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Chimps Have a Built-In GPS

destinyland writes "European researchers have discovered that chimpanzees have a built-in mental GPS, keeping 'a geometric mental map of their home range, moving from point to point in nearly straight lines.' Using GPS, two primatologists followed 15 chimpanzees for 217 days, and determined that the apes were 'using a mental map built around geometric coordinates.' They're not just identifying landmarks in their surroundings, and in fact, even when swinging through trees, the chimps planned out their route several trees in advance. Here's the paper in the journal Animal Behavior."

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  1. Pay per Paper by spacefight · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the 2nd link: "Price: US $ 31.50". Sounds like another slashvertorial. No thanks, chimps.

    1. Re:Pay per Paper by megamerican · · Score: 3, Insightful

      $31.50 is pretty expensive for a paper which will say that a certain mammal can remember where it has been and can find its way back to that spot, much like most other mammals.

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    2. Re:Pay per Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1. Create pay per paper site
      2. Get shitty story submitted by kdawson
      3. Massive profit

    3. Re:Pay per Paper by smallfries · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sadly most research is behind a paywall. It doesn't make it a slashvertisment though - there was enough detail in the linked article to see that the researchers are talking bollocks, and that the actual paper is unnecessary.

      GPS uses time of flight between known landmarks. The fact that the landmarks are actually moving in orbit is irrelevant. The researchers argue that chimps don't use landmarks as reference points, but instead use a geometric layout of their territory. This is called dead-reckoning.

      Edit: Preview suggests that I may be a little harsh. Their research itself may be valid and worthy. But their attempt to dumb it down for "the kids" without understanding the comparison that they are making is stupid.

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    4. Re:Pay per Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have participated in such an experiment. It's called being in the infantry.

    5. Re:Pay per Paper by fulldecent · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So the real question is... how do I filter kdawson out of my RSS feed?

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  2. Built-In Mental GPS by Herr_Skymarshall · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does it run Linux?

    1. Re:Built-In Mental GPS by CaptainPatent · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does it run Linux?

      I hear it's Gutsy Gibbon.

      buh-duh... ching

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    2. Re:Built-In Mental GPS by flu1d · · Score: 5, Funny

      Microsoft Sues Chimps.

      You really think they'll sue themselves?

    3. Re:Built-In Mental GPS by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Imagine a bonobo cluster of those!

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  3. But... by ATOMISCHE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Calling it GPS implies they are using external signals to locate. The article says the chimps are creating and using internal distance transform maps.

    1. Re:But... by GooberToo · · Score: 4, Funny

      The last time the chimp community lost GPS signals they all started crashing into each other and exploding. It was a real tragedy.

      Rumour has it Microsoft's Ballmer was repeatedly spotted running into walls and throwing chairs.

  4. THere's no way i'm having a chimp on my dashboard by Barsteward · · Score: 5, Funny

    they sh*t everywhere and you'd have to feed it bananas for directions.

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  5. What does the G in GPS stand for by edittard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No they don't. Drop them somewhere they've never been before and ask them to go somewhere else they've never been before and they'll either pull funny faces at you or initiate a poo barrage.

    Tell me again, what does the G in GPS stand for? It sure doesn't stand for "having a reasonable memory of your surroundings and a rough sense of direction". And neither do the P or the S.

    Bullshit summary again. Or maybe bullshit article. Who cares? After a while, you don't bother.

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    1. Re:What does the G in GPS stand for by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe it's just that people writing these summaries and/or articles haven't the faintest clue how GPS operates. It's just a magical box on their dashboard that can figure out a route from A to B, so when <other creature/object X> can plan a route from one point to another, it must be similar, right?

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    2. Re:What does the G in GPS stand for by nine-times · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not just what GPS stands for, either. Not every positioning system that works globally is GPS. Yeah, I'm being pedantic, but "GPS" really is supposed to indicate the particular system, not just any system.

      So saying chimps have built-in GPS because they can navigate is a little like saying they have built-in Canon Powershot cameras because they can see.

  6. Isn't that just... by caitsith01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...a fancy way of saying "remembering where stuff is relative to other stuff"?

    My cat can do that. If she wants to come upstairs in my house, she'll walk in a straight line to the bottom of the staircase from wherever she is, up the stairs, and in a straight line from there to wherever she wants to be.

    I guess she's got "cat GPS" and/or is "using internal distance transform maps"... I never knew she was so talented.

    I would think most semi-complex animals have this ability.

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    1. Re:Isn't that just... by NineNine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. I have a completely blind cat, and she gets around the house just fine, only running into stuff if I move furniture. It's really impressive to see, as she learns her environment the first time around. This article wasn't news to me.

    2. Re:Isn't that just... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Funny
      • Wakes up in middle of night. Bloody cats on the bed again
      • Puts cat out through front door
      • One minute passes
      • Cat comes back

      The animal had gone to the back of the house, climbed to the upper story and come into the house through a little window high in the shower cubicle of the upstairs bathroom. Then it walked back down the stairs and into our room.

      Of course it has a map. What it doesn't know is that I am going to strangle it if it keeps pulling tricks like that.

    3. Re:Isn't that just... by david.given · · Score: 4, Funny

      The animal had gone to the back of the house, climbed to the upper story and come into the house through a little window high in the shower cubicle of the upstairs bathroom. Then it walked back down the stairs and into our room.

      No, that's far too much effort. What actually happened was the cat read your mind, realised that you knew a plausible route by which it could get in, and so after being put out it just sat comfortably until you were out of sight and then teleported back onto your bed, knowing that you would never suspect anything.

      Cats put the kind of effort into being lazy that the most hardened work ethic afficionado could only dream of.

  7. Devolution by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 3, Funny

    So can someone please explain to me our cousin species can manage to navigate such dense forest with such high precision while many of my highly-intelligent ex girlfriends managed to get lost so easily on short walks.

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  8. Researchers used GPS; Chimps Mapped by billstewart · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah - TFA says the chimps kept mental maps of their surroundings, and it was the researchers that used GPS because it all looked like jungle to them. That's different from migratory birds or insects which apparently use magnetic fields or sunlight angles for navigation.

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  9. I already knew this by ve3id · · Score: 3, Funny

    I already knew this. Why do we spend such money on research? Think about it, have you ever had a chimp ask you for directions?

  10. JPS by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    They have JPS: Jungle Positioning System

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  11. It's dead reckoning . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...a fancy way of saying "remembering where stuff is relative to other stuff"?

    Yeah, I was thinking that this is just a bit of "dead reckoning," combined with old salty pirate skills:

    "Arrrgh, when yee see the rock, that looks like the skull of a monkey, turn left, take twenty paces, and the treasure is buried below. But beware the curse . . ."

    I guess she's got "cat GPS" and/or is "using internal distance transform maps"...

    Just to be on the safe side, see if your cat can perform the same trick, while wearing a tinfoil hat. And please get back to us if she can. Maybe those felines are up to something behind our backs.

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