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Microsoft To Open Retail Stores

chaz373 writes "CNET reports that Microsoft is going retail. In the 'Beyond Binary' blog Ina Fried reports, 'After years of brushing off the notion, Microsoft said on Thursday that it will open up its own line of retail stores. Without detailing the plans, Microsoft said it has hired David Porter, a 25-year Wal-Mart veteran, to lead the effort. Sources say that Porter's mission will be to develop the company's retail plans and that the effort is likely to start small with just a few locations.'"

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  1. Wow. by imamac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This should be entertaining...

    1. Re:Wow. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please, please, a "Get the Facts" bar.

    2. Re:Wow. by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll take a triple venti FUDaccino with extra FUD please!

    3. Re:Wow. by JamesP · · Score: 5, Funny

      Microsoft: The fail is strong with this one...

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    4. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh come on! I know this is /. and all of you pretend to not have touched Windows for years, but surely it's going to be called "The Task Bar".

    5. Re:Wow. by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will they squirt each other? (not my words, Microsoft's own marketing terms)

    6. Re:Wow. by Saint+Gerbil · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would you like any "Ulltimate Extra's" with that ?

    7. Re:Wow. by WCguru42 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd feel more comfortable with the "Tool" Bar.

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    8. Re:Wow. by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not that hard, really... There are a few things you need to know and unless you really want to go deep down in details the following general rules work:

      • Install the machine, with Administrator install all required applications. Test them, they should work.
      • Now create the Limited User and log in with that user. Run all the applications you have installed and note which fail. That's not that many usually...
      • For those application, locate their installed folder. Add the "Users" group to the ACL and give it "full control". The WTF here is that on Windows Home this is hard and on Windows Pro this is easy. Windows Home lacks the graphical interface to do it. You have to use "cacls.exe", which is a command line tool. That said, I head there is a patch which restores the graphical ACL editor. You evidently need to log in as Admin to make these ACL changes
      • Retest the applications, some will now work.
      • The remaining applications that don't work most likely will try to write to a part of HKLM in the registry. As Administrator, go to the registry key associated with the application (Typicallyy HKLM\Software\Company\Product). Now change the ACL of that "folder" to "Full Control" for the "Users" group.
      • Retest... With that 99% of the applications work, and those that don't really are badly behaved and I'd suggest finding an alternative.

      Now do realise the following: this essentially allows normal users to hose those badly behaved applications, but I suggest that such a thing is acceptable. They will, however, not be able to hose the system itself, which is the goal.

      Up until now, one one application didn't want to work with the above technique. It was -of course- a game and I think it was the copy protection doing some funky stuff.

      Now, I'd still suggest hiding Internet Explorer and provide Firefox instead. I don't know if it's needed, though.

  2. They will be Brown! by drerwk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clippy will man the Super Genius Bar. And they will have Karaoke using that new tech of theirs. Don't forget the $10,000 coffee tables.

  3. Re:Following Apple by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty skeptical myself. Why would anybody want to go into a store like that?

    "Hey guys, want to head over to the mall and check out the new version of Office?"
    "Awesome! Let's go!"


    No. The above conversation will not happen with any great frequency because Microsoft is just not sexy, they are utilitarian and mundane.

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  4. Re:Following Apple by TejWC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Half the reason why Apple made their stores was to encourage people to test drive a Mac right there. They placed most of the stores in malls so people who had other shopping to do can just hop in and try this "Mac" thing out. On top of that, they are able to repair your computer (or at least send it out for repair) right there without giving you the trouble of shipping it yourself. The apple store is half the reason why I ended up with a Mac.

    Most people are familiar with Windows so a "test drive" will not do much good. And the people who use Windows tend to be the people that end up using whatever OS is installed in their computer anyway. Microsoft is not really in the PC selling business so they can't help you with your laptop when there is a hardware problem. The only product I think the store will really push is mobile devices since they seem to think thats where a lot of money is (or at least they are scared that Linux or iPhone will grab too much of the market). They can be a "Windows Mobile Phone" store that sells phones that use WindowsCE. I can't think of anything else that would differentiate them from a "Best Buy" or "Frys".

  5. Re:Following Apple by Yvanhoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Hey guys, let's do an OSS protest !"
    "Yeah, but where ?"
    "I have an idea about it..."

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  6. Microsoft has opened retail stores before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Summary is misleading. Microsoft has tried retail before. (before apple and dell, even.)

    1. Re:Microsoft has opened retail stores before by PeanutButterBreath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That wasn't really a store. It was more of a really one demonstration showroom and it has been closed.

      Huh? There were shrink-wrapped products and cash registers, IIRC. That is a store.

  7. Re:Following Apple by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft and Apple have different problems.

    Apple had a case that their products were not shown in stores.
    The Apple Ghetto Section in COMPUSA comes to mind, In the far right corner of the store with shelving arranged differently to prevent people from wondering into the area by mistake (you wanted to go to the Apple section to get there). When talking to the sales rep they will stray you away from the Apple Product and point to you a nice shiny new Compaq with Windows and say how much better that is, and give every false rumor and misconception about the apple product as possible.

    So that is the key reason for the Apple store to actually show off and highlight their product in their own store. They made an inviting environment that makes all their products look really nice, and the sales rep will talk about its strengths. (granted they will not go too far to point out any weaknesses) As well offer basic training to the people looking at the product to ease the switching anxieties.

    Microsoft has a different PR problem. Their success has trivialized their products. Even their high end software which is rather nice (if you are able to look at them threw un Fanboy/Zealot eyes) has the stigma of being sub-par home software. As well associating any and all PC problems that one has with Microsoft even if it isn't their fault. Really gives them a PR problem. Now I am not sure a retail store will fix it. Showing off the software is a much more difficult problem. It takes time to determine if you want or like the software. Vs. say a Mac which just looks cool and you feel that it can do what you want it to do. Most people felt they have been burned by Microsoft far more then people who felt burned by Apple so standard marketing will make them suspicious.

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  8. surprised nobody has mentioned this by crimperman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see it now: you walk into the store (by accident) and an assistant dressed as a paper clip appears beside you saying

    "You look like you're trying to buy a PC. Shall I ..
    * ignore all your needs and suggest one now
    * spew FUD about anything not owned by Microsoft
    * help myself to your wallet now
    * do a weird little spin and bugger off!"

  9. Re:Following Apple by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but do you really want to *talk* to a girl who would judge you based on your computer brand?

    Just curious, why is that worse than a girl talking to you because she thinks you are cute? You can't spot a personality from across a room, so you have to use some other criteria.

    I, personally, appreciate women who have a Dell but then put a little Apple sticker over the Dell sign. Low maintenance. You can keep a woman like that happy with knockoff Coach purses bought in Chinatown and lots of cubic zirconium... :)

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  10. Apple = Gap, Microsoft = WalMart by MikeMo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When Apple went into retail, they got a guy from the nice Gap stores to set it up. When Microsoft does the same thing, they get a guy from WalMart. That pretty much sums up the difference between Apple and Microsoft.

  11. Re:Following Apple by genner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but do you really want to *talk* to a girl who would judge you based on your computer brand?

    Yes!
    A million times yes!