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Facebook Lets Advertisers Use Pictures Without Permission

Krokz sends in an LA Times piece that begins "A warning is bouncing through cyberspace today, landing on the Facebook statuses of many of the social networking site's users. The message: 'Facebook has agreed to let third party advertisers use your posted pictures without your permission.' It continues with a prescription of how you can protect your photos." The attention-grabbing incident in this furor involved a married woman, whose photo appeared in an ad for a dating service that was presented to her husband to view. Fortunately, both husband and wife had a sense of humor about it.

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  1. Sense of humor? by clang_jangle · · Score: 0, Troll

    I guess some people will put up with anything in exchange for appearing in the media somewhere. Frankly, after all the very public warnings about facebook I have no sympathy for anyone foolish enough to use their service.

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    1. Re:Sense of humor? by DavidR1991 · · Score: 1

      Frankly, after all the very public warnings about facebook I have no sympathy for anyone foolish enough to use their service.

      Which is a stupid approach to take, considering the warnings would have come some time after many had users had signed up (and since FB has no intention of allowing account destruction = fail)

    2. Re:Sense of humor? by flowsnake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What if someone else posts a picture in which you are present? Odds are that you have been to a family or social gathering at which someone has a camera, and has later uploaded the photographs. Avoid Facebook all you like, but if friends and family use it you are likely to end up on there whether you like it or not.

    3. Re:Sense of humor? by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > What if someone else posts a picture in which you are present?

      What if the New York Times puts a photo with you in it on their front page? The photographer owns the copyright.

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    4. Re:Sense of humor? by clang_jangle · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually the stupid approach is the one so many have taken -- posting all their personal photos and data online. I have never and will never do such a thing. And since most of my family and all of my friends have more sense than to do such a thing, I have no real cause to be concerned.
      Duh!
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    5. Re:Sense of humor? by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      ... but you would need to sign a model release before an advertiser could use it.

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    6. Re:Sense of humor? by couchslug · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Frankly, after all the very public warnings about facebook I have no sympathy for anyone foolish enough to use their service."

      That's why I post my personal pics to 4chan where they will be respected!

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    7. Re:Sense of humor? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Looks like the FaceBook TOS includes a model release of a sort, doesn't it?

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    8. Re:Sense of humor? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually no. If you find one of your photos used in an ad, contact that company asking for $30,000.00 for use of the photo.

      If they dont, Pull a DMCA takedown on their ass via their ISP.

      Honesty, people need to use the same scumbag tactics these companies use.

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    9. Re:Sense of humor? by shentino · · Score: 1

      But if you didn't register with facebook, that doesn't give them permission to use a photo with you in it, because you never agreed to their TOS.

    10. Re:Sense of humor? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Sure. So sue your brother-in-law for posting the picture, FaceBook for making it available to the advertiser, and the advertiser for using it. Problem solved, and it has nothing to do with FaceBooks TOS, since, as you say, you never agreed to them.

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    11. Re:Sense of humor? by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The biggest reason that facebook et al need to be pursued on this, is not just the theft of image but, far more importantly the theft of your honesty and integrity. By using your image, they are implying that you approve of and recommend the product that your image is attached to. It is very much a theft of who you are. So not a copyright infringement but a fraudulent misrepresentation, it really is one of the worst 'marketing' abuses I have ever come across.

      That facebook would stoop this low is a real warning to users or more accurately as it turns out, the used of facebook, time to shift locations, things are bound to get worse as try push to monetise - 'you'.

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    12. Re:Sense of humor? by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      If you think this is one of their worst marketing abuses you should see what they do with banned accounts, they prop them up like puppets and pretend that person's still active.

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    13. Re:Sense of humor? by areusche · · Score: 1

      I say vote with your feet and switch to Myspace or the even older classic Xanga!

    14. Re:Sense of humor? by Seumas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's worse are some of the reactions in discussions on facebook this week. There are a lot of idiots who comment that "who cares if they use my image for commercials or whatever?!".

      It's amazing how little the current generation of young people care about their brand, their imaging, their right to own their data and information, and being compensated for utilization of their likeness. After all, if it's worth it to the advertiser to use your information or likeness, then IT HAS VALUE and you should be compensated for it.

      I almost find the lack of concern for what was initially purported to be the actions happening more vile than the purported actions themselves.

    15. Re:Sense of humor? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      By using your image, they are implying that you approve of and recommend the product that your image is attached to.

      Which I consider a form of libel.

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    16. Re:Sense of humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your mom won't get off my hard drive and I don't respect her at all!

    17. Re:Sense of humor? by bestalexguy · · Score: 1

      If the rules of our democracy make our ability to protect our rights proportional to our court litigation budget, ordinary people are going to be 3rd millennium's slaves. Class action is our life jacket.

    18. Re:Sense of humor? by PatrickThomson · · Score: 1

      Because your image is only viewed by your friends, that's what, 100 impressions? And the clickthroughs are abysmal. There ain't a micropayment system small enough to tackle this. This is similar to an advert with a mirror in it, or saying "I bet you know some happily married people, come to quickshag.com to be like them". Ok, data-mining your own profile for information to use to advertise to you is pretty scummy, but at least it ends up being relevant. Because of my listed interests, I get relevant ads.

      Fwiw, I still disabled the ad usage, but come on, get some perspective. This is the internet, this is facebook. They're not about to use you as the next face of Levi's and frolic evilly in a pile of your money.

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    19. Re:Sense of humor? by Techman83 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately MySpace has some naughty advertisers that pedal smitfraud. Not that I use any social networking site or an OS that is affected by such nasties.

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    20. Re:Sense of humor? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      Although I completely understand where you're coming from, who are you to declare what should and should not offend someone?

      I'm sure as hell pissed off that Facebook are trying to pull crap like this, but surely if I weren't then that'd just mean I had a slightly happier day today. What's so wrong with that?

    21. Re:Sense of humor? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      Levi might not be finding their next ad campaign on Facebook, but Virgin Mobile tried it on Flickr.

      Sure, it was technically permissible under the license given, but to do so without even dropping in an email mentioning it is not exactly courteous.

    22. Re:Sense of humor? by soren202 · · Score: 1

      Wow.... everyone needs to calm the fuck down.

      If anyone here RTFA and used facebook, they'd know that this is just referring to those stupid ads that grab random profile pictures and stick them next to generic text. There is no "theft of your honesty and integrity" because the ads carry about as much credibility as the "hot singles in [your city]" or the multitude of poorly spelled viagra ads that flood your inbox on a daily basis.

      If this were something where the advertisement using my picture was global, or used outside facebook, or not automated, it might be an issue.... but that isn't the case. Everyone with an ounce of brains knows what these ads are, and nobody in their right minds would take them seriously. It's the price we pay for a free social networking site, and no amount of bitching changes the fact that Facebook does have to get money from somewhere.

    23. Re:Sense of humor? by Weffs11 · · Score: 1

      Having lived a block away from a major tourist landmark for a year, I'm certain that I am in thousands of facebook, and other, photos. I'm pretty sure I can't do anything about it either, public space and all.

    24. Re:Sense of humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's amazing how little the current generation of young people care about their brand, their imaging, their right to own their data and information, and being compensated for utilization of their likeness. After all, if it's worth it to the advertiser to use your information or likeness, then IT HAS VALUE and you should be compensated for it.

      It's the "information wants to be free" generation. What else did you expect? When you don't respect the rights of others to control their data, why would you respect your own? If you download all the latest and greatest for free, regardless of its perceived or real value, without any compensation, then why would you expect others to compensate you for any such?

    25. Re:Sense of humor? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      Anybody seriously grabbing "random" profile pictures for any kind of advertising from Facebook, MySpace, Flickr, etc, is setting themselves up for serious legal trouble... there's a lot of questionable stuff up there and if you are taking the time to vet the poor snapshots and the underage photos you might as well spend another 15 minutes to do the legal legwork. These sites should make opt-in photo sharing for people's pics and a revenue sharing model with posters. Say allow users to select pictures for advertisers to look at and if they're chosen for advertising use fill out a form and get $5 (and $5 for facebook) Put it in some kind of blind auction so you approve or deny use of the picture, but not necessarily the exact company using it (so everybody's not holding up big companies for money).. but so YOU get notified for EVERY image used before the use happens.

    26. Re:Sense of humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically you stated you're over 50 and nearly dead anyway. You've got another what, 15 decent years left in you?

      Facebook is the devil! Anything new is bad! Meta modding confuses me!

      You're not even "hey kids, get off my lawn", you're the type of guy who cemented his lawn.

    27. Re:Sense of humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the common law tort of "passing off" which is why companies like EA have to pay huge amounts of money to sports stars for the right to use their names in video games (and all the other sponsors too).

    28. Re:Sense of humor? by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      Hey you kids, get off my driveway!

    29. Re:Sense of humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here we have one of the main points of libertarianism - some people simply don't give a damn about some of the rights we hold dear, so why not let them voluntarily give them up?

    30. Re:Sense of humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are wrong on every count, troll. Guess you never experienced meta mod back when meta meant meta -- we were actually moderating the moderations. Moron.

  2. Old news by lezerno · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    My wife, who is not that up on tech things, told me about this earlier in the week.

    1. Re:Old news by John+Hasler · · Score: 0, Troll

      What is "tech" about this?

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    2. Re:Old news by Odinlake · · Score: 1

      What is "tech" about this?

      It's on the Internet. This time around however, people here seem instinctively to be in favour of copyright *gdr*.

    3. Re:Old news by an+unsound+mind · · Score: 1

      s/copyright/privacy/

    4. Re:Old news by malkir · · Score: 1

      print $1

    5. Re:Old news by iwein · · Score: 1
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  3. Holy Cow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean that a company can make my face appear in an advert? That sounds terrifying...no wait, it doesn't. Why was I supposed to care about this again?

    1. Re:Holy Cow! by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ok, you heard it here first - Anonymous Coward for thinks Stayfree Maxi Pads are the best [insert pic]

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    2. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, that's Anonymous Cowardon to you pal!!

    3. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous+CowHardon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Careful there, you're almost treading on my new handle!

    4. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many times are you gona set that joke up before you get bored of it?

    5. Re:Holy Cow! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      According to his user page, this is the one time he's commented. Give a cowhardon a break!

    6. Re:Holy Cow! by religious+freak · · Score: 3, Funny

      Give a cowhardon a break!

      Sounds painful - real painful

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    7. Re:Holy Cow! by sys.stdout.write · · Score: 1

      I can't believe I just spent a minute in Python decoding your signature just to be insulted!

    8. Re:Holy Cow! by religious+freak · · Score: 1

      Hey, it's not an insult! It's a compliment - it means you probably make more money than the Average Joe, are smarter than the Average Joe and have a larger cock than the Average Joe - or maybe that's just me :D

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    9. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous+CowHardon · · Score: 2, Funny

      MOO!

    10. Re:Holy Cow! by yourassOA · · Score: 1

      You know cows are female?

    11. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous+CowHardon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course. The hardon is FOR the cow, you insensitive clod!

    12. Re:Holy Cow! by pentalive · · Score: 1

      You might not like it if you only drive Dodge automobiles, but Ford takes your picture to use on their website as though you suddenly like their cars. (ob auto analogy)

    13. Re:Holy Cow! by KronosReaver · · Score: 2, Informative

      You know cows are female?

      Not only female, but Adult Females who have already given birth to 1-2 Calves (depending on region).

    14. Re:Holy Cow! by unitron · · Score: 1

      Give a cowhardon a break!

      Sounds painful - real painful

      Paging Dr. Bennett. Paging Dr. Bennett.

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    15. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bagsees this - LagreHardonCollider

    16. Re:Holy Cow! by soren202 · · Score: 1

      To be honest, nobody takes such advertisements seriously.... or, rather, if they do, they need to get their brain examined.

      If anyone gets in a huff about stuff like this, they need to reexamine their priorities, as I'm sure there are much more worthy injustices going on in the world, than people having their images displayed next to two-bit iq test advertisements, or ads for dating websites to their friends on an occasional, random, automated basis.

    17. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous+CowHardon · · Score: 1

      Got MILF?

    18. Re:Holy Cow! by pentalive · · Score: 1

      Well I was going to go with an atheist being forced to advertise a religious gathering... but I didn't want to spark that much controversy.

    19. Re:Holy Cow! by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 1

      That's okay, if you needed any outside source to be able to read it, it doesn't apply to you. I read it by converting the binary to decimal in my head and knowing that 97 is 'a' and 32 is ' '...

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    20. Re:Holy Cow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paging Dr. Bennett. Paging Dr. Bennett.

      Shouldn't you page Dr. Mohinder Suresh? Last I checked, Noah wasn't a doctor.

  4. Big deal by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apart from goatse, I don't have any pictures on facebook.

    1. Re:Big deal by Kifoth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Change your profile pic to a text image reading 'DON'T BUY THIS PRODUCT!' Then set your privacy settings to be as accommodating to advertisers as possible :)

    2. Re:Big deal by papaskunk · · Score: 2, Funny

      What is this goatse? Is there a picture or something you can show me so I can get an idea of what you're talking about?

    3. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That reminds me of a co-worker. I punished him for using MySpace a little while ago
      He forgot to logout when he went to lunch and when he came back his MySpace profile picture would allow anyone to look deep into his body.

    4. Re:Big deal by NeuroKoan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Before you start googling around, remember that once you see it, you can't unsee it.

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    5. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Used to be a famous picture, but strangely enough, it's been taken off the internet. So much for the Streisand effect!

    6. Re:Big deal by lordofthechia · · Score: 1

      No problem. I replaced my profile photo and all my other photos with:
      http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/29/fritzl.jpg

      Good luck selling any products now biatches!

      ( Well... unless they're selling discreet basement construction...)

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    7. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      On the hole, I'd say that looking at it is not that big of a deal.

    8. Re:Big deal by machine321 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not only that, you'll start seeing Goatse EVERYWHERE. Business logos, childrens' television shows, family photos...

      Granted, Goatse is a family photo, but still.

    9. Re:Big deal by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is a way, but you're not going to be able to do it.

      Long term memory is formed from the short term memories that you keep recalling. So, if you want to forget something, the obvious way to do it is to not think about it. A lot.

      And there's the problem. You can try not to think about something as much as you want, but you're only going to end up getting your city destroyed by a hundred foot tall marshmallow monster.

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    10. Re:Big deal by Hirsty · · Score: 1

      Goatse!

    11. Re:Big deal by dgbrownnt · · Score: 4, Funny

      I had a image on my site hotlinked without permission by a political website. I 302'd the image to a t-shirt of the opposite political views (but only if they viewed from that site). Fun ensued :)

    12. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is why I think most of those psychologists are quacks. For decades they've been telling people to "talk about it" (especially traumatic experiences), "vent it out" and other stupidity.

      The more you do something the more you get better at it.

      So if you keep talking about a nasty experience you just had and reliving it, that nasty experience is going to be "burned in" deeper and deeper.

      If you keep letting out your anger, you just get better at being angry (learning to calm yourself down works better, if necessary get someone to hook you up to monitors for better biofeedback ).

    13. Re:Big deal by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      If all you've got is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

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  5. Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook blog. by jdigital · · Score: 5, Informative
    (From http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=110636457130)

    In the past couple of days, a rumor has begun spreading that claims we have changed our policies for third-party advertisers and the use of your photos. These rumors are false, and we have made no such change in our advertising policies. If you see a Wall post or receive a message with the following language or something similar, it is this false rumor:

    FACEBOOK has agreed to let third party advertisers use your posted pictures WITHOUT your permission.

    The advertisements that started these rumors were not from Facebook but placed within applications by third parties. Those ads violated our policies by misusing profile photos, and we already required the removal of those deceptive ads from third-party applications before this rumor began spreading. We are as concerned as many of you are about any potential threat to your experience on Facebook and the protection of your privacy. That's why we prohibit ads on Facebook Platform that cause a bad user experience, are misleading, or otherwise violate our policies. Along with removing ads, we've recently prohibited two entire advertising networks from providing services to applications on Facebook Platform because they were not compliant with our policies and failed to correct their practices.

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  6. The Evil Plot by Akira+Kogami · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems at this point like Facebook's plan was to make itself an indispensable part of millions of people's lives and then abuse them like this because they know most users still won't quit.

    1. Re:The Evil Plot by Jawn98685 · · Score: 0, Troll

      It seems at this point like Facebook's plan was to make people think that it was an indispensable part of their lives and then abuse them like this because they know most users still won't quit.

      There, fixed it for you.
      It can not be stated too often or too forcefully. If you are stupid enough to put anything you might consider to be even remotely private onto a network that is accessible to a sizable chunk of the world's population (i.e., a potentially very public place), then you really shouldn't be surprised when that thing turns up as a subject of discussion on Slashdot. Not that I'm complaining about some of the "should have been kept in the shoe box" stuff that has hit the net, but STFU with the whining about privacy already.

  7. In other news by PBoyUK · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Man who continually stands in the middle of the road is hit by a car. Seriously, what are these people expecting when they sign up to a site like Facebook?

    1. Re:In other news by Seumas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm sorry, but that's stupid. That's like saying that you deserve to have your information exploited and released in any way whatsoever for ANY website you use. Or, for that matter, for any ISP you use (since ISP terms of service often include the right for the ISP to use any content you transmit over their connections).

      Facebook is no worse than many other services and much better than some. Like other sites, they COULD full out abuse their users, but even if they don't have a "do no evil" mission statement, they do want to keep good-will of their user base or else everyone will move on to the next thing just like everyone moved on from MySpace.

      That said, Facebook has massive sketchy potential, but not anything particularly more than other sites like LinkedIn or Picassa, or Flickr or Slashdot (which for all we know could just decide one day to un-anonymize your every message you ever posted while logged in).

      Now, using facebook applications? THAT I would definitely agree with you on. The first thing you should do on Facebook is shut off all applications and hooks to applications.

    2. Re:In other news by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      There is not so long distance from this to newspapers complaining about Google News. Once you publish to the world your photo it could be used anywhere unless expressly forbidden. If Facebook had such kind of restriction on the photos published in its site, then can sue that advertiser.

      Probably also could be a not so long distance from spammers, that usually take real emails from unrelated people to send their offers. In both cases is "you" attached to an unrelated company product/offer because some of your information is somewhat public.

    3. Re:In other news by ToadProphet · · Score: 1

      It isn't trivial with ISP's or websites, but Facebook is a one-stop shop for data mining, profiling, etc.

      That isn't to say that I think we need to don the tin foil hats immediately, but do realize that the data is permanent (well, sorta). What you post there today might be innocent enough, but neither you nor I know what the future holds and how your rants against or leanings toward lefties or righties or whatever might be viewed in the future.

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    4. Re:In other news by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2, Informative

      Facebook's entire reason for existing is collecting advertising information and making advertisements more effective. Why would you act like it is terribly misguided to declare that by using Facebook, people are asking to be subjected to this kind of stupidity? The entire setup of Facebook is designed to extract as much information about you and how you interact with your friends as possible.

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    5. Re:In other news by PBoyUK · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's an acceptable thing, but people really don't have much to complain about when they upload so many personally identifiable details about themselves that are so publicly available. It'd be like complaining about getting a virus from some warez site. No, the virus should not have been there, but you have to accept the risk that comes with what you do. The average facebook clone user I know puts absolutely zero thought into how to protect their privacy, and I'll bet a lot of them are the same way.

    6. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was expecting to have anonymous gay sex with like-minded linux users. FB delivers.

  8. facebook generation by timmarhy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    mark my words, the current generation who post anything and everything on myspace and facebook will end up regretting it. I have to wonder what will happen when facebook goes into decline and cash dries up, and they start selling pictures to porn sites. what if you go for a job and they recognise you from a site you have nothing to do with called bustedpartysluts.com?

    unless facebook has you sign a proper model release form, i can't see how this kind of use is going to hold up.

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    1. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, your comment could apply to EVERY site you ever use that you provide ANY data to. Hell, even your ISP. All you have to rely on is the need to maintain good-will toward customers.

      Also, nudity and porn is not allowed on Facebook, so... Yeah, good luck with that hypothetical grandpa.

    2. Re:facebook generation by limonadito · · Score: 2, Insightful

      what if you go for a job and they recognise you from a site you have nothing to do with called bustedpartysluts.com?

      If they recognize me from bustedpartysluts.com I'm not sure I'd want to work for them...or would that make a very interesting workplace?

    3. Re:facebook generation by timmarhy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      grandpa? i'm 29 you spastic, but clearly you are a lot younger and inexperienced then i am because you failed to conceive the possibility that nudity doesn't matter in the slightest - if you were an attractive female they could easily use only your head shot. let alone there are still plenty of racey photo's of people on facebook anyway.

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    4. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. And add to that scenario, the ZOMG!!!1!! the terrorists use facebook!!1!!. A win-win - boost profits by selling data to government agencies and protect us all. Or they just take it.

    5. Re:facebook generation by basementman · · Score: 1

      Sell it to a porn site? Why on earth would a porn site want pictures from FaceBook, the vast majority of which are of fully clothed individuals? The zillion photos FaceBook has have no monetary value besides the traffic they bring from people who are friends the individuals in the pictures.

      Now there are other reasons you shouldn't post incriminating pics to FaceBook, but porn sites buying them isn't it.

    6. Re:facebook generation by palindrome · · Score: 2, Funny

      29? You're a grandpa, live with it. I'm 31 and have learned to deal with the youth-focus of society.

      That said, grandparent is a spastic... I just blew my own mind with ageism C4.

      (also it's the internet you idiot, you post it the world sees it (and Facebook is shit))

      If anyone can trace the focus of this post then please let me know - issues when I agree with both sides make me a confused and angry old man.

    7. Re:facebook generation by Zakabog · · Score: 1

      Sell it to a porn site? Why on earth would a porn site want pictures from FaceBook, the vast majority of which are of fully clothed individuals?

      There are actually websites out there that pay you for those types of photos. They have some banner that says "We found these sluts on MySpace!" and show you some of the pictures that girls like to take in the mirror wearing a bathing suit, drunk at a party making out with another girl, or just a hot girl who is fully clothed. The idea is that people will see those photos and think "Oh if I buy a membership I can see THAT GIRL naked! When all they have is a couple photos that look like they came from MySpace mixed in with a bunch of topless or sexual photos of other girls that were submitted to the site and not taken from a social networking site.

    8. Re:facebook generation by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm getting real tired of this attitude. My generation isn't stupid. They know what they're doing -- they're creating a transparent society where we can all be a bit more polite to one another because everyone has dirt on everyone else, and because we want to put ourselves out there and make friends, rather than dying alone in some castle with all our toys like the boomers are right now, because they wanted their precious privacy. We actually want a gender and color-blind society, built on freedom and transparency -- and we're doing just that. Oh, the humanity! The only thing this generation regrets is that management is generally 40+ and thinks that because someone doesn't have their personal information out there, they're somehow better qualified. Which is about the only thing I hear people worrying about with their online profiles -- not whether their friends, or even their own mother, or pastor, or old high school teacher, finds out about those drunken photos. But the boomers, and their outdated notions of privacy and freedom, will die before us. This is why I'm glad people don't live forever... new ideas would never have a chance if we did.

      --
      #fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
    9. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see another thing happening as well: people will just stop caring. If everybody's got pictures of themselves drunk at a party somewhere, then maybe the next generation won't feign surprise whenever someone is shown to be enjoying alcohol. I really hope it's closer to the latter.

      Through various relatives and teaching positions I have seen jr-high and high-school age kids just live their entire lives on these networks. And it's not just a few of them. It's everybody. So I really think what's going to happen is that cognitive dissonance is going to melt away, and the people who blog more than others aren't really going to be taken to task over it.

      At least, I hope that happens. Hearing about a new case every month where some poor kid is suspended or arrested or sued or what-have-you for saying something stupid online...everybody needs to just get over themselves.

    10. Re:facebook generation by basementman · · Score: 1

      Websites like that generally don't bother paying for photos or getting the proper rights. They just host offshore and copy paste them to their hearts content.

    11. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This seems somewhat generous... People posting pictures online may know what they're doing, insofar as they don't care that others know they were at a party last weekend, or whatever else. But precious few are posting with the active intent of "creating a transparent society..."

    12. Re:facebook generation by zuperduperman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know what is sad? It's not going to end like that. It's going to end instead with so many high profile people getting burned (read: sons and daughters of politicians) that they will use it as propaganda to introduce laws to control / regulate / filter / disable the internet as we know it today. You'll have to be licensed to run a web site. Compulsory training. Mandatory insurance. Complex data security and logging laws that make it so burdensome to operate a simple web site that it will retreat to being something only possible for big corporations and beauracracies to do. You can already see it starting in the EU but that is just the tip of the iceberg.

    13. Re:facebook generation by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      I personally cannot WAIT for the coverage of the 2032 presidential elections, when the robot housing Wolf Blitzer's disembodied head appears on our holovision to read the headlines: "Today it was revealed that presidential candidate Picklecopter, Senator from New Space Mexico, posted on his MySpace page in 2009, 'Dude, Troy's kegger was the shit last night. I nailed that hot chick from econ class...she was so hammered I don't think she even remembers it!' More on that breaking story after this report on the sexual molestation lawsuit filed against Michael Jackson's third clone by his fourth and fifth clones." It will be GLORIOUS.

      --
      We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
    14. Re:facebook generation by Seumas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, I'm the AC you're responding to and I'm actually in my 30s. I just don't happen to have the octogenarian "them damn kids - get off my lawn!" attitude that you apparently have. You clearly have a gripe with social networks *period*, just like a few decades ago people would have complained about kids "on that darned phone all the time".

      I'm not condoning the shitty practices they're clearly either piloting or considering, but to blame potentially shitty business or marketing or privacy practices of a business on the users of the social network or saying they "deserve it" is just ridiculous. It kind of sounds just a step away from saying how all those young people having sex deserve to get lots of STDs and you can't wait until they do... just because you're angry some people are having lots of great sex.

      Now, for idiots who do actually post questionable pictures of themselves online (you know the type - the morons who often find themselves unemployed because someone saw their half naked pot smoking beer bonging pics from last weekend online)... that's fine. But that really has little to do with the other 98% of people and the social networks they frequent.

    15. Re:facebook generation by Seumas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've heard a lot of people suggest recently that the next couple of generations (those who are perhaps in their teens today) will look toward internet results and social networking hits on an applicant or social acquaintance or potential date with much less accusation. That they will give the benefit of the doubt to people they deal with because they'll take into account that anyone can impersonate you online, say things about you online, and that even legitimate things that are your responsibility may have been done when you were young and crazy. Further, because almost everyone will have some residual guilt from things *THEY* did online at one time or another, they'll extend a courtesy to everyone else. After all, if you catch them on something now, they'll catch you on something tomorrow. You look past it and they'll look past yours.

      HOWEVER... this doesn't work so well today, does it? In fact, those with something to hide are traditionally THE MOST accusing and relentless in attacking others for the same things. Think of all the raging homophobic bigots that turn out to be in the closet doing coke off the asses of young men in the back of a night club?

    16. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You already see people slobbering over pictures ripped from facebook by a friend-of-a-friend and then posted to sites like 4chan. Once you put something online it no longer matters how private you think the conversation is or how strict the policy is - it's out there. I don't know if it really matters though. Embarrassing things used to spread through word of mouth, now it's basically the same except the world is your village and the news is spread online. Not such a huge leap.

    17. Re:facebook generation by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      what will happen when facebook goes into decline and cash dries up, and they start selling pictures to porn sites

      Why would any porn site pay a cent for millions of low res snapshots of nobodies, almost all fully clothed, overweight, pimply etc?

    18. Re:facebook generation by KarlIsNotMyName · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just because you feel like speaking for an entire generation, I felt I had to reply, as I assume I'm the right age for that generation.

      And I still have a sense of privacy (not so much of freedom because of all the rules and laws that don't make any sense, but that's a different topic). Not that it's any trouble having privacy online, just don't give out your info. I've probably got 20 different names I go by online, none of them close to my real name, or eachother. Which actually lets me bring up personal stuff when I feel it's relevant, without creating a public profile of myself online.

      I don't have a need to have dirt on anyone, or for anyone to have dirt on me, to be nice with people, though. That's on a person by person basis, nice until proven jerk. Unfortunately there are a lot of jerks.

      --
      We are all God's parents.
    19. Re:facebook generation by bitrex · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Every generation believes that it knows better than the previous generation, and that certain social institutions are the way that they are simply because no one has ever tried anything different. History of course tells a different story, but those uncomfortable facts are conveniently overlooked. Would a society which is informationally "transparent" really lead to a society which is more polite? As an anecdotal experience, I had a violent childhood where the number of people whom I could trust could be counted on one hand with fingers to spare. Now, did I have "dirt" on the people and groups whom I was in conflict with? Of course I did - anyone who in conflicts for long enough gets to know their enemy. Did it matter that I did? Not a whit - because it was in the interests of the powers that be to ignore that any conflict was taking place. Information about me was easy ammunition, but I could have shouted on the streetcorner all day about the misdeeds of people I was dealing with and it wouldn't have mattered a whit. Information is only useful when you have the power to act on it, and in a "transparent society" it will me made damn sure that the capability to actually act on the wealth of information available is designated only to the select few. The powerful will always find a way to exploit the weak and there is absolutely no way around it. It's genetic, it's human, it's who we are.

      "Gender neutral" and "color blind" are just a new set of weapon-words that play their part in the struggle of group against group - who would really want such a society if there weren't some advantage in it for them? A society which is totally transparent and has no refuge for one's individual experiences, thoughts, and actions may be a useful vehicle for those attempting to obtain this "gender and color-blind society" (to their own advantage, as always) but it is not a society built upon freedom, it is the antithesis of a free society.

    20. Re:facebook generation by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, a gender and color-blind society, built on freedom and transparency would be one of the worst possible things to happen. Would Obama have been elected if the press hadn't focused on his race?

      "The study of history is a powerful antidote to contemporary arrogance. It is humbling to discover how many of our glib assumptions, which seem to us novel and plausible, have been tested before, not once but many times and in innumerable guises; and discovered to be, at great human cost, wholly false."
      -- Paul Johnson

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    21. Re:facebook generation by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

      I have to wonder what will happen when facebook goes into decline and cash dries up, and they start selling pictures to porn sites. what if you go for a job and they recognise you from a site you have nothing to do with called bustedpartysluts.com?

      I'd ask the interviewer what he was doing trawling porn sites in the first place ;-)

      --

      People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
    22. Re:facebook generation by bwalling · · Score: 1

      Hardly. Once people get over their need to hide shit and likewise the superiority feeling they get from pointing out someone's mistakes, that will be one less thing for the powerful to lord over the weak, and subsequently more freedom for everyone because they don't have the risk of public shaming by hypocritical nitwits who probably did the same thing but are hiding it. This whole pretending to be pure in public is tyranny, and we need freedom from it. As a plus, these people willingly posting their stuff on the Internet seem at least more willing to own up to who they are than the older generation that wants to hide behind a public face.

      Your "antithesis of a free society" argument fails. I'm sorry, but a bunch of fakes making up a moral lynch mob is not freedom - it's tyranny.

    23. Re:facebook generation by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Actually, a gender and color-blind society, built on freedom and transparency would be one of the worst possible things to happen. Would Obama have been elected if the press hadn't focused on his race?

      You mean that it would have been a bad thing if they would have, in fact, focused on his complete and utter lack of qualification for the job?

      --
      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    24. Re:facebook generation by Garwulf · · Score: 1

      "But the boomers, and their outdated notions of privacy and freedom, will die before us. This is why I'm glad people don't live forever... new ideas would never have a chance if we did."

      Wow...Comrade Stalin, anybody?

      Funny thing - I notice you don't seem to be talking about the freedom to have a private life. I also notice that those "baby boomers" you dismiss so callously are the same people who fought for civil rights in the '60s, fought both in and against Vietnam in the late '60s and early '70s, and brought about the sexual revolution. They fought for freedom and equality, and changed the face of America for the better. What have you done lately? I mean, besides putting your personal information online and pissing on their accomplishments.

      A lot of people fought and died so that you can have those freedoms. A lot of people are fighting right now to let you keep your privacy. Freedom does mean the freedom to make your life public if you choose, but it also means the freedom to decline the opportunity if you choose. And transparency does not mean that nobody has privacy, but that when an important decision is made affecting you, you are allowed to know why it was made.

      The baby boomers understand this, and knew to fight for it. It's a pity you don't.

      --
      Robert B. Marks
      Author, Demonsbane in Diablo Archive
    25. Re:facebook generation by blhack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      [quote]My generation isn't stupid. They know what they're doing -- they're creating a transparent society where we can all be a bit more polite to one another because everyone has dirt on everyone else[/quote]

      No.

      Your (mine too) generatrion isn't STUPID, they're ignorant. They literally do not understand that when they upload their photos to their "private" profile, there is nothing to prevent me, or you, or anybody else from writing a perl scrip that walks through all of my "friends" downloading all of their photos, and saving them to my computer for some sort of future use.

      Getting dirt on everybody so that there is dirt on *nobody*? Lets over-look how stupid this is for a second, and pretend just for the sake of argument that that is even possible. Not everybody uses facebook. So there is not dirt on *everybody*. What happens when the fox news of 30 years from now is looking up dirt on whatever person is running for president at that time? Do you think they're going to ignore the photos that that guy or girl's friends posted of them doing a beer bong at a party 30 years ago that they didn't know about?

      The people who chose NOT to ues facebook, or whatever social network will pop up in the next couple of years to replace it, are going to have a considerable advantage over those who used it.

      No. They're going to absolutely and completely rip them to shreds. Look at how some web forums like 4chan have used the leverage that they can gain from places like facebook to blackmail people into doing what they want? This IS only going to get worse.

      The ubiquity of cameras is, and should be, frightening. Any "advice" to the contrary should be taken as borderline malicious.

      --
      NewslilySocial News. No lolcats allowed.
    26. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are not protected just because you don't post info on facebook. You have to ensure any digital photo taken of you in any sort of compromising position/situation is promptly deleted.

      You have to troll facebook to be able to flag images for deletion or to untag yourself from photos. If you remain tagged, people will be looking at those photos with an ID of you digitally represented right under your pretty little face.

      This beast is so big it is devouring you already. Cut off your limbs? Or just jump inside and hope the bile has a pH of around 7...

    27. Re:facebook generation by lennier · · Score: 1

      "Would Obama have been elected if the press hadn't focused on his race?"

      In a do-over one-on-one contest against John McCain (with Miss Alaska in the background)? In a heartbeat, and probably faster. He was the only one who could talk in complete sentences.

      Would he have made such a meteoric rise *to* Presidential candidate without race angle? Not sure.

      --
      You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
    28. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck with your social experiment. Just let the rest of us 'opt out'.

    29. Re:facebook generation by EdIII · · Score: 1

      I'm getting real tired of this attitude. My generation isn't stupid.

      Your generation is considered "stupid" because your approach to privacy and dissemination of your information is seen as haphazard, foolish, simplistic, naive, etc. I could go on for pages.

      Basically, the crux of the matter is that it is felt you don't understand the dangers and consequences of your actions. You would be doing yourself a disservice as well to simply dismiss such statements. Older generations have quite good reasons to fear for their loss of privacy.

      They know what they're doing -- they're creating a transparent society where we can all be a bit more polite to one another because everyone has dirt on everyone else,

      That does not even make sense. Having dirt on someone is only useful when they are concerned about their privacy, or more specifically, about that particular piece of information becoming public. Ostensibly, that information would harm them since their friends, peers, community, place of work, etc. would judge them harshly and there would be undesirable consequences.

      You just contradicted yourself. A transparent society is one in which that threat is completely removed as all actions are instantly known to all and consequences are swift.

      In your Utopian vision, nobody could ever obtain dirt on anyone in the first place.

      and because we want to put ourselves out there and make friends, rather than dying alone in some castle with all our toys like the boomers are right now, because they wanted their precious privacy.

      Now you are just being judgmental. It is a choice to be a "social butterfly". Nothing wrong with being an extrovert and seeking out new relationships and experiences. However, you are making some rather nasty value judgments against people that could be considered introverts. Those people are not inherently flawed because they are shy or like to stay at home in their "castle" and seek quiet enjoyment of their "toys". That lifestyle is not limited to 40+, 50+, or any age. There are people in their early 20's that are like that, and I know many personally. You make an attack against the "boomers" which seems like a transparent attack against older people, and The Man, The Establishment.

      Privacy is precious. You assign no value to it because of your chosen lifestyle. It is clear you wear this a badge with great pride. "I have no Privacy! I like to meet new people!". Valuing privacy is not a negative trait. I respect that you have made a personal decision to live very openly in soceity, it is just sad that you clearly look upon those of us with disdain that would like to live privately.

      We actually want a gender and color-blind society, built on freedom and transparency -- and we're doing just that.

      Lack of Privacy has nothing to do with gender blind and color-blind societies, and would not serve it's interests positively. In fact, it is the other way around. If there were no such attributes on the Census, and job applications, etc. then it would serve such goals far better.

      Privacy is Freedom, my friend. It is an absolute, sacrosanct, irrevocable right to all human beings. You are electing to give up your privacy for your own ideals and lifestyle, but you cannot and should not be able to give up mine for any reason.

      Transparency (or complete lack of Privacy in this context) is not Freedom either. What you fail to realize is that information does not serve everyone equally. You have to consider the relative amount of power between two parties, or influence if you will. I may know something about you that I find undesirable or disagreeable. However, we are equals in a sense. I have no control over your life in any way, shape, or form. What about your boss? Society in general? Government? There are quite a number of individuals, groups, governmental bodies, corporations,

    30. Re:facebook generation by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      Everybody does things they regret while they are growing up and feeling their way through the transition from adolesence to full adulthood. It's just the current generation are the first who have posted records of these events to public forums.

      Trust me, the day will come when it won't seem so cool to have photos of yourself hanging over a toilet throwing up, or half naked while dancing at a drunken rave available to every Tom, Dick or Harry, or even worse - a potential employer or partner.

      --
      Sara
      Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World
    31. Re:facebook generation by Crimsonjade · · Score: 1

      AC is spot on. People tag photos of friends who do not have Facebook accounts.

    32. Re:facebook generation by ikajaste · · Score: 1

      Not everybody uses facebook. So there is not dirt on *everybody*. What happens when the fox news of 30 years from now is looking up dirt on whatever person is running for president at that time?

      Ahem, in 30 years, there might not even be a facebook. I think the poster (girlintraining) was referring to a larger phenomenon, where people are sharing their life - all the fabulous along with all the dirt - with the global community. This would not refer to only facebook, but to blogs, myspace, etc, etc. So your point about everybody not using facebook isn't valid, since the poster wrote about a larger shift in treating information, a shift she apparently percieves that we're in the middle of.

      Now I might not agree with her, but if she's arguing about the future (privacy un-corcern in facebook being only an anecdotal evidence of the generational shift), I can't agrue against her by stating something current.

      Do you think they're going to ignore the photos that that guy or girl's friends posted of them doing a beer bong at a party 30 years ago that they didn't know about?

      The point is, that they will, since everybody has those photos. "Ooo, look, he was drunk as a teenager" loses a lot of it's strength, when there are pictures of everybody being drunk as a teenager.

      And yeah, not everyone will have those pictures. Some will stay walled within their privacy. But the point is not all have to go along - it's quite possible to argue that there's a certain critical mass you have to overcome. After that, nobody cares if you're a posterboy in digital archives, because many, many other respectable people won't be. You may get a slight advantage, but not certainly a significant one. Might even end up being a disadvantage - people like that won't look like they've lived or experienced anything interesting.

      As I said, I might not agree with that view, but I think it's a valid argument, that certainly doesn't deserve and absolute "NO!" as a reply. I fear only time will tell who's right, and I just hope the open and pretenseless society is really the future - not the over-controlled image-centric one where everyone does stuff but has to hide it from everyone else (who are also doing similar stuff they are hiding) that we have today.

    33. Re:facebook generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would Obama have been elected if the press hadn't focused on his race?

      Someone with a ton of charisma vs. an old guy who is constantly made fun of for his occasionally idiotic comments about technology? Yeah, I think it would have turned out the same. After all, as hard as one side was pushing the 'black' aspect, the other side was pushing the 'woman vice-pres' aspect.

    34. Re:facebook generation by blhack · · Score: 1

      You are completely and totally missing the point here.

      NOT everybody uses facebook (or as I said in the part of my post that you apparently skipped, any other social network that will rise in the next 30 years). This idea that having "dirt" on everybody nullifies its value because the value of it is uniform for everyone is absurd...beyond absurd.

      Marijuana. A LOT of people us it. Does this mean that if Obama was caught smoking it that the news media wouldn't be ALL OVER him for it?

      Okay, okay...that is extreme. Alcohol. EVERYBODY drank it in college (or nearly everybody)...and almost all of those people drank it to excess.

      If we had pictures of Obama drinking a beer bong, or doing body shots off of some girl, that Rush Limbaugh wouldn't shit his pants in excitement?

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      NewslilySocial News. No lolcats allowed.
    35. Re:facebook generation by ikajaste · · Score: 1

      My point that facebook might not be available in the future was only to illustrate it is a bigger issue than current social media. It was misguided, I admit. However, my argument wasn't based on that.

      If we had pictures of Obama drinking a beer bong, or doing body shots off of some girl, that Rush Limbaugh wouldn't shit his pants in excitement?

      Sure he would - but that's today. The original argument was that we are in the middle of a generational shift, and what we share now would affect the future politican in the future. My arguemet was that if young people today and in the future share their life, we will reach a critical mass of people sharing their life, after which so-called dirt will stop mattering all that much.

      So while Obama would indeed be in a crisis today, people living in a open, shared society of the future would not care. It's also worthy to note that even today the resulting political ciris would be much smaller than it would have been a hunderd years ago, even though people assumedly did just as much bad stuff back then.

      I should also repeat that I'm not sure I agree with this theory, but I do think it's plausible enough not to be outright denied.

  9. They had permission; headline wrong. by a+whoabot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read the terms of service.

    When you sign up you agree to the terms of service, which clearly says you grant Facebook an unlimited, worldwide licence to use anything you post on Facebook. Unfortunately, no reads it!

    1. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Nossie · · Score: 1

      /. preview: no one reads it!

    2. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by edman007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yea, grant Facebook and unlimited license, I would not consider this license to extend to facebooks affiliates/advertisers. The issue is that its not facebook using it, they gave your IP to advertisers, and the ToS does not appear to give facebook the right to sell the unlimited license to anyone they please, but IANAL, so what do i know.

    3. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by genik76 · · Score: 1

      If one would read the terms of service linked by you, one would see that Facebook states that "We do not give your content to advertisers."

    4. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yea, grant Facebook and unlimited license, I would not consider this license to extend to facebooks affiliates/advertisers.

      FFS. I fyou are going to comment on the terms of service, you should at least read the terms of service:

      you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook

    5. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They say that now, but their TOS retain the right for them to do so if they choose.

    6. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Vetala · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, actually, they do say a "[...] transferable, sub-licensable [...] license", so yes, they are asking to extend it to other people (otherwise applications couldn't use it if they were (for example) posting your profile photo in a competitive ladder, or perhaps Facebook uses a 3rd party caching server).

      HOWEVER, they do also say that it is "subject to your privacy and application settings" which puts a fair limit on what they are allowed to do with it - basically it says who they or anyone to whom they sub-license can only use it in ways that your privacy settings allow (which along with all their other terms basically says that you don't need to worry about advertisers using - or even having - your information unless the advertiser isn't following the rules).

    7. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Another+David · · Score: 1

      AGREED! rtfm before you sign up for shit... even though fb has apparently revoked advertising rights from the people who did that, but still. they do have the right to sell the photos you post on facebook.

      --
      I talk to the programmers so the customers don't have to.
    8. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even though they say that, I doubt it would hold up in court if someone decided to fight them. It's not a binding legal contract because like you said, nobody reads that stuff let alone signed anything.

      I'm pretty sure if taken to task a person's copyright would trump any claims Facebook would be able to make. Especially considering services like Facebook are almost like public utilities therefore negating any rights they have to plunder your stuff.

    9. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Right, they have full permission to do this. But remember, truth doesn't always make interesting headlines.

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      ---- Booth was a patriot ----
    10. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by palindrome · · Score: 1

      And if the TOS says they have the right to "gun down your relatives in front of your eyes and laugh like feral jackals while eating tasty pies" then that would stand up in court, right?

    11. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by countertrolling · · Score: 1

      In Pakistan it might...

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      For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
    12. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed. An unlimited license, a license the doesn't limit their ability to re-sell rights. Unlimited is a big word in a contract.

    13. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Like unlimited bandwidth with your ISP contract.

      Oh, wait . . . Oops. :)

    14. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by palindrome · · Score: 1

      Yes, and on the moon you may die of asphyxiation. It usually helps to speak in generalities. Human rights atrocities are somewhat cheapened by being used as a pointless retort.

    15. Re:They had permission; headline wrong. by countertrolling · · Score: 1

      ...pointless retort(s)

      2-1... You win

      Oh, and shitcan the lecture.

      --
      For justice, we must go to Don Corleone
  10. Jimmy Buffett (actually, Rupert Holmes) by flaming+error · · Score: 1, Funny

    I was tired of my lady,
    We've been together too long.
    Like a worn-out recording,
    Of a favorite song.
    So while she lay there sleeping,
    I read the paper in bed.
    And in the personals column,
    There was this letter I read:

    "If you like Pina Coladas,
    And getting caught in the rain.
    If you're not into yoga,
    If you have half-a-brain.
    If you like making love at midnight,
    In the dunes of the cape.
    I'm the lady you've looked for,
    Write to me, and escape."

    1. Re:Jimmy Buffett (actually, Rupert Holmes) by palindrome · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're now bored of Slashdot
      Because your posts are always wrong
      Why not spend your time on there
      posting lyrics of old songs.
      So while you should be sleeping,
      or reading papers in bed
      you confuse people normal people
      who aren't completely brain dead.

      "If you like Pina Coladas
      And getting caught in the rain
      then you're pretty simple
      and you've got half a brain
      If you like making love at midnight,
      In the dunes of the cape.
      Then you're just too specific
      And I'd question if you're sane."

      I think the depth of those tossed off lyrics touch all of our hearts. Remember when you have no opinions of your own then lyrics are just as good.

  11. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by ghostis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mod up please. /. really should check snopes/company blogs before posting summaries like this... :-/

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  12. Re:Unfounded rumor - more background by 1sockchuck · · Score: 5, Informative

    The ad network misbehavior that fueled this rumor was covered by VentureBeat in early June, when these networks were banned by Facebook.

  13. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by ghostis · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The parent comment - not mine ;-)

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  14. Hey you Kids! Pay Attention! by rueger · · Score: 1

    Lord almighty. As usual with Facebook controversies, you can very easily opt out of this and never have your photo used by an advertiser.

    And of course, Facebook is not mandatory, it's something that you choose to be part of.

    And of course, why in hell do so many people post illegal or embarrassing items to a fairly public and insecure site?

    1. Re:Hey you Kids! Pay Attention! by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As usual with Facebook controversies, you can very easily opt out of this and never have your photo used by an advertiser.

      You can't just assume you have permission - any contract like this must be opt in.

      And of course, Facebook is not mandatory, it's something that you choose to be part of.

      What if the terms are changed retroactively, to photos you already uploaded?

      What if you're not on Facebook and someone uploads a photo of you, that then gets used in an advert?

      And of course, why in hell do so many people post illegal or embarrassing items to a fairly public and insecure site?

      Off-topic. There are plenty of photos I might not mind being visible to a restricted set of people (Facebook photos don't have to be "public" FYI), but would mind being in an advertising campaign. In fact, even if I was okay with a photo being entirely public, doesn't mean I want it in an advertising campaign.

      (This assumes that the story is true - if it isn't, then there's nothing to worry over anyway.)

    2. Re:Hey you Kids! Pay Attention! by cetialphav · · Score: 1

      As usual with Facebook controversies, you can very easily opt out of this and never have your photo used by an advertiser.

      I'm not sure that you really can opt out. The terms of service says "subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook". Facebook makes no guarantees about what privacy and application settings will be provided so anything you put up is liable (perhaps accidentally) to end up being made available with no limitations.

      The real question is do you trust Facebook (and the various Facebook application providers). If you trust them, then put your whole life on there and hope they stay trustworthy even if they go bankrupt or get bought by Microsoft. I certainly would never want to try to show in court that Facebook violated those terms of service because it seems like there is a lot of wiggle room there.

      Personally, I don't really have that level of trust so I only put things on there that I don't care if they abuse. I simply assume that Facebook will be money grubbing bastards and act accordingly.

  15. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What Mark Zuckerberg really means is:

    We have banned the third party applications responsible for exploiting the privacy of our userbase, because we reserve the right to exploit their privacy OURSELVES".

    After all, there IS an option for this in the user settings, so its eems pretty clear that they either already do something similar or intend to in the future. The response from facebook is nothing more than Apple kicking an application out of their iphone app store, because they want to introduce their own version of it and make the money for themselves.

  16. Even the linked article claims they were mistaken by Vetala · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, first off, the article has a follow-up posted at the top of it saying they made a mistake and were corrected. But for the interest of people who would rather read comments than articles, here's what I've been telling everyone on Facebook who keeps passing around this foolishness:

    First off, the claim that Facebook is allowing 3rd party advertisers to use people's photos isn't quite the case. In fact, Facebook Terms of Service (http://www.facebook.com/terms.php) state (section 10.2) "We do not give your content to advertisers."

    Yes, Facebook may pair up your name and profile photo with an ad that gets sent to your friends, and yes, that can be blocked with the option mentioned in the message going around (Settings->Privacy->"News Feed and Wall"->"Facebook Ads" and select "No One" - or this link might work to get you there faster, since I'm feeling useful http://www.facebook.com/privacy/?view=feeds&tab=ads )

    This is not, however, 3rd party advertisers using your photo. Section 15 of the advertising guidelines for Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/ad_guidelines.php) state that an ad won't even be accepted if the advertiser is using photos for which they don't own copyright.

    Now for the useful: A Facebook application that has not been authorized by you or a friend cannot access any information about you other than what's in your public search listing. This means, though, that if you have a public search listing displaying your photo, an unscrupulous advertiser could get your profile photo.

    Any application you have authorized will be able to access information it requires to work. Definition of "requires to work" may vary. If you play a lot of 3rd party Facebook games, or do a lot of those quizzes going around, remember to check the Privacy Policies and Terms of Use for the application if your worried (or if you're really worried, don't do them).

    Any application your friends have authorized may be able to access any information about you (on behalf of your friend) that your friend can access. To limit what the applications can see, go to Settings->Privacy->Applications and go to the Settings tab (or have another link http://www.facebook.com/privacy/?view=platform&tab=other ).

    http://www.allfacebook.com/2009/07/downloadsquad-and-facebook-users-get-confused-about-facebooks-advertising-policy/ pointed out what more likely happened and downloadsquad corrected their position.

    And apparently, as jdigital noted already, even the official facebook blog says that's what happened. So yeah, if you've posted stuff online, somebody may take it and abuse it.. but no, it wasn't Facebook's doing in this case. RTF....Retraction?

  17. Careful when you read them TOS's! by tetrahedrassface · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Sometimes the fine print has things in there that you need to watch for. I use Facebook. I like Facebook. It lets me keep up with friends who don't happen to be geeks and use it as their primary communication tool. What I don't like is not having an option on my images I upload to choose a Creative Commons license. I wish I could do that, although the TOS pretty much says once you upload to FaceBook they own it. And that in itself is pretty damn restrictive and maybe not really legal.

    So please Facebook, just put all the creative commons license choices on there, and the problem is solved

    1. Re:Careful when you read them TOS's! by Z80xxc! · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, facebook modified their terms recently, such that their rights to materials you upload expire if you choose to terminate your facebook account. I agree that it's still not good to grant them that right at all, even if it's not forever though.

      What I tend to do is this: photos of people I know and which people will likely want to be tagged in and discuss I upload to facebook. Photos of scenery, vacation photos (without people), wildlife photography, etc, I post to Flickr. Facebook has an option on your wall settings to post a blurb to your profile when you upload photos to Flickr. People still see the link and get to see the photos, but facebook doesn't get rights they don't deserve, and you can apply a CC license.

    2. Re:Careful when you read them TOS's! by a+whoabot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Actually, facebook modified their terms recently, such that their rights to materials you upload expire if you choose to terminate your facebook account. I agree that it's still not good to grant them that right at all, even if it's not forever though."

      Not exactly:

      "For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos ("IP content"), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account (except to the extent your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it)."

      Of whom does "others" consist? I don't know.

    3. Re:Careful when you read them TOS's! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're the people you shared it with. Facebook are saying they can't go to your friend's PC and delete some photo you shared with him via facebook just because you have now quit facebook.

    4. Re:Careful when you read them TOS's! by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      I think the main reason for the "We own yer shit dude", is not because they intend on printing it out and selling it at a Gallery, or using it any other way similar, but simply that if they didn't have that clause, someone would inevitably try and sue them with shit like "which server is my photo sitting on? I never gave you permission to put it on that server", or for that matter, which State the server resides in, or even country for that matter. Also depending on your settings, almost all of what your Friends can see (Images, Videos, Notes), can be seen by anyone else on Facebook, so it might be there to thwart some idiots attempt to sue over invasion of privacy because "Sue-Ann told me that, Billy Cock Smoker's dogs groomer saw a picture of me ____", etc, etc, etc.

      Besides, Facebook reduces everything to the quality of shit (excluding text) anyways, so most of it would only really be "valuable" content, if they went back to 1996 with it. What good is a 604x604 JPEG, to anyone? Outside of maybe a wallet photo, it's barely SDTV quality. And whatever the hell they trans-code video to, which is still limited to that resolution. It's not worth really worth a license to either restrict, or keep-free the content, with the exception of pictures of people, but that's probably already covered under 5 or 6 different overlapping laws, contracts, "acts", clauses, and agreements.

    5. Re:Careful when you read them TOS's! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some obvious examples would be your friends, who have seen your pictures and downloaded them.

    6. Re:Careful when you read them TOS's! by ArthurDA · · Score: 1

      Although common sense logic says that you're correct, who is to say that Facebook, or even another third party (non-facebook-friend, read: advertisers), is not included in "others". This definitely needs clarification. a whoabot is spot-on with this.

    7. Re:Careful when you read them TOS's! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One example of this would be when you post something in someones wall and he or she does not delete it. Facebook will not delete it and you can't either.

  18. Hmmm by j_w_d · · Score: 1

    Do you mean to say that if a photo of your wife appeared like this you wouldn't contact her for a date? Tsk!

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    1. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean to say that if a photo of your wife appeared like this you wouldn't contact her for a date? Tsk!

      Okay, I guess I would if she had all the money and political acumen in the family and "the great love of my life" didn't want to talk to me after all the press.

    2. Re:Hmmm by Quantos · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is bullshit, as usual, you can disable this. It's in the privacy settings. If you leave it open your friends see you as an advertisement. No news here, move along....

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    3. Re:Hmmm by ctetc007 · · Score: 1

      Yes, you can disable this. The point of the message going around, at least the way I interpreted it, is that you should be aware if this and go disable it. It wasn't meant as an alarmist message to get people all up in arms.

    4. Re:Hmmm by Quantos · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't people continually check the privacy and security settings on anything that they do? I know that I don't just set it once and then forget all about it. A certain level of discipline is needed whenever you are online.

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    5. Re:Hmmm by Snaller · · Score: 1

      No they shouldn't.

      They should be able to trust that they live in a decent world not populated by sick fucks everywhere.

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    6. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      hahah... "decent world not populated by sick fucks"... please give me the 7 symbols to that planet so i can gate there....

    7. Re:Hmmm by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Really? When I saw the status comments regarding this topic, I went straight to the Facebook Ads section to disable it - Settings>Privacy>News Feed and wall>Facebook Ads and the FaceBook Ads tab was totally blank. Having checked just now, it is STILL blank. Unless it's my ABP blocking the Facebook Ads tab, Facebook made a quick jump to deny people the privacy of their photos.

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    8. Re:Hmmm by realnrh · · Score: 1

      Yes, AdBlock Plus reportedly does disable that tab.

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    9. Re:Hmmm by chimpo13 · · Score: 1

      Adblock blocked it from me. I had to disable it on FB so I could block it.

      Then I saw my wife in an add for match.com. As soon as she gets home, I hit her with the divorce papers!

      Seriously, it blocked it. Unblock. Make switch. Reblock.

    10. Re:Hmmm by dudpixel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe the defaults should be set to the most private setting, and allow users to SHARE their stuff. Facebook does it the other way round, they say all your stuff is public unless you specifically disallow it. How is that fair? Its an open abuse of people's right to privacy, and for the (hopefully brief) time between the change and when the user realises and updates their privacy settings, facebook has had a field day with your personal details.

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    11. Re:Hmmm by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      That really doesn't matter anyway. Without a signed release, it is violation of privacy laws to use someone's photograph in a commercial advertisement, period. You need a full fledged model release that makes it explicitly clear that you are agreeing to have a photograph of you used in this way, and in order to be a valid contract, you have to get compensation in return. The Facebook contract doesn't contain any such authorization, so it wouldn't protect an advertiser even if Facebook said such use was allowed. Further, even if the FB user agreement contained such an authorization clause, it still would not be legally valid. Profile photos may contain other people who are not a party to the FB user agreement.

      Thus, use of photos in that way is not a contract matter, it's a criminal violation of privacy laws, and companies doing this could easily find their ad people doing time behind bars.

      A far bigger problem, however is that Facebook isn't policing their advertisements AT ALL. I've seen violations of the no-use-of-photos-in-ads policy by that sleazy IQ Test scam as late as a few hours ago. Screen capture here.

      Facebook needs to ban that IQ test company from advertising on their site. Besides being a textbook case of telco fraud, they're violating a number of privacy laws with these ads, violating Facebook policy, etc. These people truly should be arrested.

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  19. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by jdigital · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you read the entire blog post you'll see that they describe that option fully. When enabled, it lets your friends see whether you have joined a Fan or Group page. Completely tame and clearly explained.

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  20. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank god for that, for a moment i w.. wait, i wanted it to be real so some people would have went nuts. .. nuts, hilarity ruined. :(

  21. Social Hack by mindbrane · · Score: 1

    Corporations have come to place a premium on aggregating personal information. If incorporated entities that do business with private individuals place such a premium on the individual's personal information doesn't that constitute value in a contractual sense? If personal information is of considerable value then is any one individual in a position to sell or contract h/is/er private data to a legal entity? Could a legal entity be incorporated in such a manner as to better protect the rights of any one individual to privacy and/or reimbursement for use of their private data than might a single individual? Would there be a pay off? Is it a viable business model, aggregating personal information, as a way to better ensure privacy, prohibit abuse and perhaps see some value in return? I dunno.

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  22. then what do they actually use? by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They do actually have a Privacy option, opted in by default, entitled "Appearance in Facebook Ads". I could forgive users for believing that this option, if set on, allowed them to, well, appear in Facebook Ads. The explanatory text isn't particularly clear, either:

    Facebook occasionally pairs advertisements with relevant social actions from a user's friends to create Facebook Ads. Facebook Ads make advertisements more interesting and more tailored to you and your friends. These respect all privacy rules. You may opt out of appearing in your friends' Facebook Ads below.

    It sounds like they're using something from your profile in Facebook ads shown to your friends, and it certainly doesn't explicitly rule out using your photos when they have you "appear[] in your friends' Facebook Ads".

    1. Re:then what do they actually use? by LiquidFire_HK · · Score: 1

      Are you sure it's opted in by default? I don't remember seeing/modifying it before, but it's off for me. Then again, I might have changed it and forgotten about it.

    2. Re:then what do they actually use? by Seumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Mine was opted-in by default. I never changed it. I didn't even know it existed. And I don't use applications so none of those changed it.

    3. Re:then what do they actually use? by Foldarn · · Score: 1

      Honestly, it sounds like an ad that I got recently to use as an example. I'm a Fmr. Marine, so obviously I talk to a lot of my Marine buddies a lot and I'm in a few USMC groups. I do see USMC Advertisements on the site, so I have no doubt they datamined that information. Doesn't matter to me if they do it, but to each their own.

    4. Re:then what do they actually use? by nahdude812 · · Score: 1

      This function has even actually been broken for over a week. When the article that kicked up this storm appeared, I immediately went to the privacy page and clicked on the ads to disable it, except the page had no content. That was on 7/18, and I have been checking it every day since; this morning is the first time that it gave me option to control this setting.

    5. Re:then what do they actually use? by phyphor · · Score: 1

      I've mentioned this before, but it is worth saying again - certain means of blocking ads (including, but not limited to, the FireFox add-on "AdBlock Pro") can stop that specific page from functioning properly.

  23. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why don't they say that, then? By wording it as blanket permission for "Appearance in Facebook Ads", it certainly carries an implication that you're giving them permission (opted in by default) to use your likeness in Facebook ads.

  24. Waitttt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can't legally do that, as I have used the app in Facebook that announces all of my content as Creative Commons licensed, and I chose a NON-commercial option when i did so, so Facebook is breaking the law, or the advertiser is, if my images are used.

  25. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by JustinOpinion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay. This is "better" in the sense that it is not Facebook itself exploiting user pictures. But it's still bothersome on some level. In particular it's bothersome that Facebook's default privacy rules make this possible. It seems that enabling an application gives that application near-limitless access to a person's account. It's all well and good that Facebook's policies forbid this, and that they've retroactively done something about it. But why was the access there in the first place?

    I do think users need to take some responsibility. They should be more careful about the text and photos they upload to some company's servers, and the applications they enable. But still it seems that Facebook is way too permissive with privacy and security settings, and that they are continually pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable with respect to advertising. For instance, why is it that when you go: SETTINGS > PRIVACY SETTINGS > NEWS FEEDS AND WALL, the "Appearance in Facebook Ads" is by default enabled. You need to manually turn it off. Yes it's up to users to manage their privacy settings, but having users continually being opted-in to these kinds of things (without any particular announcement, that I'm aware of) smacks of "let's see what we can get away with--and apologize only if we have to...".

  26. This was true yesterday, seems to be gone now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, this was being done yesterday. There was a setting to turn this off in privacy settings which has now disappeared. You can still see the tab for it by going to Privacy > Newsfeed and Wall > Facebook ads

    1. Re:This was true yesterday, seems to be gone now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Option is still there, but you'll need to turn off AdBlock Plus temporarily to actually see it. :)

  27. How did he come across the ad? by robi5 · · Score: 1

    Maybe he accidentally visited some dating sites... perhaps filled out some forms for curiosity... then the smart AI determined who his ideal match would be.

  28. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod up please. /. really should check snopes/company blogs before posting summaries like this... :-/

    CmdrTaco has made it very clear several times that he has no intention of having himself or the other *ahem* editors verify these kinds of things before posting them.

  29. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "... two entire advertising networks ..."

    Who are they and how big are they to merit "entire"?

  30. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snopes...Probably.
    Company blogs...really? I just don't see that as unbiased enough for a fair assessment of the situation*. Word-bandying is just too easy and too common. That's why lawyers cost $400/hr.

    Kind of like the Martians running around shooting people, with translator boxes saying "don't run, we are your friends!"

    *in general. TFS did not lead me to TFA, so in this particular instance I have no founded opinion**.

    **unfounded opinion:

    3-5 yrs ago: Hey I have this neat idea that people will love.

    1-2 yrs ago: Alrighty, we're mainstream, now we can have ads outside the normal banner format based on peoples freely and absentmindedly divulged personal info.

    6 mths ago: Well, our unsustainable growth in a market with very little tangible good and service is proving exactly that, especially as these tough economic times get tougher. However, our target percentages do not meet our horseshit expectations. Hey I have an idea...

    Yesterday: Crap.

    Today: We have not now or ever done anything, and this is all just speculation and innuendo. If the glove don't fit you must acquit.

    6 mths from now: We at MyTweetBook have over 30 years experience safegaurding your ... blah blah blah and have never such and such. Chocolate rations and whatnot.

    If they're doing this, they're assfaces. If not, that crappy rumor is only advertising for them.

  31. did everyone with a facebook account.... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    Did everyone with a facebook account not notice this months ago, or did they really think that their random facebook friends really did love using DirectMediComCo for their Viagra prescription?

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    1. Re:did everyone with a facebook account.... by Seumas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You see advertisements? Why aren't you using adblock like the rest of us?

      Until this whole ordeal, I didn't even realize Facebook *had* ads.

    2. Re:did everyone with a facebook account.... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

      because I consider the use of adblock to be immoral content theft.
      I just wish there was an ad-deprioritizer. I'd use that over an ad-blocker any day.

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    3. Re:did everyone with a facebook account.... by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Well, as someone who has run a site for about 80,000 members for more than a decade without accepting any advertising, I'm more than happy to have an ad-free internet. Not everything has to be "for bucks". It's okay to do something just because it's fun. You know, like thousands of sysops did for a couple decades with BBSes and the beginning of the web...?

      Oh well, I don't even know why I'm replying. You probably find Tivo immoral, too...

  32. Parent's not off-topic (spoiler alert) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    It's just an oblique reference to an oldie the moderator didn't know.

    Spoiler:

    The song speaks, in three verses and three choruses, of a man who, disenchanted with his current relationship, reads the personals and spots an ad that catches his attention: the ad of a woman who is seeking a man who, among other things, must like piña coladas. Intrigued, he writes back and arranges to meet with the woman "at a bar called O'Malley's", only to find upon the meeting that his new lover is his current lover. The song ends on an upbeat note, showing that the two lovers realized they have more in common than they suspected, and that they do not have to look any further than each other for what they seek in a relationship. This rekindles their relationship.

  33. what how quick they reverse course. by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

    facebook has a history of bowing to user pressures.

    They will reverse this within the week.

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  34. Re:Even the linked article claims they were mistak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's my only major complaint about facebook's privacy settings. Many things that should be by default disabled are not, and vice versa.

    Fixing it involves navigating countless obscure and convoluted menus, in a (usually) vain attempt to reach every single case.

  35. Facebook uses pictures without permission - Hah! by steelscalp · · Score: 1

    Since there is no room for any friends here in my basement, you will never find my profile or my picture on facebook!

  36. You can't tell me what to do! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to buy your product anyway just to prove that I don't have to do what you say! NANANANANANA. Na.

  37. Advertisers need to get permission to use photos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since when did facebook advertisers need anybody's permission?

    Every time I log into facebook, I'm greeted by "singles" ads with photos of famous pornstars and myspace girls. Surely, the advertisers don't have the copyright holder's permission to use those photos, do they?

  38. That stupid IQ test game by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1
    They use the faces of people who are in my FRIENDS LIST, and the whole thing is a cellphone scam, where you take the dopey IQ test, then to get your results, you have to give them the number to your cellphone which then gets billed (x) dollars. So, FUCK facebook and their excuses as to how they don't give pictures to 3rd parties. they don't INSOFAR as other people should not be able to use images for billboards etc. HOWEVER: if your advert is specifically within the facebook universe, they've got you.

    I turned off that option. the last thing I want are my baby pictures showing up as an advert for a swinging singles advert...

    RS

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  39. Re:Parent's not off-topic (spoiler alert) by palindrome · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it's like Babushka. That Kate Bush knew a lot about Facebook. That's why her name kinda rhymes with it.

  40. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Seumas · · Score: 1

    I ball BS on that, too.

    It doesn't say "Advertise your participation in Facebook groups and fan pages", it says "Appearance in FACEBOOK ADS".

  41. bustedpartysluts.com by Brother+Seamus · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...what if you go for a job and they recognise you from a site you have nothing to do with called bustedpartysluts.com?

    If I recognize an applicant from bustedpartysluts.com, she's almost certainly going to be hired.

  42. Example: Anonymous Coward got 150 on our IQ test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think what facebook has the settings options to opt out of advertisements for things like "Anonymous Coward got 150 on our IQ test, think you can beat them?"

    We've all seen these advertisements on our pages, I have even seen my picture and name appear on a friends facebook, I was confused as I never took an IQ test on facebook.

    So when they let you know that your likeness and name might be used to personalize the experience of you and your friends in third party advertisements this is what it means, not that 3rd party advertisers will be stealing your pic and sending it out to everone on facebook, just to those you have listed as friends.

  43. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by budgenator · · Score: 1

    I'm not on facebook but I'd assume that there is a big difference between "[insert pic] is the 10 millionth Facebook user" and "[insert pic] hook up with hot singles at sleazey.easy.example.com"; and most reasonable people would assume the first example is what they were referring to not the second.

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  44. Re:Unfounded rumor - more background by rs79 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://rs79.vrx.net/.oops/yixe/

    Here's where I found my face on an ad on slashdot in late may. Using liknesses for commercial purposes requires a model release and this is actionable. Anybody feel like doing a class action?

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  45. Oh yeah. by gigabites2 · · Score: 2, Funny
    From TFA

    ... it means that your married face could end up on a sexy singles ad...

    Where do I sign?

  46. Related by shish · · Score: 1

    Somewhat worrying is that on a site completely unrelated to facebook (osdir, some random mailing list archive google pointed me to), I saw an ad mentioning the name and photo that I use, inviting me to "zoosk" whatever that is -- I'm quite aware that my name and a photo (not actually of me) are visible in all sorts of public listings and search results, but I'm somewhat confused as to how an advertising network is matching facebook accounts to IP addresses (a legal query as much as a technical one)...

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  47. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by prichardson · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wow.. way to rake in the Karma there :-P.

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  48. Honey? by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "What is your photo doing on an on-line dating site?"

    "Honey. What ate you doing looking through on-line dating sites?"

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  49. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up!

  50. What has been seen cannot be unseen. by mrmeval · · Score: 2, Informative
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    1. Re:What has been seen cannot be unseen. by rleibman · · Score: 1

      Please, give me back my two hours!

  51. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by zuperduperman · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is the real problem with Facebook. They've cleverly engineered a system which *allows* you to control your privacy but then seduces or fools you into giving it up by making settings so obtuse, difficult to find and anticipate that almost nobody successfully does.

    Example: I thought I had my facebook settings locked down pretty good. I turned off access of just about everything to anybody except direct friends. A few months later, my birthday comes around and all my friends start sending me happy birthday messages via Facebook! Turns out, there is / was a completely different location for the control of your birth date privacy. Not only did my friends see my birthday, but half of them had installed some kind of 'notify about your friends birthday' application so my birth date (something used commonly as security verification data) was now spread into some unknown number of 3rd party applications around the globe. There is basically no way to know now who on the planet might have gathered my birth date, be correlating it with other data and on selling it for the purposes of identity theft. It's just one small example, but this is everywhere in Facebook.

  52. What do you mean, "ads"? by RobVB · · Score: 1

    I thought over 99% of websites stopped showing advertisement banners and flashy flash movies with annoying sounds a couple of years ago... around the time I started using AdBlock...

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  53. This really isn't new news... by LunarStudio · · Score: 1

    I really don't understand how something crops up like this. Yeah, I've seen the message going around but anyone that has been a subscriber knows that this has been the case for almost a year now. That is of course unless they've been living in a cave or under a rock...

    1. Re:This really isn't new news... by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Or using adblock, like anyone with a brain should be doing to begin with.

  54. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by OnlyPostsWhilstDrunk · · Score: 1

    I'd just like to point out here that I've never been a member of facebook, but I've seen more than one slightly humiliating picture of myself in a completely drunken (but conscious) state. One was on someone's page who I knew in real life, the other I did not know at all. Where does that put me?

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  55. Re:Hey mods! READ THIS. 911 EMERGENCY. NYC under a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Link is a GNAA "attack" site. I haven't bothered to look more into it, but enter at own risk!

  56. Re:Even the linked article claims they were mistak by uofitorn · · Score: 1

    What is this RUBBISH that you write?

    Dare you question the irresponsiby edited melodramatic flame bait that is the unyielding word of kdawson? Futile heathen.

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  57. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

    /. really should check snopes/company blogs before posting summaries like this... :-/

    What is this "/." of which you speak? You're obviously not talking about the site where we're posting right now.

  58. Re:Even the linked article claims they were mistak by Infoport · · Score: 1

    The page (& link) for Settings>Privacy>News Feeds and Wall>Facebook Ads now has NO OPTIONS. It is currently empty, perhaps because of all the upset customers.

    I try to keep all of my info private, although I have started to use Facebook to connect with friends & old classmates. This is for the general paranoia of personal data, even though I don't use such simple things as passwords or recovery passwords. Still, I have experience with people's credit card information (inc purchases and purchase locations) and unlisted cell phone numbers being compromised by "social engineering", by ex-wife, friends, etc, without even the claim that they were the person themselves-- just as a "knowledgeable" friends or supposed spouse.

    The fact that the privacy settings are by default ALLOWED, and may be kept by any application or advertiser who already has it (and that transfer may happen in an instant) still remains very troubling.

  59. Snopes by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

    As always, XKCD has the answer.

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  60. just like that other story by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

    Remember that other slashdot story recently where a couple was on vacation in some Asian country and saw their friends' christmas card photo on a huge printed banner in a store window. The people designing the ad apparently just looked for a nice looking couple online, found the pic on a blog, and tada, they're 10 feet wide, on a store, in korea or something. THAT is exactly what people don't want happening in digital or printed format. It's just creepy knowing your image is being used to sell something somewhere and you don't even know about it. They could put you on an erectile dysfunction ad for all you know. What were these moron execs thinking?!

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  61. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by SheeEttin · · Score: 1

    half of them had installed some kind of 'notify about your friends birthday' application

    I believe birthday notifications are part of the Events application, which comes as part of a new account.

  62. Re:Even the linked article claims they were mistak by Vetala · · Score: 1

    The page (& link) for Settings>Privacy>News Feeds and Wall>Facebook Ads now has NO OPTIONS. It is currently empty, perhaps because of all the upset customers.

    I still see an option when I just checked now, so either it's back or maybe you have some plugin that's hiding it? I've heard ad/script blocking plugins might hide some options (haven't confirmed that myself though), and I know one person who hid some Facebook stuff via Stylish and if I heard him right had to disable some of the style mods in order to see the Terms of Service later - so if you've tried to hide some things (like annoying ads, or pictures that are cluttering up the home page) other stuff may be caught in the crossfire.

  63. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by All_One_Mind · · Score: 1

    Maybe Slashdot should. Still, it is an attention grabbing headline, and /. users will do the fact checking for them anyway, so why bother? Plus, fact checking takes time and effort. Hitting the "approve" button is far easier.

  64. Lie about birthdays. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    This is why I always lie about date of birth on website applications. I chose July 20, 1969 because it is easy to remember. Although it might seem suspicious to use the date of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the fact is that some fair number of people were born that day, as with any other day. It's close enough to the right date that I'm not really misleading anyone about my age to a degree that makes a difference. A year and change just doesn't matter all that much once you get past your early 20's.

    This of course meant I got a bunch of automated greetings on Monday, but all that did was serve to remind me why I did it in the first place.

    Mal-2

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    1. Re:Lie about birthdays. by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

      Keep talking... I've already narrowed your date of birth down to 120 possible days. Say, were you born on a weekend?

  65. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod this parent up also so as to attract more attention to the necessity of modding of the parent of the parent.

  66. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

    On Facebook. Clearly.

  67. Re:Unfounded rumor - more background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't you notice that it referred to Richard (I assume that's you) as "you", the user viewing the ad? Most likely a cookie from an ad on Facebook was connected to an ad on Slashdot (or maybe it just guessed most viewers of the ad visited Facebook), so it pulled your FB profile pic from your browser's cache and plugged it in to the frame.

    Don't flatter yourself, it isn't like they went trawling FB profiles, took a bunch of people's photos, and passed it off as their own.

    Is a banner ad using data from your cache "actionable"? An unauthorized access of your computer network? Or are you just trolling?

  68. Re:Hey mods! READ THIS. 911 EMERGENCY. NYC under a by TerranFury · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Indeed. Don't click the link in grandparent's post! Morbid curiosity inspired me to do so, and I regret it, as for the first time in a very long while a website did things which made me seriously reconsider Firefox's security. I should have heeded AC's warning -- or at least disabled Javascript.

    For instance, somehow this website even manages to get Firefox to spawn Internet Explorer windows, and Windows mail (to check some newsgroup). Does Firefox have some really stupid URL handlers enabled by default? I had been reasonably sure I'd disabled this kind of crap in about:config (doublechecks... yeah, looks ok...). If that's true then Firefox out of the box is only as secure as the worst application it uses to handle any kind of URL. And as Internet Explorer now seems to be one of them, that would make Firefox no more secure than Internet Explorer. A frightening thought! So what's going on?

  69. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And by unfounded, you just mean they've already issued the damage control? Shocking!

  70. Re:Unfounded rumor - more background by rs79 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting guess but I don't think so. One of the other 4 poeple is somebody I know, the other two I'd never seen before. That had to have come from the adserver. I'm guessing they all did.

    I know what I agreed to when I clicked the thinger in facebook. You show me where is says personal likeness in commercial conduct is authorized.

    Oh yeah, Jenine is Nat Torkington's wife. She's pissed. And she's not somebody you want pissed at you.

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  71. Re:Even the linked article claims they were mistak by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

    I can confirm this. I was seeing no options on this particular page (even though the rest of the pages displayed fine). After disabling AdBlock Plus, the page showed up properly.

  72. My new Facebook group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just created a group on facebook called, "Facebook, Please don't sell my photos to your advertisers!"

    If you're on facebook please join.

    1. Re:My new Facebook group by yahwotqa · · Score: 1

      Wow. The world's privacy is saved. Now on to create a "Cancer has a 100% success cure" group.

  73. Re:Unfounded rumor - more background by mpe · · Score: 1

    Here's where I found my face on an ad on slashdot in late may. Using liknesses for commercial purposes requires a model release and this is actionable. Anybody feel like doing a class action?

    Wouldn't a DMCA takedown notice be easier and quicker :)

  74. Oh, you obviously didn't check Google then.. by cheros · · Score: 1

    I think it would be a bit unfair singling out Facebook without highlighting another major offender in that category. You really ought to spend some time reading Terms of Service because they can contain the most horrendous rubbish.

    Let me show you a bit of text from the Google Terms of Service that more or less appropriates *anything* you post. It's not that they claim copyright (they acknowledge that, probably because there's no legal way around it), but see what you make of this:
     

    11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

    11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organisations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

     
    IANAL, but as far as I can tell this means in layman's terms "it's yours, but we'll use it any way we damn well please, including and not limited to handing your content to anyone else who pays us enough for it".
     
    Keep in mind that this is the general license to all Google services, as far as I know this governs your use of email, Google docs, Picasa web albums - in principle they have turned their services into a sort of private version of iStockphoto where they can just take and use ANYTHING published without as much as acknowledging it - let alone pay for it.
     
    That they haven't done so yet is either a function of them not needing to do it - or we haven't discovered it yet. But the door is wide open due to the Terms of Service their users accepted.
     
    Now, do you still feel like keeping all your holiday snaps online?

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  75. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "but this is everywhere in Facebook^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H." There. Fixed it for you...

  76. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by neonsignal · · Score: 1

    Is this the same facebook that has third party ads that incorporate my exact age?

    Just coincidence...

  77. The right way for Facebook to do this... by Presence1 · · Score: 1

    The right way for Facebook to do this would have been for them to implement this with a payments system, and obviously, opt-in, instead of in by default and opt-out.

    The advertisers should be paying for the use of the photos. The settings should be [Unavailable], and [Available / Price per View], with the price per view set by the user. The setting should be both for the full set of pics, with individual overrides for specific pics (e.g., pics that the user doesn't want used, or wants to set a higher or lower price). Obviously, better pics should command higher prices, and cheaper pics might get used more, and users wanting only fame could set the price to zero.

    If properly implemented with accounting and logs (views, display, clicks, earnings, etc.), they'd actually be doing something respectable, instead of just pimping out all their user's property without their permission.

    They also seem to have completely overlooked the issue of model's releases, which their vague TOS docs don't really cover. Of course, a good ecommerce/micropayments implementation would cover it properly as in if you set it to available.

  78. Re:Hey mods! READ THIS. 911 EMERGENCY. NYC under a by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

    Did you disable or uninstall the Microsoft add-on? I forget the name of it at the moment, but there is a Microsoft add-on installed into Firefox from a recent patch that basically makes Firefox as insecure as IE is. You have to disable (or if using 3.5, uninstall) the add on to get your security back.

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  79. Re:Hey mods! READ THIS. 911 EMERGENCY. NYC under a by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

    Ok, found the link to it on Slashdot. HERE it is.

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  80. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by makomk · · Score: 1

    It seems that enabling an application gives that application near-limitless access to a person's account.

    Not just that, but also quite a lot of access to all their friends' personal details too. I think there may be settings somewhere that can be used to restrict this, but as zuperduperman says, there are so many settings and they're so hard to track down that locking down your personal details effectively is a huge pain. (Plus, every time they add a new feature, you have to go lock that down too. It's not just set and forget.)

  81. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Khyber · · Score: 1

    If they didn't change anything why is it that suddenly I can't disable jack shit on the FaceBook Ads tab? It's totally blank. No menus, no selection boxes, NOTHING.

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  82. AHAHAHAHAHAHHA by GuloGulo2 · · Score: 0

    I'm getting real tired of this attitude. My generation isn't stupid. They know what they're doing -- they're creating a transparent society where we can all be a bit more polite to one another because everyone has dirt on everyone else, and because we want to put ourselves out there and make friends, rather than dying alone in some castle with all our toys like the boomers are right now, because they wanted their precious privacy.

    No, they don't.

    But I like your rationalizations, they sound like the kind of stupidity that would go over well in a smoke filled dorm room.

  83. Billed to a Cell Phone number? Someone explain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea I have one of these prepaid portable payphone's from "Poser-F" otherwise known as a TracFone. How does that billing system work on such prepaid things that I own? Do they measure a dollar value to an equivalent number of my minutes and just siphon that off? If I get a bill say, that exceeds the number of remaining minutes on my phone, then does that put my phone on the negative minute mark so just like in Diablo-1 my phone is invulnerable to enemy attacks as long as they don't use the Heal Other spell?

    Or is sending a bill to a Cell Phone account number just another panzy scheme of private-process extortion like how PayPal allegedly sends money through an eMail address and they've evaded prosecution since the 90's on that?

    Thanks for the help.

    Sincerily,
      Nick Gerr

  84. Re:Billed to a Cell Phone number? Someone explain? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1

    No idea how it works. All I know is that it is evil Evil EVIL!!!

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  85. Old news is Old by Mr+Pleco · · Score: 1

    I seem to remember this "feature" having been around for several months now, it was released the same time they were testing product placements based on the clothing you were wearing in your profile picture. The example I saw was of a guy who was wearing a particular style of sunglasses in his profile picture, and on the advertisements on his profile page you saw an advertisement for similar sunglasses. Just because some morons are spreading viral status updates doesn't mean it's recent by any means.

  86. Re:Even the linked article claims they were mistak by Infoport · · Score: 1

    oops! You are quite right-- AdBlock Plus was blocking display of that option for some reason.

    When I disabled the add-on, the option was visible (with "No One" previously selected)

  87. How do you mod down the OP? by Zenin · · Score: 1

    I have Moderator points: How do I use them to mod down the original story for being invalid, kneejerk, flamebait?

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    1. Re:How do you mod down the OP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't. Mod points apply to comments only, not articles.

  88. It is pitch black by AlpineR · · Score: 1

    A grue?

  89. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by phyphor · · Score: 1

    Are you using FireFox?
    Are you using AdBlock Plus with the default filter?

    If so, then that'll be why. If not, I suspect it will be a similar filter, somewhere, causing it.

  90. However... by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 1

    There's a difference in the law between granting a copyright license over a work (a "license agreement") and authorizing the use of one's identifiable likeness for advertising (a "model release"). The one does not imply the other; if I take a photo of you I have the copyright to that photo and have the right to license it to others, but nobody has any automatic right to use your recognizable likeness in that photo to advertise that product. The advertiser must secure both copyright and a model release. (If the licensee is a newspaper using it for reporting or editorial purposes, then it's another story.)

    Of course, all this means really is that OP quoted the wrong section of the license agreement:

    You can use your privacy settings to limit how your name and profile picture may be associated with commercial or sponsored content. You give us permission to use your name and profile picture in connection with that content, subject to the limits you place.

    In short: you grant them a copyright license to any pictures you upload, which allows them to sublicense to any associates of their. You also grant them, given certain profile settings, a model release to your profile picture, that allows them to use your name and profile picture to advertise any of their partners' products.

  91. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So don't use it? There is exactly 1 deactivate button.

  92. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is basically no way to know now who on the planet might have gathered my birth date

    why did you give it to facebook in the first place?

  93. Re:Unfounded rumor - Read the official facebook bl by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

    A few months later, my birthday comes around and all my friends start sending me happy birthday messages via Facebook! Turns out, there is / was a completely different location for the control of your birth date privacy. Not only did my friends see my birthday, but half of them had installed some kind of 'notify about your friends birthday' application so my birth date (something used commonly as security verification data) was now spread into some unknown number of 3rd party applications around the globe.

    Those bastards! I can only think of a few hundred thousand people - including everyone in my family, everyone I went to school with, everyone at my job, and everyone who read the newspaper one day when my friends thought it'd be funny to take out a "happy birthday ad" - who might know that private and compromising information about me.

    Listen, I'm about as unlikely to give hand out personal information as the next paranoid, but your birthday? Even I can't work up the righteous indignation to be bothered by that.

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