Elderly To Get Satellite Navigation To Find Their Way Around Supermarkets
Three government centers in the UK have been working on a way to use digital technology to help the elderly and the disabled. One of their ideas is a supermarket satellite navigation system to help elderly people who get confused by changing layouts in the aisles. Professor Paul Watson, of Newcastle University, said: "Many older people lack the confidence to maintain 'normal' walking habits. This is often due to worries about getting lost in unfamiliar, new or changing environments." A kitchen for Alzheimer's patients packed with hidden sensors and projectors is also in the works.
Now they can find all the dog food and hair nets...
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Wouldn't it be better for the supermarket to simply not rearrange their store all the damn time? Or alternatively, provide decent customer service by having employees give the elderly people directions?
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
That is absoloutely brilliant and hilarious all at once.
The local grocery store haven't changed their floor layout in 20 years. The only thing that changes is the price of food: up, up, and up.
Hopefully those people who have difficulty figuring out a new layout in a store will be able to figure out this new software tool. Knowing my grandma, I doubt it.
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Teaching the elderly with Alzheimers how to use their new hand held satellite/rfid/wifi mapping device will be a SNAP!
From the country that created the ministry of silly walks? Really?
Wouldn't it be better for the supermarket to simply not rearrange their store all the damn time?
My grocery store changes layout significantly perhaps every year or two. That's not exactly "all the damn time"...
Or alternatively, provide decent customer service by having employees give the elderly people directions?
Decent customer service costs money. Given the choice, people generally vote (with their money) for cheaper food over better serviced food. Put another way: Would you rather pay $9 for a bottle of wine in the bag you carry to your car, or $13 for the same bottle of wine carried to your car by a checker?
Me? I'll pocket the $4 since I'm walking thataway anyhow, and so will enough other people that mega-marts (like WinCo or Wal-Mart) are the order of the day, now. Your (expensive!) friendly local grocery store is a relic of ancient memory.
But not *everybody* can carry their $9 bottle of wine to the car, and that's where ever-cheaper technology comes into play. It's just part of the gradual move society and technology are making towards The technology singularity that you'll see mentioned around these parts. One more case of human intelligence being off-loaded to a machine because it can do the same job faster/better/cheaper.
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Every time, when I hear about these in-door satellite navigation systems, I can't help but wonder, how these even could work. First of all, AFAIK, the GPS signal is so faint that it will not work inside the buildings. Also, the accuracy of the mobile tower / GPS systems might not be enough for this kind of applications.
For old people with memory loss, it is.
I find it implausible that having a few people around to give directions would be as expensive as having baggers haul everybody's food to their car for them (which, by the way, Publix manages to do without being all that much more expensive anyway), especially if they had other tasks to perform at the same time (such as stocking shelves or sweeping the floor). Home Depot can do it (sort of); why not grocery stores?
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Hang on a minute, you're saying constantly changing layout confuses people and drive people away??
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Well my solution to that is simple. I don't even make a list.
I walk up and down every single aisle every time. Look side to side and if there is something that I want or need.. into the cart. It's fast too. I hit every part of the store only one time. Usually in and out in 15 minutes or less especially since most aisles don't have anything and I just walk right through it.
Heck, I even comparison shop and check for shit chemical ingredients and I am still out faster than most other people.
Sweet idea, not just for elderley, but for anyone visiting a new supermarket?
the only problem is you'd have to make sure the "markers" get moved around properly - wouldnt leave it up to the 16 year olds who are mostly responsible for packing shelves...
Wouldn't it be better for the supermarket to simply not rearrange their store all the damn time? Or alternatively, provide decent customer service by having employees give the elderly people directions?
... and stay off my lawn! spoken like a true geriatric.
i wage a holy war against the apostrophe.
For old people with memory loss, it is.
why are old people with memory loss leaving their homes to go grocery shopping alone? that seems pretty stupid/dangerous.
We know you're having trouble figuring out the whole "grocery store layout" concept and are trying to figure out an effective means to not shit yourself, but here's the newest 10 giga T5635 Garmin electro deluxe (now with 20% more marketing!!) to help you figure out the supermarket layout. Don't forget to check and make sure it's charged, updated with the new layouts, and make sure you angle it right so you can see it.
Aren't we helpful???
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ok we have elderly, who do not like all these new gadgets, who have bad eye-sight and memory are going to use a small device with complicated settings and a small screen. what happened to those trusty signs they used to hang from the roof saying whats in the aisle. talk about over complicating such a simple problem.
It's not a typo if you understood the meaning!
Try that when your post 65 years old and starting to have memory problems. You will have a great time trying to remember what you need.
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Having worked in a large grocery store previously, I can tell you that a key reason for periodic rearrangement of items is specifically for the purpose of getting people to wander in the store longer, because the longer they are spending looking for something they want, the greater the chance that they will see something else they might like and pick that up too. Sure, there are also people who will get frustrated and leave without buying anything, but statistically speaking, the increased sales as a result of more impulse buying more than makes up for those lost sales. I once asked about this while I was there, and this is how it was explained to me. I was quick to point out the fact that customers don't leave as quickly would certainly carry an expense in the form of increased security requirements to keep shoplifting down, but apparently the increase in sales outweigh even that additional cost too.
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As someone that works at a grocery store, you are entirely correct. The employees should be helping the customers find the items they need, and at least be polite, if not cheerful about it. If there aren't enough employees to do that, or they don't know the layout of the store well enough...there's your problem right there.
Yes, the annoying customer is asking me where the damned bread is for the fifth time this month and interrupting the job I was assigned to do. That's ok, 'cuz his dollars are helping pay my paycheck.
The employees that don't understand that need a good smack upside the noggin.
The first challenge for the elderly shopper is getting to the store.
Then there is the problem is reading labels and prices.
Getting the attention of the butcher.
Managing bulky and heavy packages. Navigating the check out line with your pride and wallet intact. Making it home safely..,and packing everything away.
Product placement is in three dimesions.
Top shelf. Middle shelf, Bottom shelf. Traffic flow and product placement within the store are designed to maximize profits - not convenience.
Management can be prickly about revealing schemes that work.
What the elderly shopper needs isn't a high tech gadget. It's the box boy in the aisles. The kid willing to help out.
I may have Alzheimer's, but at least I don't have Alzheimer's.
Ever since I got my iphone (last August), I have been relying heavily on it to map out efficient routes, and figure out where new places are.
Now, every time I am in a new supermarket, and looking for bread or something, I immediately pull out my iphone, only to sadly realize that the bread isle at safeway isn't on google maps yet :-(
I have seriously do this about twice a month.
There must be some new technology I've missed!
Maybe Computers will never be as intelligent as Humans.
For sure they won't ever become so stupid. [VR-1988]
For old people with memory loss, it is.
why are old people with memory loss leaving their homes to go grocery shopping alone? that seems pretty stupid/dangerous.
They keep forgetting to stay at home ;)
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Nevermind rearrange their store, they keep changing their mind as to what products you are allowed to buy (i.e. which ones are even available in their stores), based on what makes them more money or which suppliers have been good boys this week. Tesco I'm looking at you.
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For old people with memory loss, it is.
I find it implausible that having a few people around to give directions would be as expensive as having baggers haul everybody's food to their car for them (which, by the way, Publix manages to do without being all that much more expensive anyway), especially if they had other tasks to perform at the same time (such as stocking shelves or sweeping the floor). Home Depot can do it (sort of); why not grocery stores?
I thought you said badgers - now that would be interesting.
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Well thats twice a year too often. My local supermarket has had its first major reshuffle in 4 years, all very logical but very annoying as there were entire aisles i generally never had to walk down regularly. The usual excuse for a reshuffle is to make me buy stuff I'd not noticed before or more impulse & related purchases. Did it work - No! Lots of grumpy customers though...
Monotony, like monogamy is not in nature's interest.
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Or alternatively, provide decent customer service by having employees give the elderly people directions?
There are shops that provide service like this, some of them are supermarkets. They're more expensive though.
It would probably be easier to teach the elderly how to order their groceries online. Since they're being delivered "off-peak" the charge could be less, too.
Badgers??? Badgers??? WE don't need no STINKING BADGERS!!!
I wasn't born so much as I fell out
Nobody seemed to notice me
We had a hedge back home in the suburbs
Over which I never could see
I heard the people who lived on the ceiling
Scream and fight most scarily
Hearing that noise was my first ever feeling
Thats how its been all around me
I'm all lost in the supermarket
I can no longer shop happily
I came in here for that special offer
A guaranteed personality
Im all tuned in, I see all the programmes
I save coupons from packets of tea
Ive got my giant hit discoteque album
I empty a bottle and I feel a bit free
The kids in the halls and the pipes in the walls
Make me noises for company
Long distance callers make long distance calls
And the silence makes me lonely
I'm all lost in the supermarket
I can no longer shop happily
I came in here for that special offer
A guaranteed personality
And its not hear
It disappear
Im all lost
All I know is that I'm hearing a Clash song and picturing a music video with confused octogenarians in an Aisle 6 pile up.
Given that I'm actually 24 years old, I'm not sure whether that's a complement or an insult!
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
...and rob us of staying in touch with our hunter/gatherer vestiges? no way. besides--old people like to wander; they do it all the time.
Wouldn't it be better for the supermarket to simply not rearrange their store all the damn time?
Amen. There is nothing worse than getting every item on your list except one, going to the far end of the hypermarket/supermarket (20+ aisles) and finding out - yes, they have rearranged the layout - what you thought was "packet/instant meals" has now been categorized as "international foods" and is now on a top/bottom shelf somewhere in the middle of the store. But not to worry, the store have placed guides with maps at the corner of every 5th aisle to help people find their way around.
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My siblings buy my parents high tech gifts thinking its trendy or will make life easier. But just about all of the gifts go right into the closet and collect dust. Most of the stuff is not easy to use and complicates life.
I had this same idea a while back, but my idea was for everyone. The carts would have a device on them. You could put in what you're looking for and it would direct you there. It could even be aware of the locations of other carts and try to plot the quickest path.
Of course, stores would never go for it because it would get you in & out with less impulse buys.
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I remember 10 years ago, that the local grocery store had electronic lists on their carts. The unit would indicate where everything was. It was pretty basic. It had a monochrome screen with discrete push buttons.
I'd imagine that these days a touchscreen with images would make it really easy for even my grandmother to find things in the store. Just push the button for noodles then the button for spaghetti and its location appears on a map of the store.
The store could even advertise weekly specials or sell ad space to offset the cost of the units.
Besides, why would GPS be more useful than the Aisle indicators?
(/sarcasm)
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I concur. The number of times my local Tesco doesn't have bottles of Pepsi but have almost an entire aisle of Coke is astounding. I can only assume Coke are paying them not to order Pepsi that week.
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Heck, I'm not quite 50, and my memory's as good as it ever was (IIRC), and I STILL forget something half the time.
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otony may be why SatNav systems guide or confuse the elderly over or onto piers, cliffs, rail tracks....
Diabolical SatNav: Turn right and head into Aisl 5. Increase speed. Aim directly for open electrical box behind flapping chill curtain. Worried? Don't worry. Continue pushing cart into open, live panel...
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Ku-thunk...
Diabolical SatNav: Non-perishable non-go-back flapping in Aisle 5. Bring air evacuator! Reason: Boiling/evaporating Ensure and Depends in high concentration.
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I've built a spreadsheet that I type my shopping list into. It looks up the aisle number, and then the aisle order based on the route I take around my local tesco and then sorts. As an added bonus my popular recipes are entered as well so I can choose a recipe, type in the number of people to make it for and the items get added to the list automatically. Means I can take a print round the shop and get out fast.
Now if I had a GPS locator as well, I could try loading it all onto a roomba or something so I can stay at home with a beer!
"Sensors hidden in every cupboard door, appliance and utensil tell a central computer exactly what a dementia patient is doing at any time.
If the kitchen thinks the individual has become confused, it projects written reminders of what to do next on to the closest wall."
I sense a Diabolical Dance Dance Revolution coming along.... Could be a virtual Soylent Green of sorts... for those at their wits end..
But, this sort of technology could be useful for tracking and directing house-arrest subjects; prisoners; uncontrollable police; mayors visiting brothels; students; pets; and those who design such systems....
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It's okay for Slashdot to do it, because I'm not elderly and easily confused.
I am. Could you tell me where the Baked Beans are?
Are they made by POST? Perhaps they're next to the WINE. Want me to GET that for you?
Ha! I kill me sometimes...
When I was much younger, my mother could sit down and write up a grocery list to feed a family of 9 for a week- and do it in the order she would be going thru the store aisles- by memory alone! Now she gets frustrated because things get moved around, or aren't carried anymore- and she's only buying for 2.
More like another way to mess with old people! Rearranging the aisles is fun by itself, but then when we give them the satnav system programmed with the wrong information, then, my friend, hilarity will truly ensue.
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Inability to receive satellite transmissions through the metal roof of a typical supermarket will be a minor problem to be worked out in beta testing.
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