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Brain of Patient H.M. Being Sliced, Streamed Live
buswolley writes "The slicing of the brain of the famous amnesic patient H.M. into giant histological sections is now in full swing, and is being streamed live. The brain specimen is frozen and sectioned whole during one continuous session that is expected to last approximately 30 hours."
Well, it was prior to being posted on /.
Zombie Pr0n.
I'm guessing H.M. is dead, right? Wasn't this a scene out of Hannibal Lecter? Excuse me while I dig up a good chianti and some fava beans.
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Some gal named Abby Normal...
For those of you unaware, HM had essentially complete loss of long term memory, but a normal short term/working memory and, curiously the ability to commit long term learning to his motor memory. So, he could learn new motor skills (an example would be juggling, but I do not know if HM learned that particular task), but not high-level memories.
If you're interested in more, then try reading the excellent book: "The man who mistook his wife for his hat".
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http://neurosciences.ucsd.edu/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/12/02/slicing-up-h-m-s-famous-brain-live-and-on-the-internet/
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It's 6PM here and my suppertime. I think I'll pass.
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This is like a foodtv thanksgiving marathon for zombies!
and a progressive walkthrough the layers like an MRI, upload it to youtube or something
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Zombie Food TV at it's finest!
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I had to go through 3 links just to find the poor guy's name. http://www3.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/nov/30/hm-recollected-famous-amnesic-launches-bold-new-br/
I'm sorry, I'm not getting the reference. Right over my head. Completely clueless! Some context to the comment maybe? Three what?
Wow I misread the headline and thought it said the brain is being sectioned alive.
Now THAT would be worth streaming.
It is working for me. This is pretty awesome looking
Summary: "... is expected to last approximately 30 hours."
Then from the page: "We are going to cut through the entire brain over the next 50 hours."
Glad we've got our time frames together.
Ah am not a crook! (\(-__-)/)
It's not like he would have remembered anything ...
about the normal brain structures? maybe none, BUT they might learn how his brain rewired itself, and get an idea of what areas of the brain weren't connected anymore to get a better idea of why he had no long term memory (and provide information about how the brain actually does that!), it at the very least might shed light on how the brain forms those connections
Primarily an NFL reference I guess. 3 timeouts per half (per team), IIRC. :)
So is this guy's name H.M. Brain?
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
I'm sure buswolley is avidly against human dissection and posted this story just to crash the video server. It all makes sense, its the perfect plan! The only piece missing from this puzzle is proof!
So I can't help but wonder how they got HM to consent to organ donation ? Did they ask him everyday until his death ? Or perhaps he got "organ donor" tattooed on his body ?
oh. *that* kind of football
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Well, I was hoping it was going to make up for that last neuroanatomy exam.
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Well, it was prior to being posted on /.
Now it's just steaming...soon to be on fire!
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You would think that, having been born in this country and living here for 53 years I would get a football reference, but noooooo. Baseball maybe, but I've never paid much attention to football. Go figure. :)
Yea you know, the brainless one that is actually fun to play?
Rugby? ;)
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Shave ice!
Also, a server connected to the internet ala recent bad THE INTERNET horror movies, where every hit makes the hammer (shown on web cam) whack on the chassis of the server, or (distressingly!) shave off part of its brain.
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jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
With MRI, CAT scans, etc, is this ghoulish exercise really necessary anymore?
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I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Well, in all fairness, the camera operator got a splitting headache. ;)
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
Is that to say that you didn't do well on an exam where the subject was neuroanatomy,
or that you didn't do well on an examination of YOUR neuroanatomy? (That'd be awkward...)
Rugby Union to be specific. ;)
Finally a delicious cold treat for zombies.
What was that link again?
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No comment.
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Brain of Patient H.M. Being Sliced, Streamed Live At first, I understood that his brain was sliced and streamed (just like pasta) while he was still alive. It only took a second, but was an indeed creepy thought.
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Aussie Rules.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
They must require the same server to do the slicing.
It now says:
We are going to cut through the entire brain over the next 50 hours.
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
This post needs to be tagged with "Memento".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/
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Should I be making popcorn and get a glass of soda for this? I've said this before... "...only on the internet would I *ever* be exposed to see this."
Can't wait to see the results. I remember this guy from my cognitive psychology course.
maybe, but he doesn't remember you...
The video is working just fine for me. Besides, there really isn't a "legitimate" audience for this; you can't do any brain science by watching the video, its value is purely as a curiosity whether you're a brain surgeon.
H.M.?! Her Majesty?!
Well, I knew she was a bit stiff, but frozen brain?
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
It's a curiosity. There isn't really a "legitimate audience." Rest assured, the resulting slides, which are actually of interest scientifically, will be available via more than a live webcast.
Just tried to connect and get a timeout error...
Are you mocking H. M.?
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If they are making paraffin (yes as in wax) slices of the brain, it could lead to some very useful research. One research application in particular that has been of great value is tissue MALDI mass spectrometry. Essentially, from a wax section we can now evaluate protein expression across different cell types. When looking at unusual tissue, the ability to study differential protein expression is a fundamental technique to understanding what makes the tissue different.
So for those who are wondering what the application of this is, there are many.
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Tried to view it at work with Firefox, and it crashed. Hard. It didn't even pull up the crash reporter. Tried it twice, same results.
Viewed it just fine in MSIE, though. Might be something in my addons...
*Firefox Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5
*NoScript 1.9.9.18
*AdBlock Plus 1.1.1
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Yeah, that 5-10s of action for every 45s off the game clock sure is riveting.
Down with the career politician! SUPPORT TERM LIMITS
Brain of Patient H.M. Being Sliced, Steamed Live
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For a second I thought this would be about some cruel and unusual punishment in a third-world country.
But he knew how to get there, he just couldn't remember where he was going!
The first time I saw the "brain" scene ...
I was eating vermicelli at a Vietnamese restaurant, with a bunch of kids running around the tables, and Hannibal was playing (muted) on their big screen TV.
Should I bring a fork or a spoon?
Wasn't there a movie about this guy that starred Adam Sandler? 50 First Dates. Or something like that.
From TFA:
After the surgery—which was successful in its primary goal of controlling his epilepsy—he suffered from severe anterograde amnesia: although his working memory and procedural memory were intact, he could not commit new events to long-term memory. According to some scientists (e.g., Schmolck, Kensinger, Corkin, & Squire, 2002), HM was impaired in his ability to form new semantic knowledge but researchers argue over the extent of this impairment. He also suffered moderate retrograde amnesia, and could not remember most events in the 3–4 -day period before surgery, and some events up to 11 years before, meaning that his amnesia was temporally graded. However, his ability to form long-term procedural memories was still intact; thus he could, as an example, learn new motor skills, despite not being able to remember learning them.
So, yeah, kinda. It's not like the guy would remember everything until he went to bed. The article was not specific about how long memories would stay in short term memory. I guess that as long as you reminded him of something all day, he might remember it... or at least until you forgot to remind him.
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I bet one of them soon wonders how a slice of that might taste on a bun with Arbys sauce heated in the microwave. Juicy? Delectable? Just keep watching. Irresistible.
It's better than the 5-10s of action for 90 minutes of the closest thing to inaction.
And that's if you're lucky enough to not be watching a 0-0 game.
I've learned that they're worthless, so I don't read AC comments anymore.
It's exactly how I read the story title: "Brain of patient H.M. being sliced, steamed alive". And my first thought was, why, it's so much better fried after being rolled in bread crumbs... That was 1st thing in the morning, before coffee.
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Hannah Montana. Famous for causing many people to wish they suffered from long-term amnesia.
I give you the Visible Human Project.
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I guess if the criteria for action are so pedestrian that only a scoring event registers, you're right. After NASCAR, the NFL is second highest major sport in the US in catering the the least common denominator in intelligence. Cheers.
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I was watching the feed for a few minutes, and I couldn't figure out how this was beneficial. I mean, admittedly the feed was lagging for a few seconds every few seconds, but it looked to me as if the slice, (as it was being sliced off), was bunching up on the blade. On top of that, the operator removing the slice seemed to be just wiping it off of the blade with some wand-like instrument. How can this benefit science if the brain slices just get wadded up?
Football? What’s football?
Perhaps you could make a car analogy.
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