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Linux To Be First OS To Support USB 3.0

An anonymous reader writes with an excerpt from Neowin.net "Sarah Sharp, a self-styled 'geekess' and Linux developer at Intel's Open Source Technology Center who has recently been working on the Linux USB subsystem, announced on her blog that support of USB 3.0 will soon be integrated into the Linux kernel. This makes Linux the first operating system to support the standard. If you can't wait and have the expertise necessary, she includes instructions on how to get USB 3.0 support in Linux now." Here's Sharp's post.

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  1. Even better on my Linux box... by thomasdz · · Score: 5, Funny

    My Linux box goes to USB 11

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  2. Another win for OSS community by adosch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Chalk one up for Intel and Linux kernel OSS support! IMHO, a big milestone in the fact that Linux kernel development is always teetering on the bleeding edge. This isn't going to change much for the novice user unless distro's do their part and package in the kernel support for it, but for the more savvy users and testers, it's going to help USB 3.0 mature very quickly and get the bugs worked out faster. I dig it.

    1. Re:Another win for OSS community by Vanders · · Score: 5, Informative

      devices that make use of USB 3.0 will still not have drivers.

      That's simply not true. The USB 3.0 spec. is mostly concerned with the phy. & bus. The xHCI spec covers the HCD. The software-level device interfaces have not changed, or have changed very little.

    2. Re:Another win for OSS community by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm only making an educated guess, but it seems to me that the drivers for the actual device don't change much.

      For example: the same USB HID drivers work on 1 or 2. The very same network driver works on my internal ethernet port and my ExpressCard.

      Kind of like how WoW doesn't care if you're on wired or wireless, any decent driver should be high-level enough not to care if you're on USB 2 or 3.

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    3. Re:Another win for OSS community by Zencyde · · Score: 4, Funny

      Slashdot + talking about menstruation = NO!

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    4. Re:Another win for OSS community by Curtman · · Score: 3, Informative

      The software-level device interfaces have not changed, or have changed very little.

      According to this:

      USB 3.0, which will also be called SuperSpeed USB, will be backward compatible with current USB devices, and will support transfer speeds of up to 4.8Gb/sec (600MB/Sec)--which is ten times faster than Hi-Speed USB (USB 2.0).

      There's some good info in that article.

    5. Re:Another win for OSS community by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I thought the Slashdot community was open for all kinds of fetishes... ;(

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    6. Re:Another win for OSS community by LizardKing · · Score: 5, Informative

      Err, Mrs LizardKing once said that she'd attempted sex when she had the painters in, and that it was uncomfortable because the menstrual blood caused chafing. Apparently a ladies "red wee" is a bit like unstrained orange juice - it's got bits in it.

      And no, I can hardly believe we're discussing menstruation on Slashdot. In response to an article about a serial interface.

    7. Re:Another win for OSS community by PayPaI · · Score: 4, Funny

      decent driver

      You lost me.

    8. Re:Another win for OSS community by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Mrs LizardKing once said that she'd attempted sex when she had the painters in,

      As in, not with you? Try using the personal pronoun "I" before you experiment with sex. Disclaimer: my girlfriends and I were younger than menopause when we experimented with period sex. If you can't properly lubricate then just spit on it.

      As if you were just saying, "Half-digested period blood-chunks are brown". Yes, nerds, they are. If you can't handle it then go to Digg and beat your dicks for eternity while the real men turn their women into jelly using their mud tires.

    9. Re:Another win for OSS community by LizardKing · · Score: 2, Informative

      What was your hand doing with the painters?

      It's a British expression for menstruation. Alternatives include:

      • up on the blocks
      • on the blob
      • rag day
      • Arsenal playing at home
      • having Auntie round for tea

      I suggest you check out The Profanisaurus for the full list

  3. Any USB 3.0 hardware? by moon3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nice to hear that, but are there any USB 3.0 devices to plug ?

    1. Re:Any USB 3.0 hardware? by peragrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Devices, I would be more concerned about finding a hardware adaptor to install into your computer first. The devices come after you have something you can plug them into.

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    2. Re:Any USB 3.0 hardware? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

      Asus and Gigabyte both have USB 3.0 mobos.

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    3. Re:Any USB 3.0 hardware? by sorak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nice to hear that, but are there any USB 3.0 devices to plug ?

      Mod me troll if you want, but the majority of the devices won't come until Windows has USB 3.0 support.

  4. Poor naming by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The official USB 3 logo has the phrase "superspeed" on it, and the icon has a matching "SS"

    Who keeps on doing this!! Being a relative term, you'll be up to ludicrous speed by USB 5.
    Ditto for fast ethernet.

    1. Re:Poor naming by WinterSolstice · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe that would make the USB5 logo Plaid?

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    2. Re:Poor naming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That SS really confused me.. In Holland we have a not so positive meaning associated with those two letters (same for SA) they are the only two letter combination that is not allowed in license plates for example.

    3. Re:Poor naming by fast+turtle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nope. USB 4.0 will have "OMG Ponies" as it's moniker

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  5. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    actor? actress

  6. It means almost nothing by erroneus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I may have to preface this with the fact that I am a hard core Linux user. I run Mac OS on the wife's machines. I have a WindowsXP VM. That's about it for me personally. I use Linux exclusively and favorably. But what I have to say is the objective truth the way I see it... objectively.

    It means nothing to Windows pushers and nothing to Mac pushers. It only means something when they have something that Linux doesn't support. Then they can point their fingers and say "Linux doesn't support my hardware [again]!"

    Linux isn't entitled to bragging rights of any kind. Sure we have snazzy 3D OpenGL desktops with cubes and spheres. Sure we have the ability to many things "unencumbered" by DRM or other schemes while at the same time can play all media (so far). There are lots of games natively written for Linux though not the ones someone wants to play usually... (No WoW and no chance in hell of an OpenGL version of XWing vs. Tie Fighter....)

    The point is what Linux has is completely unimportant to others... even when they DON'T have it. What is important is what Linux doesn't have.

    Still, I'll chalk this little bullet point up in Linux's favor... but at the same time, none of it matters until really useful USB 3.0 devices are available and at that time there WILL be Windows drivers and support and there WILL be Mac OS X support. "Sure, you had it first... but what could you do with it?"

    (I'll still get modded troll)

    1. Re:It means almost nothing by gbarules2999 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tabbed browsing

      Cue the Opera fanboys.

    2. Re:It means almost nothing by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Informative

      Neither Amiga (Virtual desktops in 1985) or NeWS (tabbed windows and browsing, 1988) were open source.

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  7. For that matter by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There may already be Windows drivers, Microsoft may have simply not released them since, lacking final hardware, that isn't a real useful thing to do. However internally there could well be a driver prepped and ready to go.

  8. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Geekess would mean you are just a sub geek.

    Why exactly? Although not productive anymore, the -ess morpheme is used in English words like actress to indicate a female noun.

    Why does her choice of neologism mean she's a "sub geek?"

  9. Is this really a nice thing for USB3? by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As you mention MS, something comes to my mind... There is nothing stopping MS from _never_ releasing drivers and such "Linux gets support first" gestures could either be a kick to them or could guarantee USB3 becoming a failure just because MS didn't include drivers.

    While Apple is certainly more nice company than MS, Apple is the one who always loves "We had it here first" type of things and all (excluding hopeless fanatics) must thank Apple for helping USB to really take off, with first iMac.

    So, they are taking the chance to make SJobs telling how amazingly fast, unbeliavable thing USB 3 is. If I was a company working on USB3 like, multimedia focused technology, I wouldn't make Apple mad too.

    Especially while there is certainly incoming FW3200 technology, significantly more modern than USB (thanks to its roots) and it half belongs to Apple. They can say "We are waiving our patent price for implementing it and here are its specs including comically low CPU usage". Firewire 1600/3200 is _really_ 1600 and 3200 mbit, no overhead etc. issues and you can CHAIN them without losing bandwidth. Think about netbooks having to have 3-4 USB inputs in such small space. A single FW1600 can handle all with amazing speed. What stops firewire? Of course, the high price of implementation. Apple can actually erase half or more of the price instantly with a single memo.

    There are some great technologies failed just because they weren't supported on Windows natively. Just look how that FAT16/32 dinosaur lives on while there are dozens of better filesystems out there.

    1. Re:Is this really a nice thing for USB3? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is nothing stopping MS from _never_ releasing drivers and such "Linux gets support first" gestures could either be a kick to them or could guarantee USB3 becoming a failure just because MS didn't include drivers.

      Not really. You're wrong because:

      1. USB3 drivers can be bundled with the controllers.
      2. If you mean a stack for USB3, Bluetooth was implemented on XP by WIDCOMM, I see no reason USB3 couldn't also be implemented by a third party.
      3. If everyone but Microsoft has USB3, they will look like bitches. They will add USB3 support just to have the line item. It will suck, just like their USB2 and Bluetooth support, but it will be there.
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    2. Re:Is this really a nice thing for USB3? by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and we all know, users really install third party drivers that didn't come with their computer.

      If you speak with a browser vendor like Firefox, Opera, you may get surprised about how a huge part of population doesn't install their better application just because it didn't come with computer.

      Basically, how many people installed "Intel chipset drivers" (a very small download) to their XP which will make their PC perform way better and compatible?

  10. The worst part about this naming scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This naming scheme invites shady marketing. You know we're going to see USB3.0 mice. They'll be USB3.0 alright, just implementing the low-speed part of the spec. It doesn't matter in case of mice, but users will not expect USB3.0 external hard disks to just implement "hi-speed", yet we will see this kind of up-labeling again: "USB3.0 Hi-Speed."

    (The Superspeed logo does not have SS in it - that would have been a major marketing faux-pas.)

  11. My God! by xSurioNx · · Score: 2, Funny

    They've Gone Plad!!

  12. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about geek with pendulous tits?
    That is still gender neutral.

  13. Re:Could someone post a link? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sarah Sharp, a self-styled 'geekess'

    I don't care what she looks like. If she refers to herself as a "geekess", she's off my list based on annoyability quotient.

    Anyway, you want fun, you gotta go for the Liberal Arts majors. They read "erotica" and learn all that kama sutra stuff.

    Or, do what I did and go for a mathematician. For some reason, female mathematicians are sex machines. The trick is to find one that doesn't look like Leonid Brezhnev with lipstick.

    Here's the secret: hang around the math department and look for the girls with names that sound like they're from the former Soviet Bloc. I don't know why, but over there they breed a certain type of hot chick with strong math aptitude. Probably a result of some sort of early genetic experiment before the fall of the USSR. Anyway, they get over here and go to our best math schools and since back home all the guys are brooding boors who drink too much and don't bathe, it can be as simple as being nice to them (and, of course, bathing regularly). Also, if they're from the former Yugoslavia, it's best not to mention that you thought Clinton was a great president. They still hold a grudge about all the bombing of Belgrade and stuff.

    If you play your cards right, you'll end up with a female that looks like Milla Jovovic and has a brain like Pierre de Fermat. They end up with a nice job in a math department somewhere (or even better, the financial sector) and BAM! you're home relaxed, playing Far Cry 2 and commenting on Slashdot, writing a novel the same way that Brian from Family Guy is "writing a novel" and in twenty minutes she comes home bringing bacon. Of course, be prepared to cook dinner occasionally and perform like a tantric guru. It can be a sweet, if tiring existence.

    Now excuse me, I have something on the stove.

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  14. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about geek with pendulous tits?
    That is still gender neutral.

    and on Slashdot it isn't even gender indicative

  15. Re:Even worse than you can imagine by tyrione · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Seriously? I was thinking of Super Sport. Should all those classic car collectors crap themselves a pile of guilt because you go straight to Weisswurst or Die every time SS follow one another?

    Only a mental moron thinks 666 means Satan. Even a Rabbi will laugh their ass off on that butchered Qabalistic interpretation.

    Hell they might even mock you and say, ``Stay back you devil's advocate!''

    Grow up. This Satan fallacy for the past 2,000 plus years has got to be the greatest one-trick lie ever spread.

  16. CPU usage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    devices that make use of USB 3.0 will still not have drivers.

    That's simply not true. The USB 3.0 spec. is mostly concerned with the phy. & bus. The xHCI spec covers the HCD. The software-level device interfaces have not changed, or have changed very little.

    So does that mean CPU usage will be 100% when I copy files to a hard drive?

    Historically this is the main reason why I always went with FireWire for external enclosures--USB killed CPU on heavy duty workloads. (Of course I haven't used external USB in a while, so my information may now be out of date.)

    And I know we generally have CPU cycles to spare, but it just grates on my engineering "sensitivities" and comes off as an inelegant design. Things may have improved over the years, but early problems have made USB a stigma in my mind for anything more than keyboards and mice.

    1. Re:CPU usage? by Abcd1234 · · Score: 5, Informative

      So does that mean CPU usage will be 100% when I copy files to a hard drive?

      USB 3.0 does away with polling (which is what causes the high CPU usage) with an asynchronous event model whereby the device controller sends service requests to the host (unfortunately, I can't find a great reference for this, although they mention it here).

      Or, to put it another way, it allows USB to enter the 20th century. :)

  17. Re:Could someone post a link? by abigor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Also, if they're from the former Yugoslavia, it's best not to mention that you thought Clinton was a great president. They still hold a grudge about all the bombing of Belgrade and stuff.

    That's only if she's a Serb. If she's Croatian, it could be a point in your favour.

    The takeaway here is that paying attention to geopolitics can pay great dividends.

  18. Re:Could someone post a link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    She's even hotter in this pic:

    http://www.woolfsimmonds.co.uk/sarah-sharp.html

  19. Re:You should be running Linux in 1990s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    bash.org

    Grover: On my linux box, I once swapped out the motherboard, put in a new video card, doubled the RAM, installed a CD burner, installed a RAID array of (6) 200GB SATA Drives, and overclocked the CPU without ever rebooting it

    Rusty: Didn't you reboot it a few weeks ago?

    Grover: Yeah, I had to reboot to install my Thumb Drive

  20. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by sexconker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nope.
    The correct word is actor.
    Same for waiter, steward etc.

    If you're talking about titles, such as Count, or Duke, or Prince, you can go to Countess, or Duchess, or Princess if the position itself gives powers/responsibilities specifically to the wife of the holder (and thus there is actually a separate title to take on).

    A (male) Steward of an estate or position being married would not (usually) confer any responsibilities or powers upon his wife, and thus, a Steward's wife was NOT a Stewardess.
    A (female) Steward's husband would not have a separate title either.

    Today (in the US) the only one I can think of is First Lady. Were we to have a female President, I expect a full month of Wolf Blitzer and crew debating what to call her husband. Hollywood already nailed down "Madame President" (analogous to "Mr. President") through various TV shows and movies.

    Congressman and Congresswoman are incorrect.
    Senator and Representative are correct. The two are designed to be separate, dammit. Having two Houses of Congress means literally having two damned buildings and bodies (houses) of meeting (congress) that are separate.
    If you really need a term for a member of either one, Congressionor is a pretty bad-ass-sounding title.

  21. Re:Even worse than you can imagine by wampus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It was definitely Satan that was behind 667 MHz. Without a doubt. Or rounding 666.67 MHz up to 667 looked nicer. One or the other. But probably Satan. Also, I think you are probably the kid in class who ate too much paste.

  22. Re:Could someone post a link? by jesperhh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know why, but over there they breed a certain type of hot chick with strong math aptitude. Probably a result of some sort of early genetic experiment before the fall of the USSR.

    Clearly the Bene Gesserit of the USSR

  23. Isn't this useless without USB 3.0 hardware? by brentonboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I haven't seen any USB 3.0 devices for sale yet. I suspect that they won't appear until sometime after Windows and Mac support USB 3. So, as cool as this is, there is no need to rush off and implement it on your own now. You can wait until your next kernel update.

  24. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WHy do you need to indicate a female noun?

    For me it boils down to this:
    It is an un-need divide in a culture. Instead of being a group of geeks, we end up creating geeks and geekess's. Which seems to lead to an US v THEM aspect in everything it touches.

    True gender equality doesn't need this artificial line.

    Also, I look at history:
    Princess were inferior to prince, Goddess inferior to God.

    I don't think we need that any more.

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  25. Re:You should be running Linux in 1990s by gbarules2999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Linux isn't the operating system it was in the 1990's, just like Windows.

  26. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Although never productive,

    I love it when people who don't know what they're talking about correct me. The -ess morpheme was a productive morpheme for feminine nouns in English, round about the 16th century. There are a number of borrowings into English from French that use -ess(e) which are feminine forms, but was also used to form novel feminine words, such as authoress, giantess, Jewess, patroness, poetess, priestess, quakeress, tailoress, seamstress, and songstress - none of which are borrowings.

    the -ess morpheme is used incorrectly in English words like actress to indicate a female noun.

    Except that, of course, there's nothing incorrect about it - outmoded perhaps, but an obvious fact in the lexicon.

    Consider the cigar and the cigarette.
    Pirouette and pirouet.

    Not sure what your point is; why not also consider:
    leather and leatherette (a kind of fake leather), or
    usher and usherette (a female usher).

  27. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Actress" is also a correct word, specifically for female.

    No, it's a nonsense word. Like Doctoress or Plumberess. It is forced into the vocabulary by women who, for some reason, feel equal means making up new words. I blame Hollywood for being to afraid to correct it.

    Dictionary.com (based on Random House Dictionary) disagrees. Given the late 16th century origin of actress, any nefarious feminist plot seems awfully unlikely. And it seems to me that the entertainment industry is moving toward using the gender-neutral actor, which Dictionary.com confirms in its discussion of -ess. We're generally moving away from -ess, but many such usages are still considered correct. A few might never go away.

    - T

  28. Re:Could someone post a link? by narooze · · Score: 2, Funny

    Leonid Brezhnev with lipstick.

    Well, still no lipstick, but a start anyway... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SPpWp0E7Th8/SGJjHYjA_oI/AAAAAAAAAVI/e0wWURoKzHY/s400/brezhnev.jpg

  29. Re:Could someone post a link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You guys are fucking creepy.

  30. Re:Could someone post a link? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 4, Funny

    I could engage in some huge diatribe about how you're objectifying women

    Yes, but talk like that will just make you popular with the lesbians.

    Which is perfectly alright. But if you're straight it's a lonely existence.

  31. Re:Linux is full of fail by taucross · · Score: 2, Informative

    Slashdot suffers just as badly from the same moronic posts an ill informed individuals that think there poorly thought out opinions are facts,

    Yes, apparently it does.

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  32. Re:Wasn't it also the first for USB too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah yeah yeah Apple had USB in the 1930s because they are just so awesome. Don't you get tired of defending a company you probably have 0 shares in and is...just a company. Maybe if you Apple guys kept things on technical merit and not what's "cool at starbucks" then maybe people would take you seriously.

  33. I wonder when... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder when Microsoft will catch up, so that Windows will be, you know, "ready for the desktop"?

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  34. Re:Could someone post a link? by Perf · · Score: 2, Funny

    For some reason, female mathematicians are sex machines.

    They end up with a nice job in a math department somewhere (or even better, the financial sector) and BAM! you're home relaxed, playing Far Cry 2 and commenting on Slashdot, writing a novel the same way that Brian from Family Guy is "writing a novel" and in twenty minutes she comes home bringing bacon. Of course, be prepared to cook dinner occasionally and perform like a tantric guru. It can be a sweet, if tiring existence.

    Now excuse me, I have something on the stove.

    It's all fun and games until your math bunny starts multiplying. Then you're stuck at home with dirty diapers. ;-)

  35. Re:Could someone post a link? by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Looks good to me:"

    Bah, pictures mean nothing. Check out her youtube video

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  36. Hey kiddies! by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would you kids please get your wanking done before you start posting on Slashdot? Panting and drooling every time you see a female is pretty boring for others...

  37. Re:Could someone post a link? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 5, Funny

    You must be new here.

  38. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Serious+Callers+Only · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please explain to me why this is sexist?

    Because prudes had trouble distinguishing in the past between an Actress and a Prostitute? Because casting directors used to be sexist? Should we use the male term for all female professions, or is this one special?

    I think it's time everyone got with the times and dropped all this 'Actor' bullshit for female actresses. It's absurd and carries baggage from the past that we simply shouldn't care about.

    The real sexism is assuming that we can't use a word because if the listener is a misogynistic sexist they might think the actress is actually a lady of ill repute.

  39. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by jabithew · · Score: 2, Funny

    Congressionor is a pretty bad-ass-sounding title

    Maybe, but it's only one step away from Congressionator.

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  40. Re:Wasn't it also the first for USB too? by X0563511 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or maybe you should put the troll-smacking stick down and realize that Apple did indeed have USB in their home computers before anyone else did.

    At least they got that right... USB is an extremely useful thing to have around.

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  41. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by smoker2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That says more about you than anyone else. Do you believe women are inferior ? If not, why can't they have their own titles ? What about hero and heroine ? It's simply a way of making each word more than the sum of its letters, but of course, especially in US english, you can't do that because it confuses the proles. So you end up with 2 words in the same sentence that mean the same thing. "And I also installed a new video card as well". Seriously, watching the discovery channel makes me mad. They pretend they are being serious and scientific and speak like uneducated street kids, reading it from a card. Quite often making huge logical blunders as a result. And as for things like CSI etc, don't get me started. One memorable one was Grissom saying, "terminal velocity is 9.8m/s" NO IT ISN'T ! Acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s/s and terminal velocity is the speed reached DUE to that acceleration. Or on Numbers where gimboid explains how a rainbow works - "the water droplets split each colour up into its component parts" NO THEY DON'T ! the water droplets split white light into its component colours. I don't care if it matters to the story, stupid errors like that are indicative of how dumb the writers are.
    </RANT>

  42. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by eam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Of course, if I was really a nerd, I would check my sentences for typos...

  43. Re:Could someone post a link? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2, Funny

    You guys are fucking creepy.

    No, but they wish they were.

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  44. Re:The word 'Geek' is gender neutral by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 2, Funny
    What a typo!

    Acknowledgement of gender is not sexist.

  45. Re:Could someone post a link? by theblondebrunette · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tell that to Reiser :) He had a Russian chick and look what happened :)