bass he could become an endangered species. Cute little rascal, though.

    Wonder why an insect eating mammal needs venom? Those must be some bad ass bugs he's hunting.

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    1. Re:Fangs by argent · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wonder why an insect eating mammal needs venom? Those must be some bad ass bugs he's hunting.

      In Haiti? Voodoo zombie centipedes, at least.

  39. Check out the Adam's apple on Coulter.... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 1

    and then tell us if "feminem" is still appropriate...

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  40. This is why I lose sleep at night by Badmovies · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know that, somewhere, a crazy genetic engineer is holding one of those little venomous beasts in his hand and thinking to himself, "These are cool. I wish they were bigger!"

    His office is right next door to the insane scientist who is trying to breed 40 lb tarantulas, and down the hall from the aquarium-hugging genius who wants to cross flying fish with piranhas.

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    1. Re:This is why I lose sleep at night by Ortega-Starfire · · Score: 1

      I hate to go OT... but I saw your sig and I have to ask...

      Does he beat Uwe Boll in cinematic disasters?

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    2. Re:This is why I lose sleep at night by princessproton · · Score: 1

      This sounds like a great plot for the next Sci-Fi channel original movie (hopefully starring Stephen Baldwin and set in space).

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    3. Re:This is why I lose sleep at night by sesshomaru · · Score: 1

      This makes me think of the movie 28 Days Later. The animal rights activists who break into the lab are set up as naive bringers of disaster, but who thought it was a good idea to turn chimps into monsters in the first place?

      I can just see the grant proposal interview now:

      "So, can you describe your project proposal?"

      "Well, we'll be infecting chimps with rage."

      "What do you mean, infecting them with rage?"

      "Well, the technical details are here and here" [Points to parts of some documents on the table]

      "Oh, very good then, grant approved. You can start immediately. I'm off for a spot of tea, cheerio."

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    4. Re:This is why I lose sleep at night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So we will end up with a poisonous mammal with 6 asses?

    5. Re:This is why I lose sleep at night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Sir,

      Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

      HJS

    6. Re:This is why I lose sleep at night by Badmovies · · Score: 1

      Does he beat Uwe Boll in cinematic disasters?

      I was not able to participate in Raging Boll, where he boxed some Internet critics of his films. I am a bit more physically inclined than the individuals that he faced in that PR stunt.

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    7. Re:This is why I lose sleep at night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that, somewhere, a crazy genetic engineer is holding one of those little venomous beasts in his hand and thinking to himself, "These are cool. I wish they were bigger!

      I'd say your best reference for this is "Killer Shrews", 1962's delightfully on-topic horror movie about rabid-shrew breeding gone amok. Hopefully, we have all learned our lessons about monkeying with god's creation from this movie.

  41. Rare indeed ... by hggs · · Score: 1

    Well, I have to agree with parent post on this. I have lived on the Dominican Republic for 33 years, and had never even heard of these solenodons. Guess it's time to leave the office and see my surroundings every once in a while...

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  42. Obiligatory by chromakey · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new Hispaniolan solenodon overlords!

  43. What about shrews? by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 1

    I mean they're venomous as well. (Well at least some species.) These guys can actually pump it in (keep you minds out of the gutter) instead of it just flowing out? (I said keep your minds out of the gutter.)

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  44. What about Steve? by nickull · · Score: 0, Troll

    "it is the only living mammal that can actually inject venom into their prey through specialized teeth" did they invite Steve Ballmer to this contest? At least the shrew cannot throw a chair very far.

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  45. Rare ? by jacekm · · Score: 1

    I was reading New York Times, and was under the impression, that George Bush can inject venom too. But maybe he is not a mammal ?

    JAM

    1. Re:Rare ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be careful! You heard wrong, the NY Times is the injector! No, it is not a mammal, though...

  46. Re:more like in-laws by BurningTyger · · Score: 2, Funny

    A mammal that injects venom into their prey through specialized teeth?
    Sounds more like the his mother-in-law

  47. n != ñ by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

    they are not the same letter.

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  48. Almost as strange as this one... by ViennaSt · · Score: 1
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  49. I love how... by Slash.Poop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Rare footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists.

    Implies that they somehow, by accident, captured it on video somewhere deep in a jungle. You watch the video and NOPE. It is confinement with handlers. How is that rare footage?

    1. Re:I love how... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Rare because nobody else has it. We caught the animal in a trap as part of a very large effort and only kept it for a few hours while we measured it and collected samples. We released it in a courtyard to see it move (there really is little known about it) then picked it up to bring it back to the exact spot where we found it. We learned tons but still don't have any idea of how many are around. They are certainly limited to very small areas of the Hispaniolan island.

    2. Re:I love how... by LunarCrisis · · Score: 1

      [...] We caught the animal in a trap as part of a very large effort and only kept it for a few hours while we measured it and collected samples [...] then picked it up to bring it back to the exact spot where we found it. [...]

      And to think that people don't believe in UFOs!

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  50. ManBearPig!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about Man Bear Pig?!?!?!?!?! I'm super serial!!!!!!!!!!

  51. God help us ... by wsanders · · Score: 1

    .. if it ever figures out how to get a Yelp account.

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  52. But what does it taste like? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But what does it taste like?

  53. Fugu Possum by SpeedyGonz · · Score: 1

    Must leave your tongue numbed when you eat a bit....

  54. IANAE by DaFallus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was trying to figure out why this thing would need to use poison when TFA only mentions a diet of insects. According to Wikipedia the "diet of solenodons consists largely of insects, earthworms, and other invertebrates, but they also eat vertebrate carrion, and perhaps even some living vertebrate prey such as small reptiles or amphibians"

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    1. Re:IANAE by clintp · · Score: 1

      I was trying to figure out why this thing would need to use poison when TFA only mentions a diet of insects

      When dealing with insects, most humans prefer to use chemical warfare as well. (DDT, Diazinon, DEET, etc...) Why not other mammals?

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  55. Re:Only Venom-Injecting Mammal? Mascot? by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    That could be the ms mascot....

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  56. Re: Can it even kill us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    A bite to the hand will hurt and make your arm grow twice its size for a week not much more. The teeth themselves are large enough to inflict serious damage though. The animal was a bit clumsy and quite nice until we started handling it.

  57. For the geographically impaired by DF5JT · · Score: 1

    "The mammal was filmed in the summer of 2008 during a month-long expedition to the Dominican Republic -- one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found (the other is Haiti)."

    Haiti and the Dominican Republic are two states on one island in the Caribbean.

  58. poisonous creature threatened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A poisonous creature that has, until now, been widely unknown? Let us take a lesson from Hollywood. Everytime we venture into the jungle or whatever, and discover a world hidden from time, clone dinosaurs, or befriend giant ape things go wrong. One-of-a-kind evolutionary discovery my butt. So was Godzilla, the Thing, the Blob.
    This critter will soon develop a taste for human flesh, and then the Cuba Shrew Crisis starts all over again.
    I say it's them or us.

  59. More mammalian venom by Lulu+of+the+Lotus-Ea · · Score: 1

    I guess the summary is technically correct, since it mentions "through its teeth". But platypus is notable for also having venomous spurs. Certainly that doesn't change the observation that venomous mammals are rare.

  60. resembles an overgrown grue? by mikedep333 · · Score: 1

    That's what I thought it said at first. Yikes

  61. Venom loaded bite by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    It can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite...

    So can my ex-wife...

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  62. Little children...BEWARE!!! by HikingStick · · Score: 1

    If your folks give you a cute, furry, long-nosed mammal, they may have just taken out a large life insurance policy on you and may have plans to retire in the Caymans.

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  63. BBQ! by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can it even kill us?

    Who cares? I'm pretty sure we can kill it; the only important question here is how do they taste?

    1. Re:BBQ! by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Who cares? I'm pretty sure we can kill it; the only important question here is how do they taste?

      For a minute there I thought that sentence was going to end with does it blend.

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  64. Maybe its by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    El Chupacabras!!!

  65. TV special by earlymon · · Score: 1

    I'm imagining that I'm in for an endless round of History/Science/Discovery/Animal Planet/BBC channel reruns on this.

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  66. So that's.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where my mom went.

  67. Re: Can it even kill us? by dotancohen · · Score: 1

    The animal was a bit clumsy and quite nice until we started handling it.

    See previous comments about /.ers and girlfriends. But venomous animals?!? sicko

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  68. Re:Hispaniola by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Despite sharing the same island, Haiti and The DR are completely different. Haiti looks a bit like the moon with Tomato plantations (where all your ketchup comes from). The Dominican Republic still has the most untouched forests of the Caribbean with Cuba. It is actually surprising that the ZSL team found any traces of the Solenodon in Haiti as even on the other side of the border, the animal only lives in a few limited locations. Several expeditions looked for the animals without success so we were quite lucky to find one. We know of one other animal caught in the wild, photographed and released, and of several that were brought to the Santo Domingo zoo only to die soon afterwards. To answer another question, they are indeed eaten but not favoured. The real ROUS, the Hutia, a three pound "vole" is supposed to taste much better and is easier to catch. Not aggressive but bites like crazy when handled. The little Solenodon we caught (790g) was very gentle until we had to forcibly manipulate it to measure its limbs and sex it. Then it screamed like a banshee and seriously tested our kevlar lined gloves. (they work, just!).