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Swarm of Giant Jellyfish Capsize 10-Ton Trawler

Hugh Pickens writes "The Telegraph reports that the Japanese trawler Diasan Shinsho-maru has capsized off the coast of China, as its three-man crew dragged their net through a swarm of giant jellyfish (which can grow up to six feet in diameter and travel in packs) and tried to haul up a net that was too heavy. The crew was thrown into the sea when the vessel capsized, but the three men were rescued by another trawler. Relatively little is known about Nomura's jellyfish, such as why some years see thousands of the creatures floating across the Sea of Japan on the Tsushima Current, but last year there were virtually no sightings. In 2007, there were 15,500 reports of damage to fishing equipment caused by the creatures. Experts believe that one contributing factor to the jellyfish becoming more frequent visitors to Japanese waters may be a decline in the number of predators, which include sea turtles and certain species of fish. 'Jellies have likely swum and swarmed in our seas for over 600 million years,' says scientist Monty Graham of the Dauphin Island Sea Lab in Alabama. 'When conditions are right, jelly swarms can form quickly. They appear to do this for sexual reproduction.'"

227 comments

  1. I don't mean to Troll by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But didn't human error capsize this ship?

    1. Re:I don't mean to Troll by 2.7182 · · Score: 5, Funny

      No. Let's be clear about this. These jellyfish has bred near a nuclear reactor, and in addition to being intelligent, are quite evil. They did it. And they did it on purpose.

    2. Re:I don't mean to Troll by OzPeter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But didn't human error capsize this ship?

      Another fine first post wasted by common sense and intelligence.

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    3. Re:I don't mean to Troll by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      Just be glad it wasn't some doofus welcoming new jellyfish overlords...

      Oh drats...

    4. Re:I don't mean to Troll by mctk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mod parent trawl.

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    5. Re:I don't mean to Troll by chriss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In 2007, there were 15,500 reports of damage to fishing equipment caused by the creatures.

      In other news: Last year several thousands of SUVs were damaged by children who, for some reasons, were not constrained by their parents to stay inside all the time and instead failed to stay at the proper speed to move smoothly with the traffic. Due to the excellent structural protection from the SUVs their drivers did not suffer major physical injuries.

    6. Re:I don't mean to Troll by flyneye · · Score: 0, Redundant

      It definitely was, but I'm sure they weren't " trolling" for jellyfish. (BA BOOM CHANG)

                NEXT!

       

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    7. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      In 2007, there were 15,500 reports of damage to fishing equipment caused by the creatures.

      In other news: Last year several thousands of SUVs were damaged by children who, for some reasons, were not constrained by their parents to stay inside all the time and instead failed to stay at the proper speed to move smoothly with the traffic. Due to the excellent structural protection from the SUVs their drivers did not suffer major physical injuries.

      It's not nearly as bad as you make it out to be. If you get the really big tires the little brats never even mess up the paint. Oh sure, sometimes a bicycle will damage a tire sidewall, but that's what roadside assistance if for, right?

    8. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Stupid+McStupidson · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm a jellyfish overlord, you insensitive clod!

    9. Re:I don't mean to Troll by jdfox · · Score: 4, Funny

      Re:I don't mean to Troll (Score: 15,500, Bait)

    10. Re:I don't mean to Troll by spongman · · Score: 4, Funny

      in other news visitors from the middle east were tragically killed when the twin towers of the world trade center blocked the path of the jet they were traveling on. the pentagon building and a field in Pennsylvania were responsible for similar incidents.

    11. Re:I don't mean to Troll by HexOxide · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't placing a nuclear reactor in such a place that jellyfish may breed next to it and mutate count as human error?

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    12. Re:I don't mean to Troll by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      Then someone will be welcoming you shortly. Just keep hanging on to that net...

    13. Re:I don't mean to Troll by 2.7182 · · Score: 1

      Not if those humans were planning on creating an army of killer jellyfish to take over the solar system.

    14. Re:I don't mean to Troll by sstern · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only an Iron Chef can save us. Send for Morimoto.

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    15. Re:I don't mean to Troll by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      No, it's only human error when several truck loads of small sardines capsize your ship. In fact, when it comes to the hierarchy of Japanese fishermen, the fishermen that get capsized by sardines tend not to want to talk about it.

    16. Re:I don't mean to Troll by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Informative

      "unless somebody doesn't actually know that troll and trawl do mean exactly the same thing in this case?"

      Incorrect. Trawling is done using a net, typically in the open ocean. It scoops up a lot of different crap, as the fishermen found out.

      Trolling is done with a hook and lure/bait. The slow forward motion of the boat makes the lure or bait appear to be alive, or the movement attracts the fish's eye.

      Just a fun fact.

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    17. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Gabrill · · Score: 1

      UNDERLORDS! Because they're UNDER the sea, get it?

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    18. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      F--k you whales and dolphins and f--k you Jellyfishes!
      Bonsai!!!

    19. Re:I don't mean to Troll by OakDragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...I don't really think a 'joke' this obvious should be marked funny.

      I mod something as funny so that others, who may have their thresholds set higher, can have a chance to read it. Is this not a good use of the +1 Funny?

    20. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Anci3nt+of+Days · · Score: 1

      ... and they are harbouring terrorists (aside: or was that terrorising harbours?)

      If that didn't persuade you ... they also have biological weapons.

    21. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Kvasio · · Score: 1

      In soviet Russia the society capsized their jellyfish overlords (such as Brezhnev or Andropov)

    22. Re:I don't mean to Troll by RichardJenkins · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am not usually the one to yell "Mods on crack!" but I don't really think an 'explanation' this obvious should be marked insightful. Nothing personal. ... unless somebody doesn't actually know that trawl is a pun on troll in this case?

    23. Re:I don't mean to Troll by crafty.munchkin · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Only an Iron Chef can save us. Send for Morimoto.

      I'll take Iron Chef Chen Kenichi over Morimoto any day.

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    24. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note to larger audience:

      The parent is referring to the US Iron chef - not the Japanese one that the rest of the world watches...........

    25. Re:I don't mean to Troll by thisisaccount2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I mod things as funny so others can yell "mods on crack".

      My use of +1 Funny is clearly superior to your own.

    26. Re:I don't mean to Troll by EricTheO · · Score: 1

      But didn't human error capsize this ship?

      YES!
        If you don't have sense enough to properly gauge the strain on you trawling rig and factor in... say the current sea state and speed of the vessel, you are bound to have trouble.

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    27. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Nonsense. These Giant Communist Mutant Jellyfish are clearly constructs of Red China. I say we rush a carrier battle group to the area armed with nuclear depth charges. I've seen enough 50's Sci Fi to I know nothing can go possibly wrong when using nuclear weapons on radiation mutated creatures.

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    28. Re:I don't mean to Troll by rbanffy · · Score: 1

      I for one welcome our new intelligent, boat capsizing, jellyfish overlords, you insensitive clod.

    29. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Benfea · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I for one welcome our new Jellyfish overlords.

    30. Re:I don't mean to Troll by natehoy · · Score: 1

      No, no, it's cow and chicken now. Didn't you at least watch the whole thing?

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    31. Re:I don't mean to Troll by motherpusbucket · · Score: 1

      How the hell did this get modded funny?

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    32. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    33. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Frnknstn · · Score: 1

      Is that a good use of an upmod? That is the /intended/ use of an upmod, certainly. My issue isn't with the tool, it's with the material. That joke wasn't even remotely funny. It wasn't even a joke. Why publicize it?

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    34. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Frnknstn · · Score: 1

      It seems you are not aware that trawling does not necessarily use a net. It can also be a string of hooks, just as one would use to troll.

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    35. Re:I don't mean to Troll by narcberry · · Score: 1

      No, it was global warming.

      Wait, there really wasn't a reference to global warming? Are we growing up as a society?

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    36. Re:I don't mean to Troll by uuddlrlrab · · Score: 1

      I am not usually the one to yell "/.ers on crack!" but gb2underurbridgefgt. Nothing personal.

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    37. Re:I don't mean to Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not usually the one to yell "/.ers on crack!" but this thread is too old for you to get any leftover +1 Insightful. Nice try.

  2. But... by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

    Do the jellyfish also serve as flotation devices?

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  3. I don't think we're ready for this jelly by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The worst part of this "invasion" is that the species isn't really tasty at all. Not to mention that every part of this particular jellyfish contains toxins. Every touching the top of the jellyfish will result in temporary numbness.

    If they are proliferating because of a lack of predators, we should probably go ahead and kill as many of these as we can to maintain a good ecosystem balance.

    1. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Mitchell314 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't the proliferation at least help the predator population? At least they're less likely to go hungry.

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    2. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is a big todo about nothing. Though jellyfish are a problem in and around Japan, it's not a problem in the seas of China because of the Chinese needle fish. It is confused for a snake (the Chinese needle snake) but is actually an eel. The easiest thing to do is to introduce the needle fish to the waters around Japan.

    3. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Gothmolly · · Score: 1, Troll

      What could possibly eat these things ? THEY are the apex predator.

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    4. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by XDirtypunkX · · Score: 1

      Not just ecosystem balance, those things creep me the fuck out.

    5. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by PitaBred · · Score: 5, Funny

      But then where will we get eel-eating gorillas? I mean, snake-eating ones are a doddle, but eel-eating ones? Plus, do the eel-eating gorillas die over the winter?

    6. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet there's some group of Chinese that will market eating this jellyfish as curing $DISEASE or improving $HEALTH. Then in a few years, this predator like the shark/whale will end up on the endangered species list.

      I recall a while back that the Swiss were angry at the Chinese for eating Switzerland's national animal (the St. Bernard); people were joking that the Swiss should start eating Panda.

    7. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      More activity to hunt this things probably will also hurt even more their predators or whatever contributed to regulate their numbers. The best way to get to balance is to try to repair what we did to unbalance things, like stop/minimize hunting sea turtles or that species of fishes that controlled their numbers.

    8. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wake me up when they can crawl 500 miles inland. Until they do, I guess I'm safe from jelly-related demise.

    9. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TFA mentions "sea turtles and certain species of fish". Oh is reading TFA cheating? Carry on then.

    10. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by squidfood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wouldn't the proliferation at least help the predator population? At least they're less likely to go hungry.

      Being able to eat jellyfish profitably (they are not very nutritious) is an adaptation a relatively small number of predators (in particular turtles, a very limited number of mostly non-commercial fish) enjoy; those predators are mainly limited by other factors (like habitat damage on beaches) - hunger isn't a main issue for them right now.

      That's the thing about jellies; they're really the end of the food chain (despite being low down) so if they bloom, there's not much predator control to bring then in check.

    11. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by squidfood · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...stop/minimize hunting sea turtles or that species of fishes that controlled their numbers.

      Not everything is subject to predator control. Jellies may be more limited (historically) by competition for food with small fishes. It's possible a combination of changing climate conditions favoring jellies over small fishes, and removal of competitors for zooplankton leads to these events rather than removing predators.

    12. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well duh. Fish Jelly is the worst idea since slug paste.

    13. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by grumling · · Score: 1

      Sounds like it could be the next big recreational drug.

      One man's toxin is another man's lost weekend.

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    14. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by F34nor · · Score: 1

      No because we are literally exhausting the fisheries. Once they are all dead it is hard for them to utilize the increased number of prey.

    15. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Stormie · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that every part of this particular jellyfish contains toxins. Every touching the top of the jellyfish will result in temporary numbness.

      So, it's no good for food, but it sounds like it could be great for getting high!

    16. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I recall a while back that the Swiss were angry at the Chinese for eating Switzerland's national animal (the St. Bernard); people were joking that the Swiss should start eating Panda.

      No such thing as a national animal for Switzerland. http://www.about.ch/administration/index.html#CH_Admin_Nationals

      That being said, the way that the Chinese kill the dogs is barbaric. And it's not an urban legend. I've known Asians who have admitted to eating dog, and I'm not impressed.

      Disclaimer: I owned a St. Bernard.

    17. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by blyloveranger · · Score: 1

      While I can't say anything about the test of them, but Nomura's Jelly Fish is one of the (I think) two jelly fish eaten in China and Japan. Along with, according to the Japanese Wikipedia, a jelly fish, appropriately called the Edible jellyfish, though the scientific name is Rhopilema esculenta. While the Edible jellyfish is know as more delicious and fetches a higher price in China they are both perfectly edible. The other problem is China and Japan view the problem differently, because Japanese people do not traditionally eat jellyfish they tend to view the surplus of jellyfish in terms of invaders, while China has a tendency to view it as more jellyfish to eat. Though there are several Japanese companies who have started using Nomura's jellyfish as an ingredient in different foods as a way to try to deal with the influx of the jellyfish in recent years. This caused several problems last year, when several companies were expecting hauls of jellyfish last year to find almost none appearing.

    18. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by hey! · · Score: 1

      Let's see. Seafood that's not tasty and contains toxins. And you think that's going to keep Japanese foodies from eating it?

      I've eaten (non-toxic) jellyfish. It's about as interesting as chewing on one of those rawhide bones they give to dogs. You wouldn't think there'd be any point to collecting, drying, shipping and lavishing culinary talent on such a thing. But of course, that's exactly what makes it a delicacy.

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    19. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      The very Snopes article you linked to said that the "barbaric" methods of killing were "difficult to verify", and gave no indication that these rumors were anything but.

      If they're killed humanely, what's so much worse about it than eating, say, a lamb or a cow?

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    20. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Look around the web for pictures of "pressed St. Bernards".

      They believe that the dog should be alive as long as possible to "capture the essence" and "the meat tastes better."

      I would have no problem with rendering the same treatment to anyone who does that to a dog. Cruelty is cruelty, and dogs can and do suffer.

    21. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Yes; well, like I said: if they're killed humanely. If not, well, there's just no good reason to make the animals suffer.

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    22. Re:I don't think we're ready for this jelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really can't kill them, if you do they proliferate even more and more will come.

  4. jelly fhish by alxkit · · Score: 0

    it looks like a job for SpongeBob and friends...

  5. Except for the other predator using the nets. by Marrow · · Score: 1

    If its a predator fish, we probably think its tasty or at least good
    enough for pet food.

  6. Woho! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's peanut butter jelly... fish?

  7. Mystery solved by Oyjord · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Relatively little is known about Nomura's jellyfish, such as why some years see thousands of the creatures floating across the Sea of Japan on the Tsushima Current, but last year there were virtually no sightings."

    Godzilla had the munchies?

  8. Soon: by DemonBeaver · · Score: 5, Funny

    Capsizing Jellyfish: The Hentai

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    1. Re:Soon: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to learn to eat some jellyfish, then. The Jellyfish Lickers, that's a reasonable name for a band or a movie of sorts.

    2. Re:Soon: by Artuir · · Score: 1

      I'm sure we all knew rule 34 would not fail humanity. Or all of jellykind.

    3. Re:Soon: by 2obvious4u · · Score: 1

      The Pokemon Episode you were looking for: Pokemon Episode 19

      Its been done before...

  9. Don't kill predators by mangu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they are proliferating because of a lack of predators, we should probably go ahead and kill as many of these as we can to maintain a good ecosystem balance.

    Wrong, we should stop killing predators. The seas have been overfished for too long, equilibrium is broken on so many levels that only true regulation and control of fishing will get any results.

    After all, fishing is *so* primitive. Civilized people *grow* their food, hunter/gatherer economics are for barbarians.

    1. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      hunter/gatherer economics are for barbarians.

      which some of us still are, so shut up before I club your head with my stick

    2. Re:Don't kill predators by Kneo24 · · Score: 1

      Some people speculate, and I agree with this based on subjective experience, that farmed fish doesn't taste as good as fresh fish. You can grow all the fish you want. Sure, it tastes okay, but I prefer fresh. There's something about fresh fish that makes for a better meal in whatever you tend to use it in. It's considerably more noticeable in Sushi.

    3. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      CLUB HIM! CLUB HIM! The barbie-que is already fired up. You club him, I'll clean him!! He'll look good beside the eels, the shark steaks, and the dog steaks! I hear geek tastes like pork! Oh, I'm so excited, CLUB HIM!

    4. Re:Don't kill predators by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1, Troll

      You don't need to eat animals. And it's very easy to select plants for flavor on a farm (we've had millennia of selective breeding to get it right.)

    5. Re:Don't kill predators by Firkragg14 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If they didnt want to be eaten then why would they taste so good. Answer me that.

    6. Re:Don't kill predators by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's the feed. Ever eaten rabbit? A wild rabbit has a taste that is very distinctive. Farm raised rabbit has a rather soapy taste, so I won't eat it. The only difference is, wild rabbit eat what wild rabbits are SUPPOSED to eat - green vegetation. Farm raised rabbits eat prepared feed, which includes anti-biotics, possibly hormonal growth accelerators like they use for cattle - whatever the eggheads believe will grow the most meat for the least money. Farm fisheries are the same. It's near impossible to duplicate their natural diet, and if you could duplicate it, they would be far more expensive than wild fish.

      Diet has everything to do with the flavor of the meat.

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    7. Re:Don't kill predators by spitzak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Um, "fresh" for fish means "not-frozen", and has nothing to do with whether it is farmed or not. I think the term you are looking for is "wild" or perhaps "not-farmed".

    8. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if that means humans taste like crap.

    9. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Civilized people *grow* their food, hunter/gatherer economics are for barbarians.

      That's what _you_ think.

      Civilized ones over here know e.g. that grown salmon has more pollutants than natural fished.

      Also, this idea of growing is a lot more complex than it seems... some primitive folks have rituals to seed new "harvests" (which they won't tend, but will use), to help predators and natural defenders (like insects).

      Seems the civilized ones cannot learn how to behave inside their society _and_ outside, too.

      FWIW, I believe there will come a day -- too far in the future from now -- when we will relearn how to profit from Nature being gatherers again.

    10. Re:Don't kill predators by rcolbert · · Score: 1

      I'm a charter member of PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals), and have to express my outrage at this insensitive comment. I am a devout 50% vegetarian. Please support my online initiative to have bacon reclassified as a vegetable by the FDA at www.baconmakeseverythingbetter.org.

    11. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bingo. There's actually plenty of active research on what happens to habitats that lose their predators. It of course varies dramatically between habitats, but there's good evidence that humans actually can not (or will not) replicate the effects of these predators in a habitat.

      I saw a talk recently by this guy (Bill Ripple) discussing research results that will be coming out fairly soon. Basically, they examined a couple of habitats and found that habitats with predators (wolves and cougars, in the places they did their studies checked) were -dramatically- more healthy than those without.

      This seems obvious, but the slides he had were eye-opening, for me. I recommend reading more, though the main research isn't published yet. There is still plenty of good stuff here:
      http://www.forestry.oregonstate.edu/wolves/

    12. Re:Don't kill predators by 228e2 · · Score: 1

      Hmm . . . what a modest proposal J Smith!

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    13. Re:Don't kill predators by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      CLUB HIM! CLUB HIM! The barbie-que is already fired up.

      There's a queue for Barbie now and everyone in it is fired up? Pictures, please.

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    14. Re:Don't kill predators by A+Boy+and+His+Blob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So I wonder... would a farm rabbit raised on feed taste better if its diet were changed to something more natural say... a month or so... before it was killed? Or is this something that happens over the entire course of its life?

    15. Re:Don't kill predators by T+Murphy · · Score: 1

      He's talking short-term, you are talking long-term. Both solutions should be pursued on an appropriate time-scale.

    16. Re:Don't kill predators by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 1

      I tried to visit your site, but was very disappointed to see it time out. It must have been slashdotted already. Do you happen to have a mirror?

    17. Re:Don't kill predators by drsquare · · Score: 1

      After all, fishing is *so* primitive. Civilized people *grow* their food, hunter/gatherer economics are for barbarians.

      Farmed fish are inferior to wild fish, and need to be fed from wild fish anyway. Civilised people eat whatever's nicest and most convenient.

    18. Re:Don't kill predators by value_added · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So I wonder... would a farm rabbit raised on feed taste better if its diet were changed to something more natural say... a month or so... before it was killed?

      Sure, but I don't know about a month.

      Don't enjoy rabbit, so I'll pass on commenting. Chicken, on the other hand, if you feed one a steady diet of corn, you get golden-coloured and really tasty meat. Cows that are fed grass (as opposed to grain), give milk that tastes far better than what you'll find in the American supermarket aisles. The cheese made from that milk doubly so. The meat obviously is better too and priced accordingly.

      It's a simple concept, really. Garbage in, garbage out.

    19. Re:Don't kill predators by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pigs have often been allowed to forage for mast, then penned up and fed corn and maybe some sweet feed for some weeks before slaughter. Remember that a hog is an omnivore, so free ranging hogs eat some really NASTY stuff!
      Even today, farmers who slaughter their own hogs for private consumption will replace the commercially prepared feeds with corn.
      Would it work for rabbits? Probably.

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    20. Re:Don't kill predators by Brigadier · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I always thought it interesting that people think equilibrium is a ecosystem free of humans. Aren't humans a part of the ecosystem. True equilibrium is our food source dying, followed by world starvation. The environmental push has nothing to do with the environment but is in fact human preservation. Let's call it exactly what it is.

    21. Re:Don't kill predators by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      wild rabbit eat what wild rabbits are SUPPOSED to eat

      Their own poop?

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    22. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah great, toxic giant squids, lets feed them to the poor sharks and get rid of both.

      Anyhow, which species of 'giant squid' was it that was 'recorded on video for the first time' a couple years ago?...

    23. Re:Don't kill predators by unitron · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't that be J Swift?

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    24. Re:Don't kill predators by Gerafix · · Score: 1

      Well, it's all based on diet, right? So I'd say an American on a diet of McDonald's would taste like crap, while an American on a diet of Kobe beef and other high end produce would be the cats pajamas of long pork.

    25. Re:Don't kill predators by 228e2 · · Score: 1

      haha, yes i meant Swift . . . back to using the preview button =\

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    26. Re:Don't kill predators by Acer500 · · Score: 1

      Farm fisheries are the same. It's near impossible to duplicate their natural diet, and if you could duplicate it, they would be far more expensive than wild fish.

      That's the point right there. The seas these days, though somewhat regulated, are still in the "tragedy of the commons" phase (heck, it's cited on Wikipedia as one of the current modern examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons ).

      The current economic idea, (if I understood something of the pop-economics books I've read), is to internalize those costs (externalities). How, I don't have an idea :P - maybe by setting some kind of global tax on fishing (not that I'm usually in favor of taxes). Whichever the solution, I hope someone finds it.

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    27. Re:Don't kill predators by houghi · · Score: 1

      Probably? Weeks? Stuff you (or animals) eat will get into your body within hours. Let a goose eat garlic a few hours before it is slaughtered and you have a nice taste of garlic in the meat.
      It is a very simple thing. Stuff that gets into the animals stomach will get into the blood. The blood will put stuff in the muscles. Muscle is meat.

      Next to the taste of food there also is the tenderness of the meat. Look at an athlete. He will have a lot of muscle. Look ate the average geek and he won't, even though they might eat the same amount of food.

      As the athlete will do more movement, his blood will be pumped around much more. His muscle will also be much firmer.

      With animals that translates to much more taste and much tougher meat. Most people have been trained that very tender meat is better. It if not so by definition. It will often have less taste, That lesser taste needs to be compensated by a strong sauce or ketchup or the like.

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    28. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You're commenting on the quality of meat, yet you mentioned the word "ketchup".
      Methinks you haven't eaten meat outside of a McDonalds...

    29. Re:Don't kill predators by willy_me · · Score: 1

      Diet has everything to do with the flavor of the meat.

      Not just diet - also exercise. Unused muscle tends to not taste very good. If it were just diet, farmers would simply change the diet of the animal for the last couple of weeks to change the taste.

    30. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem with farmed fish is that most of the meat is contaminated with parasites, such as sea lice.

      Talk to anyone who works in a cannery that works with farmed fish - they'll tell you about having to pick the parasites off the flesh all day.

      If these were land animals instead of fish, they would be classified as unfit for human consumption.

    31. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I wonder if that means humans taste like crap.

      Well, if you insist on eating the intestines ...

      Reporter to native: What is your favourite food?
      Native: Beans.
      Reporter: Really. What type of beans? Navy beans, baked beans, kidney beans?
      Native: Human Beans.

      BTW: It's been proven that even robots think people taste like salt pork.

    32. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Basically, they examined a couple of habitats and found that habitats with predators (wolves and cougars, in the places they did their studies checked) were -dramatically- more healthy than those without.

      Obvious? Of course - predators cull the weak and sick, the easy kills, so of course what you have left is healthier.

    33. Re:Don't kill predators by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "If it were just diet, farmers would simply change the diet of the animal for the last couple of weeks to change the taste."

      Whoosh?

      If it were just diet, farmers would simply change the diet of the animal for the last couple of weeks to change the taste.

      Canada

      The majority of beef cattle in Ontario are finished on a corn (maize)-based diet, whereas Western Canadian beef is finished on a barley-based diet. This rule is not absolute, however, as producers in both regions will alter the mix of feed grains according to changes in feed prices. Research by the Ontario government claims that, while Alberta beef producers have organized a sucessful marketing campaign promoting Alberta's barley-fed beef, corn-fed and barley-fed beef have a similar cost, quality, and taste.[1]
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      Note the term "finished". They DO feed the cattle as cheaply as possible, until shortly before slaughter. THEN, they are finished with barley or corn.

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    34. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amino acids?

    35. Re:Don't kill predators by youngone · · Score: 1

      Yup, you're right. Commercial fishing has always been a business of finite duration. Ask the Atlantic cod fishermen. (Oh, wait, the fish are all gone). Here in New Zealand we have a pretty good system of regulating commercial fishing, but the stocks are still going down. The only way we'll ever be rid of commercial fishing is through commercial extiction of fish species. Personally I'm cheering for the jellyfish.

    36. Re:Don't kill predators by 2.7182 · · Score: 2, Funny

      My wifes a vegatarian and I keep telling her that she can eat beef, since it's made of grass...

    37. Re:Don't kill predators by syousef · · Score: 2, Informative

      I always thought it interesting that people think equilibrium is a ecosystem free of humans. Aren't humans a part of the ecosystem.

      Perhaps when we were dumb monkeys and there were something like 40,000 - 200,000 of us you could make this argument. However we grew brains and one result is that there are over 6 billion of us and growing. Not sustainable.

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    38. Re:Don't kill predators by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      Of course it is, this is a simple "predator-prey model" scenario. As our population grows, we find more ways to get food to eat. If it grows too much then we won't have any more food and the population will shrink. It is no longer practical for the human population to sustain itself by hunting and foraging, but fortunetly (with our oh so evil brains) we have found new sources of food (farming). If we ever reach the limits of what farming can produce, then we will simply find a new source of food, or die.

      Every single organism in the ecosystem works like this. As much as you might like to think it, we are not special in this regard. Keep your self-loathing to yourself.

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    39. Re:Don't kill predators by dafing · · Score: 1

      Not just diet - also exercise. Unused muscle tends to not taste very good.

      Dont some people prefer to order "THE" veal? The calves are kept so they CANNOT exercise to keep their muscles "tender"? I'm vegan, so dont ask me about how meat tastes :)

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    40. Re:Don't kill predators by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      True equilibrium is our food source dying, followed by world starvation.

      (Insert Inigo Montoya quote about word definitions here)

      True equilibrium would be when the rate at which people consume natural resources matches the rate at which those resources respawn.

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    41. Re:Don't kill predators by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      There's something about fresh fish that makes for a better meal in whatever you tend to use it in. It's considerably more noticeable in Sushi.

      Agreed. The way things are going, however, that problem will solve itself, since 70 years from now nobody living will remember what a wild-caught fish tasted like.

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    42. Re:Don't kill predators by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      If they didnt want to be eaten then why would they taste so good. Answer me that.

      I've been asking the same question about human babies for years; I've never gotten a good answer.

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    43. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong, you're a moron- take this from someone who's grown up in the Salmon Capitol of the World (wild salmon, that is), and has been heavily involved in the salmon-based industries for over 15 years. This is the type of community that teaches "Advanced Marine Biology" in the High School, and people are educated about Salmon beginning in grade-school.

      Most any wild Pacific Salmon you catch will/may/can/ have sea lice on it, most especially the Pink Salmon, however. They are simply picked off before dressing-out the fish. Your statement that:

      "If these were land animals instead of fish, they would be classified as unfit for human consumption." ...is patently false and misleading. In the literally THOUSANDS of Pacific Salmon I've seen the insides of, dressed and steaked/filleted for my own or others human consumption, cooked and prepared for myself, my family, or others, been given or gifted to/from others, or had prepared for me, I HAVE NEVER seen a Sea Louse in the internals/meat of the fish, contrary to your position that, "most of the meat is contaminated with parasites".

      They are simply picked off, and the salmon is prepared to be turned into food. They are harmful to the Salmon, NOT the Human.

      While I don't recommend it, I have taken salmon right out of the sea, filleted it out essentially live, and then immediately consumed it as sashimi. (Please note, this would be HIGHLY unadvised if you were harvesting said fish from FRESHWATER. All Pacific Salmon potentially contain roundworm larvae that could potentially infect someone who ate fresh raw salmon. There is a sliding scale of Time/Temp to which Salmon to be prepared for sashimi should be frozen, to kill any parasites. Or you know, you could just COOK the fish, which is what is done to most salmon consumed in the world.

    44. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If God didn't want us to eat people, why did he make them out of meat?

    45. Re:Don't kill predators by ffflala · · Score: 1

      Cows that are fed grass (as opposed to grain), give milk that tastes far better than what you'll find in the American supermarket aisles. The cheese made from that milk doubly so. The meat obviously is better too and priced accordingly.

      It's a simple concept, really. Garbage in, garbage out.

      I've yet to eat grass-fed beef that tastes far better --or better at all-- than grain-fed beef, and Kobe beef is the best of all (which is a combo of grain-fed and fermented grain-fed.) It could be that my taste has simply acclimated to years of grain-fed beef, but I also prefer the taste of wild game and fish compared to farm-raised. In particular, I ate a lot of hunted venison as a kid.

      In my experience, grass-fed beef has all the negative attributes of gamey flavor with none of the positive attributes. Maybe it's just because there's not really an "authentic" wild cow diet, because there is no such thing as a wild cow.

    46. Re:Don't kill predators by ffflala · · Score: 1

      I always thought it interesting that people think equilibrium is a ecosystem free of humans. Aren't humans a part of the ecosystem. True equilibrium is our food source dying, followed by world starvation. The environmental push has nothing to do with the environment but is in fact human preservation. Let's call it exactly what it is.

      I've never heard that argument, and I think that it would find more resonance than the current environmentalist PR.

    47. Re:Don't kill predators by willy_me · · Score: 1

      Note the term "just".... I never claimed that diet never had an effect, just that it was not the only effect.

      And with regards to your quote, it supports my assertion. Different feed does not have an impact on final quality. But you really should not read much into it. I'm from Canada. Neighbours are ranchers. There is no alteration of diet before the slaughter. [1] Ranchers are paid at auction based on the weight and general appearance of the animal. The fact that there are different diets between Ontario and Alberta is most likely a result of different grains being grown. The reason why grains are used in place of hay is that the stress of their changing environment can put them off their food. Grains ensures that they will retain their weight.

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      The diet will change when the animal is brought to auction because ownership changes hands. But the auctions are quick and the slaughterhouses do not keep animals for long.

    48. Re:Don't kill predators by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      If farmed fish tastes 'okay', and the alternative is no fish at all due to overfishing, what is the better alternative?

      Mart

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    49. Re:Don't kill predators by VShael · · Score: 1

      Cows that are fed grass (as opposed to grain), give milk that tastes far better than what you'll find in the American supermarket aisles.

      Absolutely true. Any time I've been in the states, I've found that the milk I buy there is undrinkable.

    50. Re:Don't kill predators by unick · · Score: 1

      A subtle difference in taste is enough for you to not save an ecosystem ? Maybe we should not be so snobbish food if it can help the planet. I stopped eating meat even though I find it tasteful. If farmed fish would indeed be a solution to keeping the ecosystem in balance, then surely this small sacrifice in taste is worth it ?

    51. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the viewpoint the sustainability science is taking. "How to stay alive?" in the long term is starting to be more interesting question as the geological evidence amounts.

    52. Re:Don't kill predators by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem with farmed fish is that most of the meat is contaminated with parasites [wikipedia.org], such as sea lice [wikipedia.org].

      The wikipedia article you link to does not say that most of the meat is contaminated. If you're going to make outrageous statements like this, please pick sources that actually back your claim.

    53. Re:Don't kill predators by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      I prefer my bunny to be the pet of small children. When it has been hugged and loved, it really tenderizes the meat, falls right off the bone.

    54. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      http://beyondsalmon.blogspot.com/2006/09/parasites-in-fish-part-1-cod-worm.html

      If land animals had the same class of parasites, they would definitely be quarantined and killed, not served to humans. Nobody would tolerate wormy meat, especially with parasites that are harmful to humans.

      We tolerate it with fish because "it's different", but we're seeing that, more and more, it's not so different - interspecies barriers get breached as we change the environs, and fish farming definitely changes their environment.

    55. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I was pointing out an example of the types of parasites.

      As for most of the fish flesh being contaminated, that's from people who actually work in fish canneries and have to pick the little buggers off the fish (as well as worms, etc) - a much better source than the wiki.

      Go and ask anyone who works in one - I *love* salmon, cod, etc., but now ... I'm leary.

    56. Re:Don't kill predators by chronosan · · Score: 1

      Timothy or Denis?

    57. Re:Don't kill predators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True equilibrium is our food source dying, followed by world starvation.

      (Insert Inigo Montoya quote about word definitions here)

      Oh for a momment there I thought you going for the other Inigo Montoya quote, which was strange because I don't recall anything about he and his dad fishing.

      True equilibrium would be when the rate at which people consume natural resources matches the rate at which those resources respawn.

      In other words, it's only possible for a modern society to experience this in an MMORPG.

    58. Re:Don't kill predators by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      So, according to that article:

      Your stomach will eventually kill them, but since they originate in seals, they can get quite comfy in any mammal including us humans making the experience extremely unpleasant. As Dr. Palm puts it, "It is better not to eat them alive."

      Now, according to that article, cooked fish, parasites or no, is perfectly safe to eat, and not "harmful to humans" at all. So the only concern is raw fish.

      So where are all the stories about people getting sick from parasites present on their raw fish? I mean, sushi is widely consumed, so there should be stories all over the place, right?

      Or maybe it's just that you, or the people bringing up this issue, are vastly overstating the problem. But they wouldn't do that, right?

    59. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      You might want to ask your pharmacist how sales of Vermox and its' ilk are doing (it's not just for pinworm).

      People who get parasites from fish aren't going to go running around announcing it to all and sundry.

      Also, sushi isn't all that widely consumed. I know people who have never eaten it, and others who have only eaten it once or twice.

      In fact, I don't know anyone who eats it more than once a year, tops.

    60. Re:Don't kill predators by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      In fact, I don't know anyone who eats it more than once a year, tops.

      Consider that a) the people you know are likely to be similar, and that b) this likely varies *widely* based on locale. Go to Vancouver, New York, or Seattle, and I guarantee you'll see more sushi consumption than in, say, North Dakota (although here in Edmonton, the heart of the Canadian prairies, sushi is very commonly consumed... hell, I went out for sushi just a few days ago). And then there's the home of sushi, Japan, a nation which is *obsessed* with food freshness and safety.

      But, hey, let's pretend for a moment that you're right, that sushi consumption is fairly uncommon. It then follows that most people cook their fish before eating it, right? And, again, the very links you provided indicate that cooked fish is perfectly safe.

      So, either it's a non-issue because raw fish is eaten in many places and yet we don't see a media frenzy about the dangers of raw fish thanks to an upswing in parasitic infestations in humans, or it's a non-issue because raw fish isn't commonly eaten. Either way, unless you can provide cited numbers which indicate that illness due to fish consumption is on the rise, I think it's more reasonable to assume that those linked articles are simply alarmist.

    61. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Either way, unless you can provide cited numbers which indicate that illness due to fish consumption is on the rise, I think it's more reasonable to assume that those linked articles are simply alarmist.

      Most people won't be aware that they have a parasite (just like the 30% to 80% of kids who have pinworm - yuck!!! Get the Vermox, STAT!), but I would tend to think that fish that's sold locally is relatively safe to begin with compared to some countries ...

      What's alarmist is the H1N1 scare. The initial "152 reported deaths" turning out to be 7 after they tested properly, the current practice of counting ALL flu-like cases because "it's too time-consuming and expensive to test", and the "death toll" (which is overwhelmingly what are known as "feebs", defectives, and the morbidly obese - or as one doctor put it, "if this didn't kill them, something else would have in the next 6 months").

    62. Re:Don't kill predators by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      Most people won't be aware that they have a parasite

      Did you not bother even reading the FAQ on the site you linked to? It says the following about the Cod Worm:

      Q: What would happen if a cod worm were to survive in your stomach?
      A: Nothing life threatening or permanently damaging will happen, but you are likely to experience a terrible stomach ache, nausea, and vomiting.

      So, no, I really doubt anyone infested with said worm wouldn't realize it.

      And looking through the list on this site, it appears the Cod Worm is the only common salt water parasite that humans contract. And only an idiot would eat raw fresh water fish.

      So I repeat, if parasites were a problem, sushi eaters would be the proverbial canary in the coalmine... unless there aren't that many of them, in which case it doesn't matter either way, since cooking fish renders it completely safe.

      What's alarmist is the H1N1 scare.

      Which only reinforces my point. If fish parasites were *really* a problem, the media would be all over it faster than you can say "manufactured hysteria".

      BTW, nice try attempting to change the subject.

    63. Re:Don't kill predators by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Look, what part of "Most people won't be aware that they have a parasite " don't you understand?

      Did I mention cod worm specifically there? No. Did I go on to mention another worm (pinworm) in that context? Yes. Do between 30% and 80% of people have pinworm? Yes. Do most know it? No.

      The fact is that people are hosts to many parasites at any one time; some of them, over time, we've evolved a symbiotic relationship with (the flora and fauna in your gut are a good example, and if you go back far enough in time, mitachondria). People can go around for a LONG time with a tapeworm. And idiots obviously DO eat fresh-water fish undercooked. That's why we call them idiots :-)

      The basic problem is that we're resorting to things like salmon farming because we've seriously impacted the natural resource. Unfortunately, the fish farms also impact the local environment in a negative way.

    64. Re:Don't kill predators by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      Did I mention cod worm specifically there? No. Did I go on to mention another worm (pinworm) in that context? Yes. Do between 30% and 80% of people have pinworm? Yes. Do most know it? No.

      Does pin worm come from fish? No. Does the most common salt-water fish-borne parasite, the one discussed in the very article you cited, produce symptoms such that any human carrying it would immediately go to the hospital? Yes. So for *fish* parasites, most humans *would* know it. And last I checked, we were talking about fish parasites... right?

      The basic problem is that we're resorting to things like salmon farming because we've seriously impacted the natural resource. Unfortunately, the fish farms also impact the local environment in a negative way.

      They sure do, which is why the government needs to step up and properly regulate them. Of course, given the reticence of the US/state government(s) to ban things like hormone use in dairy cattle (unlike, say, Canada), it's highly unlikely that'll ever happen.

      But in the end, the discussion was originally about fish-borne parasites. And the simple fact is, they're just not that big of a deal, at least as far as I can tell, and so from a human consumption standpoint, fish is as safe as it ever was... well, save for the hormones and antibiotics (though, to be fair, those same compounds have been used in the beef industry for quite a while, now, without any clear negative human impact... 'course, I have no idea what the regulations are in the fish farming industry vis a vis residual drugs in the harvested meat).

  10. Obligatory simpons reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one, welcome our new trawler capzising jellyfish overlords!

    1. Re:Obligatory simpons reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Deeply sorry, but somebody had to say it:

      In Soviet Russia, jellyfish capsize YOU !

      In Korea, capsizing jellyfish are for old people.

  11. Chiba != China by gzipped_tar · · Score: 5, Informative

    The boat turned turtle off the coast of Chiba, which is a Japanese port, rather than the coast of China. TFA did mention that the jellyfish's breeding location is off the Chinese coast though.

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    1. Re:Chiba != China by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. You're no real geek, if you don't know know the term "Chiba". ^^

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    2. Re:Chiba != China by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Journalist's spellchecker at work. Obviously, nobody fact-checked the article or this obvious mistake would have been quickly found. Note the byline, maybe Julian Ryall will write something about healthcare next!

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  12. Hey there! FlashMob4Jellyfish is using Twitter by jms · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Relatively little is known about Nomura's jellyfish, such as why some years see thousands of the creatures floating across the Sea of Japan on the Tsushima Current, but last year there were virtually no sightings."

    Hey there! FlashMob4Jellyfish is using Twitter

    WhN? 2day. Where? Sea of Japan. What? Jam as many of us into
    a fishing net and capsize the boat.
    4:48 PM Oct 9th from ocean

    1. Re:Hey there! FlashMob4Jellyfish is using Twitter by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      Twitter? That sounds like 4Chan to me.

  13. Mod Parent Up (Informative) by theTerribleRobbo · · Score: 1

    (Please.)

  14. A much bigger problem by Das+Auge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I saw a Nation Geographic (I think) special on this.

    These jellyfish spawn off the cost of China, near Hong Kong. The increasing water temperature (since the end of the last ice age) coupled with the pollution that China dumps into the sea, has caused an explosion of the aforementioned animals. The jellyfish then float eastward, right into the Japanese fishing waters.

    The Japanese have no real solution to this problem. Thy only thing they can do it try to kill as many jellyfish as they can (using bladed or hooked poles).

    Here's when I venture into probably troll country: I'm okay with the affect the jellyfish are having. The way that the Japanese over-fish the oceans (not to mention killing whales), I'm okay with anything that slows them down. Now only if something could slow down the over-fishing done by the rest of the world. This includes the US, of which I'm a citizen.

    I'm not a Green Peace lovin' (I hate 'em), tree hugging, nut job; but we really need to have some sort of international regulation (with punishments in the form of sanctions) on the fishing and care of the oceans. From over-fishing to habitat destruction (often a side affect of fishing) to pollution, we're well on our way to killing the oceans as we know them. Which will lead to the killing of our civilization as we know it. Not the end of it, mind you. Just the end of it as we know it.

    1. Re:A much bigger problem by maxume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The best thing about good fisheries management is the increased harvests...

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    2. Re:A much bigger problem by Das+Auge · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's no need for fisheries. It's been shown that simply cordoning off sections of the ocean where no one is allowed to fish at all, causes an explosion of sea life in the surrounding areas.

      Well...okay, I take back part of what I said. We do need fisheries for shell fish. It's fishing for shell fish (especially shrimp) that causes so much of the habitat destruction. The trawlers rake scoops across the ocean beds to catch shrimp. Which annihilate the corral reefs.

    3. Re:A much bigger problem by FrankDerKte · · Score: 1

      Yes, we have to solve the tragedy of the commons.

    4. Re:A much bigger problem by oldhack · · Score: 1

      Capitalism to the rescue, baby.

      All we need is for our chemistry wizards to come up with a recipe to turn the suckas into McNuggets (or equivalents), and those buggas will turn into an endangered species by the following Thursday.

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    5. Re:A much bigger problem by Firkragg14 · · Score: 1

      (southpark reference) We could just tell the Japanese that Jellyfish were responsible for hiroshima and let them sort it out.

    6. Re:A much bigger problem by maxume · · Score: 1

      'fishery' simply describes an area where fish might be.

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    7. Re:A much bigger problem by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      FOOKYU JELLYFISH!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAH!

                                   

    8. Re:A much bigger problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thy only thing they can do it try to kill as many jellyfish as they can (using bladed or hooked poles).

      ^jellyfish^Chinese

    9. Re:A much bigger problem by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      >>These jellyfish spawn off the cost of China, near Hong Kong. The increasing water temperature (since the end of the last ice age) coupled with the pollution that China dumps into the sea, has caused an explosion of the aforementioned animals. The jellyfish then float eastward, right into the Japanese fishing waters.

      No, no, no! You forgot to blame it on global warming!

      Remember, anytime anything weird happens, you must blame it on global warming!

      Do this again and we'll revoke your card.

      -Greenpeace

    10. Re:A much bigger problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way that the Japanese over-fish the oceans (not to mention killing whales), I'm okay with anything that slows them down.

      How come us Westerners think it's so wrong to kill whales when we eat so much beef? Why is it ok to farm and kill one kind of mammal but not another kind? I love beef, and I've never tried whale, but I don't see there is that much difference morally...

    11. Re:A much bigger problem by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      It's been shown that simply cordoning off sections of the ocean where no one is allowed...

      You realize you just described a fishery, right? A fishery is not some giant tank where fish are grown (ok, it CAN be, but that is by far the exception). The vast majority of fisheries aren't even fish farms, they are wild fisheries.

      Fisheries are areas where fishing is actively regulated for the express purpose of producing a larger fish harvest. We have dozens, if not close to a hundred, fisheries here in Alaska, and as far as I know not a single fish farming operation, those all operate on the west-coast.

      In other words, what you want is a fishery.

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    12. Re:A much bigger problem by turing_m · · Score: 1

      There's no need for fisheries. It's been shown that simply cordoning off sections of the ocean where no one is allowed to fish at all, causes an explosion of sea life in the surrounding areas.

      That it does, but then no one can eat the fish. Surely it is better to have a sustainable fishery, which can be done if the fishery is made into a property right, usually with government oversight and regulation. It's pretty much the same solution that has fixed the original commons problem on land - get rid of the commons and make every parcel of grazing land owned by a single entity (whether that entity is a person or a group of shareholders splitting the profit a pre-defined way makes little difference). That way, only a fool over-grazes his land. The fishery solution is more complex but amounts to much the same thing.

      And in those areas where the people are too chaotic, poor, corrupt, whatever, to obey rule of law? Well, good luck trying to get any area of anything cordoned off against hungry, poor people who don't obey laws or have corrupt enforcement. That's very much wishful thinking.

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    13. Re:A much bigger problem by maxume · · Score: 1

      Cattle are not under threat as a species (they are perhaps as successful as they have ever been, depending on how you go about measuring such things), while many species of whales are.

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    14. Re:A much bigger problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I agree with you in theory, you're making the assumption that more jellyfish are leading to more fish in general. Jellyfish kill plenty of fish on their own. That's one of the problems here.

    15. Re:A much bigger problem by Das+Auge · · Score: 1

      Because whales are a highly intelligent species.

      There are three criteria, that if met by the animal in question, prevent me from eating them.

      1. How intelligent they are. If an animal displays some sort of above rudimentary intelligence, it gets a pass. So whales, porpoise, monkeys, apes, octopi, and similar animals get a pass. I won't even eat pig anymore.
      2. How closely they're related to humans. Apes, monkeys, lawyers, and politicians get a pass.
      3. If they're endangered. No animal is tasty enough to warrant their extinction.

      This is not a scientific list, it's just my way of putting the world in perspective. It's like asking "how nice should I be to others?" I get to draw the line. If you don't like it, tough.

    16. Re:A much bigger problem by morkk · · Score: 1

      I'm not a Green Peace lovin' (I hate 'em), tree hugging, nut job;

      nope, you're just a fool - d'ya think anyone else is talking for you?

    17. Re:A much bigger problem by laejoh · · Score: 1

      I'm okay with the affect the jellyfish are having.

      Are you an xkcd reader?

    18. Re:A much bigger problem by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 1

      The trawlers rake scoops across the ocean beds to catch shrimp. Which annihilate the corral reefs.

      More than just coral reefs. There's an interesting article from the NYT about commercial trawlers features some incredible images from Google Maps.

      Trawling is the ecological equivalent of strapping a thick wire cable between two jeeps and driving at high speeds across the fields. You'll kill every animal in your path, as well as most of the shrubs and trees. Look at the paths left behind the trawlers and compare to the areas in front of them. They leave behind a veritable wasteland.

    19. Re:A much bigger problem by IronChef · · Score: 1

      Now only if something could slow down the over-fishing done by the rest of the world. This includes the US, of which I'm a citizen.

      I agree.

      Interesting related article:
      http://www.tnr.com/article/environment-energy/aquacalypse-now

  15. Capsizing in a swarm of jellyfish by mysidia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's got to be one of a mariner's worst nightmares...

    Hard to top that... capsizing amidst a swarm of hungry sharks, maybe.

  16. It's not that by Das+Auge · · Score: 1

    It's not a lack of predators. The problem with this particular jellyfish stems from increased global temperature and pollution from China (near Hong Kong).

    Thinking about it, the Chinese and Japanese will eat rhino penis because they think it's an aphrodisiac. Someone should tell them that eating giant jellyfish will give them a bigger penis.

    Problem solved.

    1. Re:It's not that by orlanz · · Score: 1

      A better solution is to dope these things into male/female enhancement drugs and market it to the US. That way, the Chinese and Japanese economies will double their export revenues, completely recover, the world economy will go back to the way things were, someone will actually make profit, net spam traffic will triple, and we will continue to have the biggest compensating for something or other ....

  17. Winch error by SetupWeasel · · Score: 0

    Perhaps they should make winches that aren't strong enough to capsize a boat. Just a thought.

    1. Re:Winch error by PIBM · · Score: 1

      Well, the problem probably resulted from a much higher drag on a single side of the trawler. They usually work in groups, (at least, the small ones), and if most of the jellyfish are on a specific side, the drag can getting close to an horizontal pull, easily capsizing the boat.

      There's not much chance that if we'd lock down the bottom of the net in something underneath the boat, that 1 the net would be strong enough so that infinite strenght winch would bring the boat underneath the water rather than break the net, and 2, a real winch would not be strong enough to bring the boat underwater for an infinite strenght net :)

      So, it's either a human error, or the jellyfish decided that swimming in a direction perpendicular to the boat would be the best thing they could do :)

    2. Re:Winch error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they should keep closer to shore with such a small boat. With a 10 m^3 displacement, the boat could be less than 10meters long.

    3. Re:Winch error by autophile · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they should make winches that aren't strong enough to capsize a boat. Just a thought.

      Captain Watson, is that you?

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  18. Oh no... there goes Tokyo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is there any doubt that these giant, radioactive jellyfish are headed for Japan? Fortunately, they probably can't move very well on land. so Tokyo Tower is safe.

    1. Re:Oh no... there goes Tokyo... by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You've obviously never seen giant, radioactive jellyfish before. They easily transition from water to air and hover over the city, soaking up the juice from the power lines (they use it to help them hover) before floating down to Tokyo Tower for some tenticle-based destruction. Oh and pr0n. Wherever there are tenticles in Japan, there's tenticle pr0n.

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      Security is mostly a superstition... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. - Helen Keller
  19. We must take action immediately! by mister_playboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    I move to petition Congress to recommission the USS Iowa and deploy it to the Sea of Japan.

    Jellyfish born near China and hanging out near Japan will not be open to English-language negotiations, so we must instead negotiate with 16 inch guns. They will surely give in to a show of force... everyone knows jellyfish are spineless!

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  20. Is this a remake? by magusxxx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great...can't wait for the Syfy movie. *rolling eyes*

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    Care killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
  21. Obligitory Jokes by flyneye · · Score: 5, Funny

    'When conditions are right, jelly swarms can form quickly. They appear to do this for sexual reproduction.'"

                Perhaps genetic experimentation to produce K.Y. Jellyfish would aid this.

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    1. Re:Obligitory Jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Their toxins cause numbing, so I'm not sure how much help that would be.

  22. About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Good to see that the seas are fighting back at our rape of the oceans.
    I, for one, welcome our Nemopilema overlord swarms reclaiming their underworld domain.
    Why is trawling still legal? Are we only going to stop when there are no fish or reefs left?
    Why are we still eating Tuna?
    ICCAT

  23. Human Error by handy_vandal · · Score: 1

    But didn't human error capsize this ship?

    Seems likely.

    The article at Telegraph states: "The trawler, the Diasan Shinsho-maru, capsized off Chiba`as its three-man crew was trying to haul in a net containing dozens of huge Nomura's jellyfish."

    The Slashdot submitter states: "... three-man crew dragged their net through a swarm of giant jellyfish ... and tried to haul up a net that was too heavy."

    There's some difference between "haul in" and "haul up", but in both cases the ship's crew is hauling. Sounds to me like the crew capsized their boat by hauling too hard.

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    1. Re:Human Error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's some difference between "haul in" and "haul up",

      Not really. The net was being hauled UP out of the water and IN to the boat.

      but in both cases the ship's crew is hauling. Sounds to me like the crew capsized their boat by hauling too hard.

      Despite not being a nautical person, I'm sure ships & fishing gear have rated maximum weights. And once the center of mass tilts beyond a certain point, the boat will flip.

    2. Re:Human Error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It's probably not the winching power which capsized the boat. A boat takes several times its own length to stop from any reasonable speed (or much worse; a large shipping freighter will take well over a mile to 'brake' to a halt from cruising speed).

      I expect the boat was trawling along under power and the resistance suddenly came on the net. The winch probably locked up and the boat's momentum probably caused it to carry on forwards while the boom-mounted net pulled backwards, causing the capsize. Much like deploying a parachute out one side of the boat, really.

      To address the article's stating they were "hauling in", they may simply have been winching while the boat was also under power. Cover more ocean that way.

  24. polka face? by kribby · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Another thing for Japanese to hate....including dolphins, whales, and the Enola Gay

    1. Re:polka face? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or to put it another way...

      Fuck you wharu, fuck you dorphin, and fuck you jerryfish!

      (ps, neither I nor kribby are trolling or flamebait, we just both watch South Park.)

  25. THANK GOD FOR CAPTAIN SLASHDOT! by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps they should make winches that aren't strong enough to capsize a boat. Just a thought.

    WOW, I'm sure decades of fishermen haven't considered that. Thank god we have Slashdot.

    "What capsizes a boat" is probably very complicated- how loaded is it with fish? How high are the seas? How much water and fuel does it have on board? How much angular momentum does the boat have? How much water resistance does the hull give?

    It's probably possible or even normal to haul up a load that, if you kept it hanging out on the crane, would slowly cause the ship to heel over too far, but if brought aboard relatively quickly, wouldn't...

    1. Re:THANK GOD FOR CAPTAIN SLASHDOT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's... not that complicated.

      In fact each of those qualities is quantifiable, as well as pretty much everything else you'd need to do the calculations.

      Apparently there's just no phrase for "set your drag" in Japanese.

    2. Re:THANK GOD FOR CAPTAIN SLASHDOT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well boy howdy, lets install some kind of complicated computer-controlled auto-magic torque limiter on this here fishing boat crane so that one in a million disaster doesn't happen!

  26. I for one welcome... by smitty777 · · Score: 0

    ...our Cnidarian Overlords

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    "Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish"
    Albert Einstein
  27. Life Imitates Art... by OmniGeek · · Score: 0

    In this case, a German eco-thriller by Frank Schätzing entitled "Der Schwarm" (The Swarm), which features just such an attack, orchestrated by an intelligent marine species, (named the Yrr 'cause that randomly-typed letter sequence worked as well as any) that has decided to get rid of those messy, polluting land-dwellers, AKA us.

    Next up: Swarms of highly-toxic white crabs invade the beaches of the US East Coast, while Canadian Orcas start dining on whale-watchers.

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    "My strength is as the strength of ten men, for I am wired to the eyeballs on espresso."
  28. So, that's why it sank so easily... by karlandtanya · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought it sounded kinda small for a commercial vessel.

    It was a Chibi-trawler.

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    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
  29. There coming for .....YOU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and oddly i just watched that early next generation episode where the giant space jellyfish blasted the bandi on deneb

    now there here wonder if the govt has one against its will at gitmo

    1. Re:There coming for .....YOU by Hybrid-brain · · Score: 0

      you also forget they're psychic space jellyfish.

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  30. History shows again and again... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
    He pulls the spitting high tension wires down

    Helpless people on a subway train
    Scream bug-eyed as he looks in on them

    He picks up a bus and he throws it back down
    As he wades through the buildings toward the center of town

    Oh no, they say hes got to go
    Go go Godzilla, yeah
    Oh no, there goes Tokyo
    Go go Godzilla, yeah

    Rinji news o moshiagemasu!
    Rinji news o moshiagemasu!
    Godzilla ga ginza hoomen e mukatte imasu!
    Daishkyu hinan shite kudasai!
    Daishkyu hinan shite kudasai!

    Oh no, they say hes got to go
    Go go Godzilla, yeah
    Oh no, there goes Tokyo
    Go go Godzilla, yeah

    History shows again and again
    How nature points up the folly of men
    Godzilla!

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  31. Soylent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, fishing is *so* primitive. Civilized people *grow* their food, hunter/gatherer economics are for barbarians.

    I for one welcome our new Soylent Green overloards.

  32. 'Sexual' reproduction? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    When conditions are right, jelly swarms can form quickly. They appear to do this for sexual reproduction.

    As opposed to what? Cloning?

    1. Re:'Sexual' reproduction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anemones can reproduce through cloning.

    2. Re:'Sexual' reproduction? by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Informative

      > As opposed to what? Cloning?

      Well, yes, actually. Jellyfish reproduce both sexually and asexually.

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    3. Re:'Sexual' reproduction? by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Informative

      As opposed to what? Cloning?

      Actually, yes. Jellyfish normally asexually reproduce; essentially cloning. They can also sexually reproduce.

    4. Re:'Sexual' reproduction? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      They can do both? Does one has any advantage over the other? (aside from not having to deal with "not tonight I have a headache")

    5. Re:'Sexual' reproduction? by tomhath · · Score: 4, Funny

      As opposed to what? Cloning?

      No, as opposed to swarming for some other reason such as protection from predators, attacking Japanese fishermen, or as part of their agile software development process.

    6. Re:'Sexual' reproduction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cloning is faster/cheaper, but sexual reproduction increases the diversity of the species.

    7. Re:'Sexual' reproduction? by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, yes. Jellyfish normally asexually reproduce; essentially cloning. They can also sexually reproduce.

      Well, that's just being greedy.

  33. Haul Up, Haul In by handy_vandal · · Score: 1
    The net was being hauled UP out of the water and IN to the boat.

    Not necessarily. If the net is any distance from the ship, hauling in means hauling the net through the water. Only when the net is adjacent to the boat (beneath the business end of the boom arm, I suppose) is it hauled into the boat. Hauling up out of the water is the dangerous part, I assume that's when the ship capsized. But the ship could conceivably have capsized while hauling the net through the water, given enough jellyfish mass and enough pull from the ship's winch (not likely, but the syntactic ambiguity bugs me to I have to explore the problem).

    As you say, rated maximum weights, center of mass tilt, boat flip. The crew should know such things and acted accordingly.

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    1. Re:Haul Up, Haul In by umghhh · · Score: 1

      they turned on the winch and went on with their other business like reading /. etc which proves again that men are not that multitasking after all.

  34. Oblig. South Park reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Japanese fishers running into problems, again?

    "Fuck you, jellyfish!"

  35. Its a potent of future diaster by physburn · · Score: 2, Funny
    Japanese nuclear radiation has stirred up Godzilla into an attack on one of the Cephalopod kings of the Major Arcana. The world is doomed. The only question is how we will die. Screaming Mad from Cthulhu, or Alien inversion from Waking Kraken.

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    1. Re:Its a potent of future diaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only question is how we will die. Screaming Mad from Cthulhu, or Alien inversion from Waking Kraken.

      You missed the obvious one. B-B-Qed to a crisp by Godzilla's radioactive flame breath. (You didn't seriously think Godzilla was going to lose to a monster as wimpy as Cthulhu, did you?)

  36. southpark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck you Whale, Dolphin, and Jellyfish.

  37. Alternative Use by skornenicholas · · Score: 1

    While I may be off base here I do have a suggestion; perhaps we could all cut a deal with the Japanese, give them a new country, preferably NOT in the middle of cyclone central, and far away from the Chinese, we then decimate the island, place all of the prison lifers/deathers on the island giving them only tools to hunt Jellyfish, and leave. We either get rid of the prisoners or the jellyfish and preferably BOTH. What's this "humane" you speak of?

    1. Re:Alternative Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have another suggestion.
      Why don't we put all of our country's whitetrash criminals into an island-continent so that they can have their way with cetaceans?
      Oh wait, that's been done before.

  38. Be prepared (or at least forewarned) by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am totally unsurprised by this development after reading about the 5 species that seem to be trying to take over the earth article at Cracked.com.

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  39. Mod parent insightful by turing_m · · Score: 1

    It's not hard to understand how this happens when many of those predators of zooplankton (e.g. small fish) are overfished to supply fish farms with cheap food (e.g. salmon, tuna). Aquaculture is often portrayed as the way of the future, what they don't tell you is that much of it is only enabled by fishing. And such practice is ridiculously inefficient, like feeding cows to lions so that we may eat the lions.

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  40. It explains itself by arielCo · · Score: 1

    They appear to do this for sexual reproduction.

    I don't know you, but I'd be pretty pissed if someone dragged me in a net while looking around to hook up. Not that jellyfish get blue balls or anything like that, but still sucks.

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  41. Owned. by atheistmonk · · Score: 1

    Looks like the ocean is getting back at the planet destroying trawlers.

  42. I taste like Cheetos by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    Mmmmmm, cheddar jalapeno!

  43. Milk in cheese? Surely you jest! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Back in the late 1980s, a friend took his shiny new chemistry Ph.D to the then State-run Dairy Research Organisation in New Zealand. His first assigned task was to figure out a way to reduce or eliminate milk in cheese and replace it with water.

    A fun fact: It takes something along the lines of 5,000 litres of water to produce 1 litre of milk using New Zealand's current extravagantly wasteful and heavily polluting dairy farming methods and practices.

    But water is still relatively cheap, although, having said that, the latest NZ dairy farming boom has seen natural landscapes ploughed under and replaced by heavily irrigated pasture, leading to erosion, run-off pollution, and man-made drought.

    However, the cheese made from (mostly) water is of course cheaper than that produced using milk, which is why "more water, less milk!" means bigger profits.

    The reason NZ cheese now has the texture of dried earwax and tastes like stale snot is because my friend did his job very well, and is now in a very senior management role at the organisation, which is no longer State-run, and very focused upon the Capitalist ideal of "Everything for me and the rest of you can fuck off and die."

  44. Vegans by dafing · · Score: 1

    I agree that we dont need to eat animals. I'm vegan, with a family history of farmers, and if I can change my ways, anyone can :). PETA does not speak for all Vegans, in fact, many vegans like myself strongly disagree with PETA, I dont like their campaigns with women in cages etc, and I dont like their new welfarist message of "oh well, all animals feel pain and are very cute, but eat the GOOD kind of meat". Theres no such thing as "Happy Meat". Sad to see you get modded 1 insightful while "If they didnt want to be eaten then why would they taste so good. Answer me that." got 3 insightful.

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    1. Re:Vegans by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      Yes, well, we're in hostile territory. Most days if my comments stay visible I'm satisfied.

  45. This is happening in the US too by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the Chesapeake Bay, jellyfish populations are proportional to pollution. Pollution kills the turtles that eat the jellyfish eggs and feeds the jellies. They don't mind the cruddy water.

  46. Catalyst Video/Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone interested in some background on these jellyfish in video form can have a look at the (Australian) ABC's catalyst program - http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/2721180.htm

  47. Re:I don't mean to Trull by uuddlrlrab · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am not usually the one to yell "Mods on crack!" but I don't really think an 'attention grab' this obvious should be marked funny. Nothing personal...

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  48. Mod parent redundant by PinkyDead · · Score: 1

    Well, fair's fair... I doubt he tastes good either, why should we care about him? He just wants to get out his shotgun and start hunting these poor creatures.

    Equal treatment for Jellyfish NOW!!! We need naked models to raise awareness of this issue!

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  49. "They appear to do this for sexual reproduction." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've done crazier things than sink a boat for sexual reproduction.

  50. What was that about "Bait" by Dareth · · Score: 1

    Were some of the jellyfish underage?

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    I only look human.
    My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
  51. Sea Lab in Alabama by cons-cell · · Score: 1

    You're doing it wrong.

  52. Obl. South Park by Taibhsear · · Score: 1

    Fuck you Dolphin! Fuck you Whale! Fuck you Jellyfish! (stab stab stab)

  53. Re:I don't mean to Trull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not usually the one to yell "Mods on crack!" but FUCKING QUIT MODDING THIS THREAD UP. Thank you.

  54. Secret Saturdays by mhajicek · · Score: 1

    I've seen that episode of Secret Saturdays. Someone on board must have had a sonic mind control device that attracted them.