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Prototype Vehicle For the Blind

An anonymous reader writes "A student team from Virginia Tech Robotics and Mechanisms Laboratory have created a vehicle which allows the blind to drive. The vehicle uses a laser range finder to determine distances and alerts the driver through voice commands and vibration. Tomorrow [Friday] morning, the vehicle will have its first public test drive at the University of Maryland. At last, Braille on drive-up ATMs may finally be vindicated."

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  1. first to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I didn't see this one coming.

    1. Re:first to say by ls671 · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Braille on drive-up ATMs may finally be vindicated.

      The above had me laughing quite a bit... ;-)

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    2. Re:first to say by GarryFre · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A dead battery and suddenly all is "Dark"! I liked that vindicated braille comment too. Considering the dubious quality of some folk's driving it could be a future historical irony for them to find that blind drivers in these cars are safer drivers than sighted drivers.

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  2. What, what? by flydpnkrtn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Had to dust off the ol' "whatcouldpossiblygowrong" tag for this one...

    1. Re:What, what? by Anonymous+CowHardon · · Score: 5, Funny

      How are they going to know when I flip them the bird? Do I have to make chirping noises?

    2. Re:What, what? by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny

      I swear, officer, I didn't see him.

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  3. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Will be interesting to see how they vehicle interfaces with the traffic lights system... What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:Hmm... by istartedi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that'd be the easy part. A camera with Image processing for lane alignment and the same image every time. The lane alignment was actually my senior thesis--in 1993. It was just software, and I only tested it with one test set, so I have no idea how reliable it would have been. It was nowhere near real time either. I had no access to digital video. I had to rely on one test set, and I have no idea how they got the digitized frames. I imagine the reliability of the image processing has advanced; but I know the cost of digital capture devices has certainly come way down.

      At present, I tend to share the "what could possibly go wrong" sentiment; but at some point in the future we may find automated systems to be more reliable than humans. Before we put it on cars though, we should get it working on trains. In theory, that's an easier problem; but we still have problems with automated trains.

      I don't have data to back it up; but it seems like more train accidents are happening in manual mode now. In particular, an Amtrak accident last year (operator texting) and a recent San Francisco muni crash (operator had put train in manual). The last time I recall hearing about a train accident in automatic was on DC's metro system. It was during a snowstorm. IIRC, The operator was attempting to put the train in manual, but the system wouldn't allow it.. It was out of service, and the operator was the only fatality. That was in 1996 though.

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    2. Re:Hmm... by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I really do not understand the point. If one can make a feedback system capable of effectively and intelligently guiding a blind person it wouldn't be necessary... Just make the car capable of driving itself. A sighted person has a hard enough time interpreting and reacting to evolving situations around them. Responding to vibrations and voice alerts is most certainly slower.

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  4. Braille ATMs by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Always a good idea. You're in a taxi, and need some cash. Do you give the driver your card and the PIN and hope he doesn't rip you off? I think not.

    Blind drivers? Not such a good idea. Better to let the car (or some other human) drive it.

    1. Re:Braille ATMs by Jared555 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That and the companies that own them probably don't want to provide parking.

    2. Re:Braille ATMs by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It has nothing to do with laziness and everything to do with the way this country is structured. With a few exceptions (New York City, San Francisco and a couple of other cities), the U.S. is very spread out, even in urban areas. It can be several miles to the nearest bank and that can be in the opposite direction of the supermarket. There are also places like certain shopping malls which are nearly impossible to access on foot. Our public transportation systems are woefully inadequate as well, making a car pretty essential for most people in the United States. On top of all of this, some bank branches don't have any ATMs other than the drive-up window.

    3. Re:Braille ATMs by Cryacin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Drive up ATMs??? My god you Americans are lazy.

      Yeah... what's next? Drive through gyms?

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  5. Even the blind... by GhostGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even the blind can see that this is a bad idea. And they don't need voice commands and vibrations to do it.

    1. Re:Even the blind... by Alarindris · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even the blind can see that this is a bad idea.

      No, they can't.

  6. holy crap by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope they never allow these things on public roads with blind drivers. Handicapped accesibility is good and all but we shouldn't risk handicapping more people for it. Seriously, the driving is dangerous enough with a bunch of idiots who can see just fine.

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    1. Re:holy crap by wizardforce · · Score: 2

      You know this may be one of those cases where incomplete AI could have use. This system alloys the blind to do most of the hard computation and the AI simply analyzes the situation and only acts to prevent certain disaster. It assists the driver instead of taking over the driving.

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  7. All good, but... by heretic108 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...the driver had better concentrate on the guidance system and not be distracted by any scent of a woman.

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    1. Re:All good, but... by Jared555 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Think how talking on a cellphone would end

  8. Blind people are already driving.... by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

    ....in my neighbourhood. That and/or terminally stupid. What else would you call not stopping for a red light at a busy intersection?

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    1. Re:Blind people are already driving.... by Amouth · · Score: 4, Funny

      natural selection - making an attempt.

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  9. Infrastructure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So now we can all stop asking why the drive up ATM's have braille and audio out! Now that's planning ahead!

  10. OT: A Word on Braille on Drive-up ATMs by prichardson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Q: What's the only thing more moronic than having braille on a drive-up ATM?

    A: Manufacturing two different keypads when one does just fine and incurring the costs to do so.

    In other words, having braille on all ATMs doesn't hurt anyone, even if it's an ATM that would be otherwise impractical for a visually impaired person.

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    1. Re:OT: A Word on Braille on Drive-up ATMs by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because stairs are less practical for able bodied people than stairs. Can't say the same about braille ATMs.

  11. Other applications by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it works for a go-kart it could work for a motorized wheelchair. Lots of people with cerebral palsy also have sensory impairments. The sensors and software have the potential to increase the independence of a lot of people.

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  12. Cyclists Go Squish? by VaticDart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For some reason, as someone who gets around almost entirely by bicycle, this seems like an incredibly bad idea to me.

  13. Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    SUVs have been around for years.

  14. but by RuBLed · · Score: 4, Funny

    you can feel it from a mile away.

  15. The reason for braille on drive-up ATMs by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 4, Informative

    People cite braille on drive-up ATMs as political correctness gone crazy or the ludicrousness of government regulation, but the real reason that there is braille on drive-up ATMs is that it's not cost-effective to make two sets of ATM machines, one with braille and one without, especially since the braille has absolutely no effect on the way the machine functions. A second, braille-free model would just be for cosmetic reasons.

    1. Re:The reason for braille on drive-up ATMs by Kenja · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Then explain why banks are required BY LAW, to replace perfectly good drive up ATMs with brail versions?

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    2. Re:The reason for braille on drive-up ATMs by SignOfZeta · · Score: 2, Informative

      [...] ATM machines [...]

      I knew someone would do this. You bring up ATM machines, PIN numbers, and the HIV virus, and acronyms get no respect.

    3. Re:The reason for braille on drive-up ATMs by Mal-2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People cite braille on drive-up ATMs as political correctness gone crazy or the ludicrousness of government regulation, but the real reason that there is braille on drive-up ATMs is that it's not cost-effective to make two sets of ATM machines, one with braille and one without, especially since the braille has absolutely no effect on the way the machine functions. A second, braille-free model would just be for cosmetic reasons.

      Beyond that, there is always the possibility of a car rolling up with a blind passenger in the BACK, who may wish to operate the ATM unassisted. It must be bad enough never getting to drive... though that seems to be another barrier falling.

      I have heard that Ray Charles liked to ride a motorcycle by following someone else and just listening to where they went and what noises their bike was making. (Needless to say, this requires a cooperative lead rider.) Then Mythbusters did the "blind drunk" driving test and found that a blind person can follow directions and drive passably. Maybe this is not so far-fetched. Still, if we can make a machine smart enough to instruct a person how to drive, why can't we just let the machine drive?

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    4. Re:The reason for braille on drive-up ATMs by SignOfZeta · · Score: 2, Funny

      We already have a pi number, though. It's a little more than three.

  16. Re:smoke and mirrors... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you have sources, or are you just making assumptions based on the fact it's using a laser. It seems to me with mirrors existing as part of any car on the road, they just /might/ have thought of this one.

  17. Virginia Tech? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 3, Funny

    Weren't they supposed to develop a gun for blind shooters first?

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  18. Next idea by marjancek · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think this is great. Now, I hope they create something women will be able to drive.

  19. In all seriousness... by oljanx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We're really good at filtering and rapidly processing large amounts of visual information. Can six lanes of rush hour traffic on icy roads be communicated through a combination of sound and touch? I'd guess not, but I may be wrong.

  20. We've had these for ages... by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 2, Informative

    Theyre called taxis...

  21. Objects in the rear view mirror... by porter235 · · Score: 5, Funny

    may be closer than they feel.

  22. Re:smoke and mirrors... by AI0867 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't worry! We have recently invented a vehicle that allows you to drive without sight!

  23. Nice thought, I suppose by mea37 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, I'm blind. I use that term in the sense the NFB uses it (or at least did last time I heard) - non-correctable vision impairment that affects day-to-day life. It is also correct to say I'm legally blind, though not totally blind.

    And, I live in a part of the U.S. where inability to drive is a serious hinderance. (That doesn't narrow things down much.)

    But I have to say, I think this idea is... well... misguided. I agree with the end goal (better independent mobility for the blind), but the approach is all wrong. It may be that TFA isn't giving a full sense of how this works, and certainly even what they've described is an amazing technological acheivement; but the real problems of a blind driver are orders of magnitude more complex.

    Dealing with lane alginment, spotting intersections, parking challenges... those could be handled with an infrastructure investment to make "smart roads" that can talk to the car.

    How will the laser range-finder fair with bicycles? Kids running across the road? A wheel, matress, or other random piece of junk that fell off another vehicle? The unexpected?

    What happens when all of this active sensing equipment fails for some reason?

    By the time you invest enough to solve all of these problems, you could have the car drive itself. I don't see this as a useful "intermediate step" in that direction, as someone else suggested, because the human interface is a more complex challenge than the automated intelligence it replaces - which is why there have already been robots that can drive on a closed track.

    In truth, I think it's a sloppy American attitude to think that autonomous living is predicated on driving your own car. The fact that most Americans don't use public trnasportation, along with the resulting low quality of American public transportation (on average), makes the idea of a blind person using public transportation stand out in America as a disparity.

    In other words, I don't think we should try to shoehorn blind drivers into the American transportation infrastructure; I think we should build an infrastructure that supports everyone.

  24. Re:smoke and mirrors... by infinite9 · · Score: 2, Funny

    All the street signs can be encoded in braille in the reflective dots between the lanes. They can just open the door and run their fingers on the ground while they drive.

    Maybe it will help them to stay in their lane too.

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