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Dad Builds 700 Pound Cannon for Son's Birthday

Hugh Pickens writes "The Charleston Daily Mail reports that machinist Mike Daugherty built his son a working cannon for his birthday — not a model — a real working cannon. 'It looks like something right out of the battle at Gettysburg,' says Daugherty. The 700 pound cast iron and steel howitzer, designed to use comparatively small explosive charges to propel projectiles at relatively high trajectories with a steep angle of descent, has a 4-inch gun barrel that is 36 inches long mounted on a wooden gun carriage with two 36- inch diameter wheels and took Daugherty about two weeks to build at a cost of about $6,000. 'I've always been interested in the Civil War and cannons, so I thought it would be a good gift,' says Daugherty's 11-year old son Logan. Daugherty said he is not worried about the federal government coming to get his son's cannon because he spoke to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and found it is legal to own such a cannon because it does not use a firing pin and is muzzle loaded so the government does not consider the weapon a threat. Two days after the family celebrated Logan's 11th birthday, father and son offered a field demonstration of the new cannon on top of a grassy hill overlooking Fairmont, West Virginia and on the third try, the blank inside the barrel went boom and a cannon was born. For a followup they popped a golf ball into the gun barrel, lit the fuse, and watched the golf ball split the sky and land about 600 yards away. 'Any rebels charging up this hill would be in trouble with a cannon like this at the top,' Logan says."

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  1. Perfectly Legal by savanik · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...it is legal to own such a cannon because it does not use a firing pin and is muzzle loaded so the government does not consider the weapon a threat.

    He then continued to say, "Also, I use it to hunt deer."

    1. Re:Perfectly Legal by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you can hunt deer with a 4" cannon, more power to you. Most deer in West Virginia are killed by SUVs.

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    2. Re:Perfectly Legal by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      With a 4" cannon, the number of deer you can hunt is limited only by the number you can get to stand side by side.

    3. Re:Perfectly Legal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you can hunt deer with a 4" cannon, more power to you. Most deer in West Virginia are killed by SUVs.

      Admittedly, it's a good way to get rid of SUV's. But, my god, what kind of cannon do they use to fire SUV's at the deer?

  2. Safety first? by TheRealPacmanJones · · Score: 5, Funny

    First? Is it really a good idea to give an 11 year old a cannon. Even though you will tell him not to use it unsupervised eventually theres going to come a time where his friends say something like "cmon we will just shoot it once"...... and then before you know it they are invading a nearby neighborhood...

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    1. Re:Safety first? by characterZer0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You get about one shot every 2 minutes if you have four guys that know what they are doing, and you burn more than $10 worth of powder for ever shot. And the things are heavy. They will not get far.

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  3. You'll shoot your eye out, kid by Zen+Hash · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Though Daugherty said he is still stunned that he had to get clearance from the NSA for the archaic artillery piece

    Why would he need clearance from the NSA?

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    1. Re:You'll shoot your eye out, kid by petrus4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why would he need clearance from the NSA?

      Because the American government has known, probably since Reagan, that its' constituents have genuine grounds for overthrowing it, and that it is therefore reasonably possible that they could someday try...and that they must therefore be prevented from trying at all costs. ;)

    2. Re:You'll shoot your eye out, kid by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Funny

      and that they must therefore be prevented from trying at all costs. ;)

      Hence the development of reality TV:

      Future Thomas Jefferson: Yeah, I'm really sick of paying 50% of my income in taxes. Let's overthrow the Government! Are you with me?
      Future George Washington: Yeah, the revolution! To arms! Call out the unorganized militia! We're with you to the bitter end!
      Typical American Citizen #1: Yeah! I hate taxes! Down with the Governmen.... hey isn't American Idol on tonight? Can we do the revolution tomorrow?
      Typical American Citizen #2: We can't do it tomorrow, the Amazing Race is on. How about next Wednesday?
      Future George Washington: *puts gun to his own head and squeezes the trigger*

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  4. Cost? by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article didn't say it cost $6000, but that it would be worth that. It would be hard to spend $6000 in materials for a Civil war era cannon that you build yourself.

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  5. Cannon Are Fun by Toad-san · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My kid brother, the machinist, made a scale replica of the 24 pounder long guns on the USS Constitution (Old Ironsides). He didn't cast iron; he machined it from a solid piece of modern steel (so it was WAY stronger than the originals).

    Then he made a scale carriage, machined (because it was so hard) from seasoned timbers from an old dock being disassembled.

    It was 1/4 scale, as I recall. When fired using modern muzzle loader powder (and totally guessing at the charge), it shot a beercan filled with cement about a quarter mile :-)

    He sold it eventually to a collector, but what a cannon that was!

    1. Re:Cannon are fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So let me get this straight, your uncle blew a hole in your tailgate with his wad?

    2. Re:Cannon are fun by mobby_6kl · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmm... so is he trying to build some sort of redneck technical there?

    3. Re:Cannon are fun by natehoy · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, he blew a hole in his own tailgate with his wad. THAT, my friend, takes talent.

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  6. traitor by methano · · Score: 5, Funny

    This kid lives in Charleston. Why is he talking about shooting at rebels? What has the South come to? Where is the adult supervision?

    1. Re:traitor by plopez · · Score: 4, Informative

      The West Virginians saw the Secession for what the sham it was; protecting the property (slave holding) rights of the rich tidewater plantation owners while forcing the poor (the working class and dirt farmers) to fight for them. The south had the draft before the North. After Bull Run, the militias were effectively drafted for the duration. Unless you were a rich plantation owner in which case you were considered too important for the economy and released from service.

      The West Virginians being dirt farmers themselves, and a bit ornery, seceded from Virginia and joined the Union as their own state in 1863.

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  7. Rebels? by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    'Any rebels charging up this hill would be in trouble with a cannon like this at the top,' Logan says

    Anyone else have an image of Stormtroopers firing one of these, relieved that they finally have a better weapon than those blasters?

  8. Famous last words in the article by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Daugherty said his son is very mature and would be able to handle the responsibility of owning a piece of artillery.

    "He's a good kid. One thing about my son he has a great respect for guns and weapons, so he will not be firing this anytime soon without an adult present."


    I'm sure that's all true. Unlike Mr. Daugherty, I actually do remember being 11 years old. I also remember not doing a very good job of thinking of the consequences of my actions. So we'll all wait for the day when 1 or 2 years from now when this "good kid" and his friends fire this cannon at other people or nearby property and cause damage that they are held accountable for.

    1. Re:Famous last words in the article by Unending · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I had a compound bow at the age of 7 and was using it without supervision within 6 months.
      At no point between the age of 7 and now have I ever used a projectile weapon irresponsibly.
      I think it is completely possible for this 11 year old to be responsible enough to own and use a cannon.
      Do I think this is the norm? No not at all, I didn't trust most of my friends to use my bow without supervision until I was maybe 12, but to just write this kid off because of your own irresponsibility is not fair.

  9. Err, no by LizardKing · · Score: 5, Funny

    That title should read "Dad Builds 700 Pound Cannon for Himself, Under The Cover of His Son's Birthday".

  10. Re:That's Interesting... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course, there's been at least one successful revolution... google the battle of athens, tenn.

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  11. NSA??? by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Though Daugherty said he is still stunned that he had to get clearance from the NSA for the archaic artillery piece

    Why would he need clearance from the NSA?

    I'm calling "bullshit" on the NSA bit. The NSA is a bunch of spys and technology geeks. They would have little interest in a Civil War-era black powder cannon. From the NSA web site "The NSA/CSS core missions are to protect U.S. national security systems and to produce foreign signals intelligence information."[http://www.nsa.gov/about/mission/index.shtml]

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  12. "Daddy" by Cornwallis · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I want a thermonuclear device."

  13. Cannon are fun by swillden · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My wife's uncle builds and shoots them. Years ago, he competed with his cannon, in both round shot and rifled competitions, with self-cast balls and "bullets" (I forget the correct name for them). These days he just does it for fun.

    You do have to be careful with them, though. Last year (2008) on the fourth of July, he took his small (2.5") cannon down to the city park like every year, to fire it as part of the city's early morning festivities. That went well, and on the way back he decided to stop off at my house and wake us all up, since my kids usually go down to the park. Unfortunately, he forgot to lower the tailgate of his pickup truck before touching off the powder. It blew an 8-inch hole through his tailgate. The cannon didn't have a projectile loaded, just gunpowder and a wad, but the force mangled his tailgate.

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  14. Re:That's Interesting... by fifedrum · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Technically, yes. There's nothing in the constitution that denies Bill Gates the right to own a nuclear weapon is there? Nothing even close. I suppose you can interpret the private ownership of WMDs to be unconstitutional because of their definition of mass-destruction, thus by their existence in private hands violating other citizen's right to liberty.

    And now to nitpick; The Civil War was hardly a bitch-slapping. It was the single bloodiest event in US history, out classing (in sheer destruction) all other wars thus-far combined.

    It could have fallen on either side at many different stages of the war. Had Davis pushed into Washington first-thing, it would have been over before it started (as DC was relatively undefended) Or had Lincoln's generals not been a bunch of screw-ups etc. And, of course, the almost million dead between direct conflict, starvation, disease etc again, a little more than a bitch slap.

    Now, whiskey rebellion, fine, or even prior to that when Massachusetts or Maine threatened to secede, or Delaware considered joining the Confederacy, or (as in an above post, MD) those were mere bitch-slaps. Man, those whiskey rebellion dudes really were push-overs.

  15. awesome by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    a troll from 1861

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  16. Re:Wow, news for nerds by DarthBart · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lighten up, Francis. Just because the cannon doesn't run Linux doesn't mean its not cool.

    But still, imagine a cluster of these things.

  17. What? by NerveGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean that somewhere, someone has NOT taught their son to be a pansy, and fear anything that has any remote chance of hurting someone? Oh, the horror! The next thing you know, he'll let the kid have his own POCKET KNIFE, for crying out loud. Won't someone please... THINK OF THE CHILDREN????

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  18. True cannon story. by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Funny
    This is only vaguely related to TFA, but hey, it's Idle.

    A while back I was working at a place that had both engineering and manufacturing, and I mostly hung out with the engineers but I worked on some of the manufacturing equipment so I met a lot of the manufacturing people. One guy looked like an 80's stoner, black jacket, long hair, bad teeth, you know the type. I'd never talked to him. One day, apropos of nothing, he walked up and handed me a thick sheaf of papers and said "I thought you'd enjoy this." It was plans for making a homebuilt mortar, similar in size to the cannon in TFA (but with a much less pretty and detailed carriage.) It was machined out of a piece of solid 6" thick steel stock. It's actually a pretty cool design, although my metal lathe can't manage something that big. But ever since, I've wondered if I have "CLOSET ANARCHIST" written on my forehead, that makes people who don't know me walk up and volunteer stuff like this, since this wasn't the only time that's happened.

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  19. Re:Not a threat by scorp1us · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can assure you Baltimore is not a state.

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  20. Re:Wow, news for nerds by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Funny

    "General Grant, the Rebs have broken through our lines! What are we going to do?"

    "Calm down, Colonel. Get the Beowulf Battery on line."

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  21. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms? by GeckoAddict · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anytime you need to get permission from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms for a Birthday present, you know it's going to be the best birthday ever.