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Kingston Unveils $1000 USB Flash Drive

Barence writes "Kingston has unveiled the 'world's first' 256GB flash drive, raising flash drive storage to the kind of capacity you normally associate with laptop hard disks. Kingston claims the drive is 'ideal for netbook users who want to extend the limited capacity of their machines,' although given that the device costs about twice as much as a netbook, buyers could probably get more storage by purchasing two of the cheap ultraportables. The device is made on a build-to-order basis, with a suggested UK retail price of £650.52 including VAT — that's an astonishing $1074.69 at current exchange rates. Not exactly cheap and cheerful."

119 comments

  1. But how damage-resistant is it? by twidarkling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I'm spending that kind of cash, I wanna be able to drop it off a building and have it survive - after it's been run over by a tank. Otherwise, there's no point in using it on a regular basis as additional storage for something you're carrying around all the time.

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    1. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by Dotren · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree. Furthermore, I'd want to know how heavy it is (I doubt it is very heavy at all but it does look rather beefy) as I carry usb flash drives around with me all the time at work. Then again, I'd be extremely leery of taking this anywhere. Should it get stolen or dropped somewhere, thats a rather large chunk of change gone.

      I can't imagine every buying one of these. If you need a mobile PC with that much hard drive space, why wouldn't you just get a normal laptop with some of the other nice features? I realize netbooks are ultra small and mobile but still...

    2. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Informative

      I actually did drop a corsair USB stick down a 14 story elevator shaft. Since it was on my keychain, I had them fish it out for me because I needed my keys. This was one of the models where the exterior is rubber. Anyway the cap had fallen off and the connector was bent. 30 seconds with a needle nose pliers to unbend it and I popped it into my computer to test it. It ran beautifully. It still works to this day.

      So if the outside is made of something soft, it may well survive the drop off of a building.

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    3. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by blitzkrieg3 · · Score: 1

      you mean like that rfid door opener in naked gun?

    4. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by FunPika · · Score: 1

      No I want it to be able to survive being thrown off the International Space Station, survive re-entry, AND survive impact regardless of where it lands, even lava or the Challenger Deep.

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    5. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      If I'm spending that kind of cash, I wanna be able to drop it off a building and have it survive

      If *I'm* spending that kind of cash, I want to buy a large box of 250GB USB hard disks and maintain a high degree of redundancy.

    6. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but have you tried the tank thing yet? I'm a bit curious.

    7. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by spud603 · · Score: 2

      rfid? door opener? the device you mention is neither of these.

    8. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      All my flash drives have been rubber coated. I've had three XPorter XT's over the years. I can't count the number of times I've dropped them in puddles, and been thankful for the rubber coating.

    9. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by shish · · Score: 3, Interesting

      An interesting question for any physics geeks -- what's the terminal velocity of the average USB stick, and is that velocity terminal to the stick? If they're sufficiently light and air resisting I suspect you could drop one from space without damage...

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    10. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by Jared555 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think at that point you would be more concerned about
      1. The heat it endures during reentry and
      2. Finding it

    11. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by srwood · · Score: 0

      I accidently ran my USB drive through a washer/dryer cycle. Still works to this day.

    12. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by Falconhell · · Score: 1

      And I might well survive. But if you dont use the remove hardware icon, sometimes it will be wiped!

      I forgot to safely remove once,(Eject for mactards) and the 4gig drive was wiped. Grrrr.

    13. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Particles of dust can survive reentry because their mass is low compared with their surface area. There is a lot of meteoric dust in the upper atmosphere for this reason and it has been suggested that there would be less precipitation on Earth without meteoric dust to nucleate rain drops.

      That usb key is more massive than most of the bright meteors you might see in the night sky. It won't survive atmospheric entry, though building a heat shield around it probably wouldn't be difficult.

    14. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by ZosX · · Score: 2, Informative

      1. Thermal tiles/Heat Shield.

      2. GPS / Homing Beacon Transmitter

      Also you might have a hard time finding a good LZ that isn't covered in water...so you might want to prepare for those thermal tiles to conveniently float.

      That would survive the drop from space. Terminal velocity would be far easier for it to survive. I'm too tired to do math, but you can find the equation here:

      http://www.vias.org/physics/example_1_6_08.html

      I'd imagine a lot of rubber padding would certainly be the key. (no pun intended)

      Apparently humans can somehow survive terminal velocity in rare instances, or I've heard too many urban legends.... (citation needed)

      Don't know why your comment was marked funny. I personally found it insightful.

    15. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by somersault · · Score: 1

      So if the outside is made of something soft, it may well survive the drop off of a building.

      Tell that to this guy..

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    16. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by corsec67 · · Score: 1

      What is this "icon" you are talking about?

      Does it call umount?

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    17. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

      >So if the outside is made of something soft, it may well survive the drop off of a building.
      Didn't help the poor Chinese/Apple/Foxconn guy.

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    18. Re:But how damage-resistant is it? by Goodl · · Score: 1

      African or European

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  2. So by funkatron · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    After removing the tax, applying the excahnge rate and dropping the price a bit, I've worked out that it'll retail for around $6.50 in the US.

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    1. Re:So by ivan_w · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ooops.. Here is a correction for you..

      After removing the tax, applying the exchange rate and dropping the price a bit, I've worked out that it'll retail for around $6,500,000.50 (+/- $.50) in the US.

      --Ivan

    2. Re:So by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      ...it'll retail for around $6.50 in...

      Decimals are only needed if you are including cents. Oh, and you put it in the wrong place. It's supposed to be after the zero.

    3. Re:So by Shakrai · · Score: 1

      After removing the tax, applying the exchange rate and dropping the price a bit, I've worked out that it'll retail for around $6,500,000.50 (+/- $.50) in the US.

      No problem, I got my wheel barrel full of cash right here. I was going to use it to heat my house but what the hell, might as well splurge a little. Or would it be better to exchange some goods and services instead of fiat currency? I've got some ammo and canned food laying around here somewhere, hey, you wouldn't happen to have an extra can opener for sale would you?

      We got the guns, the ammo, the canned food and the chicks to repopulate the species with, but some jackass forgot to put "can opener" on our getting-ready-for-the-apocalypse shopping list......

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    4. Re:So by ivan_w · · Score: 3, Informative

      Tss tss tss..

      If you have a Remington 1100 : Unscrew the magazine cap, remove the 1st sealing ring, pull away the barrel, remove the piston seal, the piston, the action bar and the 2nd sealing O-Ring. Using a screwdriver or any thin but sturdy object, remove the front cap to release the magazine spring. With a pin chaser and a rubber mallet, remove the 2 pins that lock in the trigger mechanism. With a pair of pliers, remove the fork spring inside the chamber. Remove the bolt by pushing it forward.

      Use the bolt with the shell extractor in place as a can opener !

      Once the can is empty, clean the spare parts with some lighter fuel, spray generously with WD-40, wipe with a soft cloth, re-assemble, load a shell (no larger than 2"3/4 shells though) and shoot the can.

      --Ivan

    5. Re:So by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Just shooting the can seems much easier. Besides, if he doesn't have a screwdriver and hammer in his survival kit, he's doomed anyway.

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    6. Re:So by Bobartig · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait you've got a screw driver, mallot, pin chaser and pliers and you're using some weirdo gun part to open the can?

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    7. Re:So by ivan_w · · Score: 1

      Ridnick's way man !

      --Ivan

    8. Re:So by rossdee · · Score: 1

      If you have a modern design military firearm, you can disassemle it in less than a minute without any exta tools.

    9. Re:So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's wheelbarrow. A barrow is like a cart.

      "Desmond had a barrow in the marketplace."

    10. Re:So by kkrajewski · · Score: 1

      I'd just use the bayonet on my Yugo SKS.

    11. Re:So by HiThere · · Score: 1

      That answer is not only better, it's been field tested. (Well, the bayonet part. Not sure about the particular model.)

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    12. Re:So by taucross · · Score: 1

      I lol'd.

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    13. Re:So by somersault · · Score: 0

      A mobile telephone is still a telephone. A wheel-barrow is like a small cart, or barrow if you will.

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  3. Two netbooks? by Gary+W.+Longsine · · Score: 1

    Article Summary FAIL.

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    1. Re:Two netbooks? by navygeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      You seem surprised....

  4. 256GB Flash Ultraportables? by theelectron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    given that the device costs about twice as much as a netbook, buyers could probably get more storage by purchasing two of the cheap ultraportables

    What kind of flash netbooks are you buying with that much storage?

    1. Re:256GB Flash Ultraportables? by _avs_007 · · Score: 1

      Over here, for $299, you can get a netbook with a 160 gig hard drive

    2. Re:256GB Flash Ultraportables? by theelectron · · Score: 1

      and that 160gig is flash?

    3. Re:256GB Flash Ultraportables? by CannonballHead · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I doubt they are "cheap" netbooks if they have 128gb ssd's in them. On the other hand, "cheap" relative to the prices of the 256gb flash drive is perhaps a relevant discussion... hehe.

    4. Re:256GB Flash Ultraportables? by Fishchip · · Score: 1

      Did summary say 'more flash storage'?

    5. Re:256GB Flash Ultraportables? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh poo...usb wont be any faster than a poo-poo-platter based disk drive.

  5. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  6. First 256GB flash drive? Hardly by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's the first 256 GB USB flash stick, not the first 256GB flash drive. There are half a dozen 256GB flash-based SSDs out there that attach via SATA. The only thing that makes this even slightly relevant is the form factor.

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  7. Not even competitive for notebooks by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pricewatch has 64GB usb sticks at $150 at cheapest (happens to be a kingston now too):
    http://www.pricewatch.com/browse/flash_card_memory/usb_64gb

    and that's not even the sweetspot of GB/$$ because the 32GB usb sticks are around $60, much less than half that despite being only half the capacity.

    Also, a 2.5" 256 SSD drive that can be put into most notebooks starts at $608:
    http://www.pricewatch.com/browse/hard_removable_drives/ssd_256gb

    So why would anyone buy a more expensive USB stick to "extend their notebook" when they can do so internal to the notebook, for cheaper, and have all the benefits of a SSD drive?

    1. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or you could get a 500 GB HDD for under $100 that will still be much faster than the memory stick -- and will cost you 5% of the price per GB, you would really have to be a fool to buy one of those things right now.

      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136314

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    2. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by babyrat · · Score: 1

      So why would anyone buy a more expensive USB stick to "extend their notebook" when they can do so internal to the notebook, for cheaper, and have all the benefits of a SSD drive?

      Why would anyone buy a 64GB memory stick when they can buy a 500GB 2.5" drive for the same price?

      Perhaps once someone has purchased the 256GB SSD drive and installed it into their notebook, they could double their capacity for only $1000 more. For corporate users, $1000 is a drop in the bucket.

      And without a doubt in the next 6 months you will see the price plummet.

    3. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed. You have to move to SATA-based SSDs for flash to be a speed win. USB just doesn't cut it for serious storage, both in terms of CPU overhead and in terms of maximum throughput. Of course, if you're moving stuff back and forth between two machines, the alternative is probably a USB external drive that has all the same performance problems. FireWire is much better in both respects. And, of course, eSATA is better still, but is relatively rare.

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    4. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

      you would really have to be a fool to buy one

      One could say that about almost anything. As long as no one is making you buy one, or prohibiting someone else from buying one, it all works out.

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    5. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they can have all the benefits of an external drive and not have to carry a computer with them.

      This is finally big enough for me to throw not just my O/S, but all of my regular applications onto it, and have some room left for storage--I should be able to boot about any computer I want off of them.

      My standard linux install, with apps I'm 50% likely to use in a given month runs 7G. There's more media than that which I like to have handy--throw that in, and I'm at 27G. Add in long term personal archives of things I *do not* want to lose ever, I'm at 30G.

      The problem is--I'm paranoid. This requires a truecrypt volume--completely separate partition, with a clone of a 'real' system to provide plausible deniability--60G. To keep the drive indistinguishable in terms of wear leveling, you also write 'genuine' random data (don't worry, I have a real source) onto the other half, or possibly interleave it -- 120G. Now there's no way to tell which sectors or portions of the drive are written, and even statistical analysis and advanced contact inspection on fast block ciphers fails (who uses CBC for FDE?).

      I'd actually like to have another disk-on-key which would have a PRNG generate a key for an OTP on writes -- the only 'decrypted' portion on either disk would have to be the MBR, and basic boot sector. You can now alternately write the random number, and the xor of the actual data randomly between the two disks--dynamic OTP FTW.

      Anyway--just a little bit of paranoia, and you easily need 128G of storage just for a fairly minimal install. Best of all, the 'real' computing environment is no longer on your laptop--but worn around your neck, or taped behind your balls...

    6. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by SBrach · · Score: 0, Redundant
      You say

      Anyway--just a little bit of paranoia......taped behind your balls...

      Then you say

      taped behind your balls...

      Wow.

    7. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by uglyduckling · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I vote for "taped behind your balls" as the next Slashdot meme.

    8. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Depends on your purpose. Since each one is being hand-built I'd rather assume that Kingston doesn't see a large market, and for some purposes this might be approaching ideal.

      N.B.: It's both much smaller and much lighter than that hard drive you talked about. It also uses a lot less power. It's true you're paying a high premium for those factors, but not exorbitant.

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    9. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by Alex+Belits · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      /b/ can have it.

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    10. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by bschorr · · Score: 1

      Or you install the 2.5" drive into an external enclosure that still attaches via USB. Then you have the space for less money and in a form-factor that you're less likely to drop out of your pants pocket when you get up from the table at lunch.

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    11. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by TOGSolid · · Score: 1

      Damn, beat me to it. My first thought when I read the comment about using one of these sticks to "extend the limited capacity of their machines (netbooks)" was somewhere along the lines of "wait wat?" I could easily put a 500 GB HD in my netbook, and my primary laptop has two 500 GB 7200 RPM HDs in a RAID 1 in it. Why the hell would I need a 1000 dollar USB stick?

      Why not just get a cheap external HD? Western Digital makes some great ones.

    12. Re:Not even competitive for notebooks by DrBlack · · Score: 1

      ...taped behind your balls?... that's the first place they look... just replace one of your digits with a prosthetic and you could have a literal 'thumb' drive

  8. Size, reliability and security by parallel_prankster · · Score: 1

    So, with such a high price tag, the only advantage really is the size and hopefully it is reliable enough. With such a large capacity handheld drive, I hope they offer some kind of online backup method or something. What about security ?? Its likely to get misplaced. Do they offer secure access with this ?

  9. Wow, at that cost... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It better come pre-loaded with the cure for cancer.

    1. Re:Wow, at that cost... by cashman73 · · Score: 1

      Either that, or all of CowboyNeal's porn. Though I'm sure CowboyNeal has more than 256 GB of porn,...

    2. Re:Wow, at that cost... by silent_artichoke · · Score: 1

      Of all the people here that you could get pr0n from, THAT is who you choose?

      Sicko...

    3. Re:Wow, at that cost... by bertoelcon · · Score: 2, Funny
      Maybe 10MB of it is human.

      The rest is Rule 34 backups.

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  10. Size wars by NaCh0 · · Score: 1

    Now that these things are getting big, who is going to popularize building them with eSATA connectors to get some good speed out of them?

    Think how cool a true flash drive in your pocket would be!

    1. Re:Size wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always wondered about power issues with eSATA. How will it get power?? Current thumb drives get the power via USB.

    2. Re:Size wars by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      You get it through... USB. Which is one of the reasons why eSATA won't ever take off. Though there are a few computers with powered eSATA connectors.

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    3. Re:Size wars by level_headed_midwest · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nobody will do that. What you will see is USB 3.0 USB sticks. That should give you about the same bandwidth as eSATA, plus it is an always-powered port.

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    4. Re:Size wars by HiThere · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think they're planning on USB3. It's supposed to be quite speedy...though I've no idea what that means.

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  11. $1000 USB is still USB... by Guppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Kingston Unveils $1000 USB Flash Drive

    This is a little like making a gem-encrusted toilet seat. While undoubtedly a useful interface (I use it almost every day), it is ill-suited to fast, bulk transfers, and I'm anticipating crappy performance despite the high price tag.

    1. Re:$1000 USB is still USB... by EdipisReks · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is a little like making a gem-encrusted toilet seat. While undoubtedly a useful interface (I use it almost every day), it is ill-suited to fast, bulk transfers, and I'm anticipating crappy performance despite the high price tag.

      I find the toilet seat to be perfectly well suited to fast bulk transfers.

    2. Re:$1000 USB is still USB... by WiiVault · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I was thinking the same thing. If this were FW800 that would change everything.

    3. Re:$1000 USB is still USB... by Voyager529 · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is a little like making a gem-encrusted toilet seat. While undoubtedly a useful interface (I use it almost every day), it is ill-suited to fast, bulk transfers, and I'm anticipating crappy performance despite the high price tag.

      I find the toilet seat to be perfectly well suited to fast bulk transfers.

      ...and crappy performance.

    4. Re:$1000 USB is still USB... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You also have to manually flush the buffers, especially after a core dump or a large memory leak.

    5. Re:$1000 USB is still USB... by ZosX · · Score: 1

      Its good for core dumps. You gotta watch though, if your dump is too big, you run out of space.

      Who cares about performance when you are in the middle of a dump?

    6. Re:$1000 USB is still USB... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is repeating the parent's joke funny?

  12. A Bet I made. by jameskojiro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I made a bet to someone that by October of 2010 we would see some sort of USB 1TB Flash drive. I think my bet is safe.

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  13. 256 GB / $1074.69 by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

    How many GB can I get in a flash stick for 23,148,855,308,184,50?

    1. Re:256 GB / $1074.69 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You?

      Zero.

  14. My solution by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    Or, you can replace the magnetic drive inside with a SSD drive like THIS for much less ($699) and get an external case to carry it one of THESE a total cost 25% less (approx $770).

    But that is just me.

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  15. What are these people smoking? by east+coast · · Score: 1

    buyers could probably get more storage by purchasing two of the cheap ultraportables.

    They could definitely get more buying an external drive from Best Buy with 3-4 times the storage at 1/10th the cost.

    There is no question here as to how cheap storage is.

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  16. Oblig facetious post by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

    I wanna be able to drop it off a building and have it survive - after it's been run over by a tank. Otherwise, there's no point in using it on a regular basis as additional storage for something you're carrying around all the time.

    Do you have 256GB worth of data as to how to avoid being run over a tank or something?

  17. Been said before, but the first time I bought ram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was $65.00 per megabyte. And this, although not ram, would be worth $16,640,000.00

  18. In related news by NonUniqueNickname · · Score: 0, Redundant

    We've received unconfirmed reports that former IBM president Thomas Watson has risen from his grave to estimate the world market for 256gb flash drives at "maybe 5".

  19. At that price it should be firewire / e-sata as we by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    At that price it should be firewire / e-sata as well as usb.

  20. You guys are Looking at it the wrong way: by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Yes, its expensive. Remember when a Gig of RAM was this much?

    Guess what, its dirt cheap now.

    Give it a year, everyone will have a Terrabyte on their iPhone 10.0's

  21. Re:First 256GB flash drive? Hardly by Bakkster · · Score: 1

    And for 256GB, the $1000 price tag is roughly in line with current thumb drive pricing. It is slightly higher due to the additional cost of fitting that much memory in a small form factor.

    If you need (very) large capacity portable storage, this could be worth it to you.

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  22. I can't wait... by HikingStick · · Score: 1

    I can't wait until these end up on Woot!

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    1. Re:I can't wait... by Icegryphon · · Score: 1

      I can't wait until these end up on Woot!

      All that wonderful useless crap we don't need. I love Woot.
      BTW who would ever need more than 256GB in flash drive space..kidding of course.
      Only problem is USB 2.0 is sooo slow still. Where is my USB 3.0??

  23. I think there is a world market for maybe five by HannethCom · · Score: 1

    But what...is it good for?

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    1. Re:I think there is a world market for maybe five by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Understanding the joke, but
      I think the number is between 5,000 and 50,000. Not much for a company, but this product is good PR, and it's a step towards an actual commercial product at a much cheaper price. But I'd guess that it won't be released until after USB3 is finalized. (When's that expected? I haven't been following it.)

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  24. conversions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not exactly cheap and cheerful. - unlike the dollar

  25. I use USB Flash drives as diskettes by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since I got rid of my 3.5' 1.44MB drive and disks several years ago, cheap USB Flash Drives have become their replacements.
    As long as the pendrive is fast and robust enough, I don't care much as size. 1 or 2GB are ok for the use I am giving them.
    I have a dedicated and encrypted drive for my work, another with personal data that's in a Ziplock inside my safe, another one in the internal USB port my motherboard has, another one in my DVD player front USB port, another four in those mini hubs behind my pc, etc.
    If I need better and faster portable storage with respectable size, I use my 300GB WD Passport Essential that got in a Amazon deal. It has multiple partitions, some encrypted.

  26. Damn, I lost my USB key by Lorens · · Score: 1

    It must have fallen off my keychain or something. What do you mean, "No big deal, USB keys are a dime a dozen"?

    1. Re:Damn, I lost my USB key by TheLink · · Score: 1

      One or both of you work for the UK government?

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  27. Well, this answers the question I asked by wiredog · · Score: 1

    here...

  28. Re:US Military by bertoelcon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The US military has already placed an order for 500,000 of these.

    Each one will be used to store just one file: a 500 kilobyte PDF file that contains a soldier's manual for shining shoes.

    And of course all military computers have usb locked out anyway, so you couldn't use it in any military sense anyway.

    Just another day in the uses for the tax dollar.

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    Anything can be found funny, from a certain point of view.
  29. johnny mnemonic? by Draxxon · · Score: 1

    Very cool indeed to have that much storage space in the palm of your hand. I like how tech is getting smaller and more powerful but the cost as it is is kinda out of this world but im sure in time as all with all cool new tech the price will drop.

    1. Re:johnny mnemonic? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      IIRC he only had a hundred meg in there anyway. Must have seemed a lot to William Gibson.

  30. Small foot print USB HDD's by Paracelcus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Western Digital My Passport Essential 500 GB is $120.00 and it's tiny!

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    1. Re:Small foot print USB HDD's by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, it's only what, 5-6 times bigger?

      The whole point of this thing is that it is a USB stick with 256gb of flash. If you drop this USB stick, it should not be harmed unless it falls from very, very high. Drop your Passport Essential off a table and chances are it is toast.

      They are used for different purposes, they cannot be compared directly. I personally would never buy one, and being custom order I don't think Kingston believes there is a big market for them either. However, someone will find a use for them, and will buy them, and that's great for them.

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      Security is mostly a superstition... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. - Helen Keller
  31. Re:256GB Flash Ultraportables? Beats me... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Butt, it does give rise to a new meaning of "pocket rocket" and "pocket pool"... And, "Are you happy to see me, or is that a massive data stream in your pocket?" or "I bet your thumb drive is bigger or pack more pow than your tea spout" types of thoughts....

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  32. Wrong Direction by Erik+Fish · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What they need to be working on is a $2 flash drive.

    NAND prices are way up this year, but if USB flash drives are going to be true floppy replacements the manufacturers need to find some way to make the small (less than a gig) sizes cheap and keep them that way.

  33. Exchange rate, pah. by asdf7890 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The device is made on a build-to-order basis, with a suggested UK retail price of £650.52 including VAT â" that's an astonishing $1074.69 at current exchange rates.

    I love how people quote "at current exchange rates" when talking about tech gear. I don't know how well it works the other way around, but here in the UK it isn't often that we see true exchange rate parity for either hardware or software. Even when the pound was worth ~1.8 of your dollars it wasn't unusual to see consumer kit priced at closer to 1UKP==1USD, and I'm comparing online prices here (so I'm not making the mistake of comparing US online prices to UK high-street prices). Not that I'm bitter or anything...

  34. redundancy isn't the point by harkabeeparolyn · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... size is. Put simply, for the first time 256 GB can comfortably fit inside a human anus. If you can't see a use for that, then you're not living your life nearly dangerously enough.

    1. Re:redundancy isn't the point by HiThere · · Score: 1

      But if you swallow it, can you sneak it through customs?

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    2. Re:redundancy isn't the point by somersault · · Score: 1

      Better to just encrypt it and carry it through with the rest of your stuff. Hiding it in strange places is only going to pique security's interest.

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      which is totally what she said
    3. Re:redundancy isn't the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goatse here. A standard 3.5" hard disk already fits quite comfortably in my anus.

    4. Re:redundancy isn't the point by RockDoctor · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better to just encrypt it and carry it through with the rest of your stuff. Hiding it in strange places is only going to pique security's interest.

      What's "strange" about stuffing it up your hole? Make the ablative "survive fall from space" coating (see my comment up-thread) in a Caucasian pink, Asian brown, or African "black" ("umber" would be more appropriate? not that it's a precise colour) ; make the "aerodynamic drag" shape so that it won't disappear up your rectum. Carry a spare in your briefcase.
      [Security Guard] There appears to be a suspicious mass up your ass sir - I can see it on the scanner.
      [Data Smuggler] It's my butt-plug, ossifer ; I always travel with a plug up my butt. It make the endless hours standing in queues and eating rubber chicken much more bearable. I can fantasise about being butt-done by my favourite butt-doer.
      [SG] ! {speechless}
      [DS] In fact, ossifer, it might make your working day pass much more nicely too. Look, I've got a spare in my briefcase. you can try it just now. If you've never used one before, you'll need to lubricate it {spits, polishes, proffers rubber implement with legend "give it to me big boy!" clearly legible along the length.} a lot {spits} to get it all in.

      Well, you might end up getting a lot more than you expected in a CIA Black Prison. But hey, that's been a hazard of travel for most of a decade now.

      Did you notice that I slipped in (sorry!) a fictional whole body scanner that can discriminate the wiring in a USB stick? No? well, it is fictional.

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  35. Confession by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

    Father I need to confess. Contrary to popular belief the significant parts of my life fit in a couple of 16 GB SDHC cards. A bit of video on one and all photos on the other. That's it.

    I take the complete works of Edsger Dijkstra need even less storage. If I would be so privileged to be one 10th as meaningful as he was to society -which I'm not- then 32 GB is still over-dimensioned.

    It's the age guys. All of a sudden one starts to be realistic.

    Back on topic. Fact is these gadgets will become dirt cheap and then I'll buy of course.

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    I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
  36. I like it... by greymond · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the last decade has shown us anything, this means that in a couple years I'll have a terabyte flash drive I can carry in my pocket that runs me about $300.

    1. Re:I like it... by Falconhell · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean. About 5 years ago I paid

      $150 Aust for a 128Mb Flash drive. )-:

  37. Expensive flash drive,... by John+Guilt · · Score: 1

    ...cheap particle-detector.

  38. Back in my day, $1000 for a meg was a big deal! by haaz · · Score: 1

    Yyyyup. Can't tell by the looks of this here rocking chair, but it just seemed like last week that you couldn't buy one of these here "sticks" of RAM. No sir-ee, you had to buy "SIMMs," which if my memory serves me correctly stood for "single in-line memory module." Yyyyup, I remember when the Mack-Twooo came out, and by golly, you could put not just one or two, or even four, but you could put a whopping EIGHT whole SIMMs in that baby! Hooo-wee, did she fly after that! Boy I tell ya, those Flying Toasters flew like you'd greased their wings with cod liver oil, I tell you what!

    O' course then they had to make those "DIMM" things, and they says it was even better than the Sims... but dat was before we had SimThis and SimThat. No, we just had SimCity on my old black and white Mac SE... and we liked it! Don't need all these fancy colors or big honkin' screens... just give me my eight megahertz and a nine inch screen and I'll be happy, I tells ya...

    Now, the SE, yeah, that could only fit I tink mebe four of them DIMMMMMs er SIMMMses or whatever you called them.....

    eh, where's my cane?

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    -- haaz.
    1. Re:Back in my day, $1000 for a meg was a big deal! by Green+Light · · Score: 1

      very well done. it's always nice to see that there are others that have the exact same memories as you do...

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  39. Data warranty by ndik · · Score: 0

    "The DataTraveler 300 claims data transfer speeds of up to 20MB/sec, and comes with a five-year guarantee."

    With 256GB capacity, I'd want a 5-year guarantee on my data too.

  40. Re:At that price it should be firewire / e-sata as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At that price, it should have a 13" LCD screen, Keyboard, Motherboard ... and wifi.

  41. Why buy it for $1000 now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when you can wait a year or so and get it for $20?

  42. Re:First 256GB flash drive? Hardly by k-macjapan · · Score: 1

    It should come with an eSATA adapter on the other end of the stick. Like this one.

    http://www.kanguru.com/eflash.html

  43. I have 2TB USB drive by Fotograf · · Score: 1

    it is.... ... a bit bigger though, but was 200Eur

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  44. Limited capacity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't know about the rest of you, but my netbook has a 2.5" drive just like every laptop does. The only limit to it is how much I'm willing to spend on a new hard drive, and that certainly isn't going to be anywhere near the $1000 for a 256gb flash when I can get a 500gb drive off of Newegg for $100.

  45. Yes, but.... by Daswolfen · · Score: 1

    ... will it blend?

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