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Microsoft and Yahoo Reach Deal
e9th writes "We know that Microsoft failed last February in its attempt to buy Yahoo. Now, Advertising Age reports that they've reached a deal. Instead of a buyout, the two will enter into a revenue sharing agreement, and Bing will become Yahoo's default search engine. The meat of the AdAge article can be found in Yahoo News. This deal may give Google something to worry about."
BRB, cancelling my Yahoo! account.
It said 0 results found.
Yahoo search was useless anyway, so having bing won't change anything for me. It will give them great insight into how people use yahoo's web site though, which will probably allow MSN to poach yahoo users.
"He's lost in a 'floyd hole"
Yeah.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Bing will become Yahoo's default search engine.
I think I just cried a little...
Cobbling together 2 inferior technologies doesn't give you a superior one. I don't really think Google has anything to worry about. Kindly take your rabble rousing elsewhere.
I am, and that is sufficient.
including Google.
This is why we don't allow cousins to marry...
What strange mutations/recessive genes are we going to see sprout out of all this coupling???
But two trains traveling a break-neck speeds towards each other with no sign of stopping makes me feel like throwing some popcorn in the microwave.
I switched from Google to Yahoo! search recently because Yahoo! promised to discard user search data after 3 months. I'm guessing that the switch to Bing negates that promise, so what search engine(s) are left that are both useful & ethical?
Yahcrsoft or Microhoo!? Which name are they going with?
Or Yahsoft? Or Microshoo?
Binghoosoft?
Anyone?
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Now how to explain this to Grandma with out her looking at me more stranger than usual. Hmm.
If that's true, it missed the antitrust investigation against them.
Most people don't "avoid" Bing (except maybe people like on slashdot, which aren't a consumer majority, by a longshot). People do not use Bing because most people have already used Yahoo! and Google for years, most people won't know the difference that much except maybe "hmm it looks a little bit different". If Bing's engine is better than Yahoo!'s, then maybe people will stay with Yahoo! even longer - well, as long as Yahoo can survive that is.
Some people here are saying that the quality of Bing results is comparable to Google's results in many cases. If we assume that's true, then Yahoo will become exactly like it was several years ago when it was using Google. As a Yahoo service, it'll still be covered in crap, and all that'll do is make people go to Bing, like Yahoo's use of Google lead to folks to use Google ("it's like Yahoo's search, but not crap!"). That'll work wonders for Yahoo. Again.
I searched "Google antitrust investigation" and it returned this image
Bing isn't really better than Yahoo's search it is? What's more, what about foreign-language searching? Yahoo is the only search engine that has spent significant resources improving their Japanese search results, for example. (Google is beginning to do this, but their search results still suck badly.) I imagine Bing would be a big step backward for most people outside the U.S.
He who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.
Have you used Bing? It kind of sucks. I can only hope it gets better but I don't know - lots of people complain it won't index their websites although I've had no trouble in that area.
Or maybe I just search for things it isn't good at - things I want to buy and documentation mostly. The most amusing was the other day when I tried looking up information about Bing's spiders (that behave oddly - not always following robots.txt and changing their user agent to look like IE). Couldn't find a thing on Bing but Google found it right away. Conspiracy to hide the information or suckage?
That's another interesting point. Why is Bing hitting my site again and again and making it look like real users using simple one word searches but all from the Bing IP block? When I try to use the same searches to find the same pages I don't see my site come up. Hmmm. Either way it's easier for webmasters if everyone just licenses one or two major search engines (Google and Bing) so that you only have to optimize your content to be listed high on them. It's hard when they all work different and sometimes in conflicting ways.
At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
They got slashdotted.
Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
What do you mean "has gone by the wayside"? Could you specify what in the world you're talking about?
Could you please elaborate where Google has "Done More Evil". People questioned the privacy of their searches and they have since stated their privacy terms clearly (years ago). Google has advocated more open format and open source solutions backed with real money and development. They lobby for net neutrality and open access. I really don't see how they are doing evil.
People have to get used to the idea that if you type information into a website, that website has that information. It's pretty straight forward and there is no way around it. Even if they state they they will delete it, you can't verify that they have and should treat it as such. If you want to remain untrackable from any service, you have to use a proxy; end of story. PS. There isn't a shred of evidence that Google doesn't abide by their terms of service.
Without a specific grievance, it sounds like you are just rebelling against the popular and successful to make yourself feel special.
You gotta love the Yahoo, if for no other reason than Zimbra. More than any other piece of software, it's the "Exchange Killer" that we've all wondered about. It matches, feature-for-feature, Exchange. It's (mostly) open-source. It runs fine on Linux. It works with Windows, Mac, Linux, KDE, Google Calendars/Email, and just about everything else, including my WinMo phone.
It's a god-send, it works nicely with basically no fuss or hassle, and it's owned by Yahoo.
Hey, if Yahoo goes belly up, I just hope they sell Zimbra to somebody who can take the good thing handed to them and DO SOMETHING with it!?!?
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
Open Firefox in your 30 inch presentation monitors. Let it open 2 windows and put them next to each other on desktop both showing same time.
Now, open these addresses.
http://adwords.google.com/
http://advertising.yahoo.com/ (I don't even KNOW live.com advertising url)
Act like you are a little company wanting to advertise your product and compare them, especially international language support.
I don't like Google, its policies etc. but there is a fact that they don't have competitor at all. Not because they send a secret signal to advertiser brains, their advertising system is way better that is all.
Want to compete? My nr1 suggestion would be "quality control" of ads. Give users chance to click "spam" in advertising or some sort of "thumbs down" scheme, use the already included MCafee siteadvisor for ads etc. E.g. there is no way to prevent Scientology advertising attack on Slashdot. If there was a tiny button like "spam" or "off topic", I would click it and have the really mattering ads show. It is not something can be done by Google or Slashdot.
For a long time, I don't click to software "want to download ...., click here?" ads too. I don't trust them, I go to site itself or a trusted, edited download site. That is where my "mcafee siteadvisor" idea comes from.
Bing is actually decent, as a first "serious" attempt at taking on Google. The search results are not as good as Google's (then again, Google's have been going gradually down, too), but it has a lot of nice features to allow you to filter and narrow down common types of searches, like restaurant searches by price, or finding good stores to buy something.
The drawback? If you're anywhere except the US, then it sucks. Hard. Search results are awfully bad, and all the nifty features that makes it different from Google are gone. I almost suspect that for non-US countries, Bing is just a skin over Windows Live Search, because its really night and day compared to US Bing.
End result: if you're in the US, give it a shot...regular search won't be as good, but many types of searches will have tools to assist you, bringing it up a notch. If you're not in the US, don't even try.
We don't take kindly to frenchies round these here parts,
Just like you get Google by default on the Safari search bar on Mac. Whereas on IE8, you can easily change it to whatever by a simple click, on Safari there is no such option.
Yeah, but if you were searching for the bacteria testing kit Google would have failed. Where as yahoo and bing returned both.
Lol, so now the search engine is magically supposed to read your mind?
Besides... I have never heard of bugcheck ever being associated with BSOD. First I've heard of it. Probably because it isn't a WELL KNOWN link.
Seriously, if you prefer google's results, then stick with google. But don't try to peddle some useless "proof" that google's results are better.
This isn't a troll. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it a troll.
On another note what is with all these stupid names Microsoft has been giving their search engines these days? I guess all you guys who talk about how stupid FOSS project names are, are going to keep mum on Bing (soon to be named Bukkake or something another).
This is an especially good point here. First "LiveSearch" and now "Bing", and of course "Zune", what is with the people at Microsoft and naming things? The company is schizophrenic; on the Windows side, they have a bunch of products with completely boring, highly generic names like "Windows", "Office", "Internet Explorer", "Word", etc. And then they have a bunch of off-the-wall WTF names like "Bing" and "Zune". And MS fanbois have the gall to make fun of Linux apps for weird names?