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Windows 7 Will Be Free For a Year

Barence writes "Microsoft is effectively giving away Windows 7 free for a year with the launch of the Release Candidate. The Release Candidate is now available to MSDN and TechNet subscribers, and will go on unlimited, general release on 5 May. The software will not expire until 1 June 2010, giving testers more than a year's free access to Windows 7. 'It's available to as many people who see fit to use it, although we wouldn't recommend it to just your average user,' John Curran, director of the Windows Client Group told PC Pro. 'We'd very strongly encourage anyone on the beta to move to the Release Candidate.'"

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  1. Good idea by 4D6963 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like a good idea to me! Can't think of anything wrong with it, but I trust someone will come up with something.

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    1. Re:Good idea by platypussrex · · Score: 5, Funny

      Didn't your mom warn you about that? "They give you one for free, and then when they have you hooked....wham!"

    2. Re:Good idea by just_another_sean · · Score: 5, Insightful

      OK, I'll bite.

      This reminds of what Bill G. said about people illegally using Windows in China. MS would rather give you the first hit free
      so you get hooked. When you come crawling back for more to feed your habit then they'll charge you for it.

      Sorry but MS has violated the publics trust so many times I just can't ever see anything good in their marketing attempts.

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    3. Re:Good idea by passionplay · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you miss the boat? This is called a loss-leader. It's designed to combat Linux by saturating the market with a "cost-free" variant of Windows, which makes the average user go get it. "It's Windows - it must be good. It's been around for years." Then once they have you hooked, they charge you for the rest because it costs you too much intellectually to use something else. The built-in expiry means that as of 2010, you have a few million guaranteed sales of people that have gotten addicted to their Windows 7 environment. This is how Dealers keep their Junkies at their mercy. See post #2. The first one is free. So that you come back and pay for more.

    4. Re:Good idea by frozentier · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, to me it sounds more like confidence than desperation. They are expecting people to go out and pay for it AFTER using it for a year and deciding if they like it or not. Quite the opposite of going out and buying a new OS, then you're S.O.L. if you don't like it, and you've wasted $100+.

    5. Re:Good idea by ionix5891 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Windows a gateway drug?

    6. Re:Good idea by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 5, Funny

      First they start you on 7, then Windows Server and Vista, and before you know it you have a full install of Windows ME.

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    7. Re:Good idea by marcello_dl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bad idea? It implies:
        - blogosphere ablaze with reviews. Just add a pinch of astroturfing.
        - free beta testing.
        - new users get familiar with the interface, it's time to move off xp.

      I say this is a good move. Of course it would never have happened if linux weren't good on the desktop. Their management probably panicked seeing a flawless sidux install on hd in under 3 minutes or something like that.

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    8. Re:Good idea by frozentier · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think so (personal opinion here). I bought a new computer 2 months ago that had Vista preinstalled after using XP since it came out. So far for me Vista is every bit as stable as XP. People will download Windows 7 and they will either like it or they won't. If it sucks, it doesn't matter what people are using at the time, they won't switch. And if people are THAT desperate to get away from Vista, they can just go back to XP (something that I thought I would want to do when faced with buying a machine with Vista preinstalled).

    9. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think it's a good thing. Consider:

      1/ User buys PC with Vista. Thinks Windows is free ('came with my PC')
      2/ User not entirely happy with Vista for whatever reason or wants shiny new release.
      3/ User upgrades to Win7
      4/ User happy for 1 year.
      5/ User has to pay $$$ to continue using Win7
      6/ User now understands that Windows is *not* free.

      Very educational.

    10. Re:Good idea by Gerzel · · Score: 4, Funny

      ME if you're lucky. MS Bob if you're not.

    11. Re:Good idea by DaleGlass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Microsoft doesn't need people to buy their OS. It's not like they have much of a choice anyway.

      What they really need is to get people to stop replacing it with an older version, and to stop trying to get the older one on their new hardware.

    12. Re:Good idea by Gerzel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except it is not free. It is no-charge for one year.

      This is trial-ware. It isn't a free version of Windows.

      As soon as that trial is up they will charge the users for the same amount and because very few people use a computer for just a single year the cost is the same over-all.

      The word "Free" is just add jingle nothing more. Unlike FOSS where "Free" actually has a definition as in "You do not have to pay to use this software." Yes you may have to pay for training and help using the software but many people have to pay for that with Windows as well.

    13. Re:Good idea by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, to me it sounds more like confidence than desperation. They are expecting people to go out and pay for it AFTER using it for a year and deciding if they like it or not. Quite the opposite of going out and buying a new OS, then you're S.O.L. if you don't like it, and you've wasted $100+.

      Its about getting developers to decide that the platform is worth developing software for. If developers decide due to low market penetration that Windows 7 is as appealing to write for as Mac OS9, the money train will end and Microsoft will most likely fail as a company.

      Personally, I don't consider them to be particularly relevant anymore. The exciting new technology doesn't come from Microsoft anymore, and hasn't in years...

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    14. Re:Good idea by Nick+Fel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think they're going to win any extra sales directly. The type of people who install Release Candidates are the type of people who will always have the latest operating system anyway. More likely they're just sweetening the deal to increase the number of bloggers out there building up hype.

    15. Re:Good idea by Danse · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Personally, I don't consider them to be particularly relevant anymore. The exciting new technology doesn't come from Microsoft anymore, and hasn't in years...

      Yeah, but it's kind of hard to consider having ~90% of the market to be irrelevant. They may not be the hip new thing, but they're definitely relevant to most people.

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    16. Re:Good idea by amoeba1911 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I heard MS Bob makes your teeth rot fall out, and makes disfiguring lesions on your face.

    17. Re:Good idea by Amouth · · Score: 2, Funny

      lagging is in the sence of

      click and wait oh shit there it is..

      click desktop..

      click and wait oh shit there it is..

      it has nothing to do with the hdd as everything it needs is cached in memory.

      it has everything to do with the shiny interface being poorly written.

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    18. Re:Good idea by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Of course it would never have happened if linux weren't good on the desktop.

      Yes, it's "good on the desktop" but there are still quite a few important applications for which there is no Linux app that can do the job. This is especially true in the area of media production.

      I would have switched to Linux long ago if there was any possible way I could get my work done on it. In fact, every time there's a new version of Ubuntu Studio, I try it out on a machine in my studio that's just for that purpose. And every time, I realize that there is simply no Linux substitute for the most critical apps I use. And I'm not talking about something that's so esoteric for there not to be a market. There are more than a dozen companies that produce DAW applications for Mac and/or Windows, for example: Steinberg, Cakewalk, Propellerheads, MOTU, bias, Cockos, Avid, Sony, Native Instruments, MAGIX, Ableton, and hundreds of companies who create virtual instruments to use in these DAWs.

      How many of them have apps for Linux? Maybe one. How many of those apps for Linux actually work? Maybe none. Cockos' Reaper makes interesting use of Linux machines for offloading resource-hungry processes like rendering, so I can make use that Linux machine, but it is impossible for a professional media producer to use Linux exclusively. And if you're one of the hundreds of thousands of "amateur" or hobbyist media producers, which platform are you going to choose? One on which you can produce something or one on which you cannot.

      A similar accounting can be had for video production. So, if Linux is going to make any inroads into this small but important market, professional developers are going to have to be persuaded to develop for Linux.

      I'm a broken record about this, but there is a significant need for another professional, well-funded OS in the personal computing market. The need might not be so great if Apple were to produce an OS that was not proprietary to their own hardware. If they can make a "non-iPhone" iPhone for Verizon to sell, then they can produce a "non-Macintosh" OSX. As well capitalized and run as Apple is, they'd clobber Windows. If Apple had such an OS on the shelves last year when Vista was tanking, they would own the PC OS market today. Instead they continue to target elitists and fashionistas. They'll stay rich, god bless them, but as consumers we have to think about what we need, not just brand loyalty.

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    19. Re:Good idea by Anpheus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Summary:

      Whine, whine, whine, I want free stuff, gimme free stuff, I guess guys like me don't deserve free stuff, so because I'm not getting anything for free I'm not gonna spend anything. TAKE THAT M$FT. It's total bullshit that you won't support a nine year old product and continue to sell it INDEFINITELY! TOTAL BULL MAN.

      My 02c, YMMV.

    20. Re:Good idea by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While the "gateway drug" thing is being joked about, it isn't very far off target. The first exclusivity contract was signed with manufacturers, because MS understood that once the relatively low "learning curve" was behind a user, that user is unlikely to look at the higher learning curve necessary to learn *nix.

      Let us remember that MS is a "for profit" corporation. Every decision is calculated to make money in the long run. Sometimes the decision is right, sometimes it is wrong, but it is always calculated to seperate you from your money.

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    21. Re:Good idea by TheDauthi · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was thinking it was a gateway bug

    22. Re:Good idea by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only thing is, I've had Vista on a testing machine since its first public beta, just so I can track the progress they're making with it. I put the first public beta of Windows 7 on my laptop and used it for a while. Both are... fine.

      But then I had a problem with my laptop and so I wiped it out and reinstalled Windows XP. You know what? I didn't have any problems in downgrading. What I mean is, there wasn't anything after downgrading where I said, "Shoot, I wish I could do this, but XP doesn't have that functionality, so I need to upgrade again." At least not so far.

      If Microsoft wants me to pay for an upgrade, they're going to have to show me something more than what I've seen so far.

    23. Re:Good idea by DaleGlass · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, I didn't. Microsoft doesn't need to get people to buy their OS. But they need them to run it.

      Most people don't go into a shop and buy Windows. The vast majority of OS sales are going to be from OEMs. So Microsoft loses very little by letting everybody have it for free. I'm pretty sure there will be something that will stop OEMs from taking advantage of that, so they will still pay.

      What MS does desperately need is for people to want to use it. Because if people keep resisting and asking for XP, then OEMs will keep demanding XP, and enough of them will be powerful enough to force MS to keep providing it. If that happens, then Win7 really isn't going to sell, and that's going to look very bad on the financial reports.

      So it's very much in MS's interest to convince people that Win7 is going to be great, by giving it away for free even, if that prevents people from demanding XP with their new computers.

    24. Re:Good idea by geekboy642 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Again, ~90% of the market.
      If I could put that in bold 72pt flashing courier, I would. You cannot not develop for 90% of the market because you don't like their OS. This (the unwarranted elitism) is a sickness, and it's endemic to the free software community. Whether or not you like Windows/Microsoft makes precisely zero difference. If you want to be mainstream, you cater to those in the mainstream. If you want to be a pathetic niche, that's fine, nobody will stop you. But when your tunnel vision gets so strong that you equate people using the dominant PC/OS setup as "not really that relevant", you harm yourself, and you harm everyone that tries to rely on the work you do.

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    25. Re:Good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once you have the knowledge, running Linux on servers is really no different than anything else.

      I also tend to think overall it is less work.

      But like anything different, you just have to take the time to learn it. And when you do, it's really easy to configure and maintain.

      I would bet that you started with Windows and so did all your incremental learning on Windows. Then, in switching to Linux, or taking on Linux boxes, you had a lot to learn.

      I would argue that if you started with Linux and did all of your incremental learning on Linux, then taking on running a Windows server would seem just as much work to come up to speed.

    26. Re:Good idea by aardwolf64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ok... Here it goes:

      1. They offer you Windows 7 RC free for a year
      2. You download and upgrade your machine
      3. 1 year later, the install expires and you have to purchase Windows 7
      4. Microsoft sells you Windows 7 Basic for $999
      5. Profit!!!

    27. Re:Good idea by arcsine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh Ram. At least this will always be an issue with me. The ~3.5 limit is rather constricting and will be even more so in another year. Yes there is xp 64, but it lacks support in drivers.

    28. Re:Good idea by lilo_booter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would argue that in today's economic climate, they really do want people to buy the OS - people are less inclined to buy new hardware at the moment and as a result, their normal market has shrunk.

      Back with windows 95 and 98, they did pretty well shifting shrink wrap boxes, and I would imagine they'd like to recreate that if they can... giving a year's 'free use' seems like a fairly sane attempt to do that, especially in light of the kick back against vista.

    29. Re:Good idea by PhxBlue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Microsoft doesn't need people to buy their OS. It's not like they have much of a choice anyway.

      Actually, they do: they can stick with the Windows OS they're using now -- they don't have to upgrade. Vista's failure to penetrate the market illustrates that point. Windows' primary competition these days is itself.

      What they really need is to get people to stop replacing it with an older version, and to stop trying to get the older one on their new hardware.

      In other words, Microsoft does need people to buy their OS.

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    30. Re:Good idea by Kbac · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hi, My name is Kbac and... I have been... MS Bob free for... three weeks now.

  2. So close... by cnvandev · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's just one more step to open source! I'll start holding my breath now!

    1. Re:So close... by ionix5891 · · Score: 2, Funny

      i can only imagine what the inside of windows looks like

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      if( ::isBalmers() == true ){

        throw ChairException();
      }
      else{

          System.Win32.bsod();
      }

    2. Re:So close... by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...waiting for blue face of death...

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    3. Re:So close... by not+already+in+use · · Score: 4, Funny

      It amazes me what passes for funny around here.

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  3. At least a year by sskagent · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well it will take me at least a year to get all my drivers updated and installed, so this really doesn't help me.

  4. XP Free for a year? by mc1138 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will this include XP as a VM for a year as well?

    1. Re:XP Free for a year? by weszz · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you do the ultimate, you should be able to download it.

      It's for business and ultimate only, plus you need to be able to do hardware virtualization as well, so my work PC isn't able to, my boss picked the wrong processor to buy us... only one in the line that doesn't do it.

    2. Re:XP Free for a year? by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "It's available to as many people who see fit to use it, although we wouldn't recommend it to just your average user,"

      Oh, I see what you did there. By implying it's not for everyone, you're hoping to get everyone to try it so that they feel a cut above the average user. It's a far slicker move than most of Microsoft's last decade of marketing who carpet bombed the PC market to get every single person alive on windows.

    3. Re:XP Free for a year? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, I see what you did there. By implying it's not for everyone, you're hoping to get everyone to try it so that they feel a cut above the average user.

      Well it works for Linux. Oh no, wait...

    4. Re:XP Free for a year? by Ritorix · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes.

      "We will be soon releasing the beta of Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC for Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Ultimate."
      http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/business/archive/2009/04/24/coming-soon-windows-xp-mode-and-windows-virtual-pc.aspx

      "As part of the upcoming Windows 7 Release Candidate milestone, Microsoft will release a beta version of Windows XP Mode"
      http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2009/Apr09/04-28Win7QA.mspx

  5. its not free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    MSDN and technet require very expensive subscriptions (never mind the absurdity of paying to test another companies apps)

    and does this apply to the public beta testers who dont have the luxury of handing over thousands to test Microsofts apps ?

    1. Re:its not free by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Informative

      Technet is 349.00 for the first year / 249.00 per year after that. That isn't expensive.

    2. Re:its not free by jtdennis · · Score: 4, Informative

      The public beta will be out May 5th. Paying for MSDN or Technet gets you early access. I wouldn't have a Technet account except my work got it as part of their MS license deal.

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  6. Ballmer's strategy by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This could be Ballmer's strategy against Linux as he repeatedly has said that you can't beat Linux' price.

    With this they will surely retain the market share, in a recession, for an otherwise very expensive product; it costs more than one third of a new pc.

    1. Re:Ballmer's strategy by tero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think it's more likely that this is Ballmer's strategy against his own failings with Vista.

      They're in desperate need of getting people off XP - it's starting to show it's age from marketing point of view and I'm sure MS would like to move to a new technological platform as well.

      It's also nice to see they've really looked at things that went wrong with Vista launch - I don't think they really can afford to bomb Windows 7 launch.

    2. Re:Ballmer's strategy by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or Microsoft accurately recognizes that a vast majority of their revenue is from OEM bundles and is willing to take an extremely small hit from a million or so computer geeks who know how to download, burn and install a product they'll have to reinstall in 12 months.

      Either you stop using it and wouldn't have payed them anyway, or you buy it and they get your money eventually anyway. Either way they lose no money.

  7. Re:Offline Gaming machine by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your 4-year-old's account shouldn't have administrator access.

    If you gave his account administrator access, neither should you.

    Funny you should say that. A while ago I took my four year old daughter to a museum, and let her play with a touch-screen information terminal. In a couple of seconds she (somehow) had control panel up! It may take a thousand monkeys a million years to write Shakespeare, but it seems to take ten seconds for a four-year old to find any "backdoor access" or other options that should not be available.

  8. Re:Fascinating by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It sounds like you don't like the idea. It's good that you're not forced to take them up on it.

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  9. Re:Fishing by swordgeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    *sigh*

    At least pick an addictive drug next time.

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  10. Free with "minor" caveats by Ralish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Microsoft is effectively giving away Windows 7 free for a year with the launch of the Release Candidate.

    It's only free if you don't value bug fixes, security updates, product support and potentially all manner of issues installing software that will be released for Windows 7 RTM on a pre-release version no-one will have done significant product testing on and won't care to help you with if you run into problems.

    Keeping all this in mind, and the fact this is pre-release development code, it's not hard to see why this release is free. I do find it odd that it's got such a generous expiration date, but approaching this as a free (time-limited) lunch is probably a fairly bad idea for all the reasons above.

    If you like it, but don't want to pay for it, just pirate it. You'll be better off, and so may many others when they don't have to worry about your compromised box congesting their network, because it was exploited by a flaw MS has no intention of fixing in pre-release code.

    1. Re:Free with "minor" caveats by HerculesMO · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oddly enough, I get updates to my existing Windows 7 Beta, so I don't see why I wouldn't with the RC.

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  11. Re:Fascinating by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually the Win7 RC doesn't have any path to the full, licenced version of Win7 at the end of the testing period, because it's released for testing, not as a freebie.

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  12. You've got to love this by FritzSolms · · Score: 5, Funny

    Absolutely love this on today's BBC article on Windows 7. "We were able to shave 400 milliseconds off the shutdown time by slightly trimming the WAV file shutdown music. "It's indicative of really the level and detail and scrutiny on Windows 7."

    1. Re:You've got to love this by Shrike82 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can mock it all you want. Those 400 milliseconds will add up, and after a few years you'll have saved enough time to make a cup of coffee, or chat to a co-worker about your plans for the weekend.

      Man, that's something to look forward to...

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    2. Re:You've got to love this by FritzSolms · · Score: 3, Funny

      What I love is that this is the main if not only concrete enhancement listed in the BBC article.

    3. Re:You've got to love this by idontgno · · Score: 5, Funny

      "We were able to shave 400 milliseconds off the shutdown time

      BRILLIANT!

      That will easily save me.... let's see... um... (google math)... 7.2 seconds in the coming year! YES! Time enough for sex!

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    4. Re:You've got to love this by kseise · · Score: 2, Funny

      Braggart. We don't like your kind around here. Next thing you will claim is that it is with a woman... some geek you are.

    5. Re:You've got to love this by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      He's probably not counting the time he sits on his hand to make it go numb first, so that he can do "The Stranger".

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  13. Re:Fishing by iamhigh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Weed isn't addicting in the physical sense that you are probably referring to. I have stopped for years when necessary with no trouble. The drug you are looking for is crack/meth/coke.

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  14. Death to Pirates? by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Windows a gateway drug?

    No it's more of a Dell drug.

    This is actually a wonderful idea for them. it lowers the barrier for the transition. Even companies can push their costs forward in time.

    But i'm thinking of all the pirates in asia. The street vendors with virus laden bootlegs will be competing against free. this will hurt their market. Then a year later what will the chinese consumer do? He could go out an buy a bootleg and re-install his system or he could buy a keycode and continue with his current system state. in many cases the idea of re-installing a system would be daunting enough to suddenly make the key code seem cheap.

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    1. Re:Death to Pirates? by dov_0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If my experience with Asians from less wealthy nations (esp. Sth East Asians) is worth anything, the majority of them will still just buy bootleg as that is the only system they really know or its just the way they do things. Unless they actually see a real reason to download 3gig or more, burn it to a DVD etc they'll just go to the market and buy a bootleg for 40 rupees (call it a dollar).

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    2. Re:Death to Pirates? by AnalPerfume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "in many cases the idea of re-installing a system would be daunting enough to suddenly make the key code seem cheap."

      The flaw in your logic is that he would have backed up and installed this version of Windows 7, so having doe it once already I doubt whether having to do it a second time would be anything more than a day's downtime. Besides, why would he go for a lime limited official version when an unlimited cracked version would give more benefits for the same price?

      Unless of course that was a funny post and my brain ain't woken up enough to see it yet, lol.

    3. Re:Death to Pirates? by theillien · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wonder if this is an experiment in the methods that Linux distros use: provide the OS for free and charge for service contracts.

  15. Competing with themselves. by camperdave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft isn't concerned about "hooking" people. They accomplished that decades ago. Microsoft's problem is that people are hooked on XP. They spent a whackload of money on Vista, and nobody went for it. (By nobody, I mean corporations. Everybody who bought a new machine was forced to get it, but even then many switched back to XP.) Now, they've spent another whackload of money on Win7, and they want corporations to buy it. They want people to move off of the XP platform. This free windows is the bait to get them to switch.

    Frankly, I don't know if it'll work. Windows XP works fine. It's an operating system. All it has to do is run applications and manage resources. It does that well enough for most people and corporations, so why switch?

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  16. Re:Fascinating by cabjf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're just scared to death that no one will upgrade, just like with Vista. They probably hope that if enough people are trying for free at home, they'll want it at work and on their next computer. Then they might be able to finally sunset XP.

  17. Re:Fascinating by PhxBlue · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So you get people hooked in with a free release, then hijack them after a year with no good downgrade path and thus no access to their data ...

    One more reason why every family computer geek should stress the importance of regular backups, especially before taking major steps like upgrading one's operating system.

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  18. Dope? by dem0n1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So Microsoft's OS division is now reduced to copying the business plan of heroin dealers?

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  19. Re:Fascinating by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I install Windows 7 RC on anything, it'll be a virtual machine. If I get downgraded, I just kill the VM, and no harm done.

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  20. Re:Fascinating by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who doesn't keep all their data on a seperate drive these days? I mean yeah I download crap to the desktop to filter later, but anything I might keep for more than 60 days is immediately saved to the D: drive. Virus? No problem, just reinstall windows + specific apps. 2 hours down the drain, but you know your virus problem is nixed. Windows 7 RC expired? Just re-install XP.

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  21. Imagine this by Twillerror · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A story about Windows is posted on Slashdot and all the comments are usless dribble about M$ being buggy and instable. I think I see a parrallel between the way the media is covering the Swine Flu and how Linux users cover Windows stories...Can we please stay on topic here...

    What is the (anti)benefit of a company putting out a beta like this for a long period of time?

    I installed Linux and I feel so much better now.
     
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    1. Re:Imagine this by value_added · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think I see a parrallel between the way the media is covering the Swine Flu and how Linux users cover Windows stories

      You may have a point, but using an analogy that involves virus outbreaks while advocating a Gentler and Kinder perspective on Windows stories may not have been the right approach.

    2. Re:Imagine this by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 2, Funny

      3d Exceleration.

      I just died a little inside...

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  22. Why such moronic ititles and summaries? by trifish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They're not giving you Windows 7 for free. They allow anyone to use a beta version of Windows 7 for one year. And, yes, RC is still beta. Microsoft has admitted that they falsely and intentionally label the last few betas as RCs to make hardware vendors to test their hardware and write proper drivers before a RTM build is created.

    The only purpose of this /. submission is to make money on ads or something I suppose (I didn't follow any link, I confess, as I don't follow misleading and moronic articles).

  23. Re:Offline Gaming machine by houghi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please ask her to document it. ;-)

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  24. Re:Fascinating by kokojie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What if the virus killed your files on D drive? You should always keep a copy externally, preferably at a remote location.

  25. Re:no thanks! by recoiledsnake · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That sounds like your own mistake. XP install allows you to format only one partition. You must have messed up by not choosing the proper options during the install.

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  26. Re:Fishing by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Depends how you smoke it. Often people mix cannabis with tobacco and end up addicted to nicotine. They often then believe that the craving is for for a while cannabis, until they discover that a normal cigarette will work just as well. I know a few people who got hooked on smoking like this, which makes one wonder why tobacco is legal and cannabis isn't.

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  27. Re:MSDN Isn't Free by TobiasS · · Score: 2, Informative

    as previously pointed out the public launch is on May 5th, which will not require a MSDN subscription to access the RC.

  28. What makes this new? by hob42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Um, they did the same thing with Vista. The RC was public and came with a year expiration also.

    Not only that, but going to the launch expos they had across the country, they passed out free Vista "RTM" discs (confusing because it was not the actual OEM or retail disc) with another year license (plus a full license to Office 2k7).

  29. Re:Errr.. by AlterRNow · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ah, I see.
    So basically, it isn't a release candidate as there is no chance of it being released 'as is'.
    No wonder people don't trust their programming, they can't even get the terminology right.

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  30. Re:Fascinating by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well then I guess you should have kept all your files secretly backed up on your C, E and F drives along with terrestrial and orbital off site backups. I recommend two satellites orbiting on opposite sides of the earth, that way your data is less likely to be corrupted in the event of solar flares(!).

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  31. You know you failed... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...when you give something away for free, and people don't want it anyway. ^^

    (Ignore their obviously coming "OMFG! It sells like crazy!!1!one(lim x->0 ((sin x)/x))" messages. They did that with Vista too. And look how it turned out.)

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  32. Wake me up when... by jDeepbeep · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...they will pay me to install Windows on my box. I might be interested in that.

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  33. Re:embrace extend by Abreu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Give a regular user a choice between free* Windows and Free* Linux, and they will choose Windows in a heartbeat.

    This is designed to get users to upgrade from WinXP to Win7 and not to Linux

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  34. I installed it a couple of days ago. by DragonTHC · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm quite impressed with it.

    It's a huge step up from vista.

    I particularly like the action center.

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  35. they already had me.. by Destoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Microsoft already had me at "Mark Russinovich is windows 7 principal architect".
    I was given that 'june 1st' date, but it was supposed to be june 1st 2009, not 2010.
    Background goes black on june 1st, and starting july 1st, reboot each two hours. (insert bluescreen joke here)

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  36. Re:Fascinating by marco.antonio.costa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think this not-switching thing won't happen. 7 is worlds better than that steaming pile o'Vista.

    It's actually fast, as crazy as this sounds.

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  37. Re:MSDN Isn't Free by Tauvix · · Score: 2, Informative

    The RC is only available via TechNet/MSDN until Tuesday. After that it's available to the general public.

  38. Re:Fascinating by SuperAndy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Damn straight.

    I have 7 RC installed on a very very very underpowered Lenovo laptop, the kind of thing that ran Ubuntu with a struggle. 7 however, is very fluid, even the fancypants aero effects, with the transparencies work.

    I think Microsoft just may be onto the next XP here.

  39. Re:Offline Gaming machine by adonoman · · Score: 2, Funny

    First you say:

    I see absolutely no problem

    and then you say:

    I ended up an engineer

    Seems like a dire enough consequence to me.

  40. Re:no thanks! by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about instead of saying "Unknown Partition", make a driver that allows read access to the FS drivers in the linux kernel?

    MS: Linux may have been good for you, but we provide you the tools to migrate your data back to a "Complete MS Solution". We support all fileystems that Linux can read and write to, along with BASH scripting and posix programs by default. We also run a Linux compat layer, like BSD, so we can run native ELF executables without changing.

    but no.

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  41. Re:M$ giving windows away?! by gtirloni · · Score: 3, Insightful

    they are not giving Windows 7 for free. /. can't seem to write decent titles.

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  42. Re:Errr.. by Kjella · · Score: 2

    So basically, it isn't a release candidate as there is no chance of it being released 'as is'.

    Dude, as someone that downloaded the Kubuntu 9.04 RC then apt-get'd to the release a week later I can tell you there was a snowflake's chance in hell it'd be released "as-is". While I'm sure most of the changes were minor, there were tons of packages that were updated. After a release you have patching going on and I find it very natural that the same happens between RC and release, even more so to get patches in before the release. Even if a beta release was feature complete something it rarely is, there tends to be huge patches and regressions going in between beta and release. RC is to me the big "fixes only beyond this point", if it works in the RC it shall not break in the release. Tiny fixes still go in but no major new patches, no regressions, no messing with what works. If you need to fix something do it in the most minimal way and leave the "right way" of fixing it for the next release..

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  43. Living outside the Slashdot bubble by westlake · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What they really need is to get people to stop replacing it with an older version, and to stop trying to get the older one on their new hardware.

    Vista is approaching a 25% share of the market.

    Top Operating System Share Trend

    It's easy to imagine a 10% decline in XP's share and a 10% increase in Vista's share May-to-May.

    The geek looks in the mirror and thinks that he is representative of the mass consumer market.

    The HP desktop from WalMart is quad core and ships with 6 GB RAM and 64 Bit Vista. In six months - nine months, whatever - it will be an i7 with 9 GB RAM.

    Serious horsepower at a mass market price. Mature 64 bit drivers. Win 7 just around the corner.

    What's not to love?

    Dual-core is Coming Soon to a netbook near you. It won't be long before XP stops making sense even at entry level.
     

  44. Re:Oooh, NICE counter! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let me just quote the comments from this thread:

    MSDN and technet require very expensive subscriptions

    Technet is 349.00 for the first year / 249.00 per year after that. That isn't expensive.

    You counter his argument that it is not free by pointing out it is MERELY 250 bucks a year...
    Who would have thought FREE would become such a complex concept to some people.

    I don't know where you've seen the word "free" in GGP, because it wasn't there. He said "expensive". $250/year is hardly expensive, but that's beside the point anyway, since it's not what you've taken issue with.

    Please mod parent Offtopic.

  45. The web. Period. by theolein · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know what the relevant stats are to be honest, but I'm pretty sure that some 80% to 90% of software development these days is for web based apps, i.e. backend and browser. People got burnt so often by developing for propietry platforms in the past, and I don't only mean Microsoft by that, that I think that client OS development is truly becoming somewhat irrelevant.

    Microsoft knows this and tried so many times to lock people into its own web platform technologies, be that ActiveX, IE, Silverlight, XAML etc. But it never worked. The web is no longer Microsoft's backyard and people are tired of being forced to either cow to Microsoft, Apple or Adobe.

    Personally, I'm glad and it's abaout time.