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Indian Tiger Park Now Tiger-Free

Panna National Park is now officially tiger free making it the second Indian tiger sanctuary to no longer have a tiger population. A census was conducted in the park, after authorities reported no Bengal Tiger sightings for a long time. Three years ago the park had a population of 24 tigers; however, none were found this year. Forest minister Rajendra Shukla is optimistic about the news and says, "Panna is our only park which has lost on this count. Three of state's reserve forests — Kanha, Bandhavgarh and Pench — have been adjudged among the best managed tiger reserves in the country."

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  1. Tiger-free tiger park... by Shag · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do you say "you're doing it wrong" in their local language?

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    1. Re:Tiger-free tiger park... by xSauronx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tiger Park

      you keep saying these words....i do not think they mean what you think they mean

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    2. Re:Tiger-free tiger park... by syousef · · Score: 5, Funny

      How do you say "you're doing it wrong" in their local language?

      "Please hold while we bring up your account"

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    3. Re:Tiger-free tiger park... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you! Come again!

    4. Re:Tiger-free tiger park... by b1t+r0t · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is it anything like a Car Park?

      I can't help but imagine dozens of sleeping tigers lined up in rows.

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    5. Re:Tiger-free tiger park... by JosKarith · · Score: 1

      How do you say "you're doing it wrong" in their local language?

      Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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    6. Re:Tiger-free tiger park... by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 1

      I have a theory, which is mine. And a theory.

      Homer must have bought Lisa's rock, and through misadventure Apu brought it with him on a visit back home...

      I thought that I just saw a Unicorn, myself. But it was just a regular horse, with one of the horns broken off.

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  2. if evolution by markringen · · Score: 0

    if evolution allowed them to prosper we wouldn't even be in the way! causing the eventual end of a species is just that the end!

    1. Re:if evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Um, evolution, unlike an God or such, isn't right or wrong so there's nothing wrong with saving species that are dying.
      Or are you trying do be funny?

    2. Re:if evolution by Nursie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Tigers aren't going extinct, they're becoming a captive species.

      The largest population of tigers in the world is in the USA. Hell, there are more tigers in Texas than there are in the wild.

      It's weird, sick and sad in equal measure. Poor bastards. This international symbol of power and grace is being wiped out in the wild by fear, ignorance and superstition and becomes little more than a colourful pet for rich, fat americans.

    3. Re:if evolution by russotto · · Score: 1

      It's weird, sick and sad in equal measure. Poor bastards. This international symbol of power and grace is being wiped out in the wild by fear, ignorance and superstition and becomes little more than a colourful pet for rich, fat americans.

      You say this as if it's somehow the Americans' fault.

    4. Re:if evolution by Nursie · · Score: 1

      It's not really the Americans fault. It's twisted that the fact we've allowed them to become such widespread captives is the only thing to save them.

      Keeping captive tigers in vast numbers in private hands seems wrong. I don't think for a second that 10% of the captive tigers in the US are there for conservation, they're there to show off the wealth of the owner.

    5. Re:if evolution by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      It's not natural selection that killed those tigers - it was us, we humans. We are obliged to undo what we've done, in so far as we can.

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    6. Re:if evolution by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      +1 sad truth

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    7. Re:if evolution by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      I would argue that humans are still part of natural selection, having become somewhat of a force of nature in our own right. It's just like any time in the past; animals that can't adapt to a changing situation die off. We've been the cause of any number of extinctions; the only difference is that this is a larger animal than most, and we have a certain collective emotional attachment to the species.

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    8. Re:if evolution by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Keeping captive tigers in vast numbers in private hands seems wrong.

      I see nothing wrong with any number of tigers being in private hands. It's the captive/non-captive ratio that bothers me.

    9. Re:if evolution by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      You can argue that, but the rules of the game have changed. We humans are working on developmental time scales orders of magnitude above and beyond what animals evolve at. Telling tigers to evolve or perish is like yelling at a snail to get out of the way of your car. Doesn't give us the right to run over snails, either.

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  3. What the fuck by darkitecture · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your number one priority in a Tiger Park is... to maintain the tiger population. How the fuck do you let 24 tigers die in 36 months? Am I the only one that thinks that maybe after the first 12 months someone should have said, "wait a minute, we've got less tigers now than 12 months ago" and tried to figure out what the fuck was going wrong? How the fuck do you not notice anything is wrong in three years? Surely 24 tigers did not die in the past few months, right?

    Maybe I'm assuming too much; I was sick the day they taught tiger maintenance at tiger school.

    1. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I saw an article about this about a year ago on TV. The tigers are being illegally captured for their skins and all. This has been going on for years, but the Indian government has kept denying it was happening, and did nothing about it. Now we have the result: a tiger-free tiger park.

    2. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're tigers, not elephants. They don't spend much time visible around humans.

    3. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      1. Setup Tiger farm
      2. Economic crisis
      3. Sell to Chinese herbalist
      4. Profit.

    4. Re:What the fuck by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Poaching. Pure and simple. And these governments simply don't set their priorities on conserving endangered species. First they tend to enrich themselves, next they enrich their friends and associates, and if they EVER get done serving their own interests, the rest of what's left over goes to the people. They probably have no idea of what a budget committee is and no public involvement.

    5. Re:What the fuck by richardkelleher · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Too late, Cheney took care of that during is first week running the country from some bunker under the naval observatory.

    6. Re:What the fuck by RsG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Poaching. Pure and simple. And these governments simply don't set their priorities on conserving endangered species.

      In addition to this, maintaining any kind of boundary around a tiger preserve is going to be a costly, manpower intensive operation. Likely the park didn't get that kind of staff or budget, and left the gate open, so to speak.

      Tigers are large. They're territorial apex predators. Each adult male needs lots and lots of room to himself, which means a park of a couple dozen is going to cover a wide territory. Plus, I doubt the park was at capacity with 24, so it probably was set aside with more room than the bare minimum for its now departed population.

      As a result, the park's borders are going to be long. Unless they have scads of park rangers, or whatever they're called in this case, they can't police the entirety of it. A poacher could get in unopposed. And given the rarity of the cats, poaching them is probably lucrative enough that they can bribe the, at most, one or two officials who might see them to look the other way.

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    7. Re:What the fuck by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Poaching. Pure and simple.

      This is the part I never understand. What on earth are they poaching the tigers for? Tigers are actually a fairly common animal in captivity.

      The only explanation I can come up with is that there are people who will pay money to their own, or own the skin of, one of the last $ANIMAL simply because it is the last, and for no other reason. I think there was a Star Trek episode about that.

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    8. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is the part I never understand. What on earth are they poaching the tigers for?

      There is a multimillion dollar demand in Asian countries for, among other pieces of the tigers, the male tiger penis. It is seen in many Asian cultures as a sacred aphrodisiac. From personal experience with people who have actually contributed to the black market, the penis from the tiger bred in captivity is not as effective as one taken from the wild.

      Whether it is scientifically proven that it actually does anything at all is still uncertain. Personally I think it is a placebo, but to some cultures, a sacred placebo is preferable to the most effective medicine without religious/cultural connotations.

    9. Re:What the fuck by StokedForYou · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This is the part I never understand. What on earth are they poaching the tigers for?

      There is a multimillion dollar demand in Asian countries for, among other pieces of the tigers, the male tiger penis. It is seen in many Asian cultures as a sacred aphrodisiac. From personal experience with people who have actually contributed to the black market, the penis from the tiger bred in captivity is not as effective as one taken from the wild.
      Whether it is scientifically proven that it actually does anything at all is still uncertain. Personally I think it is a placebo, but to some cultures, a sacred placebo is preferable to the most effective medicine without religious/cultural connotations.

    10. Re:What the fuck by Greyfox · · Score: 1
      In a couple of minutes conflicting information on Wikipedia will show that the population of tigers in the tiger park has tripled in the last three months.

      Hey, it worked for the elephants!

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    11. Re:What the fuck by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is a multimillion dollar demand in Asian countries for, among other pieces of the tigers, the male tiger penis. It is seen in many Asian cultures as a sacred aphrodisiac.

      The thing about a lot of Chinese herbal remedies is that the ones have a big fuss made over them, were the ones recommended for the Emperor and the aristocracy.

      You know what's also supposed to be a good medicine for building yang in Chinese medicine? Walnuts. But that's clearly not good enough, not special and unique enough, for some royal bastard. You're an important guy, you have to go have some sentient being killed to prove it. And then because you are an important guy, everyone else wants to follow in your footsteps.

      (Of course, the same applies in our culture. Know what's a good treatment for heart disease? A diet based around whole plant foods, exercise, and stress reduction. But that's clearly not good enough, not special and unique enough, for some master-of-the-universe type. You're an important guy, you have to go treat your body like shit until you need the bypass surgery -- despite the fact that its benefits are questionable. But at least with bypass surgery, your death or your case of "pump head" only directly affects you, whereas using tiger penis to treat your impotence has a hell of an impact on the tiger.)

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    12. Re:What the fuck by StokedForYou · · Score: 1

      I for one was surprised that nobody had brought the issue up before I posted (yes I am the AC hidden above my prior post), the intolerance and ignorance of man seems to know no bounds. Perhaps we will grow out of it someday? Or maybe that's hoping for a bit much.

    13. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What on earth are they poaching the tigers for?

      Probably weirdo magic medicine and other stuff like this.

    14. Re:What the fuck by buttfscking · · Score: 1

      No, no! Step number three should be "???"

    15. Re:What the fuck by icebike · · Score: 1

      Those people who were supposed to notice the reduction in tigers were missing as well.

      Their boss went out to find them, but he did not come back either.

      The senior administrator, the only employee left suggested the tigers moved on due to dwindling local food supply.

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    16. Re:What the fuck by Geheimagent · · Score: 1

      Your number one priority in a Tiger Park is... to maintain the tiger population. How the fuck do you let 24 tigers die in 36 months? Am I the only one that thinks that maybe after the first 12 months someone should have said, "wait a minute, we've got less tigers now than 12 months ago" and tried to figure out what the fuck was going wrong? How the fuck do you not notice anything is wrong in three years? Surely 24 tigers did not die in the past few months, right?

      Go RTFA: "warning bells were sounded regularly for the last eight years", so they did notice, but couldn't come up with the reason for the decline.

    17. Re:What the fuck by linzeal · · Score: 1

      1.5 Genetically engineer fat impotent Asian men with 500 large Tiger penises all over their body.

    18. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never assume conspiracy where simple idiocy or incompetence will suffice.

    19. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if there are no longer tigers in india they have less problems with overpopulation in the future.

    20. Re:What the fuck by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      What is even worse is the argument that 3 other reserves are doing fine... It takes 3 years of poor management to have tigers disappear in a reserve, but you can then have good management during 100 years, they won't spontaneously reappear. Even if you bring new specimens, some biological variation has irremediably been lost.

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    21. Re:What the fuck by feepness · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First they tend to enrich themselves, next they enrich their friends and associates, and if they EVER get done serving their own interests, the rest of what's left over goes to the people.

      Well, at least we've exported American Democracy to one place in the world!

    22. Re:What the fuck by martas · · Score: 1

      well, these things happen... especially when you use the money for maintaining the park to buy your wife diamond earrings.

    23. Re:What the fuck by meerling · · Score: 1

      err... maintain the tiger population?
      We thought it was a themed hunting park.

      For a measly $10,000 you too can try to bag your own trophy tiger in a natural habitat...
      We still have spots left in our other 3 sites, but they're going fast, so contact your Extinction Hunting Tours Representative now before there all gone, forever...

    24. Re:What the fuck by codeButcher · · Score: 1

      Well, since tigers are going extinct, it should be obvious that they don't have much use of said body part. Why not have someone else have it who puts more value on it?

      I'm just kidding, right. But it's still ironic. Maybe someone should tell them about rabbits.

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    25. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i find your outrage more surprising than the fact that 24 of the most endangered animals didnt survive..

      how big is the park? maybe its 1 tiger per 100,000 hectares - for all you know..

      also maybe they dont have the funds for lots of rangers, or poorly paid rangers open to corruption...

      maybe there was a disease that they couldnt afford to research and treat in time

    26. Re:What the fuck by ciderVisor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Q1. Why do elephants paint their 'nads red ?
      A1. So they can hide in cherry trees.

      Q2. What's the loadest sound in the jungle ?
      A2. A giraffe eating cherries.

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    27. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh... You think that was specific to American Democracy?

      It's been SOP with Mankind since we were chipping rocks to put on the ends of sticks. :D

    28. Re:What the fuck by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Hey, the Bush administration was over two years ago. Now it's Obama's problem ...

      Oh, wait, you were talking about India. Sorry, got a bit confused there for a second.

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    29. Re:What the fuck by mqduck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In addition to this, maintaining any kind of boundary around a tiger preserve is going to be a costly, manpower intensive operation.

      And if there's one this India lacks, it's manpower.

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    30. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Sacred Tiger Penis" (WARNING: may contain nuts.)

    31. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I've actually had some very good experiences with human horn.

    32. Re:What the fuck by kprsa · · Score: 1

      There is a multimillion dollar demand in Asian countries for, among other pieces of the tigers, the male tiger penis. It is seen in many Asian cultures as a sacred aphrodisiac.

      As opposed to the female tiger penis, seen in many other cultures as the elixir of life? ;)

    33. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Poaching. Pure and simple.

      This is the part I never understand. What on earth are they poaching the tigers for?

      For quack herbal medicine in places like China, and elsewhere.

    34. Re:What the fuck by Cheviot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ah. So idiots buy the dead tiger parts. That explains it.

    35. Re:What the fuck by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And this is just another example of why our 21st century society needs to let all of these moronic superstitions go. There are real world consequences -- just like the religious nutbars in America who refuse to do anything about global warming because they think that jeebus is coming back within their lifetimes. Its time to let it go, we all have imaginary friends when we are children but it is not healthy to hold on to them through adulthood!

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    36. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "male tiger penis"
      You mean as opposed to the female tiger penis?

    37. Re:What the fuck by haifastudent · · Score: 1

      There is a multimillion dollar demand in Asian countries for, among other pieces of the tigers, the male tiger penis.

      As opposed to the female tiger penis? You have a redundant word in there, which is not needed.

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    38. Re:What the fuck by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      Which demonstrates a serious lack of imagination on their part. Tigers die in the wild for a number of reasons and the two major ones are habitat destruction and poaching. It's pretty clear to me that they didn't see what they didn't want to see - so much easier to look the other way if you're getting kickbacks.

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    39. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about killing asians and eating their penises? You could market it as the other dark meat, guaranteed to save tigers.

    40. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poaching. Pure and simple. And these governments simply don't set their priorities on conserving endangered species. First they tend to enrich themselves, next they enrich their friends and associates, and if they EVER get done serving their own interests, the rest of what's left over goes to the people. They probably have no idea of what a budget committee is and no public involvement.

      These governments? It seems like my government does most of these things as well. And I am cowardly posting this from the USA...

    41. Re:What the fuck by RsG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right, but you don't want just any manpower here. I suspect being a park ranger in a tiger preserve is one of those jobs that requires more than just a week of on the job training to do. Particularly since it offers several ways to fuck up and die if you aren't careful and knowledgeable about the risks. Never mind that you have to pay the rangers enough that the poachers can't bribe them easily, so it's not a situation where you can throw legions of underpaid unskilled workers at the problem and expect it to go away.

      And before somebody busts out the "it's the third world, silly" argument, even in the furthest parts of rural India, a government operation like this is going to be bound by a certain level of CYA oversight. If the local management decides to hire any old idiot to do a dangerous job, and said idiot gets mauled, there will be consequences coming down from higher up for the negligent fool who put him in that position in the first place. Conversely, the more lawless the region, the more likely the negligent fool will be getting a visit from the many irate relatives of the deceased.

      So no, the fact that India has a lot of people does not help this situation in the slightest, and if anything makes the problem much worse - try to imagine the difficulty of establishing and maintaining a large nature preserve in a country of 1+ billion spread over an area smaller than the US.

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    42. Re:What the fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You hit the nail on the head. Shouldn't we more angry with the Chinese and educate them that tiger dick is a folklore? Maybe if the ignorant Chinese knew better, they're wouldn't be a market for poaching tigers. You cant blame the poachers really.

    43. Re:What the fuck by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      I suspect being a park ranger in a tiger preserve is one of those jobs that requires more than just a week of on the job training to do.

      Particularly since it offers several ways to fuck up and die if you aren't careful and knowledgeable about the risks.

      I would be surprised of their current employees got much more than few weeks of apprenticeship.

      Never mind that you have to pay the rangers enough that the poachers can't bribe them easily, so it's not a situation where you can throw legions of underpaid unskilled workers at the problem and expect it to go away.

      Offer midsized rewards for blowing the whistle on other rangers that take bribes. Now the poachers have to bribe virtually every ranger they may encounter. Could get expensive if you have a legion of rangers.

    44. Re:What the fuck by von_rick · · Score: 1

      Tigers need to snack on other animals in order to survive. So its not just the tiger population that we need to be worried about. Its quite likely that the animals that tigers had for breakfast are disappearing as well.

      And of course there's poaching.

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    45. Re:What the fuck by sjames · · Score: 1

      The key is to offer hunters a much rarer prize. Declare poachers fair game. Once shot, having them stuffed and mounted is also legal (see a ranger to have your prey tagged as fair killed). The parks might be strapped for resources, but there's probably a few rich hunters willing to spend scads on the chance to one up everyone at the club once and for all.

    46. Re:What the fuck by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      From personal experience with people who have actually contributed to the black market, the penis from the tiger bred in captivity is not as effective as one taken from the wild.

      From personal experience, since 0>0 is false, I still do not see the logic. You could give these guys shavings from a slashdotters toenails and they'd never be able to tell the difference.

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    47. Re:What the fuck by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess I lumped depletion of prey in with 'habitat destruction' but you make a good point to highlight that. We can save all the forest and tigers we like, but it does them no good if there are no deer left.

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  4. Electronic tracking? by lyinhart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They weren't tracking these things electronically? The technology to track animals has existed for years and surely they would have access to electronic tags and GPS tracking devices.

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    1. Re:Electronic tracking? by erroneus · · Score: 3, Funny

      They haven't deployed their multi-billion ID cards to the tigers yet....

    2. Re:Electronic tracking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you've never worked on a wildlife preserve in a country like this, I guess it's hard to understand how understaffed and underfunded they are. I worked on a rhino preserve and these people were happy we brought boots, shovels and hoses for them to use. That's how little they had and how little funding they got. A man actually almost broke down into tears over a waterhose...imagine what they'd do with GPS.

      Just because technology exists does not mean it is available.

    3. Re:Electronic tracking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm thinking of applying for some funding and turning my back garden into a tiger sanctuary. In a few years time, when the money runs out, I'll express regret that all the tigers seem to have died.

      Are you quite sure the tigers ever existed?

    4. Re:Electronic tracking? by khallow · · Score: 1

      They weren't tracking these things electronically? The technology to track animals has existed for years and surely they would have access to electronic tags and GPS tracking devices.

      That would make it easier for the poachers to find the tigers. Not sure how it'd help the rangers though.

  5. Coincidentally... by Hansele · · Score: 5, Funny

    The asian manager of the reserve experienced massive penile growth over the past three years, and when asked about the secret of his "LONGevity", he credited "eating tiger pen^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hchinese herbs".

  6. Rock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, I guess this rock that's supposed to keep tigers away really does work. Suck it!

  7. Tony the Tiger says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They're....GOOOONNNNE!!

    (No, really, this is awful news)

  8. Tiger park profit by SanguineV · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just set up a tiger park in my office - where do I apply for funding to look after the tigers?

    1. Re:Tiger park profit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Actually, one of the best ways of preserving a species is making it profitable.
      http://books.google.com/books?id=zhXIXRiWPVYC

    2. Re:Tiger park profit by RsG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In this particular case, "profit" is exactly what's driving them to extinction. Idiots demand bits of the tiger anatomy for "natural medicine" (read: impotency cures). Poachers supply them with their magical erection-granting kibbles & bits, slowly killing off the last of the species in the process, and making a tidy profit from their crimes.

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    3. Re:Tiger park profit by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The free market in action! The invisible hand!

    4. Re:Tiger park profit by martas · · Score: 1

      in india, tiger funds YOU!

    5. Re:Tiger park profit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no free market if they are making profit from crimes. Best way to save them is to eat them. If the tigers were private property (yummy private property, that is), the owners will have an incentive to protect the tigers so they don't run out of them.

      http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=can-the-free-market-save-tigers-fro-2009-05-12

  9. Maybe this explains why... by ls671 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I haven't seen Tony the Tiger ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_the_Tiger ) for a while on TV.

    Maybe he is from that Park and he has just vanished... ;-(

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    1. Re:Maybe this explains why... by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      RIP Thurl Ravenscroft

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  10. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Humans are destroying everything natural in this world. I just hope we destory things faster so that the Earth can wipe us out and then start over with some newer species that will hopefully not rip the planet apart the way we do. The way we handle everything natural (trees, animals, air, water, soil), we deserve to be added to the list of species that have gone extinct.

    What's really amusing is watching people try to rationalize why they deserve to exist. Right, because the species that chooses to force animals to mate in cages in order to be mass-slaughtered for food and clothing, the species that tears down forests to clear space for agrigulture and cities, the species whose members will literally do anything to "get ahead" of their neighbour in terms of money and power, the species who does nothing more than crave constant entertainment and shoveling their faces with as much food as they can get their fat hands on... yes, surely this is the species that deserves to dominate the planet.

    Of course, the most disgusting and saddening thing is that almost all people don't see anything wrong with us as a species. That somehow since we're just flesh and blood, everything we do is "natural". Yeah ok. Go back to drinking your Coke or Pepsi. It has absolutely no benefit to your body. But do it anyway, because it tastes good. That's all that matters.

    1. Re:Duh by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      This is without question the most insightful thing I have read on /. all week.

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    2. Re:Duh by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Go back to throwing paint on socialites.

    3. Re:Duh by JosKarith · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry - I've got mod points but have posted on this so can't Underrate your Troll mod. Can someone with mod points please mod parent up.

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    4. Re:Duh by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, same here butI already posted too.

      I would have given parent +1 Insightful. I do not have to fully agree with him. Nevertheless, intelligent beings that refuse to question their way of living by looking at it from a different angle are not so bright in my humble opinion.

      The troll mod seems to make Slashdot audience looks like narrow-minded.

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    5. Re:Duh by kevinNCSU · · Score: 1

      .... the species whose members will literally do anything to "get ahead" of their neighbour in terms of money and power, the species who does nothing more than crave constant entertainment and shoveling their faces with as much food as they can get their fat hands on... yes, surely this is the species that deserves to dominate the planet.

      As opposed to the noble male Tiger, renowned for eating just enough to stave off hunger after politely waiting for an elderly member of another species to die, and then distributes the left overs to other Male Tigers so that they will thrive as a happy community of goodwill and Tiger Friendship rather than "getting ahead".

    6. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      okay. go ahead. kill yourself, you dont deserve to live.

    7. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well that is rather hypocritical.

      Obviously you are not living entirely "naturally" either, or else you'd be naked in the bush and not posting on slashdot.

      I just hope we destory things faster so that the Earth can wipe us out

      Oh, so in that case I suppose you are doing your part to consume and destroy everything you can?

      What's really amusing is watching people try to rationalize why they deserve to exist.

      So why do you continue to exist and waste precious resources?

    8. Re:Duh by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and Rome was built in a day.

      What, you want the tribe-mentality ape descendants to live in harmony with nature? After millions of years of being hunted down and killed (or left to die in horrible pain) by creatures just like the ones you want to "preserve"?

      Get a grip, dude, we're animals. And we're doing the best we can. We're barely a few thousand years past the point where being the strongest - not the nicest or the smartest - was the definition of evolutionarily fit.

      If we die out, do you think the next species is going to be any better? Here's a hint - if we go down, there's going to be *more* scarcity for whoever inherits the earth. We've used up a ton of the low-hanging fruit like petroleum and surface minerals. More scarcity means more competition for a limited amount of resources, which generally means more pain.

      Yes, we suck. Yes, as a species we seem to have no long-term awareness. But we're the best the earth has to offer at the moment, and I honestly believe we're getting better. The only question is whether we'll be able to become truly self-sustaining (needing little more than the sun and raw materials) before our resources run out. If we can manage that, I think we can turn this thing around.

  11. roscoes chicken and waffles opened up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    next town over, maybe the tigers RELOCATED?

  12. Thank God. by HideyoshiJP · · Score: 1

    I'm so glad they got rid of the all the tiger that fouled up the place. It really brought down the whole place.

  13. sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Magnificent animals.

    Meanwhile the human population of India goes exponential.

  14. Bribes. by mail2345 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The manager lets the poacher hunt the tigers for their own reasons, and gets a chunk of the profit. Everyone is happy except the conservationists and the tigers.

    1. Re:Bribes. by freedom_india · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sadly that could be true.
      Unlike cops in countries like UK and USA, Indian cops don't get paid that much. Neither do they have great insurance coverages: a measly $2,500 is paid to their family if they are killed. Add to that weapons that are antiquated even by 1940s standards. So, you have deadly combination of corruption.
      Why would any fool throw away his life for a miserable tiger? So that his family suffers?
      No. It would be far better to make sure he's alive & safe & rich. So a tiger gets killed: so what?

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    2. Re:Bribes. by ls671 · · Score: 1

      very possible indeed.

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    3. Re:Bribes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If slavery is illegal you don't have a slave trade. Don't blame the poachers, blame the consumers.

    4. Re:Bribes. by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Slavery WAS illegal in Britain for a long time since 1800s.
      That didn't prevent slave ships sailing from Africa to USA (before civil war).
      If poaching were effectively prevented, then consumers would shift to other tastes.

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  15. What a backwards nation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The manager lets the poacher hunt the tigers for their own reasons, and gets a chunk of the profit. Everyone is happy except the conservationists and the tigers.

    fuck.

  16. So tiger-free is good now? by dogmatixpsych · · Score: 1

    Reading the headline you'd think that was a good thing. Yay! Our park is now free from those nasty tigers!

    Hopefully the tigers just went elsewhere (other than to the great big tiger preserve in the sky). No, I did not read the article. :)

  17. The Tiger by mindbrane · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Tiger! Tiger! burning bright In the forests of the night, What immortal hand or eye Could frame thy fearful symmetry? In what distant deeps or skies Burnt the fire of thine eyes? On what wings dare he aspire? What the hand dare seize the fire? And what shoulder, and what art, Could twist the sinews of thy heart? And when thy heart began to beat, What dread hand? and what dread feet? What the hammer? what the chain? In what furnace was thy brain? What the anvil? what dread grasp Dare its deadly terrors clasp? When the stars threw down their spears, And watered heaven with their tears, Did he smile his work to see? Did he who made the Lamb make thee? Tiger! Tiger! burning bright In the forests of the night, What immortal hand or eye Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?

    William Blake

    Given that I'm a strong environmentalist my bias is unabashedly strong, but as a confirmed atheist even I can say that if we loose this species by way of our ignorance and greed we may have grounds for establishing original sin in our kind.

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    1. Re:The Tiger by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Funny

      Given that I'm a strong environmentalist my bias is unabashedly strong, but as a confirmed atheist even I can say that if we loose this species by way of our ignorance and greed we may have grounds for establishing original sin in our kind.

      Depending where you loose it, it is probably a crime as well.

    2. Re:The Tiger by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Sokay we can just clone them from DNA samples in a few decades. Then our great-great-grandchildren will know the joys of a good tiger steak!

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    3. Re:The Tiger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let ole planet Earth roll on her belly a few hundred million more times and she'll come up with a replacement.

    4. Re:The Tiger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let ole planet Earth roll on her belly a few hundred million more times and she'll come up with a replacement.

      She already did: Us. We are the undisputed apex predator.

  18. next stop, tiger free world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why go to tiger free park when you can go to tiger free world.

  19. rock by arazor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Turns out Lisa's rock really did work.

  20. Cheese shop by quenda · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not much of a cheese shop, is it?

    1. Re:Cheese shop by gregg · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sure it is very clean, being uncontaminated by tigers and all.

  21. ridiculous by nixish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    poaching is rampant there and i would not be surprised if some of the park officials are in on it. However, that's not the real cause. The real cause would be its demand in primarily oriental countries like China, Vietnam etc where they use tiger meat and bones (I think every part of their body) for medicinal/spiritual purposes. I think the open border into India's Himalayan neighbor Nepal has also affected Nepal's own tiger and rhino population. Hope the NGO's and the government clamps down these poachers. I am not sure what the remedy to the demand from the Oriental countries is besides Education and stricter rules about imports of the remains of these Endangered species.

    1. Re:ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The only remedy has got to be education at every level to convince people that a) tiger penises don't make you more virile and b) if people keep demanding tiger penises, there won't be any left for those who need them most (i.e., the lady tigers).

      Perhaps films with plotlines involving men becoming permanently infertile and impotent due to rhino horn and tiger genitals.

      Maybe someone can invent 'synthetic tiger-willy', rumoured to be 100 times more potent than real tiger-willy.

      Subtle media association of 'tiger' with 'incredibly, flamboyantly, irredeemably gay'. And 'rhino horn' with 'likes to suck off men'.

      Maybe even some boring, old-fashioned, public information films about the plight of the tiger, unscrupulous poachers and the scam charlatans selling the 'remedies'â"aimed at the end market, not the country of origin.

  22. Wow by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 1

    I guess I was lucky. I was able to see one at the Corbett reserve in Ramnagar last year (there aren't too many and they're very people-shy- I was there three days, went all over the park and only saw one). Sounds like with the typical poor governance/law enforcement and general bad management in India the poachers are having a field day. Who knows how many more years anybody will be able to find a tiger in a tiger park in India?

  23. Damn Poachers by seekret · · Score: 1

    They should just start shooting poachers on site and selling their body parts to the Chinese. Everyone wins. The article did say it's possible the tigers migrated to another park, but if they weren't keeping track of them I guess it's going to be hard to verify.

  24. cost benefit analysis by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The reason the poachers are bold is because nobody has done the math. 6 billion monkeys on the planet = common. ~3k tigers left on the planet = rare. Perhaps they should start demonstrating that they value tigers more than monkeys.

    Start guarding the park. anyone found inside for any reason without evidence of poaching will be killed on sight. People found poaching will be horribly public tortured for a month and then executed. Put severed heads on stakes around the borders of the park. Anyone found with tiger parts in the country will be immediately executed. Quite simply, they need to make entering the park seem like a automatic death sentence. Until they show a will to go farther than the poachers, they will lose and tigers will die.

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    1. Re:cost benefit analysis by feepness · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they should start demonstrating that they value tigers more than monkeys.

      Perhaps you should. Do you do anything besides bare necessities and supporting the tiger population? Do you do anything at all to support the tiger population?

    2. Re:cost benefit analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Start guarding the park. anyone found inside for any reason without evidence of poaching will be killed on sight.

      As a positive side effect evolutionary pressure will get us rid of tourists with bad orientation and inability to read maps.

    3. Re:cost benefit analysis by JosKarith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No. What they should do is take all their weapons off them, then let them into the tiger park. Anyone who manages to kill and drag back a tiger bare-handed damn well deserves it, everyone else can be a play toy for teh big kitties...

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    4. Re:cost benefit analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      In Indian forests area the Government writ doesn't run.. It is long time that the forests area are infested with red army(Maoist cadres) as well as Pak based terrorist outfit...Forest Officer never venture out of his hideout. Also the welfare measures for the tribal in the area are pocketed by politicians..Tigers are killed for medicine values in China and East Asia, sold there for purchasing modern weapons for their arm struggle.. India's obesession with pak based terrorists ignore the threat posed by the maoist in India..

    5. Re:cost benefit analysis by haifastudent · · Score: 1

      Start guarding the park. anyone found inside for any reason without evidence of poaching will be killed on sight. People found poaching will be horribly public tortured for a month and then executed. Put severed heads on stakes around the borders of the park. Anyone found with tiger parts in the country will be immediately executed. Quite simply, they need to make entering the park seem like a automatic death sentence. Until they show a will to go farther than the poachers, they will lose and tigers will die.

      I believe that South Africa does this. I had the pleasure of living with a South African who's day job in SA was hunting. He was a poacher hunter. Not a government employee, but paid by the government (something like a contractor). I was sceptical at first, but his stories were convincing.

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    6. Re:cost benefit analysis by drsquare · · Score: 1

      So, there will then be two effects:

      1. The price of tigers goes through the roof.
      2. Poachers come in groups of several dozen with machine guns and grenade launchers in case anyone catches them.

    7. Re:cost benefit analysis by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1
      Hence we got the whole 'tiger penis makes you verile' myth. Once upon a time, if you couldn't attract that girl you were hot for, the wise old man at the herbalist would say "My son, you must slay a tiger and consume soup made of its gonads and so you will win the heart of your lady." So he goes out and if through cunning or strength, kills the tiger, he makes the soup and gives her the pelt as a gift - she gets all hot for him because he just showed he could kill a tiger single-handed. If he was weak and dumb, the tiger got a tasty snack.

      Fast forward 1000 years. Now he goes out with an automatic weapon and fills the feline with lead. Doesn't matter if he's a retarded cripple, it's no fair fight. Of course, there are lots of impotent dipshits with firearms these days... it's hardly surprising we're running out of tigers.

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    8. Re:cost benefit analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no basis for the cost benefit analysis you've given your title. In fact, I don't think you realize what that means.

      "The reason the poachers are bold is because nobody has done the math. 6 billion monkeys on the planet = common"

      You only need 1 monkey to come up with a good idea. Unfortunately for you, you are not that monkey.

      "Start guarding the park. anyone found inside for any reason without evidence of poaching will be killed on sight."

      This is /., where supposedly good ideas will save the world and improve things. Band people together to see and fulfill a better world. Your post? Error, eliminate.

      Your post is the exact reason why the tigers are dying, because it lacks any sort of workable reason whatsoever. You are an idiot and part of the problem. You're a freaking blind environmentalist tyrant and puritan that often comes to the head of group with his ridiculous ideas, and then doesn't understand why he/she loses.

      Your way will accelerate the decimation of the tiger population. Thank you for your piss poor contribution.

      (1) Anyone who puts a potentially innocent or actually innocent person in the wrong circumstance as second to our species and sends them to death will automatically lose any PR or battle of wills to save tigers. If you disagree with this, you are an extremist who has absolutely no relevance to the discussion whatsoever. 6 billion monkeys you say, well, the 5 billion are about to kick the ass of the 1b with the stupid ideas.

      (2) If you kill people who are in a reserve, there is more risk to the guards as well as the rare animal that is being protected. iow, people will absolutely remove the reason the park exists in the first place--not because they hate tigers, but because they hate the political backing and/or government tyranny that enforces such abhorrent laws. People will track guards and feed info back to poachers, or go after the guards themselves. Why? Because you have turned the tiger PARK into a war park if you insist on killing humans found there.

      (3) A combination of 1 and 2--by losing the will of people to save tigers, you will accelerate movement against any species that ought to be protected as that species will become the point of hatred, or seen as an instrument for government brutality. By your sick efforts, you will have created a new class of people to hunt and kill tigers to eliminate the parks themselves.

      (4) By a "no people zone" you will have enforced a "poaching zone" because there will be no double-checking or reinforcing of what guards may or may not be there. There will be no guard oversight, no check of corruption, etc. You want MORE people there, not less. You can hundreds of guards, if you pay off 1, you will have a zone for snares and rifles to wipe out whatever tiger wanders through.

      This isn't limited to tigers. It's been shown with wolves, mountain lions, lions, coyotes, and bears--if one kills someone, people will go after the animal and perhaps the species to eliminate the threat. It doesn't even have to be people; in Africa, lions who kill cattle are often then poisoned. See fox population versus chicken houses.

      You want to help? (1) Show the pseudo-medicinal demand of tiger parts isn't true, or if it is, find the active ingredient and pharm it, or.... (2) ...if a placebo, pay off poachers and bleed the market to shit with fakes or diluted product. Take a page out of Chinese grey market and fakes. (3) Turn the parks into a place for people to visit. More people, more eyes, more reason for tigers to be kept alive, more oversight. Tourism is a money-maker and good conservation. They did this with gorillas I believe, and it turned out rather well, which ended up increasing conservation efforts and resources.

      Pick up Discover or Scientific American sometime and read it to educate yourself. You want to run a "Save the tigers" campaign like the anti-drug war in the US; it's not to save the tigers, it's to elevate yourself because of your perposterous ideas that other like minded extremist idiots give validation too.

  25. Yeah, sure... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They should have evolved a bulletproof skin, a gun on their forehead and a lawyer on their back.
    One to protect them from direct attack by humans, one to protect their home with force and the third to do the same - only in court.

    And even that probably wouldn't do them much good considering that "civilized" humans had up until recently found "local" humans to be less than those tigers and little more than apes.
    When I say "civilized" and "local" I mean white and brown.

    Heck! White humans have nearly killed off an entire continent's population of red humans - who had guns and horses and whatnot...
    And oversized cats should "evolve".
    Yeah, sure...

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    1. Re:Yeah, sure... by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      They should have evolved a bulletproof skin, a gun on their forehead and a lawyer on their back.

      ITYM "a frickin' laser beam attached to their forehead".

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    2. Re:Yeah, sure... by markringen · · Score: 1

      other animals have become resistant to humans, they haven't. thus evolution didn't have it in for them. my motto against protectionists: evolution is a bitch! if you don't like how the cards are dealt you could as well give up.

    3. Re:Yeah, sure... by afidel · · Score: 1

      The most likely cause of their demise is canine distemper from human introduced dog populations. I know that distemper was what wiped out a large percentage of the population of some of the African lion populations in preserves that have human developments around their edge and that lions and tigers can reproduce ergo it's a likely cause of the dieoff.

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    4. Re:Yeah, sure... by denzacar · · Score: 1

      IANAT (I am not a tigerologist), so there might be some truth to that, but main reason is usually stated as human invasion of their territory.
      As someone else has put it already - they require quite a bit of their own private space.

      And the lack of resistance to bullets.

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  26. What did the tigers eat ? by noddyxoi · · Score: 1

    Could they have died from starvation ? a tiger must eat alot of freshly hunted food. It is not only the tigers that must be preserved, it's the whole food chain bellow the tiger !

    1. Re:What did the tigers eat ? by arndawg · · Score: 1

      Cheezburgers.. duh.

  27. The Market will decide! by fantomas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obvious isn't it? "The Market will decide". This famous beastie called the market will decide what survives and what doesn't... and in India where there's a fair few people living on a dollar a day (say a hundred million or so people) then the idea of making a couple of thousand dollars for a days work hunting down and killing (poaching) a tiger seems quite attractive. What would you do for 6 years your current salary as a day's work?

    India - developing country - limited resources - can't fund its nature reserves or equip its park rangers like a western country might, versus a lot of folk who see an opportunity to make several years wages in a day.

    The west has to take a lot of the blame for reducing the numbers down to where they are right now, hunting tigers in India was big sport at the turn of the last century.

  28. Free as in beer by ciderVisor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is this one of the 4 Freedoms I keep hearing about ?

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  29. Well thats a relief.. by slashmojo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tigers are clearly a danger to the parks visitors so the new visitor safety campaign appears to be a great success and tourists can now roam freely around the tiger park without worrying that they or their children might become a tiger snack.

  30. In what sense is it a tiger park, without tigers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hyde Park in central London is as much a tiger park as the one in India. No doubt my back garden could be a hippopotamus reserve too.

    This makes India the laughing stock of the world. It is difficult to see how they could be more inept.

    Still, they don't care. More space to build the high rises and shopping malls now.

  31. I am not offering a defense by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    of this reserves managers, however I think India has a whole lot more to worry about than tigers. Yeah, while I sit in my comfy chair in an air conditioned building I can see where other people get off beating on countries for not doing what we want.

    The simple matter is, India at least is trying to protect the tigers. They also are trying to manage a large population of people who essentially live like they have for thousands of years and bring them into what many of us would still not consider acceptable living let alone modern.

    So yeah, we lose a few tigers. If the tigers are so important to the rest of the world then I suggest the rest of the world establish sanctuaries in their own territories and save them.

    I am more concerned with India figuring out how to live peacefully with Pakistan and keeping religious strife between Hindu's and Muslims in check. While it is nice to look at tigers and appreciate nature's beauty the number of people who died to violence in the time it took me to write this far exceeds any tiger loss.

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    1. Re:I am not offering a defense by yogix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is no reason why the Government can't do both (maintain communal harmony and continue conservation efforts). You argument is along the lines of saying that India should not have a space program when it still can't feed its citizens. Yes, resources are required for each of these efforts - but the problem here is not lack of resources, it's the proper utilisation of the same.

  32. Poaching and the rise of china too. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Expect heavy pressure on all products derived from mega fauna due to the new found wealth and affordability of china. Rhino horns, elephant ivory, bengal tiger skin, claws and other body parts...

    The salary and benefits of a typical forest ranger in India is about 250$ a month, while his nephew in the city with barely passable English makes some 700$ a month in IT, phone bank, help desk jobs and more if technically qualified. Any wonder the warden turns a blind eye to poaching and accepts bribes?

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    1. Re:Poaching and the rise of china too. by JSBiff · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If these animals are so economically valuable, why aren't we 'farming' them? I mean, instead of killing of the last 24 in the park, it seems like you should get much larger land, and raise the tigers, so you have several hundred of them, and you can fund the preservation of the tigers/elephants/whatever by selling off the body parts of a few per year.

      It's like this - chickens, cattle and pigs are at very little risk of going extinct, *because* of their economic value. Why don't we apply the same principle to these endagered species to make them *not* endangered anymore? If some Chinese Billionaire wants to pay the equivalent of $1 Million USD to have a Bengal tiger rug, then shouldn't we be exploiting that by selling off the coat of one tiger and using the million bucks to fund raising more tigers?

      It seems to me that *carefully managed*, very limited, legitimate, legal sale of such animal products can ensure the survival of those species, but by taking a stance of trying to completely outlaw all traffic in those products, we actually put those animals at *greater* risk, because farmers/ranchers do a much better job of managing their 'herds' than poachers do.

      No farmer is going to kill off so much of his livestock that he doesn't have enough left for successful breeding, but poachers just kill whatever they can and take it.

    2. Re:Poaching and the rise of china too. by edebiyat · · Score: 1
  33. You can joke all you want by pinkushun · · Score: 4, Informative

    But I see a world that's getting more screwed by humanity every day; we're all guilty.

    1. Re:You can joke all you want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I see a world that's getting more screwed by humanity every day; we're all guilty.

      I'm a slashdotter, I claim innocence in anything involving being on the screwing end.

  34. Aww come on, by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1, Funny

    I can't believe people still fall for this hoax... There is no such thing as tigers!

  35. Naah... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    There were no lasers prior to 1960s. Way to late for them to start evolving one.

    On the other hand... HAD they evolved 'frickin' lasers on their heads human armed conflicts would have been far more interesting.
    If we could pry some of those lasers of off their heads and used them ourselves. And if all those lawyers on their backs would let us.

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    1. Re:Naah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One!

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  36. O RLY by rlp · · Score: 1

    Three of state's reserve forests - Kanha, Bandhavgarh and Pench - have been adjudged among the best managed tiger reserves in the country."

    Have you counted the tigers there recently?

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  37. Which animal would that be... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    ...that can make a stand to a post-gunpowder human?

    And unicorns and aliens don't count.

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    1. Re:Which animal would that be... by afidel · · Score: 1

      Dogs, cats, pigs, water foul, cows, etc. There are plenty of animals that are much more plentiful now then they were before they became entwined with humans.

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    2. Re:Which animal would that be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean fowl.

    3. Re:Which animal would that be... by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Besides dogs and cats (unless we are counting those in Korea and Vietnam) those are all domestic animals that we are keeping in cages of various sizes to fatten them up.
      So we could eat them.

      That is not evolution. That is domestication. Done by us. Humans.

      Tigers are at least keeping some of their dignity cause you have to actually shoot the beast with a gun.
      You can't just walk up to it and hit it between the eyes with a hammer.
      Also, had you said chickens, I might have to argue how we have actually created the modern chicken and how we keep actively modifying it to produce more meat.
      But waterfowl? Come on...

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    4. Re:Which animal would that be... by markringen · · Score: 1

      lions/sharks/elephants/spiders/snakes/coconuts they can all defend themselves against humans. yes i said coconuts :) coconuts kill more humans than any single animal does, apart from humans.

    5. Re:Which animal would that be... by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Aside from lions, spiders and coconuts, all of those are on the endangered species list. Lion is on a vulnerable species list.

      Spiders are small enough for us not to give a damn about them, and they hatch from eggs that we don't eat, so like flies, ants or cockroaches we let them live as long as they don't step into our path.
      Should they become a significant enough menace... I can very well see them going the way of the tribble.

      And we grow coconuts so we could eat them. So much for them standing up to us.

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    6. Re:Which animal would that be... by JTsyo · · Score: 1

      Survival of the tastiest.

    7. Re:Which animal would that be... by greensnake · · Score: 1

      Tigers are at least keeping some of their dignity cause you have to actually shoot the beast with a gun.

      I don't much about tigers, but I do know one thing - no tiger in the history of time has ever given a shit about 'dignity'. That's all you.

  38. You go first by greyhueofdoubt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You go first. Seriously. Go kill yourself and reduce the burden on the planet. Put your money where your mouth is. If you have kids, kill them too. And everyone you love. No? You don't want to? Then go fuck yourself. I'm sick of people like you who project their own feelings of shame and inadequacy on the entire population.

    Have a great day,
    -b

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    1. Re:You go first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      While I don't necessarily agree with his entire spiel, you missed the point entirely.

      Sure he's disappointed with us as a species, but he's not necessarily saying we should all kill ourselves. But as a poster just a little above mentioned:

      "Nevertheless, intelligent beings that refuse to question their way of living by looking at it from a different angle are not so bright in my humble opinion"

      He's questioning our constant overbearing self-destructive behaviour and the fact that we try to justify this behaviour with a "we're an intelligent species so we're doing what is natural" line, when it is very apparent that many of us are not.

  39. I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Now eventually you might have tigers on your, on your tiger tour, right?"

    RIP, Jeff Goldblum.

    1. Re:I saw this movie by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      RIP, Jeff Goldblum.

      Uuuuuuuh, he's not dead.

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  40. Poor little cute things... by greyhueofdoubt · · Score: 1

    What's so special about tigers that makes them more important than all the other species that we've hunted to extinction?

    -b

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  41. If it Pays, then it Stays by Syncerus · · Score: 1

    In the third-world wildlife either pays for itself or it vanishes, plain and simple. With a desperate population on the verge of starvation, any resource not viewed as life-improving will quickly vanish. That's why tourism and well-regulated sport hunting are so important to the management of wildlife in the third world. It's also why game ranches for commercial purposes are a necessary tool for the successful restoration of many endangered species. John Stossel's video article below is very illuminating, and offers a new way of viewing the issue.

    http://jezebel.com/5249594/we-can-save-endangered-species-byeating-them

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    1. Re:If it Pays, then it Stays by Nursie · · Score: 1

      Right, so to save tigers we have to breed them to be shot at by rich, fat assholes.

      Fuck that.

  42. Who cares by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

    In a world where people thing eating body parts of animals brings good luck and potentcy, wage war, give Brittney Spears a Grammy, do we seriously consider preserving Tiger populations?

    I think we expect too much of ourselves when stopping and taking a good hard look at the majority of our priorities are.

    I don't think we are getting smarter collectively anymore, if anything we've turned on the stupid and are drinking deep from the spiggot.

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  43. I Concurr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree.. if they weren't busy being lazy and on the dole, maybe they would have evolved already. Hell.. maybe they transcended mortal existence! Maybe they are actually like Dolphins and escaped earth due to our imminent demise?

  44. Bengali's can visit Cincinnati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Bengali's tiger population disappears, they can visit the Cincinnati Zoo to see Bengal tigers.

    "Who Dey!"

  45. people suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    right no one will probably see this post but what ever. This is extremly fucked up. 24 tigers dissapear in 3 years and the dude is optimistic about the news?? WTF?? ITS A TIGER SANCTUARY!!! They (the tigers) have been poached. God damned lazy assed uncaring assholes.

  46. With apologies to Douglas Adams by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

    "Ford," he said, "how many tigers are there?"
    "None," said Ford.
    Zaphod gibbered.
    "Did you count them?" he yelled.
    "Twice!"

    - RG>

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  47. Umm... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Three years ago the park had a population of 24 tigers, however none were found this year.

    In a completely unrelated story, 24 flabulously wealthy men around the world are suing an undisclosed business because they were not actually able to get erections after taking a certain hideously expensive medicine.

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  48. edebiyat forum by edebiyat · · Score: 1