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Synthetic Sebum Makes Slippery Sailboats

sonnejw0 writes "Sea-faring vessels are a major contributor of greenhouse gas production due to a deficit in international laws and inherent inefficiencies at sea, such as barnacle build-up on hulls. Many marine animals avoid the build-up of drag-inducing barnacles through secreting oily residues from their pores or through the nano-molecular arrangement of their skin. Sailors regularly defoul their hulls, removing the barnacles at dry-dock, which requires them to reduce the amount of time they have at sea. Some synthetic chemicals in paints have been used to prevent barnacle build-up but have been found to be toxic to marine animals and thus outlawed by several nations. Now, engineers are trying to replicate the skin of marine animals to produce a slippery hull to which marine bacteria cannot attach, saving fuel costs and improving speeds."

128 comments

  1. Oh dear lord by RenHoek · · Score: 4, Funny

    The image of a smegma producing sail yacht is now stuck in my head!

    Where's the brain bleach when you need it!

    1. Re:Oh dear lord by NoYob · · Score: 3, Funny
      Sebum - white shit that causes zits.

      I was thinking of ships with zits. Of course, as the ship gets older, it will probably grow out of it. It will be bad for the ships that ship chocolate and potato chips!

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    2. Re:Oh dear lord by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dude, what what would you do if I told you (truthfully!) that sebum is all over your body? It's all over your hair, your skin, etc.

      Yeah. That's because sebum is a term that refers to the natural oils that coat your hair and skin. It's what makes your hair and skin waterproof and what protects them from drying out.

    3. Re:Oh dear lord by sonnejw0 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, sebum is the natural oily product of the sebaceous glands that surround hair follicles. Zits are formed when sebaceous glands are blocked, resulting in a build-up for sebum WITHIN the hair follicle and/or gland. This build-up can occur due to a bacterial infection, skin sloughing, or excess sebum itself, excess sebum being produced by the sudden increase of systemic testosterone in pubescent years, as a result of repeated and frequent sexual stimulation post-pubescent, or exogenous oils and saturated fats from processed foods and meats can be secreted and are highly likely to obstruct these very pores.

      The sebaceous glands can recalibrate themselves eventually to this increased testosterone concentration, or the testosterone concentration can descrease with age or activity, or the elasticity of the skin can result in increase pore size, allowing greater flow. Massaging of the skin under hot water with soap could be a preventive measure in done regularly and at a young enough age. I would avoid harsh peroxides as they do not attack the underlying cause, even if caused by a bacterial infection it will probably not be entirely effective. The pores need to be cleansed, and peroxides are very effective at damaging DNA resulting in skin cancer later in life.

      I am not an M.D., but a Ph.D. student, and I had horrible sebaceous cysts when I was a teenager. So I can commiserate with the issue. Too bad I didn't realize back then that daily fast food was the cause of my problems and not the 'yummy' solution to my psychological needs I thought it was. Now, fast-food makes me sick that I know what is in it and how my teenage years of indiscretion will probably result in a heart-attack in mid-life, not discounting 5 years of misery, physically and psychologically. I bicycle 6 miles a day, now, and cook all of my own foods at home and I love life and social occasions. It's a lot harder to make those kinds of choices as a teenager, though. Peer pressure and the mental cloud of hormones makes it difficult to think for yourself, even when you think you are.

    4. Re:Oh dear lord by sonnejw0 · · Score: 1

      Oh, and definitely don't pop them on your own! That will just clog/infect surrounding pores and permanently damage the pore that's clogged, resulting in more cysts overall. A dermatologist can remove the cystic fluids easily and carefully in ways you cannot on your own. I did not heed that advice when I was a teenager, I wish I had.
      Really, just get a good dermatologist, it can become a serious problem very quickly.

    5. Re:Oh dear lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking of ships with zits. Of course, as the ship gets older, it will probably grow out of it.

      Unfortunately that's not always the case. 0x21 and still have it about as bad as in my 0x0Es...

    6. Re:Oh dear lord by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "as a result of repeated and frequent sexual stimulation post-pubescent,"

      'Scuse me?

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    7. Re:Oh dear lord by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      I think real bleach works quite well with removing thoughts from your brain... just drill a hole and in it goes. Just don't expect any new thoughts to occur in that area... ever... ;)

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    8. Re:Oh dear lord by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      Oh, and definitely don't pop them on your own! That will just clog/infect surrounding pores and permanently damage the pore that's clogged, resulting in more cysts overall. A dermatologist can remove the cystic fluids easily and carefully in ways you cannot on your own. I did not heed that advice when I was a teenager, I wish I had.

      Really? Who can afford to go to go to a dermatologist twice a week for zit clearing?

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    9. Re:Oh dear lord by Meski · · Score: 1

      "as a result of repeated and frequent sexual stimulation post-pubescent,"

      'Scuse me?

      Overly verbose, he meant wanking.

    10. Re:Oh dear lord by st0nes · · Score: 1

      Inefficiency? Come, now. The last ship I served in was a 3,000 TEU container ship which regularly made the voyage from Cape Town to Southhampton, a distance of 6,000NM carrying 50,000 tons of cargo on 1,500 tons of heavy fuel oil. Engines, for those interested, were 2X Sulzer 8rnd90 turbo-charged slow speed diesels driving 2 propellors. Work this out: to move 1 ton of cargo 6,000 nautical miles (over 11,000 km) burned a whopping 30 litres of fuel. Ships are the most efficient form of transport we have yet devised.

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    11. Re:Oh dear lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smegma is the junk that accumulates in the space between the glans and the prepuce...look it up, boys and girls, if you don't know what those are. It is not the oily substance (sebum) mentioned in the article.

  2. too many potential jokes for first post. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I would have been the "first post", but, well there were too many potential jokes.
    I really like "Sailors regularly defoul their hulls", but then there's the "Sebum"/"Semen" play on words which is always popular.
    "dry-dock" change some letters...
    oh my goodness I just can't decide, so I've lost my first post chance.
    So I guess I'll just RTFA and ponder how OpenBSD would help with this problem without even making a "soviet russia" or "natalie portman" reference

    1. Re:too many potential jokes for first post. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      I really like "Sailors regularly defoul their hulls", but then there's the "Sebum"/"Semen" play on words which is always popular.

      It's a slippery slope.

  3. It's a start by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A surface that inhibits barnacles is only a start, for there are other things one can do to make a ship more eco-friendly

    One if obviously a more fuel efficient engine

    The other is to improve the design of the propeller to make it more efficient while lessen the drag

    Then there is the need for a much lighter material for the construction of the ships

    Last but not least, new designs of ships are also needed.

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    1. Re:It's a start by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Go Nuke. They did it once http://www.atomicengines.com/ships.html, but made it more of a 'show' boat than a work horse.

      * The Savannah was designed as a showboat. Her purpose was to demonstrate American technology as part of the "Atoms for Peace" program. Pretty lines and luxurious staterooms were more important than cargo capacity or loading ease.
      * She made politically motivated port calls, not economically motivated ones.
      * She was a one of a kind ship, required to support a specialized infrastructure by herself.
      * There were some difficulties with union negotiations. She spent almost a year tied to the pier because of the deck officers did not want the engineers to make more money than they did.

      With the air craft carriers no one seems to have a NIMBY problem. You could move quite a bit of cargo with a few lbs of uranium.

      So it'll require hiring some more staff (Like an actual engineer and maybe some armed guards). The US Navy has managed to not have any nuclear powered vessel captured by pirates.

      Heck I wouldn't have a huge problem if the US Government wanted to own and operate a super-super cargo ship if it ran on Nuclear energy. The amount of oil those ships burn is measured in thousands of gallons per mile.

    2. Re:It's a start by Weh · · Score: 4, Informative

      ehm, have you ever studied ships?

      Large ships already have extremely efficient two stroke diesel engines (even over 50% which is extremely high if you consider the carnot max) They also have many devices to recover waste heat.

      Propeller designs are already very sophisticated, difficult to improve there.

      weight: the weight of the ship is very low relative to the amount of cargo it carries (compared to e.g. a truck). Also, the ship sails at relatively low speeds and mostly in a straight line so acceleration/deceleration losses that increase with mass are not really a factor.

      All in all cargo ships are already the most efficient mode of transport on a fuel/cargo weight-distance ratio basis.

    3. Re:It's a start by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Informative

      Heck I wouldn't have a huge problem if the US Government wanted to own and operate a super-super cargo ship if it ran on Nuclear energy. The amount of oil those ships burn is measured in thousands of gallons per mile.

      I know you're trying to make a point about using nuclear energy to power ships rather than burning fuel, but let's not go overboard on the amount of fuel being burned per mile. According to WikiAnswers, if a cargo ship travels at 30 mph (roughly 26 knots), it burns 120 gallons per mile.

      Granted, as the second item on that page relates, most container ships burn bunker fuel but the calculation is still the same. Even taking into consideration the size of ultra-large cargo ships, they don't use anywhere near thousands of gallons per mile to move across the water.

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    4. Re:It's a start by kalirion · · Score: 1

      With the air craft carriers no one seems to have a NIMBY problem. You could move quite a bit of cargo with a few lbs of uranium.

      So it'll require hiring some more staff (Like an actual engineer and maybe some armed guards). The US Navy has managed to not have any nuclear powered vessel captured by pirates.

      Ok, so now we'll need to protect cargo ships same way that we do aircraft carriers. Hmm, do we have enough battleships for escort?

    5. Re:It's a start by mayko · · Score: 1

      Ok, so now we'll need to protect cargo ships same way that we do aircraft carriers. Hmm, do we have enough battleships for escort?

      The fleet that accompanies an aircraft carrier is not for pirate protection... they are there to protect against submarines and battleships, and to resupply the aircraft with fuel and munitions.

      Forgive me if I'm not giving the pirates enough credit, but until they have modern submarines and battleships, or fighter/bombers... then I think a few armed guards with sniper rifles and maybe a large caliber deck gun would suffice.

    6. Re:It's a start by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to WikiAnswers, if a cargo ship travels at 30 mph (roughly 26 knots), it burns 120 gallons per mile.

      The largest container ships in the word operate on diesel engines with about 114000 HP at 25.5 knots. The engines consume (at peak efficiency, not regular operating conditions) 0.260 lbs/hp/hr of fuel. Diesel is around 7 lbs/gal, so the calc works out to about 144 gals/mile... at peak efficiency.

      I saw your claim and thought, "What about superfreighters?" After some back-of-the-envelope calculation, I'm surprised at their relative fuel efficiency...

      However, they're still dirty, dirty ships. One superfreighter releases the same SOx emissions as 50 million passenger cars. So even though the fuel usage isn't as bad as it one might think, there are other reasons why nuclear would be better.

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    7. Re:It's a start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, my farts probably produce 100 times as much SOx emissions as the vehicles I drive. It's not terribly meaningful to compare two different fuel sources.

    8. Re:It's a start by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      The only US battleships left are museum ships or in reserve.
      Actually a nuclear powered ship would be well defended from pirates by not slowing down to save fuel and not sailing near dangerous areas to save fuel.

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    9. Re:It's a start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The Emma Maersk class freighters carry about 154,000 tons of cargo. Given the earlier ballpark of 144 gallons per mile, that works out to about 1070 ton-miles per gallon. Compare that to a F150 which can make 28 ton-miles per gallon...

      I'm sure at the fuel expenses the shipping companies have, saving a percent or two would be huge.

    10. Re:It's a start by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

      One other way to increase efficiency of a ship is a Bulbous Bow

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    11. Re:It's a start by PPH · · Score: 1

      Forgive me if I'm not giving the pirates enough credit, but until they have modern submarines and battleships, or fighter/bombers... then I think a few armed guards with sniper rifles and maybe a large caliber deck gun would suffice.

      Many foreign governments frown on (as in its illegal) the possession of so much as a handgun by unauthorized personnel in their territorial waters.

      But then the easy solution would be to work out a set of international regulations permitting commercial vessels to be so armed. Countries could elect to sign such an agreement or not. Nuclear powered vessels would only be permitted to operate in international waters, or where they are able to avail themselves of the proper security. If nukes prove to be such a great cost savings (taking carbon emission charges into account), they'll price the fossil fuel shipping out of the market. Countries that won't sign on to the requisite treaties will be bypassed. Their populations will starve. Eventually they'll sign.

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    12. Re:It's a start by drainbramage · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't a better comparison be between Ships and Freight trains?
      Mostly going in relatively straight lines with limited (compared to trucks) ports.
      Sorry, no car analogy.

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    13. Re:It's a start by memnock · · Score: 1

      The other is to improve the design of the propeller to make it more efficient while lessen the drag

      there are several collisions of marine life with props, such as manatees. since redesign of the prop is being considered, why not consider a wildlife safe, efficent redesign

    14. Re:It's a start by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      I agree that nuclear would be better. I was merely trying to correct the hyperbole the OP said about ships using "thousands of gallons" per mile. If that were the case, the entire ship would be nothing but a fuel tanker and unable to haul cargo.

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    15. Re:It's a start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And just how long do you think it will be before fear gets this "floating time bomb" banned from docking at any major shipping dock in the world. A cargo ship is not much good if it can't pick up or drop cargo.

    16. Re:It's a start by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1

      Thank you for pointing this out :D

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  4. Good God, we've gone overboard on global warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Anybody care to calculate exactly how many orders of magnitude greenhouse gasses from seagoing vessels are below automobile emissions?

    Yes, every little bit helps, but the driving force behind keeping ships barnacle-free without drydocking sure as shit isn't to ameliorate global warming. Better efficiency and being able to be at sea more is why this is being looked at - NOT greenhouse gas reductions. So why the hell is a third- or tenth-order minor benefit listed described as the prime reason behind this research?

    Geez.

  5. Next Up.. by Azarael · · Score: 2, Funny

    Genetically engineered whales with a built in cargo hold. You just have to train them well, and take advantage of their natural migration patterns..

    1. Re:Next Up.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As fun a thought as it is, I occasionally have the opportunity of working with wild bottlenose dolphins - a species that sheds the outer layer of its skin extremely often, and yet we will still see in-shore animals disappear for a few months, most likely going into deeper waters, only to return later with barnacles attached to the tip of their dorsals.

      Now either the barnacles are very, very good at attaching themselves to anything - or there's some freaky dolphin/barnacle action going on in deep waters ;)

    2. Re:Next Up.. by localman57 · · Score: 1

      "Homing Whales!" I like it! Now, all we have to do is fill them up with flash drives, and make some asinine data-rate comparrison with an ISP.

    3. Re:Next Up.. by pz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Genetically engineered whales with a built in cargo hold. You just have to train them well, and take advantage of their natural migration patterns..

      Ever watch Farscape? The primary vessel in that sci-fi TV series is a space-faring biomechanoid leviathan, one of a class of spaceships that serve mostly as cargo transport. Yep, that's right, just as you suggest, they are genetically engineered whales!

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    4. Re:Next Up.. by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 1

      You can hold them in tanks made of transparent aluminum during training. I guarantee that it'll hold whales as you transport them to the future in your spacecraft.

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    5. Re:Next Up.. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Those are fruiting bodies, not barnacles. How else are the dolphins going to release their spores?

    6. Re:Next Up.. by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Lemme guess, you'll want to guard them with sharks with friggin lazers!

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    7. Re:Next Up.. by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      How many LoC's ('prox 20 TB circa 2007) can be transported by whale vs. my '70 Impala?

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    8. Re:Next Up.. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Yep, that's right, just as you suggest, they are genetically engineered whales!

      Fuck THAT. All it takes is one near miss or a bad storm off the Philippines, and the next thing you know, your ship is spooked and your shipment of Nintendo DSes is sitting inside the whale in the middle of Abbey Road!

  6. I want this by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I want them to use this technology to make my willy slick 24/7....no lube needed...EVER!

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    1. Re:I want this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tip: If you invest even a modest 3-5 minutes in foreplay, you shouldn't need lube.

    2. Re:I want this by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Foreplay with myself?

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  7. Won't the sailors slip all the time? by bostei2008 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... stopped reading after the headline...

  8. Teflon? by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1

    Why isn't some sort of non-stick coating such as Teflon not an option?

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    1. Re:Teflon? by eric2hill · · Score: 4, Informative

      The glue that barnacles produce will stick to Teflon.

      Here is an old 2005 article similar to this concept that talks about using a "skin" similar to shark skin to combat the barnacles.

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    2. Re:Teflon? by ElSupreme · · Score: 1

      I wondered this too. I would imagine the America's Cup boats would have this already, as cost seems to not be a concern.

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    3. Re:Teflon? by fhuglegads · · Score: 0

      Since we are looking to the kitchen for solutions, how about spraying the hulls with Pam (or any other woman doing her job.... just kidding.. maybe)

    4. Re:Teflon? by fprintf · · Score: 2, Informative

      America's cup boats typically are hauled out of the water after every days racing. There is little opportunity for stuff to stick to them because they are always moving, and anything that does stick is washed off. Furthermore there is a ton of work done at low reynolds numbers and boundary layers to ensure the boat bottoms are as efficient as possible - including micro-grooving the bottom material. I am not sure about America's cup, but in many racing series it is against the rules to add any shedding coatings other than anti-foul paint. America's cup boats do not use anti-foul.

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    5. Re:Teflon? by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the link.

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    6. Re:Teflon? by godel_56 · · Score: 1

      Why isn't some sort of non-stick coating such as Teflon not an option?

      On Australian TV some time ago was a piece about the uses of liquid lanolin, a by-product of the wool industry. When applied to the hulls of day trip tourist vessels the lanolin not only acted as a non-toxic antifouling agent but it reduced fuel consumption by a significant amount (from memory something like 10% to 20%).

      However, they had the luxury of being able to beach/dry-dock the vessels to reapply the coating as needed.

  9. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

    So why the hell is a third- or tenth-order minor benefit listed described as the prime reason behind this research?

    If you can make ships more efficient in the water, making ships that run on renewable sources becomes more possible. Steam- and diesel-powered vessels were invented to improve speed (and capacity) in the water. The more you can improve the efficiency, the more speed you can get out of less and less energy. Which makes things like wind power (sails) or solar power (electricity) more and more of a possibility.

  10. Damn, beat me to it by TrogL · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and no, you don't grow out of it.

    Any further discussion would be TMI.

    1. Re:Damn, beat me to it by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sunlight is said to help ... so hop to it, the basement stairs are right there at the end of the room.

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    2. Re:Damn, beat me to it by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it. Receding hair line, grey in my beard and I still get zits? WTF? And they call this 'intelligent design'?

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    3. Re:Damn, beat me to it by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      What does Three Mile Island have to do with it? Will your face do a meltdown?

    4. Re:Damn, beat me to it by tabrnaker · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the intelligent design requires an intelligent operator to work as designed.

    5. Re:Damn, beat me to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's not a basement, its a command centre!!

    6. Re:Damn, beat me to it by ppanon · · Score: 1

      It could very well be things in your diet. For instance I find that I break out if I eat salami and some other deli meats; I'm guessing that it might be the nitrates. For some others, it can be milk products. The best way to find out is to go on a hypo-allergenic diet, and slowly re-introduce your regular foods. Re-introduce one major item group per week since there can be more of a delay for acne breakout than for regular allergies.

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    7. Re:Damn, beat me to it by Meski · · Score: 1

      It could very well be things in your diet. For instance I find that I break out if I eat salami and some other deli meats; I'm guessing that it might be the nitrates. .

      Ah. I always guessed it was the high fat content of salami.

    8. Re:Damn, beat me to it by ppanon · · Score: 1

      Yep, could be that too. I don't seem to get it from deli ham or turkey slices. I would think there would be nitrates in that as well as a result of the curing process, though not as much and there is the post from someone lower down on how added fats can increase the problem.

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    9. Re:Damn, beat me to it by treeves · · Score: 1

      Too Much Information.
      Get with it.

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  11. Fire Hose Liner? by handy_vandal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe we can line fire hoses with this amazingly slippery material?

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    1. Re:Fire Hose Liner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm Peter North, and yes this works.

    2. Re:Fire Hose Liner? by GargamelSpaceman · · Score: 1

      I don't think you'd want to line a fire hose. Aren't they made from cloth because cloth seeps water slowly so that if the hose is run through a firey area it won't burn? If you lined the hose then fire would burn it. ALTHOUGH, you can boil water in a paper cup held over a candle, but then the cup is thin. If you lined the hose, then the liner would burn if it it was on the outside, and the structural cloth would burn if it were on the inside, I think.

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    3. Re:Fire Hose Liner? by Anenome · · Score: 1

      Fire hoses are already heat-resistant woven material + a rubber liner. They get wet and have to be dried because they're there when tons of water are being sprayed in all directions at a fire. And, if firefighters are doing their job right, you'll never see a line running through a fire, ever. That would mean they've been cut off by the flame and have bigger problems than a line in the fire. Although, I wonder if that's ever happened and a hole got burned in the line resulting in catastrophic loss of water pressure which would then make it pretty hard to escape again.

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  12. easy implementation... by ittybad · · Score: 1

    Staple Gun and Baby Seals? /me ducks

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    1. Re:easy implementation... by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 1

      Invention fail!

      They would drown.

      Now, baby sharks....

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  13. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The same reason there is so much hype surrounding H1N1: to get attention.

  14. nano-blah blah blah by Bootle · · Score: 1

    "nano-molecular arrangement of their skin"

    What does this even mean? Isn't it just the 'molecular arrangement of their skin"? Buzzwords are for business majors

  15. Minerva by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just coat the hull with sheets of gold, such as Otto Van Hoek did to the Minerva in 1690.

  16. Make the barnacles work for us by ConsumerOfMany · · Score: 1

    Why not make the hull full of indentations like a golf ball, that way the barnacles would fill in the spaces and make the ship more efficient....

  17. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Probably because only shipping-industry related people care about defouling costs and drydock days per 100 shipping days and whatnot, while "green" is the theme of the week and will garner press?

    I'm sure that the writeup of the same research in whatever the trade rag for shipping/shipbuilding is is talking all about the possible efficiency benefits over conventional antifouling paint; but that is kind of a niche interest. It's pretty much like any other industry/niche specific tech work. If you are writing for the inside audience, you go over the salient benefits first. If you are writing for the peanut gallery at large, you focus on whatever is simple and has public attention at the time.

    (Also, parenthetically, it is worth noting that, when trying to optimize something like fuel consumption or emissions, you don't go for the largest source first, you go for the cheapest source first and work progressively up to more expensive sources until you hit whatever the target or break-even point is.)

  18. No sails on the horizon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does this have to do with sailboats? The article doesn't mention sailboats, and this (rather expensive sounding) technology would only be suitable for commercial cargo vessels that are in the water year-round without (ideally) extended stays in port paying mooring fees. And "Synthetic Sebum Makes Slippery Ships" would have rhymed just as nicely.

  19. Go Full Sail by Tekfactory · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We did it once upon a time.

    Apparently Supertankers and Cargo ships have cut their speeds down to 10 knots to save fuel, some of the greatest Cargo ships of the Age of Sail managed 13 knots no dinosaur juice needed.

    And everything one of the other posters cited about better materials and new designs still applies.

    Flettner Rotors are more efficient than conventional sails, they failed because Diesel was just too cheap.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotor_ship

    Enercon a Wind Turbine company built a Rotor Assisted ship to ship its Wind Turbines and cut fuel cost 30%
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon
    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/08/flettner-rotors-cut-fuel-use.php

    1. Re:Go Full Sail by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Interesting
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    2. Re:Go Full Sail by PPalmgren · · Score: 1

      Full sail is not physically possible for the size of ships today. Large container ships are orders of magnitude more dense, and also carry orders of magnitude more cargo. Even if you could sail, tight control is needed due to high winds in ports with small channels blowing ships off course, not possible with sails. Large shipping companies pour millions into R&D to reduce fuel costs because even a 1% reduction in fuel cost nets millions of dollars in savings for these companies. The reason you don't see sails is that they are not feasible. Margins are razor thin, as shown by the shipping sector posting billions in losses for the first half of the year. Over 5% of capacity is idle. Your sailboat does not amuse me.

    3. Re:Go Full Sail by Philip_the_physicist · · Score: 1

      Not only is there the difficulty of getting into many harbours with large sailing ships, but we should also remember that sailing ships cannot sail directly into the wind, and make some leeway when sailing across the wind. This means that the Suez and Panama canals are effectively impassable under sail, and so tugs would be needed to avoid the much longer journeys around the south. There is also the issue of calms, and the need to follow the trade winds. These will cause massive variability in shipping schedules, which would in turn prevent just-in-time stock control working for imported goods.

  20. Sebum by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

    Sebum is the stuff that, if not properly emitted by your skin, can form a sebaceous cyst. They're pretty disgusting to drain, although sometimes doctors will just surgically remove the whole offending gland.

    If you want to be grossed out, have a look:

    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80740591/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8fsco3C_Zc

    BTW, don't pop them yourself as you can get dangerous infections of you mess up. Doctors can deal with them really easily, so it's worth it to go to one if you can when you have one.

  21. GP was correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    It *is* measured in thousands of GPM:

    120 gallons per mile == 0.12 thousands of gallons per mile

    See?

  22. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So why the hell is a third- or tenth-order minor benefit listed described as the prime reason behind this research?

    If you can make ships more efficient in the water, making ships that run on renewable sources becomes more possible. Steam- and diesel-powered vessels were invented to improve speed (and capacity) in the water. The more you can improve the efficiency, the more speed you can get out of less and less energy. Which makes things like wind power (sails) or solar power (electricity) more and more of a possibility.

    True, but that's still a second-order benefit at best because shipowners ALREADY wanted more efficient ships long before any environmental concerns ever arose because such ships have always been cheaper to run.

    Look at the changes in ships between 1850 and 1950. Do you really think environmental concerns drove those changes? Do you really think the owners of Liberian-flagged and Filipino-and-others-crewed vessels really care one whit about the environment? Yet even those ships have become more efficient and therefore more environment-friendly over the decades.

    And that's only because when large ocean-going vessels are involved, the profit motive aligns pretty nicely with environmental concerns.

  23. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by bhima · · Score: 1

    This is factually wrong. Ocean going transport represents a significant portion of all pollutions, including green house gasses.

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  24. Synthetic Sebum Makes Slippery Sailboats by iconic999 · · Score: 1

    Say that three times quickly

  25. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by Nadaka · · Score: 1

    Last I heard, the pollution generated by 8 supercargo ships was equivalent to the total released by every road vehicle in America. That is quite significant.

    I don't really care about global warming that much (ok, I do, but its not my primary motivation for my energy policy beliefs). The climate will change, one way or the other regardless of what we do. We are in a warm period of an ice age, sooner or later that ice age will end, it may also return to global glaciation at some point before that.

  26. Sounds Great for Sailboat Racing by aquatone282 · · Score: 1

    ... until you realize you'll still have to send someone under the hull to make sure your opponent hasn't ice-picked a towel to your keel.

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  27. Those damn fuel-sucking SUV sailboats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wouldn't that save more fuel in something other than a *sail*-boat?!

  28. We have a special this month. by pavon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Errant preachers travel for free! *

    * select destinations only.

  29. Noone saw the Euphamism? by zish · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who thought of this? "Synthetic Sebum Makes Slippery Sailboats", if you know what I mean. *wink* *wink*

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  30. bio-mimicry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great ideas like this (and this one too) are covered in Janine Benyus' speech, available on TED!

  31. Avast, me hearties! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    ... trying to replicate the skin of marine animals to produce a slippery hull ...

    So it's back to Whale Oil is it? Queequeg will be pleased.

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  32. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Last I heard, the pollution generated by 8 supercargo ships was equivalent to the total released by every road vehicle in America. That is quite significant.

    I don't really care about global warming that much (ok, I do, but its not my primary motivation for my energy policy beliefs). The climate will change, one way or the other regardless of what we do. We are in a warm period of an ice age, sooner or later that ice age will end, it may also return to global glaciation at some point before that.

    WHAT? EIGHT ships? Eight?

    Are you kidding?

    Somebody yanked your chain good and yanked it good.

    And you apparently didn't even think about it.

    If you put 2 20,000 HP diesels in those 8 ships - that's 16 diesel engines. Hell, put four in each vessel - that'd be 32 diesel engins. Just have them spewing raw exhaust into the atmosphere, you'd match what? A few hundred 18-wheeler trucks?

  33. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by Tim4444 · · Score: 1

    you go for the cheapest source first

    I would rather say you go for the most cost effective improvements first. I assume you mean to go after the low hanging fruit first. There's no point wasting time on optimizations that don't give decent returns for your dollar. Even if they're cheap they're still a waste of money. It may well be possible to spend less on one expensive but effective optimization rather than implementing a bunch of cheap but ineffective optimizations - even if they both yield the same net improvement.

  34. What a first sentence... by RobVB · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sea-faring vessels are a major contributor of greenhouse gas production due to a deficit in international laws and inherent inefficiencies at sea, such as barnacle build-up on hulls.

    Sea-faring vessels are the single most efficient way of transporting goods we have. The reason they're a big contributor of greenhouse gas production is that our global economy requires that a lot of goods are transported around the world. Try transporting thousands of containers across thousands of miles by truck (please, don't actually try this, it's bad for the environment).

    The IMO (wikipedia) is one of the most widely acknowledged international authorities on anything. They've made a lot of internationally respected laws, improving sea transport on many levels, including the environmental effects.

    It's true that hull fouling is a problem for ships. It's also true that many (especially large) ships burn Heavy Fuel Oil (HFO), which contains a lot of pollutants (like sulfur) and isn't as clean as, say, diesel oil. It's also true that ships burn a lot of HFO, and it's true that ships further pollute the seas by dumping garbage overboard.

    However, while the amounts of HFO burned by, say, the Emma Maersk, are enormous (about 300 metric tonnes per day at full operation), this is almost nothing when compared to trucks. Assuming 300mt/day at a cruise speed of 25 knots (over 45km/h), that equates to roughly 30 tonnes per 100 km. A semi-trailer truck pulling two TEU containers runs at around 30 liter per 100 km (that's around 8 mpg, anyone that can confirm this number?). This means the Emma Maersk, carrying 14000 TEU, uses 1000 times as much fuel as a truck carrying 2 TEU, which makes this ship about 7 times as fuel efficient as trucks.

    And another thing: with HFO costing 300-400 dollars per metric ton, the Emma Maersk burns up about 100,000 dollars per day when running at full capacity (this almost never happens, especially now with the economic crisis, but bear with me). That's about 3 million dollars a month in fuel. The Emma Maersk is crewed by a minimum of 13 seafarers, but let's take 20 for easier calculations, since it's probably closer to reality anyway. Suppose each of those 20 people earn 10,000 dollars a month (which is a lot - maybe the Captain, Chief Officer and Chief Engineer make this much... just maybe). That means total crewing costs for this ship would be 200,000 dollars a month, with fuel costs 15 times higher. What I'm trying to say here is this: it's in the companies' best interest to improve their fuel economy. A 7% increase in fuel efficiency would save them more money than not having to pay the crew. I'm fairly certain there are no cheap and easy ways to drastically reduce fuel usage, or they would have thought of it by now.

    All of this is not to say that there isn't room for improvement in the maritime transportation business, far from it. This research and other research like it can and will do great things for the shipping industry and the environment. I just didn't like how the summary made the industry the bad guy here.

    P.S. If you want to read more about the IMO's actions on air pollution: go nuts.

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    1. Re:What a first sentence... by PPalmgren · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That vessel, the Emma Maersk and her sisters, save 1200 metric tons of fuel a year with environmentally friendly silicone paint used up to the high water line. 1200mt * $300/mt = $360,000 * 8 ships = 2.88 million a year. The fuel savings is a little over 1% of yearly operation. 1% is serious business. It is in their best interest to chase fuel efficiency, and they do so with millions in R&D.

    2. Re:What a first sentence... by sexconker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It's missing a comma, too.

      "That vessel, the Emma Maersk and her sisters," should be "That vessel, the Emma Maersk, and her sisters,".

      We're using commas to separate list elements. Let's not drop commas just because we have the word "and" there - that's sloppy, lazy, and ambiguous. English is shitty and ambiguous enough, so we need to avoid that shit whenever we can.

      Now, if "that vessel" is referring to the Emma Maersk, then it should be a parenthetical.
      "That vessel (the Emma Maersk), and her sisters,".

      But who the fuck knows what that sentence was actually supposed to mean.

    3. Re:What a first sentence... by sandmaninator · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly certain there are no cheap and easy ways to drastically reduce fuel usage, or they would have thought of it by now.

      They thought of it a looooong time ago. Time to start using it again!:
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/22/2143897.htm

  35. Barnacles != Bacteria by Wowlapalooza · · Score: 1

    as the article summary implies. They're crustaceans (thus related to crabs and lobsters), their phylum is arthropod.

    1. Re:Barnacles != Bacteria by Wowlapalooza · · Score: 1

      Never mind, as I read further into TFA, it appears that the larger organisms, such as arthropods, get their foothold from bacteria, and that this new "skin" that's being developed is therefore primarily anti-bacterial. The article summary probably could have been worded to make this connection more obvious, but there's only so much that can be done in the limited space available...

  36. Invasive Species Deterrent by neorush · · Score: 1

    I live in an area with lots of small interconnected lakes and streams. We have big problems with invasive species attaching themselves to boats as they move through different waterways (the zebra mussel is one good example), this kind of material would be great for even smaller applications like motorboats that traverse these water ways to decrease invasive species proliferation.

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    1. Re:Invasive Species Deterrent by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Species travels to new location on it's own, on another animal, on a boat, truck, or whatever.

      Species takes root and kicks ass. Weaker species die out. It's just nature doing its thing. I think Disney wrote a song about it.

      What you're preaching is segregation.

  37. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

    If you can make ships more efficient in the water, making ships that run on renewable sources becomes more possible.

    While there may be technical merit to what you say, the economics imply the reverse.

    If the ship is more energy-efficient, the savings from switching to renewable energy will be lower, which in turn will delay the transition to renewable energy sources.

    Energy efficiency is a bit of double-edged sword in this regard, but there is still the big picture. The more time existing ships can spend at sea, the fewer ships we'll need to build to get the job done. A win for energy consumption in end, yes---but be careful of the assumption that it will benefit the adoption of renewable energy sources.

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  38. Unintended consequences by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    Synthetic Dandruff.

  39. Oh crap! by conureman · · Score: 1

    They've banned tributyltin? We were supposed to haul out my Mom's boat last year. Snooze, you lose.

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  40. Contradictory write-up... by mi · · Score: 1

    Sea-faring vessels are a major contributor of greenhouse gas production due to a deficit in international laws [...] toxic to marine animals and thus outlawed by several nations

    It seems, that when it really matters, national laws banning undesirable practices are quite effective...

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  41. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is factually wrong. Ocean going transport represents a significant portion of all pollutions, including green house gasses.

    Really? So put some numbers on it.

    According to this, there were 531 MILLION cars on the Earth - six years ago.

    Half-a-BILLION cars - damn near all of them spewing pollutants.

    And how many TENS OF MILLIONS of large trucks?

    How many THOUSANDS of large-seagoing vessels that would be able to take advantage of the technology in question are there? And get this - the diesel engines of large merchant vessels aren't all that huge - 20,000 HP would be a monster. Note that there are probably 1,000 HP automobiles you can buy for some decent coin, and 300 or 400 HP cars are pretty damn common.

    And that's ignoring large trucks - it wouldn't surprise me to find out that there are some trucks with bigger diesels than most ships. And there are a helluva lot more trucks on this planet than there are ships.

    Now, toss in the fact that the relatively tiny engine on a ship has all kinds of space to hold pollution-abatement gear that won't fit on a car or even a truck, and I must come to this conclusion:

    YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.

    Of course, you didn't provide numbers, you pulled weasel-words like "a significant portion of all pollutions" out of your ass. So even if you do manage to pull some numbers that put ship-generated pollution as being six orders of magnitude lower than automobile pollution, you're going to still call that pollution "significant" and feel oh-so-smug about yourself.

  42. Old news. by etnoy · · Score: 1
    This is nothing new. The 1987 U.S. America's Cup challenger Stars and Stripes pioneered the idea of having a specifically structured texture on the outer hull. Source (see page 60).
    Later on the internaional yacht racing rules were amended with rule no. 53,

    A boat shall not eject or release a substance, such as a polymer, or have specially textured surfaces that could improve the character of the flow of water inside the boundary layer.

    .
    The Stars and Stripes design was to use microscopic V-grooves alongside the hull, and when optimized for a specific speed throgh the water, actually gave some improvement. If the scientists could get this to work in tough conditions like on cargo ships as well, we could save a lot of energy.

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    1. Re:Old news. by PPH · · Score: 1

      Yeahbut, leave that expensive, micro-grooved hull sitting in sea water for a year or two and see what the barnacle buildup looks like.

      On the other hand, rule 53 doesn't apply to cargo ships. Anything that doesn't poison the fish is fair game.

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    2. Re:Old news. by sexconker · · Score: 1

      But as always, rule 34 does apply.

  43. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by Nadaka · · Score: 1

    Last I heard, the pollution generated by 8 supercargo ships was equivalent to the total released by every road vehicle in America. That is quite significant.

    I don't really care about global warming that much (ok, I do, but its not my primary motivation for my energy policy beliefs). The climate will change, one way or the other regardless of what we do. We are in a warm period of an ice age, sooner or later that ice age will end, it may also return to global glaciation at some point before that.

    WHAT? EIGHT ships? Eight?

    Are you kidding?

    Somebody yanked your chain good and yanked it good.

    And you apparently didn't even think about it.

    If you put 2 20,000 HP diesels in those 8 ships - that's 16 diesel engines. Hell, put four in each vessel - that'd be 32 diesel engins. Just have them spewing raw exhaust into the atmosphere, you'd match what? A few hundred 18-wheeler trucks?

    For at least some kinds of pollution? probably. "The 15 biggest ships emit about as much sulphur oxide pollution as all cars combined." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_pollution

  44. How about this? by mencomenco · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Has anyone tried adding the well-known Microban additives to marine paints?

    TFA states that barnacle infestation begins with filming of bacteria on the hull, followed by algea eating the bacteria, then barnacles feeding on the algea.

    Some Microban additives puncture bacteria and hence kill them. They are used in kitchen and medical equipment and institutional wall paints. Why not attack the root of the food chain rather than the top rung?

    1. Re:How about this? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Microban won't hold up in the ocean for more than a few hours.

  45. Nano-Molecular Arrangement by sexconker · · Score: 1

    "or through the nano-molecular arrangement of their skin" should be "or through their skin".

    Oh wait, we talked about pores already?
    The entire sentence should be dropped.

    Not everything has to be nano, cyber, 2.0, cloud-based, or other such bullshit, kids.

    1. Re:Nano-Molecular Arrangement by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      I am patenting Nano-bullshit.

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  46. Or, the easy way... by auroracita · · Score: 2, Funny

    We could just keelhaul more people. They'll scrape all the crap right off the bottom of your ship. Or they'll get stuck down there and create a bigger problem. Either way, it's entertainment. Yar.

  47. some sailors still slip inside the ship. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's how they misjudge the entrance of the poopdeck from the cargo hold, now THAT'S epic-fail; wouldn't want any of those braunacles on the Lord's writing implement from failing the proscribe of draft to the children from Heaven.

  48. why not just make all hulls out of molded glass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or GMO a giant clam to grow it's shell in the shape of a Deep-V hull, then spike a captain's bridge and servo'd aft damper onto it's head with a nervous-system override device so we can control the bivalve jet propulsion, trim, tilt, and attack?

    Why don't I just use you as a bodyboard next time I go surfing off Laguna Beach? Planet-X, or Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman will kill us before anything like this will make be usefull.

  49. Careless Composition Creates Confusion. by steelfood · · Score: 1

    And don't get me started on how ridiculously long-winded the summary is. By the second sentence, I was thinking, it's a summary, not the actual friggin article. Get to the point already!

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  50. problem solved long ago, environmentally approved by vinsci · · Score: 2, Informative
    I thought this was a solved problem: http://www.coppercoat.com/. Britain's biggest sailing magazine (and many others) has good results with it:

    In the December 2007 edition of Practical Boat Owner, the editor Sarah Norbury extolls the virtues of Coppercoat after a 14-year test on her family boat, a Starlight 39. She writes: "Our experience with Coppercoat has been fantastic. In all the 14 years we've never had a barnacle, seaweed, nothing.... The original claim for our Coppercoat was that it would last 10 years and many people were sceptical. Our test proves the doubters wrong."

    I guess good news travels slowly. ;-)

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  51. The private yachters bane. by anethema · · Score: 2, Informative

    For pleasure yacht sailors this is a big topic.

    It is a constant battle against marine life which wants to live on any part of the hull in the water.

    The main antifouling up to now which has been very effective is hard bottom paints containing Tributyltin. wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tributyltin

    This has unfortunately been proven to be fairly toxic to marine life and has consequently been banned worldwide for all craft under a certain length. Not sure of the length but large shipping vessels and somewhat the navy etc are still using it as it really is the only proven way to do a good job keeping that bottom clean.

    All modern antifoulings for pleasure yachts are now based one of two things. One is a copper (copper oxide) mixed with various biocides. This is a hard type paint, often merely ground copper mixed with epoxy. This will give you a very smooth finish, and it depends on the copper (which most marine life doesn't like) and the biocides to keep the hull fairly clean. You have to dive under once in a while and scrub the hull down. Small price to pay for sailing around paradise!

    The other type used is called an 'ablative' paint which may or may not contain copper/biocides but is meant to flake off itself as the marine life grows on it. This does not work for boats that live more at marinas with little sailing time, and requires bottom-jobs on the boat more often. The upside is that it is much easier to apply and does not require as much hull cleaning.

    It all comes down to..if they could invent something that did not require frequent haulouts and kept your hull clean and smooth, they could easily charge $500 per gallon of the stuff and people would be lining up to pay for it.

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    1. Re:The private yachters bane. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about using paints containing capsaicin? I believe it is used in parts of the Great Lakes on pipe gratings and such to prevent the buildup of zebra mussels that are beginning to infest the region. I would think it would be a lot more environmentally friendly than some of the alternatives.

    2. Re:The private yachters bane. by anethema · · Score: 1

      Replying to AC so you may not see this, but I have seen a lot of avocation for trying this (habinero or cayenne pepper powder mixed with bottom paint).

      The results seem very mixed, but with a slight positive slant. IE, it probably helps but the results are not conclusive.

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  52. seems like a lot of trouble by vaporland · · Score: 1

    you could just go to a developer's conference and harvest sebum there...

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  53. Not suitable for all by puslik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not and option for sailing racing boats - International Sailing Federation Racing Rules of Sailing prohibit this kind of solution: "53 SKIN FRICTION A boat shall not eject or release a substance, such as a polymer, or have specially textured surfaces that could improve the character of the flow of water inside the boundary layer."

  54. 20 years out of date by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I *swear* I saw something about this on "Tomorrow's World" (BBC science magazine programme) back in the '80s.

  55. Tongue Twister? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one who picked up on all the tongue twisters?

    Synthetic Sebum Makes Slippery Sailboats
    barnacle build-up on hulls.
    Many marine animals
    These are just the few attempts, even Timothy picked up on it with "so say we all dept"

  56. Re:Good God, we've gone overboard on global warmin by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    The Port of Long Beach has some Green initiatives going, supplying dockside power to ships, etc.

    A ship runs its diesels even at dock to supply the ~6 mw of power that the ship's systems need.

    One of their blurbs says that one large ship running off of dockside power instead of diesels will reduce the same pollution as 133000 cars for a day.

    I was pretty astounded...this is just for an idling ship, not one that's under way.

    sr

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