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British Court Rules Against Blogger Anonymity

An anonymous reader writes "In a dangerous judgment for British bloggers and whistleblowers, a British court has ruled (absurdly) that because blogging itself is a public activity, bloggers have 'no reasonable expectation of privacy' regarding their identities, and newspapers are allowed to publish their identities if they can find them by fair or foul means. A British police detective who recently won the Orwell Prize for his excellent political writing used his blog to write highly critical accounts of police activities and unethical behavior, making very powerful enemies in the process. A well-funded newspaper with powerful connections quickly heard of his blog and decided it was absolutely vital to expose his identity using an investigative journalist. Like any good newspaper, the blogger anonymized the people and the locations in all the cases he discussed on his blog, but the newspaper alleges these were not sufficiently anonymized and complains that they could work out the identities, though British newspapers don't complain that they are allowed to publish the identities of men who are falsely accused of rape and cleared in court. The newspaper also helpfully contacted the blogger's employer, and his job is now threatened."

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  1. Police state by tsa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you live in the EU but also want to live in a police state, look no further. Great(?) Britain is the place to be.

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    1. Re:Police state by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The parent has been modded "flaimbait", and perhaps it is, but it is also not far from the truth. Limmited privacy laws, CCTV everywhere, GB is the "poster child" for government intrusivness.

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    2. Re:Police state by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      But at least you can feel... secure? This looks like satire, but scarily enough, it is real:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/toasty/2171185463/sizes/l/

    3. Re:Police state by ZombieWomble · · Score: 2, Informative

      'Great Britain' refers to all the hundreds of islands around the British mainland.

      This is pretty much exactly wrong - "Great Britain" is the name of the island which could be described as the "British Mainland", which contains most of England, Scotland and Wales. 'Great' typically meaning "large", it's easy to see how that comes about.

    4. Re:Police state by legirons · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The parent has been modded "flaimbait", and perhaps it is, but it is also not far from the truth. Limmited privacy laws, CCTV everywhere, GB is the "poster child" for government intrusivness.

      arbitrary searches of innocent people

    5. Re:Police state by ChiRaven · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't be so smug if you're from the U.S.A., though. There is legislation under consideration that would outlaw anonymous presence on the internet AT ALL in this country ... EVERY web address and identity would have to be registered with the government. Hasn't passed yet, but it's being considered.

    6. Re:Police state by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Indeed. It's worse than that - they've also taken to doing random drug searches at places of public transport, where everyone getting off a train that day is detained to be sniffed by a dog. I guess their logic is that because it's only a dog sniff, that doesn't in itself count as an official search (unless the dog barks, in which case you get pulled aside for a proper search). But the problem is that nonetheless people are forcibly detained, and I would be curious to see it tested in court.

      I experienced this the other weekend in Cambridge - despite the ridiculous over the top scale of it (I honestly thought there'd been a murder or bombscare, what with police and police tents all over the place, but oh no, it was fishing for drugs), they only had one dog, meaning a 30 minute delay in a queue before I was let out. My experience was similar to this write up of one in 2008. No explanation was given, nor any indication of what law we were being detained under.

      The Guardian reports that this sort of thing is becoming common at underground stations too:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/mar/31/internationalcrime

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/jul/09/drugsandalcohol

      Afterwards I took a photo, only to have an undercover police officer suddenly reveal himself to me, claiming I wasn't allowed to take pictures of him without permission. So to get slightly back on topic, apparently in Britain we have no right to privacy in a public place (whether it's blogging, or indeed CCTV, or indeed getting off of public transport), but for some reason that doesn't apply to the police...

  2. No wayback archive copy available. by auric_dude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The blog is no longer accessible http://nightjack.wordpress.com/ and can not be reached via http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://nightjack.wordpress.com/

    1. Re:No wayback archive copy available. by FourthAge · · Score: 3, Informative

      I am very sad that I did not take the opportunity to copy Nightjack's blog while it was still available, I assumed it would always stay online; silly of me, considering what has happened to other police bloggers after they are "outed".

      However, you can still read the post that won him the prize (it's the yellow text).

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    2. Re:No wayback archive copy available. by Spyware23 · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fnightjack.wordpress.com

      "In Cache" link works as usual. I think most/all data can be recovered this way.

    3. Re:No wayback archive copy available. by FourthAge · · Score: 3, Informative

      He's the judge who ruled that Nightjack had no right to anonymity.

      This has caused some anger, because Eady has ruled that various other people (paedophiles, for example) do have a right to privacy.

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  3. Appeal? by plasmacutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So can this be appealed to a higher court, and will the order be stayed until such time as it can be reviewed?

    I don't see this as an issue until it sets national precedent, otherwise its much like the other short-sighted and technically incompetent rulings in podunk areas of the US later overturned by more discriminating higher courts.

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  4. So the government stayed out of it... good. by dan_sdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First things first: it is hugely unethical to "expose" a blogger who wishes to remain anonymous. The newspaper should be ashamed of itself, and I recommend unsubscribing if you subscribe to it currently. Also, send them a letter telling them why you are unsubscribing.

    That said.... what was the court supposed to do? Penalize the newspaper for doing investigative journalism? Throw the editor in jail for finding out the name of a blogger? "Court Rules Against Blogger Anonymity" is a bit overdone, don't you think?

    1. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by Romancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      More to the point of double standards...

      What has this newspaper done in the last ten years where they have cited anonymous sources? Would they like another newspaper or perhaps a blogger to helpfully find out their sources and out them to their employers?

      I'm pretty confident that they would have something to say on behalf of anonymity when it comes to their "service".

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    2. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, no, the government didn't "stay out of it". That's the problem in this case, you see. He upset lots of very senior politicians with his acerbic writing. Two of them in particular - including one extremely wealthy guy who serves in a senior role in the government - were so pissed off about it, they wanted to know who the author was and silence him. They pulled strings with their great friend(s) at the very well-funded British newspaper empire who were persuaded it was so important, urgent and "in the public interest anyway" that immediately approval was given to throw a large part of that financial year's remaining contingency account funds at an investigative journalism team with orders to "get answers 'yesterday'". This case is all about people in positions of power abusing their positions by asking friends in other positions of power to do a little backscratching for them. Call it the old boys' network. It's an absolute disgrace that this sort of thing is still going on and it is an affront to democracy. The timing is very suspicious, as the blogger was just about to blog about a corruption case, not yet exposed, involving some very senior politicians. What a coincidence his blog stopped just then. Maybe time for somebody else should take up the cudgel... Anon for a damn good reason.

    3. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What has this newspaper done in the last ten years where they have cited anonymous sources?

      He's not just a source he's the author. Authors are doing things in public hence they don't have any presumption of privacy. Sources talk privately to a journalist, since it is a private conversation they have a presumption of privacy. If he wanted anonymity he should have been a whistle blower and talked to a journalist.

    4. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by univalue · · Score: 2

      yes, it seems to be a double standard, for someone who like to quote anonymous sources then out somebody else anonymous sources.

    5. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by spacefiddle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh don't fool yourself. The papers know they're obsolete, and need to keep "real journalism" in their own ad-laden, corporate owned pages. You just try to make a major-outlet reporter reveal sources and name names; no really, go ahead. I want to watch.

      Blogging isn't safe! Trust the paper! Argh bleah puke. Gimme a break. Yeah, you're right, they should be ashamed. So what? Do you see "for shame!" holding a lot of weight in politics or business..? I don't think "and they should be ashamed of themselves, Your Honor" is how i want to safeguard my freedoms. We're going to need to work a little harder.

    6. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...but since he dared to cut the middle man and publish himself he should be punished?

      Are you working for some record label or what?

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    7. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by lgw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Journalists do not have magic powers. There's no reason why you should have to allow a journalist to put his spin on your account in order to retain anonymity. It's critical to give whistleblowers anonymity if you want to protect yourself from your government. Sadly, the fundamental truth that we need to protect ourselves from our governemnt before any other threat seem to have lost popularity in recent decades.

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    8. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by lgw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you say something in public you can't reasonably expect people not to know who you are.

      Why would you believe that? Without anonymous whistleblowing, the government can just kill anyone who objects to loudly (and many governments do just that). An anonymous blogger shouldn't have much credibility, but if what he's saying can be validated then he doesn't need much.

      You must be a working journalist hoping desperately to hold on to his job in a world that has moved on.

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    9. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...but since he dared to cut the middle man and publish himself he should be punished?

      Did you actually read what was in the blog?

      Are you still sure he shouldn't be punished?

      Perhaps we should start allowing doctors and lawyers to violate doctor-patient confidentiality and attorney-client privilege as well, as long as they pseudo-anonymise the blogs where they do it? Then we could start respecting the anonymous briefing around Westminster, because those guys are totally doing it for the good of everyone, and I'd definitely want the media to give full weight to what they have to say without putting their name to it.

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    10. Re:So the government stayed out of it... good. by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Nope not a working journalist. I'm not arguing against the ability to be an anonymous whistle blower, I'm arguing against being an anonymous journalist. If I'm reading someone's opinion and am going to be protesting government actions, or even just quoting them among friends I want to know more about them than that he goes by Xfactor41 on talkingtrash.com.

      A journalist with an anonymous source can be tracked down and talked with, can get back in contact with his source (possibly) if more information is needed, and if it is something where an anonymous source should be revealed it can be accomplished. For example leaked national security information, its found to be libelous (journalists in most free countries have a "qualified privilege" as far as defamation goes as long as they spoke in something that is in the publics interest, sources do not share that right) can be forced to reveal sources. If the author themselves are anonymous then what? You just have a statement that can't be corrobated and defamation laws that can't be enforced.

      Part of what keeps the social contract working is that you have freedom to say what you want but you also have a responsibility for what you say. If you allow anonymous journalism all that happens if an author gets a reputation for shoddy research, or their comments are found to be illegal is they open up an new account with a different user name. There is no longer the responsibility that goes along with the special protections journalists enjoy and the necessary public service that journalism is supposed to provide.

  5. Shocked by sexconker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Britain? Monitoring? Censorship?

    Surely you jest!

  6. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    look forward to once more rising up against these tyrants and liberating ourselves from their oppression.

    It has worked in the past... Which makes me think people are a LOT stupider than they used to be; because the option is never presented as a viable solution anymore.

    1. Re:I for one... by turing_m · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which makes me think people are a LOT stupider than they used to be; because the option is never presented as a viable solution anymore.

      Not more stupid, just more effective means of control (press, TV, education system) coupled with an acceptable standard of living that prevents people from revolting. The option is not presented because it is not in the interest of the presenters.

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    2. Re:I for one... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll miss out on TV and shopping if protest.

  7. As a British citizen, I'm torn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You should have the right to privacy if you want it, but I can't really take anyone seriously that doesn't have the balls to put a face behind a post when it comes to criticizing the powers-that-be, corruption or the like. If it's not worth putting yourself on the line, it's not worth reading.

    Quite frankly, if you don't have guts, don't bother. AC because I don't have an account and this post, quite frankly, worth the time of making one.

    1. Re:As a British citizen, I'm torn by davecb · · Score: 3, Informative

      Then only persons with nothing to lose will dare to criticize. That is bad public policy, and the reason that various countries have "whistleblower" laws.

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  8. Free speech != anonymous speech by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Related, but not the same thing at all.

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  9. Foul play by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

    newspapers are allowed to publish their identities if they can find them by fair or foul means.

    So foul is fair and illegal is legal? Welcome to the 21st century, kids.

    I can see why they should be able to out someone if they got the identity by subtrefuge, but if the identity is gained through illagel means, that's different. Or should be, at least.

  10. WTF, sensationalize much? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is no there there in this ruling. All the court said was that if a newspaper can find out who a blogger is, they can publish that information. This was not the court saying that the blog host had to tell the police who it was. There is some questionable logic used by the judge, but this is not a case of government abuse of power. It is a case of a a reporter doing investigative reporting.

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  11. He expected to remain anonymous? by Deosyne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Continuously publish on the Internet, become popular, and expect to remain anonymous? Yeah, good luck with that. Even sources that abstract themselves in the process by providing the information to reporters risk exposure in doing so. Eliminating the middle man just means that there are less people to go through when trying to get to the source. I salute the dude for trying to get the word out about immoral police practices but reality doesn't much care about intent.

    On a side note, that summary is a mess, even discounting the repeated attempts to slant the crap out of the story.

  12. Orwell Prize? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Informative

    The linked Wikipedia page for the article summary has no one named Horton as an Orwell Prize recipient (or even anyone who has made the shortlist) in any year, let alone 2008 or 2009.

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    1. Re:Orwell Prize? by arkhan_jg · · Score: 4, Informative

      He won the 2009 Orwell special prize for blogs - under the pseudonym he used on the blog, Jack Night.

      Wikipedia doesn't say much about the special prizes, only the Journalism and Book prizes.

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  13. It is becoming ever more clear that V was right by Derekloffin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It won't be the US that falls into a totalitarian regime masking itself as a democracy. Not for lack of trying, but the UK has a lead on them they'll never catch up.

  14. Common sense ruling. by pigpilot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the UK journalists have never had a right to remain anonymous.

    In fact there are only a handful of people with a right to remain anonymous when their identiy may be easily found out and these are typically rape victims or minors.

    As to the blogger who is certainly breaching his own employment contract and may in fact be breaking the law by disclosing confidential information it is the height of arrogance for them to assume they are somehow above everyone else.

    There is an assumption that a persons private life can remain private unless there is a "public interest" that overrides it, but a person's identity is not protected.

    In this case there is a clear 'public interest' in the identity of a police officer who thinks confidentiality doesn't apply to them as otherwise how could you ever trust the police not to blogg about whatever you tell them.

    1. Re:Common sense ruling. by FourthAge · · Score: 5, Informative

      I read his blog, all of it, and I can assure you that he didn't reveal any confidential details, no matter what Sunday Times hacks might claim. His exposure was not in the public interest. It was in the Government's interest.

      In any case, politics was a very minor aspect of Nightjack's blog. He started off writing just about his work; both positive and negative aspects of being a detective. Some of the best stories on the blog (e.g. his "24 hours to crack the case" series) dealt with successful work that he had been involved with. Some were not about policing at all.

      However, the UK Government is always interfering with the police. Their social policies cause a lot of problems which the police are required to solve. The UK is not a socialist paradise, it is a complete mess, and this is because of the malice and incompetence of our "elected" rulers. In a minority of posts, Nightjack told the public exactly what he had to deal with, and after the Orwell Prize raised his profile, he became an embarrassment to the police and to the Government. That was his "crime" and that's why he was shut down. It doesn't help the public, it helps the Government, because that's one fewer dissenting voice.

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    2. Re:Common sense ruling. by Eil · · Score: 2

      There is an assumption that a persons private life can remain private unless there is a "public interest" that overrides it, but a person's identity is not protected.

      When we talk about freedom of speech, "speech" means the expression (and usually distribution) of ideas. Supressing speech is censorship. There cannot be true freedom of speech without anonymity. There cannot be true freedom without freedom of speech.

      I know the British people have never been all that excited about their individual rights, but the police state that's sprung up there in the last decade is not going away now. (At least not, without some major revolution... you tell me what the odds are on that.) The thing I fear most is that American goverment is going to look over the pond one day and go, "hmm, maybe we can learn a few tricks from those blokes." If they aren't already.

  15. Not quite what it seems by Budenny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The blogger in question left enough clues around in his postings that he could be easily identified. Like he for instance referred to his position in the Force, and then referred to his membership in an athletic club. There only was one office of that rank in that club's membership. He then described cases he had been involved in, without adequately disguising the details, so it was clear that it could only have been that case that the blog referred to as having been one the blogger had been involved in.

    He then sought to prevent the Times from publishing his name.

    Well, surely, if you want anonymity, make at least some effort to stop people finding out who you are? It does not seem very rational to leave around all the clues anyone needs to identify you, but to focus your efforts on making it legally impossible for them to publish it, once they have made the fairly small effort required to find out.

    A case which really touched on the anonymity of bloggers would be one in which it was undiscoverable by ordinary means such as the above, but the courts ordered the ISP or provider to disclose the identity. Now that would be a different and much more serious issue.

    1. Re:Not quite what it seems by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You're barking up the wrong tree: the question is, why would a trustworthy investigative journalist be going after this guy's identity in the first place! If anything, they should be teaming up to uncover police corruption all the way to the top!

      My credit card records and gym memberships might limit the group of people to which I could belong - but come on, investgated by a crusading heroic journalist, like some sort of child molester?

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    2. Re:Not quite what it seems by ljw1004 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think most investigative journalism involves identifying people who wish to remain anonymous... "Which politician was the recipient of this bribe? (sorry, he wants to remain anonymous)"

  16. British Courts are Insane by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Britain is the world's capital of libel tourism. Because of that, the ubiquitous CCTV coverage, and the RIP act, it's on my list of places to never visit, along with, say, the Congo.

    PARIS -- You're an investment bank in Iceland with a complaint about a tabloid newspaper in Denmark that published critical articles in Danish. Whom do you call?

    A pricey London libel lawyer.

    That is called libel tourism by lawyers in the media trade. And Britain remains a comfortable destination for the rich in search of friendly courts, which have already weighed complaints from people who consider themselves unfairly tarred with labels like tax dodger, terrorist financier or murky Qaeda operative.

    1. Re:British Courts are Insane by schon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Disclaimer: I am a UK citizen.

      Personally I prefer the UK system.

      Evidently that's because you don't understand it.

      False defamation can cause a lot of damage that might never be fully taken back or fully compensated for. Why should somebody have to prove the defamation is false? That's rather harsh, don't you think?

      The problem isn't that someone has to prove that the defamation is false (which is wrong, BTW), the problem is that in the UK it doesn't matter whether it's true or not - in the UK, if you accuse someone of defamation, they can be found guilty even if they can prove their statements were true.

      That's like guilty until proven innocent.

      Only because you're misrepresenting the facts. Neither the US nor the UK defamation laws work the way you believe.

  17. (absurdly) by Korbeau · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please do not state strong opinions out of nowhere in parenthesis without backing them up or giving a source in a first sentence of a summary.

  18. The Biggest Danger by gijoel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm of two minds about this.

    Firstly I think the cop did act in an unprofessional manner by airing opinions about cases that should only have been brought up in court. IANAL, but I wouldn't be surprised if some lawyer tried to use this blog as a way of getting their client reduced/dismissed charges.

    Secondly, this is going to harm whistleblowers in the future. People are going to be less likely to air their thoughts and opinions if they have think its' going to be traced back to them.

    We live in an age of spin. And that means controling the message. Whistle blowing bloggers are a loose cannon and have to be stopped at all costs. That means tracking them down, and bringing what ever pressure you can bear to make them shut and sit down. The Times has now justified any future partisan journalist's attempts to discredit whistle blowers.

  19. what else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps someone's voting preferences will be made public now since it's done in public as well?

  20. You Fail by mattwarden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Summary fails. Gagging the newspaper from printing newsworthy information it discovered would be outrageous.

  21. And the alternative is...? by sirwired · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay, let's say I did have a reasonable expectation of privacy when posting anonymously online... I own a restaurant and start spamming nasty (but not libelous) reviews about the competition. Does that make it illegal for my competitor to point out that my reviews come from their business rival (and therefore are biased) if they figure out it's me? Should they be able to use a subpeona to find out? No. But if they figure it out without breaking any laws, or abusing the legal process, why shouldn't they be able to publish what they have figured out?

    Now that would be horrible violation of free speech. As anyone with any familiarity of 1st amendment law knows (and yes, I know this case is in the UK), prior restraint is subject to strict scrutiny. This doesn't even come close to meeting that standard. I can't imagine a single lowly district judge that wouldn't slap any such law down without hesitation.

    SirWired

  22. Re:Uh, what about newspapers? by YayaY · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, and you know the name of the journalist.

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  23. Not the government by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not sure if you are aware of what a "free press" is, but that means they are generally allowed to say what they want as long as it is not libelous. One of the only constraints regarding publishing a person's name is that, if they are not public figures, nor done something to get into the public record, they don't get their name published.

    Since this guy was a public figure, and was doing things to get himself in the public record, he is not protected. So the court got it right.

    What you seem to be saying is that, if I stand on a street corner spouting whatever political drivel I feel like, and I don't put my name on a placard in front of me, NO ONE is allowed to say who I am? So is someone is listening to me and says "Hey, who is this guy?" and someone else says "That's R2.0 - I recognize him from the same drivel on Slashdot", I can sue?

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  24. No win situation by jools33 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whichever way this was ruled the paper could release the identity of the blogger - if they ruled against allowing publication of identity then the paper could just release the identity in an anonymous blog and with the new restriction in place noone could release the papers identity either... a catch 22.

  25. Rights means responsibility by DaveGod · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't see why he should expect a right to privacy. If you are going to make public accusations and attacks, then the other parties have a right to defend. If he was merely debating a matter of principle (purely philosophical) then his person would be irrelevant to the argument and yes it would be at a minimum very bad form to name him. But he was pointing figures about specific organisations.

    The right of free speech does not confer any kind of right to anonymity. That is a specific right only granted where it is in the public interest. Indeed it is the reverse: with rights comes responsibility; if you want to say things then be prepared to defend it. There is no question over free speech here, the newspaper is not restricting what he is saying on his blog, they are merely calling it to account (whether you agree with their argument or not).

    That does not at all mean newspapers etc should have an automatic right to discover his information. But if they are able to discover the name via legitimate means, that's his fault for not covering himself.

    Note he is the one actively publishing, publicising and promoting his allegations. This is important. It is only those whom publish allegations that should be held responsible for them. One issue with UK Law* is that it considers any comment posted online without restricted access to be publishing, failing to distinguish between what is really publishing and what is merely chit chat.

    * (by UK law I mean the various laws in the UK member states, there is no such thing as "UK Law").

  26. This is a ruling in favour of free speech! by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The court has not ruled that anonymity is illegal. The court has simply ruled that should a newspaper have some information that it considers newsworthy, it is entitled to publish.

    Personally, I think it was rather reprehensible of a newspaper not to respect confidentiality as a matter of policy but it's their legal right and it's up to the blogger to protect his own anonymity.

  27. Why not use ordinary whistleblower methods? by EWAdams · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whistleblowers are usually protected by the law, and get support from the press and friendly politicians into the bargain.

    This guys breached his employment contract and doesn't want to take the consequences. Incidentally, all he got was a reprimand. AND he wrote an article (therefore got paid) for the very same publication that outed him!

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  28. Headline Spin by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me rewrite that headline and put the opposite spin on it.

    "In an encouraging move affirming freedom of the press in Britain, a British judge has ruled against newspaper censorship, saying that a newspaper has the right to publish the name of a blogger if they are able to find it. In a landmark decision, Mr Justice Eady refused to grant an injunction to stop The Times from printing the name of Richard Horton, a blogger who anonymously revealed confidential details of police cases on his blog. "

    Does that sound better? Same facts, just reversing the spin.

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    1. Re:Headline Spin by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed. That was one of the most loaded Slashdot summaries I've seen in a long time. For example, contrary to the direct claim in the summary, the officer's career is not in danger. He appears to have received a formal, written warning about behaviour in violation of professional standards he knew he was violating when he wrote the blog.

      In any case, I'm not sure this ruling is a bad thing. As the judge pointed out, if someone is being critical of essential public institutions and claiming a certain authority, there is a public interest argument that the people reading the blog should not be prevented through legal restraint from finding out how qualified and experienced the person actually is. After all, if The Times could identify the blogger, they obviously weren't really anonymous in the first place, were they? And as the parent points out, upholding anonymity here would in turn violate the freedom of the press, also not something to be done without a very good reason.

      In any case, if something being announced or discussed on a blog is serious enough to threaten the blogger's career prospects, shouldn't that blogger already be questioning the ethics of continuing to work for that employer anyway? There's a long-standing tradition that when senior military or political figures wish to criticise something they truly believe to be unethical or inappropriate behaviour, they do so in their resignation speech.

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  29. Re:Shameful excuse for a democracy... by gsslay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real story here, is that the UK government is trying to censor the opinions of its employees.

    No, that's not the real story. that's the story you've made up in your head. Where exactly is the involvement of the UK Government in this story? You won't find any, because there isn't any.

    This police officer was in a position of trust, with access to sensitive information that has a very real impact on people's lives. And he was publishing it on the internet with flimsy anonymity. This is nothing to do with his political opinions, it's about flagrant abuse of his position. This is some guy gossiping about people's lives because he believed he knew better than everyone else.

    Frankly, losing his own anonymity is the least of what he had coming.

  30. Re:Shameful excuse for a democracy... by hackel · · Score: 2, Informative

    I didn't actually read the linked article (Times? Really?), I had only read the BBC article on the subject yesterday: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8103731.stm

    A serving detective whose anonymous blog carried criticisms of government ministers and police bureaucracy has been disciplined by his force.

    ...

    Mr Justice Eady said the blog contained opinions on a number of social and political issues relating to the police and the administration of justice.

    He added 'Night Jack' had expressed strong opinions on matters of political controversy and had also criticised a number of ministers.

    The judge said the blogger had known he risked disciplinary action if his employers found out one of its officers was communicating to the public in such a way.

    This was one of the main reasons why "Night Jack" was keen to maintain his anonymity, he added.

    Certainly sounds like unreasonable political censorship to me.

  31. Re:Uh, what about newspapers? by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The point is that if you do find out the journalist's sources, you have the right to publish their names.

  32. Re:No Individual Rights in Britain by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Too bad you don't have individual rights in Britain.

    No point having something written that the government is supposed to obide by when they won't. For examples of this, see USA.

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  33. Re:Reversing the spin by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about the truth, then?

    "In an encouraging move affirming freedom of the press in Britain, a British judge has ruled against newspaper censorship, saying that a newspaper has the right to publish the name of a blogger if they are able to find it."

    Oh, wait. That's the same as the anti-spin to TFA. My bad.

    The only thing worse, historically, than newspapers ferreting out and publishing information is the legal ability of a government to prevent that. Yes, it's bad for this particular whistle blower. But not as bad as direct censorship.

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  34. Re:Appeal? Unlikely by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So many people are missing the point.

    A. Revealing a whistleblower bad.

    B. Government censorship bad.

    C. B >> A in importance, so says history.

    Just because one thinks one is more important doesn't imply one thinks the other is wrong. You can think both are important and then do a value-judgement on which should take precedence. Personally, I think history shows the latter over the former. "Legally anonymous" whistleblowers are a good, but woefully inadequate, watchdog on a government with the legal ability to censor.

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  35. Re:Not convinced... by dimeglio · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Exposing wrong doing doesn't require someone to be identifiable but rather a trigger that might launch an investigation to confirm if there is in fact wrong doing and take corrective actions if necessary. For example, as a public servant your discover irregularities in the paperwork, you take it to you boss who says "everything is fine, don't worry about it." You feel obliged to do something but are afraid of losing your job and maybe your career, so you expose this scheme anonymously in a blog about government wrong doings. Unless there is a law that protects whistle blowers, you will likely be in trouble.

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  36. Re:Uh, what about newspapers? by Capsaicin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since the source IS the journalist in this case, it is entirely inappropriate to strip them of their anonymity.

    Is it entirely appropriate for a court to interfere with the right of a newspaper to publish what they have discovered by investigative journalism, (in this case the name of an anonymous blogger) when such publication involves no untruth or defamation? Eady J thought not, and refused to issue an order gag order.

    I guess this comes down to which right one regards as paramount. The right to anonymity or the freedom of the press.

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